[04:44] <mapps> hello:D
[04:48] <zmoylan-1i> o/
[06:05] <mapps> good tv night
[06:05] <mapps> suits and sunny in philly
[06:06] <mapps> watched any good films recently zmoylan-pi/?
[08:28] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:37] <knightwise> morning
[09:03]  * popey stabs his router
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:08] <davmor2> popey: hey you broke it play nice :P
[09:21]  * popey unstabs router
[09:21] <popey> finally managed to get openwrt on it!
[09:21]  * popey is happy
[09:33] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Create a Vacuum Day! 😃
[09:44] <MooDoo> morning everyone in case i missed you earlier
[09:53] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4NGoS330HE gotcha covered dude
[10:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:02] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:02] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:03] <MooDoo> :)
[10:05] <brobostigon> :)
[10:07] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:10] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:10] <bigcalm> o/
[10:10] <brobostigon> :)
[10:34] <knightwise> Heyzzz everyone
[10:37] <MooDoo> hay, wow my server is getting smacked by chinese ip's :)
[10:55] <davmor2> oh you are popular
[10:55] <MooDoo> lol
[10:56] <MooDoo> stopped it now though, installed fail2ban :)
[10:56] <davmor2> yeah that helps a lot :)
[10:58] <MooDoo> just watching the log, seeing it ban things :) lol
[11:01] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah I reckon this is actually what takes out websites now, it's the fail2ban log taking up all the hdd space :)
[11:05] <MooDoo> lol :)
[11:05] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'll tell you in the morning as it only seems to happen at night/early morning
[11:07] <moreati> Morning all, a popularity question: what virtualisation frontend do you use on your desktop? VirtualBox? Gnome Boxes? virt-manager?
[11:08] <MooDoo> virt-manager here
[11:12] <davmor2> moreati: kvm from the terminal be a man ;)
[11:13] <Myrtti> virtmanager
[11:13] <moreati> davmor2: as a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri I resent that
[11:13] <foobarry> chrome
[11:14] <foobarry> accessing vsphere
[11:14] <foobarry> and vagrant for local stuffs
[11:14] <moreati> foobarry: what backend are you using with vagrant?
[11:15] <foobarry> virtualsucks
[11:15] <davmor2> moreati: depends what you are doing, if it is just firing up machines or want decent amount of options, kvm/virt-manager are perfect and light weight, if you are just playing about with various desktops then Gnome boxes is perfect and if you want proper access to hardware in the vm then virtualbox still does it slightly better than virt-manager (so ideal for windows for a gameos for example)
[11:16] <foobarry> i spin up a vagrant puppet master
[11:16] <foobarry> then spin up test machines that get puppeted by it
[11:17] <moreati> davmor2: ty, does testdrive still get used?
[11:17] <davmor2> moreati: also if you are not caring about the startup of the linux environment lxd is really light for linux system no windows available for that though
[11:18] <moreati> davmor2: 'no windows' as in nothing with a GUI, or no MS Windows?
[11:19] <davmor2> moreati: ms windows
[11:20] <davmor2> moreati: LXD uses the system kernel and install a system in a container on top of that so you can only have linux systems on a linux box
[11:21] <moreati> davmor2: thanks, I've been meaning to take a closer look.
[11:21] <davmor2> moreati: https://linuxcontainers.org/
[11:23] <Myrtti> well that's some news there
[11:24] <Myrtti> Matt LeBlanc for Top Gear
[11:24] <popey> I thought they were getting some member of the public to do it
[11:24] <popey> They had a whole application process
[11:27] <davmor2> popey: he's public he hasn't acted for years ;)
[11:27] <popey> er
[11:27] <popey> http://www.sho.com/sho/episodes/home
[11:28] <davmor2> see no acting :P
[11:28] <popey> heh
[11:31] <davmor2> popey: I like Matt really cause he never really takes himself seriously and is always up for a laugh, I've seen him in a couple of interviews and he is howling with laughter :)
[11:37] <popey> yeah, could work.
