[00:01] <Village> fangride22, what you try do, give link or try explaine..?
[00:01] <ilyekkakai> ok, that fixed the gnomekeyring error - now it says it is missing pygtk_chart :( anyone no the package which installs that one?
[00:01] <ilyekkakai> know*
[00:02] <Village> axk4545, look - http://pastebin.com/XXFFXJnh i fond it at command man bash and search history and it's about it what i want, maybe you understand what i need do, it's not long text
[00:03] <genii> ilyekkakai: Possibly python-pychart
[00:04] <squinty> ilyekkakai, http://packages.ubuntu.com/   might want to check this out   look at the bottom of the page where you can search for packages containing file names.  make sure you correctly select which release you are  using
[00:05] <ilyekkakai> thanks squinty
[00:05] <squinty> yw
[00:09] <ilyekkakai> Can't find pygtk_chart anywhere on packages.ubuntu.com search :( ...and installing python-pychart did not help neither
[00:10] <bekks> !info pychart
[00:10] <bekks> !info python-pychart
[00:11] <bekks> there it is.
[00:11] <ilyekkakai> bekks I have that installed, but as I said, it does not help the error "no module found pygtk_chart"
[00:12] <bekks> pychart doesnt sound like pygtk_chart, at least to me.
[00:12] <gmwill02> Hello. Does someone know how can I replace an entire column from a file, and assing an integer with auto increment?
[00:12] <squinty> http://notmyname.github.io/pygtkChart/download.html
[00:13] <squinty> ilyekkakai, ^^
[00:13] <ilyekkakai> bekks, I know. it was only genii who suggested it might be related.
[00:13] <ilyekkakai> squinty, thanks
[00:15] <bekks> gmwill02: Whats the actual issue behind your question?
[00:16] <hggdh> ilyekkakai: gpxviewer
[00:16] <hggdh> ilyekkakai: if you install apt-file it may help you to find packages given a component
[00:16] <hggdh> ilyekkakai: for example: apt-file search pygth_chart :-)
[00:17] <hggdh> *pygtk
[00:17] <gmwill02> bekks: Ok so I have a file with 3 columns, the first column contains the customer_id, pure integers, so what I wanna do is replace the whole column (customer_id) with integers, starting from 1 to n (auto increment)
[00:17] <ilyekkakai> squinty, Thanks - that worked. I git cloned the pygtk_chart and installed it. Now the python script runs without error ;)
[00:17] <bekks> gmwill02: Thats how you try to solve an issue - whats the actual issue?
[00:17] <squinty> ilyekkakai,  very cool and good to hear  :)
[00:18] <lritter> fyi
[00:18] <gmwill02> bekks: the issue is, well I can only retrieve 1 column (customer_id) and can't replace it. I'm using cat and cut by delimiter.
[00:18] <lritter> came in here yesterday with a completely messed up installation stuck between 14.04 and 15.04
[00:19] <bekks> gmwill02: retrieving from what? What are you actually tring to do?
[00:19] <lritter> to the two guys who suggested i should just do a fresh install: i fixed it
[00:19] <lritter> in your face
[00:19] <gmwill02> bekks: cat file | cut -d";" -f1
[00:19] <bekks> lritter: Calm down and tell us how you fixed it, instead
[00:19] <Village> axk4545, you still here?
[00:19] <gmwill02> bekks: retrieving from a file.
[00:23] <Village> Loshki, you here?
[00:24] <lritter> bekks, well it wouldn't do a release upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 because of held back packages, so i tried a manual edit of sources.list + dist-upgrade
[00:24] <lritter> bekks, and then things took a turn for the worse (of course)
[00:24] <lritter> bekks, so eventually i pinned the packages to trusty & trusty-updates with a wildcard and did a downgrade
[00:24] <bekks> lritter: Of course. Because upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04 isnt supported at all. You first have to upgrade to 14.10 before upgrading to 15.04
[00:24] <lritter> took numerous calls to install -f, autoremove, dist-upgrade etc.
[00:25] <bekks> lritter: So actually you reverted back to a somehow sane 14.04 install.
[00:25] <lritter> bekks, which is a problem because 14.10 has reached end of life and the upgrade tool wants to skip and go directly from trusty to vivid
[00:25] <bekks> 15.04 is EOL too.
[00:25] <lritter> not yet
[00:25] <lritter> but soon
[00:25] <bekks> tomorrow.
[00:25] <lritter> LOL
[00:25] <bekks> Oh, no. today.
[00:26] <lritter> i just upgraded to 15.10 so phew
[00:26] <Loshki> Village: I'm here. Still having problems?
[00:26] <lritter> bekks, yeah. after it was somewhat 14.04 vanilla (which was quite a fight because that involved moving systemd back to upstart)
[00:27] <bekks> lritter: I'd have reinstalled that thing :P
[00:27] <lritter> bekks, it would only boot into recovery mode, and i had to launch lightdm manually, and for a while there wasn't even any network
[00:27] <Village> Loshki, same, but maybe you can reed it and then knows whats wrong - http://pastebin.com/XXFFXJnh ..? This is from man bash
[00:27] <lritter> fortunately dhclient eth0 worked
[00:27] <lritter> bekks, well it's an old install that exists since 11.04 so i saw it as a matter of honor
[00:27] <bekks> It was a matter of too much spare time, actually.
[00:27] <nikola_> hi
[00:28] <lritter> bekks, yeah... took me only one and a half day ;)
[00:28] <Village> Loshki, i think it's can be answer - The name of the file in which command history is saved (see HISTORY  below).   The default value is ~/.bash_history.  If unset, the command history is not saved when a shell exits.
[00:28] <lritter> bekks, the upgrade path started at 12.10 yesterday btw
[00:28] <nikola_> I have a hugeproblem whit mine ubuntu
[00:28] <lritter> so i did first a few end-of-life upgrades
[00:28] <bekks> lritter: Reinstalling a 14.04.x box takes about 4 minutes here.
[00:28] <Village> But i don't know "If unset, the command history is not saved when a shell exits." where i need set command - history
[00:28] <lritter> bekks, i don't have a SSD drive ;)
[00:28] <bekks> lritter: Me neither, on that box.
[00:29] <bekks> lritter: PXE ftw.
[00:29] <lritter> what is PXE?
[00:29] <Village> Loshki, but i don't know "If unset, the command history is not saved when a shell exits." where i need set command - history
[00:29] <bekks> lritter: booting off the network, installing things.
[00:29] <lritter> ah.
[00:29] <lritter> should make more use of that, i think my bios supports it
[00:29] <lritter> but i'd hate to do backup ;)
[00:30] <bekks> lritter: so your data isnt worth to be kept.
[00:30] <lritter> well let's say i really don't like setting up a system again
[00:30] <lritter> i'd rather solve an interesting upgrade puzzle than do a backup and copy back the home dir
[00:31] <lritter> bekks, so anyway, after 14.04 was sort of clean again (at least apt-wise), i tried the upgrade to 15.04 with do-release-upgrade
[00:31] <Loshki> Village: "unset" is a special bash command -- not the same as 'not setting a value'. If none of the above variables are set, or unset, you should have history being saved in ~/.bash_history by default. Does that file exist and have commands in it?
[00:31] <nikola_> I have a problem whit my ubuntu an error report,i can't run a Ubuntu Software Center.Help
[00:31] <bekks> lritter: I'm doing kickstart installs via PXE. Plain install takes about 4 minutes, kickstarting it including customization takes about 6 minutes.
[00:31] <lritter> bekks, which failed because... well it took a bit of log fetching to find that out, and you'll never guess
[00:31] <lritter> bekks, trusty-updates had a *newer* gcc-4.9-base than vivid
[00:32] <nikola_> I have a problem whit my ubuntu an error report,i can't run a Ubuntu Software Center.Help
[00:32] <bekks> lritter: trusty-updates, maybe.
[00:32] <nikola_> Can someone pls help me
[00:32] <rww> lritter: there's an open bug report for that, i can find it if you want
[00:32] <lritter> bekks, so i had to downgrade once more, from trusty-updates to just trusty, then hold the gcc-4.9-base package, then update *everything else* to trusty-updates, *then* do the upgrade
[00:32] <rww> but yeah, it's a bit absurd in upgrade-land right now
[00:33] <lritter> then i was at 15.04 and all was good again - then i did the upgrade to 15.10
[00:33] <Village> Loshki, understand, i think so that at root user is and at newuser don't is, and you don't know how to create it and assing with that newuser that works..?
[00:33] <lritter> and in the middle of the 15.10 upgrade it sort of fucked up and i had to do another complex chain of autoremove / upgrade / dist-upgrade to complete it
[00:33] <lritter> but now it's all fine.
[00:33] <lritter> (oh, and install -f. lots of install -f.)
[00:34] <lritter> anyway, in the process of that i learned something important
[00:35] <lritter> which is that a) dist-upgrades is not your friend and you have to be careful about what it wants to remove b) if linux-generic and ubuntu-desktop are installed, everything else will mostly go fine
[00:35] <lritter> and there were two very weird cases where python-stdlib somehow "forgot" to install certain files.
[00:35] <nikola_> Can someone pls help me
[00:35] <nikola_> ????
[00:35] <bekks> lritter: dist-upgrades normally doesnt remove things.
[00:35] <lritter> bekks, normally.
[00:35] <bekks> lritter: unless you mess with the sources.list manually.
[00:36] <lritter> which i did :)
[00:36] <Loshki> Village: please login as new user and pastebin the output of the "set" command
[00:36] <lritter> which was quite a dumb idea but it makes me wonder
[00:36] <bekks> lritter: which should teach you to not do it again :P
[00:36] <lritter> what makes a release upgrade different from a dist-upgrade?
[00:36] <lritter> what's their secret?
[00:36] <Village> Loshki, ok, little bit wait
[00:36] <Village> and  cat ~/.bash_history
[00:36] <Village> cat: /home/vlc/.bash_history: No such file or directory
[00:36] <bekks> lritter: different target release.
[00:37] <dotpixis> are the latest xubuntu secure? because i got a notification that they come from a souce that's untrusted...
[00:37] <lritter> bekks, well obviously. i mean... if i wanted to do manually what the release upgrade tool did for me, what would i have to do? i wasn't able to google anything useful
[00:39] <Loshki> dotpixis: a notification from whom?
[00:40] <Village> Loshki, it's many information with set, what you exactly wanna know? HISTFILE=/home/vlc/.bash_history SHELL=/bin/bash
[00:40] <Loshki> !pastebin | Village
[00:40] <Village> It's look like is, but not with data, i think so i need turn it on, but how?
[00:41] <Loshki> Village: can you pastebin the set output?
[00:41] <Village> I know Loshki, pastebin, but there is to much info, my ip's and other..
[00:42] <Loshki> Village: ok, just check the variables beginning with HIST...
[00:42] <tull> Hi Folks - I'm in the middle of a preseed, getting the message "No root file system is defined, press ENTER to continue" - pressing enter just repeats this message indefinitely.  How can I drop into a shell to poke around and see why it's failed?
[00:43] <Village> ok, thanks for understanding
[00:43] <Village> Loshki, HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth HISTFILE=/home/vlc/.bash_history HISTFILESIZE=2000 HISTSIZE=1000
[00:44] <Loshki> Village: and user vlc is set to use /bin/bash in /etc/passwd?
[00:46] <Village> Loshki, SHELL=/bin/bash i think bash
[00:46] <Village> what you mean in /etc/passwd ?
[00:46] <Loshki> Village: every user has a line in /etc/passwd saying which shell they use
[00:47] <nikola_> Can someone pls help me
[00:47] <Village> nikola_, tell problem
[00:48] <Village> Loshki, let me see with root
[00:48] <nikola_> There is an error report on mine computer and i just dont know waht is it about
[00:48] <nikola_> And i cant download or install eny app
[00:49] <bekks> nikola_: Do you mind to actually tell us which error you get?