[11:57] <MooDoo> hay all, just a question about the next LTS release, I read some where that you can move the unity bar to the bottom of the screen, is this available now?
[11:59] <davmor2> MooDoo: it is see softpedia for instructions there is no gui for it yet
[12:02] <MooDoo> ok thanks mate
[12:02] <MooDoo> unity 7.2?
[12:03] <davmor2> 7.4
[12:04] <MooDoo> that's what i meant lol
[12:04] <davmor2> MooDoo: Version: 7.4.0+16.04.20151218-0ubuntu2 to be more specific :)
[12:06] <MooDoo> yeah i'll upgrade and play this evening
[12:15] <awilkins> Anyone know of a way that you can extract the API metadata from e.g. a Ruby REST API ?
[12:15] <awilkins> Essentially looking for an automated way of generating call stubs for a given language wrapper
[12:25] <MooDoo> any one use a m.2 drive in their laptop?
[12:30] <popey> No, I have an mSATA which pre-dates m.2
[12:30] <popey> much the same thing though
[12:37] <MooDoo> just looking into them, but now can't see the point seeing as I can just get a regular 2.5 ssd for same price
[12:39] <diddledan> MooDoo: m.2 is mucho faster
[12:41] <directhex> maybe.
[12:41] <directhex> see, there are three problems with m.2
[12:41] <directhex> 1) capacity. nobody's making m.2 drives >500gb
[12:41] <MooDoo> yeah i'd have to get one with a 2.5 convertor bay for my lappy
[12:42] <directhex> 2) cost. an m.2 costs twice as much as a sata, for the same capacity
[12:42] <directhex> 3) cost. an nvme m.2 stick costs twice as much as an ahci m.2 stick, and you need nvme for m.2 to be actually usefully faster
[12:44] <diplo> I'd like to just say that systemd is making my head want to explode :)
[12:44] <Myrtti> God I hate the Vistaprint wedding flower advert
[12:45] <diplo> I expect it'll all sync in soon but blimey :P
[12:46] <diddledan> diplo: the problem I have with systemd is discoverability of the services
[12:47] <diddledan> like hth was I supposed to know that openvpn has to be started with the openvpn@<configfilename>.service?
[12:47] <diddledan> in the past I just started it with openvpn as the service name
[12:48] <diplo> :/ I've not come across that yet. Basically trying to get some archaic old start up scripts working and loading them all
[13:13] <awilkins> Worked out what's causing Firefox to freeze I think
[13:13] <awilkins> It's the website of The Independent
[13:13] <awilkins> Not visited it today, no freezes
[13:13] <awilkins> Visited it yesterday on purpose to see if freezes happened a lot, they did
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> some javascript blocker and see if that helps?
[13:14] <awilkins> Yeah, I might try that if I keep wanting to read things on there
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> i did have a nice one that had buttons for javascript, flash and a few other plugins that was on status bar at bottom a while back...
[13:20] <awilkins> Oh hahahahah, I wanted to use Mylyn on our internal issue tracker
[13:20] <awilkins> I think the version of JIRA they have is so old that is has no REST API
[13:27] <awilkins> Ha, it's from 2008
[13:27] <awilkins>  /o\
[13:52] <foobarry> can firefox do html5 videos on youtube yet?
[13:55] <foobarry> yes foobarry , you have to go to youtube.com/html5
[13:55] <foobarry> ta
[13:56] <davmor2> foobarry: what foobarry said
[14:15] <popey> https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/firefox-os-connected-devices-announcement/6864
[14:15] <popey> well, that's dead then
[14:19] <MooDoo> https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/firefox-os-connected-devices-announcement/6864
[14:19] <MooDoo> oops
[14:23] <foobarry> can ubuntu run on the mozphone?
[14:30] <davmor2> popey: didn't take long :)
[14:30] <popey> Which Moz phone? There's a bunch of them
[14:31] <foobarry> oh
[14:31] <foobarry> what now then? unsupported bricks?
[14:33] <popey> yup
[14:33] <popey> They tried to go too big, too fast.