[00:49] <Village> Loshki, vlc:x:1000:1000:,,,:/home/vlc:/bin/bash
[00:49] <nikola_> just a sec i wanna copy paste it
[00:50] <Xionkana> Hey folks. My DO droplet won't progress past "Starting System V initialisation compatibility [OK]"
[00:50] <Village> i think Loshki, that need somehow turn off the history, that to HISTFILE=/home/vlc/.bash_history this file be writening
[00:51] <Xionkana> The last upgrade I did to it was the linux kernel, but I can't gain any access to it, it seems stuck in the boot process :(
[00:53] <nikola_> E:Malformed line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse), E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:53] <squinty> Xionkana,  maybe try holding down the shift key after the initial computer splash to access the grub2 menu.  from there you can select a previously installed kernel
[00:53] <nikola_> thats the arror
[00:54] <nikola_> help?
[00:54] <Xionkana> squinty: Will do, thanks for the tip :)
[00:55] <k1l> nikola_: please run a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal, copy and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[00:56] <Xionkana> squinty: Got it! Thank you! :D
[00:57] <squinty> good to hear   yw
[00:58] <nikola_> and then??
[00:58] <Village> and paste link
[00:58] <nikola_> i have
[01:00] <nikola_> how will this help me?
[01:01] <k1l> nikola_: show the linke here
[01:01] <k1l> nikola_: so we can see the output
[01:01] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14873436/
[01:02] <noraatepernos> Hi.  Is there something about a .pem key that would require me to ssh as sudo in order to use it?
[01:03] <nikola_> What shoud i do?
[01:03] <Loshki> Village: at this point, I think I need to refer you to #bash. Let me know how it turns out.
[01:03] <noraatepernos> When I debug the ssh I get “could not open key file”
[01:03] <noraatepernos> and “permission denied”
[01:04] <Loshki> noraatepernos: check file permissions on the pem file
[01:04] <nikola_> noraatepernos rty like su to root
[01:04] <k1l> nikola_: do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then go down to line 50, make a " " between "http://archive.canonical.com/"    and the "trusty" then ctrl+o, say yes, then ctrl+x. then do a "sudo apt update"
[01:05] <noraatepernos> nikola_: Yeah, it works if I sudo.  I was given the key to access an aws ec2 instance.  I’ve just never seen this.
[01:05] <k1l> nikola_: noraatepernos dont use su!
[01:05] <hppavilion[1]> Ugh
[01:05] <hppavilion[1]> I'm trying to dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Lenovo Laptop
[01:05] <Ruby_Rocks_007> anyone know why my preseed partman always fail?
[01:05] <JerryWang> hi
[01:06] <hppavilion[1]> I tried creating a bootable USB stick with LinuxLive, which I was pointed to by an article on the ubuntu website, but I can't boot it
[01:06] <Ruby_Rocks_007> my definitiion is pasted here and seems no issue.
[01:06] <Ruby_Rocks_007> cloudera :: 102400 102402 102400 ext4 $primary{ } $bootable{ } method{ format } format{ } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } mountpoint{ / } . 102400 102401 102400 ext4 $primary{ } method{ format } format{ } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } mountpoint{ /home } . 20480 10240 131072 linux-swap $primary{ } method{ swap } format{ } . 307200 1 1000000000 ext4 $primary{ } method{ format } format{ } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } mountpoint
[01:06] <k1l> 15.04 is dead since today. better use 15.10 now
[01:06] <Ruby_Rocks_007>  { /var } .
[01:06] <hppavilion[1]> As far as I can tell, the USB isn't even bootable (should it have viewable files? One named VirtualBox? I doubt it)
[01:06] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: OK
[01:06] <Ruby_Rocks_007> how can I debug possible format/syntax error of preseed stuff?
[01:06] <Ruby_Rocks_007> pulling my hair whole day,
[01:06] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: But it's not much use to be using 15.10 if I can't boot it at all
[01:07] <noraatepernos> Thank guys.  Just looked and didn’t realize the pem file was 400 owned by root.  Didn’t even think to look.
[01:08] <Village> Loshki, hm, i don't feels that #bash channel is, i will try it, thank you again Loshki
[01:08] <Ruby_Rocks_007> the installer always give me a partition screen contains only ‘/‘ and swap,
[01:08] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: make a 15.10 ubuntu usb. then boot that. then we need to look up what is exactly going wrong with that. maybe the newer kernel helps
[01:08] <Ruby_Rocks_007> got bored by it and really crappy preseed experience.
[01:08] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: OK
[01:08] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: LinuxLive /is/ supposed to create a bootable USB, isn't it?
[01:08] <hppavilion[1]> (Just passing the time while it downloads)
[01:08] <hppavilion[1]> (The ISO, that is)
[01:09] <Ruby_Rocks_007> where can i find a parsing log for possible syntax error?
[01:09] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: dont know linuxlive. on windows use unetbootin or rufus. on unix best is to use "dd"
[01:09] <Ruby_Rocks_007> any expert please shed a light.
[01:09] <tull> Ruby_Rocks_007: I'm in a similar boat, I am trying to figure out how to get as verbose output as possible from preseed scripts
[01:10] <tull> in particular for partman/early_command
[01:10] <Loshki> hppavilion[1]: the only iso to usb I found reliable was usb-creator-gtk. unetbootin never worked for me. I recommend a ubuntu LTS.
[01:11] <tull> I'm in the middle of a preseed, getting the message "No root file system is defined, press ENTER to continue" - pressing enter just repeats this message indefinitely.  How can I drop into a shell to poke around and see why it's failed?
[01:11] <Loshki> hppavilion[1]: oh, and windows 10 installation first, always.
[01:11] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: Trying unetbootin
[01:11] <hppavilion[1]> Loshki: I'm already /on/ windows 10 xD
[01:11] <hppavilion[1]> That's what I'm talking from
[01:12] <tull> is there a better channel for preseed-related questions??
[01:13] <ShadeS> hey
[01:14] <ShadeS> what's the difference between slocate/locate/mlocate, i'm trying to figure out what to apt-get install to have locate/updatedb
[01:16] <nikola_> help didnt work
[01:16] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14873436/
[01:16] <nikola_> an error pls help
[01:17] <squinty> ShadeS,  mlocate
[01:17] <nikola_> E:Malformed line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse), E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:17] <hggdh> nikola_: what error?
[01:17] <k1l> nikola_: did you even read what i said?