[14:34] <diplo> :/
[14:34] <popey> Had high return rates, which kills devices.
[14:34] <foobarry> they are a massive money burning org
[14:34] <popey> Yeah.
[14:39] <diddledan> "masked gunmen on the run after drinks company boss shot dead" <-- I'm guessing it was employees who got passed-over for promotion too many times (ref: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/masked-gunmen-on-run-after-drinks-company-boss-shot-dead-in-robbery-bid/ar-BBp7hGw)
[15:27] <foobarry> is it possible to password protect a session from being interacted with, but still show the screen content? i'm thinking for a screen on my desk that is tailing logs
[15:28] <MooDoo> http://damien.krotkine.com/2011/09/01/protect-a-screen-session-with-a-password.html
[15:31] <foobarry> that locks the screen session
[15:32] <foobarry> which is handy but i'm after a way to show data on screen but virtually remove keybaord
[15:33] <diplo> Physically remove keyboard instead :)
[15:34] <diplo> Sounds like you're trying to fix a problem with staff/students not taking notice of something?
[15:34] <foobarry> i want to tail logs but nobody gets to ctrl-c and have root
[15:35] <diplo> Create a group and add them to the group perms for logs in question ?
[17:10] <zmoylan-pi> put it behind perspex and watch as they and use touchscreen that is no longer there... :-)
[17:10] <zmoylan-pi> *they try and use
[18:10] <DJones> Can anybody reommend a cheap mobile sim for a galaxy s2 tab, probably only data use only, so maybe a pay as you go that can be topped up
[18:12] <DJones> Just "won" one through work with LTE support so looking at a mobile data plan
[18:13] <davmor2> DJones: for mobile data 3 is about your best option
[18:15] <zmoylan-pi> you'd think there would be an up to date graph of all the available options per country listing the various offerings
[18:15] <DJones> davmor2: Cheers
[18:15] <DJones> Don't even know if it works as a phone as well, or just as a tablet
[18:16] <DJones> davmor2: Thats nice, 12Gb data valid for 12 months for £30
[18:22] <zmoylan-pi> nice
[18:24] <popey> DJones, agreed on 3 mobile sim
[18:24] <popey> I got one for a month of unlimited 3g while I was in the USA
[18:24] <popey> worked a treat
[18:28] <Bull> Hi, i have problems to adjust network manager, i have nt a eth cable but i have a Cd
[18:38] <diddledan> COFFEE
[18:38] <zmoylan-pi> cheesecake
[18:41] <diddledan> aww, no fair!
[18:43] <zmoylan-pi> well if you have your star trek replicator online i can send you the pattern matrix :-)
[19:02] <diddledan> :-o AN UBUTAB HAS BEEN LAUNCHED!
[19:02] <diddledan> with BQ
[19:02] <diddledan> the Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> i'm just clearing down my 7" android tablet as i use it a lot less
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> using a cheapo 4.5" phone instead for viewing tv/movies and as pedometer when walking
[19:03] <diddledan> wait, you're not using a nokia?
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> but a 7" ubuntu tablet might be just what i want
[19:04] <zmoylan-pi> oh i don't use it as phone, i use nokia for that. and fm radio, and web, and email, and rss, and mp3s...
[19:04] <zmoylan-pi> the cheapo is around 70% battery when i get home just using it as pedometer...
[19:05] <zmoylan-pi> whereas the nokia will have more juice doing a lot more
[19:05] <diddledan> ref: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/02/04/canonical-reinvents-the-personal-mobile-computing-experience/
[19:05] <diddledan> pedometer, a device for measuring a person's propensity to being a dirty old man
[19:06] <diddledan> actually such a device would be useful for the celebrity witchunt
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> explodes if you approach the bbc building?
[19:08] <zmoylan-pi> had to be a pedometer with configuration options as my limp throws off many simpler models
[21:47] <diddledan> sounds like norse the security company is fraudulent
[21:48] <diddledan> and their site is offline
[21:49] <diddledan> oh it loaded now - http://map.norsecorp.com/
[23:28] <diddledan> I'm hungry