[01:17] <nikola_> yes
[01:17] <nikola_> didnt work
[01:17] <nikola_> kill thank you
[01:18] <nikola_> but it didnt work
[01:18] <k1l> you did mess with your sources.list. there is a missing whitespace on line 50 right before "trusty"
[01:18] <ShadeS> squinty: i thought that was centos
[01:18] <ShadeS> https://bpaste.net/show/3d4562c66443 I fuxed something with this systemd thing now idk how to repair my system
[01:18] <k1l> nikola_: i gave you exact instructions. very exact. do that, and it will work
[01:18] <nikola_> did like u seid
[01:18] <nikola_> didnt work
[01:18] <ShadeS> mlocate won't instlal either
[01:19] <nikola_> i saw what i have done wrong
[01:19] <k1l> nikola_: if you did like i said it would work. so do it again
[01:19] <nikola_> i will
[01:19] <ariel05> i need help no wifi!
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | ariel05
[01:20] <ariel05> i dont think i have broadcom
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> !wireless | ariel05 also this
[01:21] <SchrodingersScat> ariel05: it was a hunch, like a 75% that it was broadcom ruining another life, you may very well not have one.
[01:21] <Loshki> tull: it seems well documented, but I don't see a mailing list/support group/irc channel for preseed. Maybe #debian?
[01:21] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: Tried using unetbootin to put 15.10 on a usb stick
[01:21] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: Rebooted my computer with the convenient button
[01:21] <Loshki> hppavilion[1]: and...
[01:21] <hppavilion[1]> Left for coffee or somethign
[01:21] <jakethepython> Hello room i am trying to set up a samba share do all computers need to be on the same WORKGROUP to see these? if they are windows comptuers
[01:22] <tull> Loshki: not a horrible idea...
[01:22] <hppavilion[1]> When I got back it was booting normally to windows
[01:22] <ariel05> <SchrodingersScat how do i check whay hardware i have
[01:22] <jakethepython> the shareing server is running ubuntu
[01:22] <tull> I would think a simple question like "how do i drop out of the preseed process into a root shell" would be an easy question to find answer to but apparently not...
[01:22] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: choose boot from usb. then press any key when there is a screen that looks like you should press any button :)
[01:23] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: Choose boot from usb /where/
[01:23] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: in bios
[01:23] <SchrodingersScat> ariel05: lspci | grep -i wireless  #?
[01:23] <nikola_> didnt work
[01:23] <nikola_> help pls
[01:23] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: It was just booting windows normally; the BIOS didn't come up
[01:23] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: or "boot from menu" when you press the menu button
[01:23] <Loshki> tull: either nobody uses it, or it's so well documented nobody ever has a problem with it. 100 quatloos on the former.
[01:23] <hppavilion[1]> k1l: Unless you mean hit esc/f(2|12)/delete to enter BIOS
[01:23] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: see the manual what to press
[01:24] <hppavilion[1]> in which case
[01:24] <hppavilion[1]> It didn't have anything I could do when I tried that earlier in this process
[01:24] <hppavilion[1]> The moment you hit any key, it exits
[01:24] <hppavilion[1]> But I can try
[01:24] <tull> Loshki: nobody uses preseed?  nah...
[01:26] <ariel05> SchrodingersScat Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[01:26] <k1l> hppavilion[1]: it depends on your make and model what to press. most times its f12 or such. then you get a "do you want to boot from: a:disk, b:usb, c:cdrom,...." menue
[01:27] <SchrodingersScat> ariel05: perplexes me then, I have an AR9285 and I didn't have to do anything after install to get it working. (technically it doesn't work now, but that's because it's dying, not the chipset)
[01:27] <k1l> nikola_: remove the whitespace. you know where. and you manually made that mess. so undo the mess.
[01:28] <ariel05> SchrodingersScat so what do i do
[01:30] <nikola_> how do i restart mine ubuntu compleatly???
[01:30] <nikola_> quick
[01:31] <nikola_> how do i restart mine ubuntu compleatly???
[01:31] <nikola_> in terminal
[01:31] <SchrodingersScat> ariel05: any yeses in sudo rfkill list all #?
[01:32] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: I normally use sudo shutdown -r 0
[01:32] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: it's shutdown command, -r for reboot, 0 for now (0 minutes from now)
[01:33] <ariel05> SchrodingersScat nop nothing showed up
[01:34] <squinty> additional drivers program maybe?
[01:34] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: idk any way to get your system back to how you had it during install, unless you reinstall, or if you happened to make an image of it at a point that you were happy with.  Also, backups.
[01:36] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | nikola_ I appreciate that you're at least being polite, but
[01:36] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: especially the bad advice part, imo.
[01:37] <mike2020> Is possible have a ubuntu-server safe in VirtualBox? I mean: be impossible change password by grub, all files with cryptography ...
[01:37] <SchrodingersScat> ariel05: idk :(  this page mentions an asus specific deal, http://askubuntu.com/questions/514018/how-do-i-get-to-work-my-atheros-ar9485-wireless-card-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[01:37] <mike2020> Someone by here is freelance? We want pay to help us with this issue...
[01:37] <mike2020> Can be by PayPal or something similar
[01:38] <nikola_> how can i reinstall mine ubunutu??
[01:38] <SchrodingersScat> !liveusb | nikola_
[01:39] <k1l> nikola_: you dont need to reinstall. you can fix that issue if you would read the advice and do it step by step.
[01:39] <nikola_> kil: i have read it done ot like u saud but it still dont works
[01:39] <nikola_> it*
[01:40] <nikola_> thank u all
[01:40] <k1l> nikola_: if you would have it done that way the error would be gone.
[01:40] <nikola_> is have
[01:40] <nikola_> i have*
[01:40] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: did you add the space?
[01:41] <nikola_> SchrodingersScat yes
[01:41] <SchrodingersScat> mike2020: afaik full disk encryption would keep it relatively safe, presumably they would need the key to get anything
[01:41] <squinty> nikola_, pastebin it again
[01:42] <nikola_> squinty, sry dont know english very vell what?
[01:43] <SchrodingersScat> nikola_: please make another paste.ubuntu.com of the file as it currently is
[01:44] <k1l> !rs | nikola_
[01:44] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14873880/
[01:44] <nikola_> kil that Chanell is empty right now
[01:45] <k1l> nikola_: now remove the " in that line 50
[01:45] <squinty> both of them
[01:46] <nikola_> good job me
[01:46] <squinty> nikola_,  should look like this    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty partner
[01:48] <nikola_> it works thank u all so much!
[01:49] <SchrodingersScat> see, ask in channel and it's like magic
[01:49] <nikola_> love u all
[01:56] <Village> Loshki, axk4545, i fix it with bash history, thank you guys! :)
[02:03] <axk4545> Village: cool
[02:06] <Village> :) good good, problem was that need enter command - " > $HISTFILE " but then shows history only when not close terminal but write exit, then need do one thing more it's - http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/088 that second problem with longest command - PROMPT_COMMAND="${PROMPT_COMMAND:-:} ; history -a"
[02:07] <Village> and now it's works, if you interesting what was need do, axk4545
[02:07] <axk4545> Village: glad you solved it.
[02:08] <Village> glad that you guys help me, so thanks again and see you next time, until:)
[02:10] <mrr411> ok i screwed up and put a wrong graphix driver on my comp and it wont let me switch back so i need to know how to deleat it off the comp
[02:12] <josh_> can i ask some questions about xubuntu in here mayb?
[02:14] <josh_> when i install steam i386 it seems fine then when i go to open or use it, it goes in to this update and it kinda freezes and stays at 0% at wont move. and i have uninstalled and reinstalled and searched the fourms and tried a few differnt options but no one was under xubuntu
[02:14] <josh_> if someone would like to help pm me if possible
[02:17] <somsip> !pm | josh_ (have patience and someone will help here if they can)
[02:18] <josh_> ok thannk you
[02:25] <Hu2an3i3u> l
[02:30] <mrr411> ok i downloaded the wrong driver for my grafix card and now it wont let me change it back it only will keep continue using manually installed driver as an option how do i get rid of the manualy installed driver
[02:30] <somsip> mrr411: how did you install it?
[02:31] <howy> hi~Has anyone tried the 16.04 (maybe beta version only) ? ^^
[02:31] <mrr411> through a website and then it opened up through the software center
[02:31] <somsip> !16.04 | howy
[02:31] <somsip> mrr411: what website? Link?
[02:31] <howy> somsip, mrr411 : ok!! sorry.
[02:32] <cspack> what the heck is a xenial xerus?
[02:32] <mrr411> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux
[02:32] <somsip> cspack: http://dictionary.reference.com/
[02:34] <mrr411> down loaded downloaded fglrx-core_15.302-oubuntu1_amd64_ub_14.01.deb
[02:34] <somsip> mrr411: from?
[02:35] <somsip> mrr411: 'cos the spelling mistakes in that filename would bother me if I were installing it...
[02:35] <mrr411>  http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux
[02:36] <mrr411> yea probably should have
[02:36] <somsip> mrr411: sudo dpkg -r {packagename} should remove a deb
[02:36] <mrr411> its just an ultralight grafix driver witch it shouldent be since i have a radion hd 6770
[02:37] <mrr411> will that remove the program
[02:38] <somsip> mrr411: if you run it in the same directory as the downloaded deb, yes. Maybe check "man dpkg" for other options, like -P will purge and might be useful
[02:38] <ShutemDown> Hi.  I unchecked the option "require password to login", and now unfortunately it won't let me login to my account.
[02:40] <ShutemDown> There is no password field at the login screen.  But when I click login, it starts to load and then kicks me back out to the login screen.
[02:40] <ShutemDown> Unbelievable software bug
[02:41] <ShutemDown> Any work arounds to getting into an account that I locked myself out of?  I know my own password.
[02:42] <mrr411> how do i run it in the same directory
[02:43] <somsip> mrr411: try ~/Downloads or /tmp but not clear where Software Manager will have downloaded it to as I never use it myself. Maybe you'll need to re-download it and save it somewhere if you can't find it
[02:45] <apremoh> kjhkj
[02:49] <mrr411> evedentaly the program was called fgrlx-core
[02:49] <dfcnvt> I have question regarding to automatically resizing the windows -- Is there more than simply (ctrl+alt+[num-pad]) to make the window smaller at the corner?
[02:49] <mrr411> so it says that it deleated them all what where you saying about perge
[02:50] <dfcnvt> For example, (ctrl+alt+9) would be at the top right side of the screen.
[02:50] <somsip> mrr411: if it's gone, then it seems like you've done what you need
[02:50] <mrr411> well its still showing up on the aditional drivers area
[02:51] <mrr411> never mind guess it needed a restart
[02:51] <mrr411> thank you very much
[02:51] <mrr411> going to restart
[02:53] <fernando_> hello
[02:53] <fernando_> i need help
[02:54] <fernando_> someone can tell me how to update my asrock n86-gs fx drivers please???
[02:54] <fernando_> someone can tell me how to update my asrock n86-gs fx drivers please???
[03:01] <Guest72908> hello, I thought I recently saw that Ubuntu was picking up a new kernel.  does anyone know if that just happened
[03:01] <hook> for the life of me, can't seem to get openssh-server to install in the preseed - 14.04 desktop
[03:02] <fernando_> someone can tell me how to update my asrock n86-gs fx drivers please???
[03:02] <fernando_> im new on linux,
[03:02] <fernando_> im using ubuntu mate
[03:03] <Dave553> hello!!!!
[03:04] <hook> anyone had experience with packer/ubuntu desktop?
[03:06] <Blaster> Can www-data install a crontab and run the commands even if I get "This account is not available" when trying to login as that user?
[03:06] <hook> or better still - is there an apt-cache manager anyone can recommend?
[03:06] <hook> I'm new to this, not sure what the leading one is
[03:06] <Blaster> I need to create crontabs from a PHP script, and when I run exec("crontab /srv/crontab") from a PHP script it's executing that as the www-data user. Will that work?
[03:15] <theorem> hey all, I have a strange issue with 14.  After a recent update now I can not get a DHCP address on the default interface.
[03:15] <fernando_> can someone tellme how can i update mi asrock drivers???
[03:16] <theorem> I can see the NIC counters updating, but nothing is making it to the other side
[03:16] <theorem> was there a recent security patch that blocked traffic ?
[03:16] <WhitePelican> in virtualbox
[03:16] <WhitePelican> in #virtualbox
[03:16] <theorem> WhitePelican: ?
[03:17] <WhitePelican> trying to join a room that xcan help me with virtual box
[03:17] <WhitePelican> can*
[03:25] <hook> @WhitePelican what's up?
[03:27] <cspack> WhitePelican: try #vbox
[03:29] <shibboleth> looking at the 16.04 roadmap there are no dates for betas/release candidates?
[03:43] <Y4kuzi> Hello. I run Ubuntu 15.10 and when I close my laptop lid, the wifi connection gets extremely slow. I see this line in dmesg when I close the lid: BAR 6: [??? 0x00000000 flags 0x2] has bogus alignment
[03:43] <Y4kuzi> What does that mean?
[03:50] <artyx> Is there a faq for selinux deployment on ubuntu? I've uninstalled apparmor and associated packages. installed selinux selinux-basic etc... rebooted. check-selinux-installation has no real errors, just labeling underway ... but semanage fcontext -l shows no available contexts.. ls -Z shows contexts, im confused
[03:56] <PQuink> hello
[04:12] <Ed_> Hello!
[04:13] <Ed_> Does anyone know, if there's a different between establishing a connection using say a WICD and iwconfig? I switched my mom to just a manual iwconfig configuration and the reliability of the connection seems to have gone down...
[04:14] <shanao> hello there
[04:16] <gabe_h_cuod> Dual Boot is bringing me down.  Added second hard drive with my nice Ubuntu 14.04 on it and can't get it to boot with Boot-Repair or with EasyBCD.
[04:17] <gabe_h_cuod> Any good boot fix utilities you guys would recommend for an Ubuntu and Windows 8.1 dual boot installation.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> gabe_h_cuod, why dual boot?  install ubuntu + virtualbox + windows
[04:19] <gabe_h_cuod> Virtual machines = bad performance.
[04:19] <andro_> hello
[04:20] <gabe_h_cuod> Only 4GB of ram on this laptop...
[04:20] <caden> Hey, I need help getting a Netgear USB WiFi stick to work on Ubuntu Mate. Help?
[04:20] <zzxc> gabe_h_cuod: VM = lesser preformance.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> gabe_h_cuod, what are you using windows to do and if low ram, try xubuntu or lubuntu for better performance
[04:21] <zzxc> caden: What system are you on currently.
[04:22] <caden> I am on a Raspberry Pi 2B (I know what you're going to say: "Go to the ARM channel!" Was just there and nobody answered me.)
[04:22] <cfhowlett> caden, guess what?  they are they experts not this channel.
[04:22] <caden> well then someone should be over there to help me
[04:23] <cfhowlett> caden, 1.  all volunteers here   2. be patient
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !patience | caden
[04:24] <gabe_h_cuod> I just want to have this setup like before without having to re-install Ubuntu.  Added 2nd HD to the laptop and can't seem to get GRUB or anything else to boot the laptop to my existing Ubuntu that now resides on second HDD (D: drive)
[04:24] <caden> Waited for 10 mins. Patience enough. Already searched the web for days on end. Nothing works.\
[04:24] <cspack> gabe_h_cuod: UEFI or BIOS mode? does it boot to windows or not at all?
[04:24] <gabe_h_cuod> Windows fine.  Had to do DART Recovery of MBR.  Older legacy BIOS.  No UEFI....
[04:25] <cfhowlett> 10 minutes?  yeah, no.  when somone knows, they will answer.  for INSTANT answers consider purchasing paid support from canonical.
[04:25] <gabe_h_cuod> So Boots Windows fine.
[04:25] <caden> Paying? No thanks.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> otherwise, wait for a knowledgeable volunteer
[04:25] <zzxc> cfhowlett: For as ras pi? that seems super extreme.
[04:25] <foufou32d> to
[04:25] <foufou32d> yo
[04:26] <cspack> gabe_h_cuod: is grub on the second hdd?
[04:26] <foufou32d> newbie question here: whats a daemon and whats a unix socket
[04:26] <cfhowlett> zzxc, he can't wait longer than 10 minutes.  I think extreme has been established
  I know my RPI2 is fussy about wireless network cards.  Using an EDI Max "N" type with good results.
[04:27] <gabe_h_cuod> About $10+/- on-line...
[04:27] <gabe_h_cuod> cspack:  I've tried GRUB install via boot repair - more commands than I even care to remember.
[04:28] <gabe_h_cuod> Also tried EasyBCD.
[04:28] <gabe_h_cuod> That just seems to boot me into "Grub4DOS"....
[04:28] <caden> I don't want to pay for another card when I got this really nice one for free, but if I have to... Besides, I would like to try everything possible before putting money into it.
[04:29] <zzxc> caden: Hmm, so its its Netgear USB wifi on RasbPi running ubuntu.
[04:29] <zzxc> What device is it?
[04:29] <zzxc> (the usb)
[04:29] <caden> Netgear A6200
[04:30] <caden> I did get drivers with it, but only for Windows.
[04:31] <gabe_h_cuod> caden:  I have tried lots of AC Cards with RPi2.  Rough situation.  I would stick with "N" type Nano dongle.
[04:31] <gabe_h_cuod> caden: You'll be banging your head against the wall with that one before you're done.
[04:32] <cspack> gabe_h_cuod: have you tried booting to the 2nd drive from the bios boot menu? (F12 on most systems but can vary)
[04:32] <caden> Lol. Is there any way to emulate Windows programs with my ARM Pi?
[04:32] <zzxc> caden: Yeah it looks like thats kind of a rough one. People are running the windows drivers through wine which doesn't existing in ARM (to the best of my knowledge)
[04:33] <caden> Man. I got wine to *sort of* run but I couldn't get it to actually emulate programs without crashing
[04:33] <zzxc> Oh actually I might be mistaken give me a second. https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
[04:34] <caden> Thanks!
[04:36] <gabe_h_cuod> cspack: Yes - have set both drives as primary in BIOS.  No dice.  Just getting Grub4Dos...
[04:37] <zzxc> caden: I'm not sure it will work. It looks like it will still be super buggy, and I don't think there are any drivers for it. Sadly I think gabe_h_cuod Is right.
[04:37] <caden> Well, looks like I am stuck spending money. Thanks anyway.
[04:37] <gabe_h_cuod> caden:  Power issues, folks with spotty AC routers / Access Points, drivers, etc.  Not saying it can't be done - but you'd probably need to budget $100 for a bunch of AC nano wifi adapters until you found the one that worked.
[04:41] <gabe_h_cuod> Dual boot can't be this hard with Grub... Was working fine on the single drive setup.
[04:50] <cspack> gabe_h_cuod: do you still have the output from boot-repair?
[04:50] <gabe_h_cuod> cspack: Actually, I think I do...  Hang on and let me check my pastes...
[04:54] <gabe_h_cuod> cspack:  check your PM from me.   Sent you the paste...
[05:00] <zzxc> Soooo I feel like this is a general ubuntu question. I have a unclaimed ethernet drive on new motherboard, I'm trying to boot off the old SSD. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:02] <Neo> hello everyone
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !details | zzxc
[05:03] <zzxc> Hey Neo.
[05:03] <Ben64> zzxc: ethernet drive? can you explain things more clearly
[05:03] <zzxc> lotuspsychje, Ben64: Sorry, I'm a little bit tired.
[05:03] <Neo> Question: How do I change what the multitouch actions do? I want to swipe left and right to switch virtual desktops
[05:04] <han-solo> hello
[05:04] <han-solo> cannot do apt-get update :/
[05:04] <Neo> A three finger swipe gesture that is*
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> han-solo: error?
[05:04] <Ben64> han-solo: do it, and pastebin the output
[05:04] <han-solo> yeah
[05:04] <han-solo> okay
[05:04] <han-solo> ase.gpg  Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:8118:
[05:04] <Ben64> pastebin. and the full output
[05:05] <han-solo> yeah. But it's debiany....
[05:05] <Ben64> han-solo: if its debian, you should be asking in #debian
[05:05] <han-solo> you guys wouldn't mind though, right?
[05:06] <zzxc> I'm running ubuntu-server on a machine. Motherboard got fried, so I swapped it out. Booting off the orginal boot drive. But running lshw -C Netowrk give me an unclaimed ethernet.
[05:06] <Ben64> zzxc: what do you mean by unclaimed ethernet
[05:06] <han-solo> i did. Just nobody answered :/
[05:06] <Ben64> han-solo: so wait
[05:07] <han-solo> yeah, i just don't want to poll in the channel
[05:07] <han-solo> though, it's general i think
[05:07] <han-solo> the case
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> han-solo: this is only ubuntu support here
[05:07] <Ben64> this channel is for ubuntu support only, #debian exists for a reason
[05:08] <han-solo> yeah
[05:08] <zzxc> Ben64: "*-network UNCLAIMED" ; no driver for the node.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: explain more what you did...
[05:08] <han-solo> i just want to knoe why it's trying to connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 when i do apt-get update :/
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: did you reinstall server? wich server version?
[05:09] <han-solo> i installed tor and privoxy btw
[05:09] <Ben64> han-solo: you need to ask in #debian
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> han-solo: please stop, we told you what to do
[05:09] <han-solo> okay
[05:10] <zzxc> lotuspsychje: Still booting of the orginal drive that was running with the previous motherboard. Trying to avoid doing a reinstall as I'll lose a good bit of configuration set up.
[05:10] <zzxc> lotuspsychje: Drive was & is running 14.04 server.
[05:10] <Neo> anyone know how to change the multitouch gestures?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | Neo ubuntu version,...
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: did you place the exact same motherboard in your system?
[05:12] <zzxc> lotuspsychje: No. Sadly its not made anymore.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: then its recommended to reinstall ubuntu fresh
[05:13] <Neo> lotuspsychje: This is on a Ubuntu 15.10 wily install
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Neo: on a tablet?
[05:13] <Neo> Dell XPS 12 touchpad
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Neo: ok and whats not working exactly
[05:14] <Neo> lotuspsychje: I would like to alter the actions of a three finger left/right swipe. I want it to change virtual desktops
[05:15] <zzxc> lotuspsychje: Yes, I understand that. What I'm wondering is if anyone knows a way how I can install the drivers, so I can pull the info off the drive.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: when you reinstall clean, you can preserve your previous /home
[05:15] <Ben64> i'm not sure how ethernet is related to pulling data from a ssd
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> zzxc: you placed another motherboard, so let ubuntu recognize ethernet driver it from a new install
[05:17] <zzxc> lotuspsychje: Yep, Issue is more /var & /opt rather an /home
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Neo: i thinkt its gonna be needing some tweaks like this: http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613/t/19467783
[05:18] <B-Guelif> Neo: maybe you've already read it, but i found this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/92169/touchpad-gestures-to-change-workspace
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> B-Guelif: nice find +1
[05:19] <B-Guelif> thanks lotuspsychje! :)
[05:20] <zzxc> Ben64: Well I have no enclosure to mount the drive. So I need some way to pull it off the disk. I move it to /home and hope that nothing goes wrong in the reinstall, buuuuuut I'm not that postive nothing will go awry.
[05:25] <Neo> awesome lotuspsychje and B-Guelif, thanks!
[05:26] <B-Guelif> You're welcome Neo
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> elky: thank you :p
[05:34] <han-solo> well, i fixed it. Thanks anyway
[05:36] <homa_> hi my friends
[05:38] <B-Guelif> hi homa
[05:41] <homa_> hi B-Guelif
[05:52] <dfcnvt> I have question regarding to automatically resizing the windows -- Is there a way to make the window more smaller and at correct positin? Shortcut for placing window's position: (ctrl+alt+[num-pad])
[05:53] <dfcnvt> For example, (ctrl+alt+9) would be at the top right side of the screen.
[05:53] <sonu> Hi
[05:53] <sonu> guide me about commands to connect ssh
[05:53] <dfcnvt> The window would be 1/4th the size of the LCD's screen.
[05:53] <somsip> sonu: what have you tried?
[05:54] <aruljothi> #feedly-python
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !ssh | sonu
[05:55] <somsip> dfcnvt: some information here - not sure if it's any use to you http://askubuntu.com/questions/334559/how-can-i-setup-hotkeys-for-tiling-individual-windows-in-unity-ubuntu-12-04
[05:55] <sonu> somsip, i have trried this: ssh -l nesta -i <your-key>
[05:55] <sonu> and username
[05:55] <somsip> !info unity-tweak | dfcnvt (might have some use too)
[05:57] <sonu> somsip, what i have to put in <your-key>
[05:57] <somsip> sonu: there is no target address on that. It should be something like "ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa nesta@some.server.address
[05:57] <above> guys i screwed up and cant access sudo :(
[05:58] <sonu> somsip, yes there is . let me try
[05:58] <sonu> somsip, what i have to put at place of <your-key>
[05:58] <sonu> the private key
[05:59] <somsip> sonu: a path to your private key
[05:59] <sonu> okay
[05:59] <sonu> let me try
[06:00] <tMH> hiya everyone. one small Q: I have friend of mine system 12.04 installed (no GUI, no NetworkManager), which is normally resolving hosts via 'host google.com' or 'netstat -a', _but_ it does not resolving incoming hosts in 'w' command - showing what users from what IP/hosts came in.
[06:01] <tMH> please tell me, how to fix 'w' to resolve hostnames?
[06:01] <tMH> thanks in advance!
[06:01] <above> i messed with ~/.bashrc and included ~root $PATH and now its staying i have to change group ownership and setuid which i have no clue on
[06:01] <sonu> somsip, it say's Permission denied (publickey)
[06:02] <dfcnvt> Okay, i checked some of the pointers you made. Nothing appears what I wanted.  I'll google to try and find what I wanted.
[06:02] <somsip> sonu: do you have permission to access the server with that key?
[06:02] <tMH> 'w' showing my login like this:
[06:02] <tMH> tmh      pts/14   217.76.32.62     Mon12    1.00s  0.38s  0.01s sshd: tmh [priv]
[06:02] <tMH> w/o resolving hostname's IP...
[06:02] <above> can someone tell me their owner, group owner and perms for ls -lat /bin/su
[06:02] <somsip> dfcnvt: if you define a bit more what you want it might help
[06:02]  * dfcnvt want to be able to use the hotkey and create a window of 1/8th of LCD screen.
[06:04] <dfcnvt> -- to a specific position.   Maybe like, type (Ctrl + Alt + 9) twice and it will resize to a smaller size.
[06:05] <Triffid_Hunter> above: stat works better than ls for that sort of info.. Access: (4711/-rws--x--x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[06:05] <above> thanks
[06:05] <above> :)
[06:05] <somsip> dfcnvt: you could maybe write a script that would be called from the hotkey that could utilise this approach: http://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/resize-a-window-to-a-specific-size-in-ubuntu/
[06:06] <wael> hello
[06:06] <dfcnvt> somsip: Thanks, I shall consider that as an alternative. (as a last resort)
[06:08] <above> thank you ! worked!
[06:08] <Triffid_Hunter> above: yw, did you acidentally set it to 0755 or something?
[06:09] <above> no i was messing with .bashrc for the first time and thourhgt id like to access root commands. my npm, git, node only work with root
[06:10] <above> i know its insecure but this is a virtualbox that doesnt have critical data on it.
[06:10] <above> so i guess when on my normal user exporing the roots path may have auto done that.
[06:26] <hppavilion[1]> So for some reason, when I boot my Lenovo laptop (running windows 10) with a bootable (I hope) USB stick plugged in
[06:26] <hppavilion[1]> It won't launch ubuntu, or even something I can use to install it (I'm attempting to dual-boot)
[06:31] <hppavilion[2]> No luck :/
[06:31] <hppavilion[2]> Just tried it in my only other USB port
[06:31] <hppavilion[2]> Wait, no, there's one more it looks like
[06:35] <hppavilion[1]> *sigh*
[06:36] <hppavilion[1]> Anyone able to help?
[06:37] <B-Guelif> i'm new on linux but i think it's better to install Linux first, then Windows, right?
[06:38] <Triffid_Hunter> hppavilion[1]: frequently you have to go into bios (mash F2/del during powerup) and enable boot from usb
[06:38] <hppavilion[1]> B-Guelif: NO!
[06:38] <Triffid_Hunter> B-Guelif: partition from linux but install windows first
[06:38] <hppavilion[1]> B-Guelif: From what I've heard, at least
[06:38] <B-Guelif> oh ok, sorry! thanks for the info!
[06:38] <hppavilion[1]> B-Guelif: It'll mess something up... I read (on the Ubuntu website) that it has a tendency to overwrite data if installed first. IIRC.
[06:39] <Triffid_Hunter> B-Guelif: windows will silently overwrite your bootloader and may make a mess of other things too since the installer assumes it's the only OS on your system
[06:39] <hppavilion[1]> Triffid_Hunter: The problem is that, when I enter the BIOS, it doesn't exactly give me any options
[06:39] <hppavilion[1]> Some copyright, a few checks, and a prompt to "Press any key to continue"
[06:40] <Triffid_Hunter> hppavilion[1]: no idea then, find someone locally with some clue, ask them to make it work.. kinda hard to diagnose bios problems over the internet when I've never even seen a recent lenovo bios :P
[06:41] <vbotka> hppavilion[1], https://neosmart.net/wiki/enable-legacy-boot-mode/
[06:44] <DaveWM> I have an optimus laptop,  intel IGP and nvidia graphics...  I've already tried using nvidia prime and bumblebee,  but I was getting screen tearing when watching netflix in chrome.. even when supposedly the intel device was being used...  atm I've got everything working with  just intel and have not installed anything for nvidia... I'm curious how I might go about ensuring the nvidia card is off and not consuming power or generating heat
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime instead
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: wich grafix chipset, driver version and ubuntu version please?
[06:47] <oobartez> what's the status of snappy becoming the default package manager in Ubuntu Desktop? anywhere on the net I could find some up-to-date info?
[06:47] <DaveWM> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 540M]
[06:48] <DaveWM> ubuntu 15.10
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> oobartez: ask in #snappy perhaps
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: wich driver version?
[06:49] <DaveWM> lotuspsychje, I'm game for trying to get things working with prime,  but I currently have good video with just using the intel.. I haven't installed any nvidia drivers this time around because every time I messed with those I had the issues with screen tearing
[06:49] <oobartez> lotuspsychje: tried #snappy first but no answers yet
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: you might wanna try some different driver mate, from additional drivers section
[06:49] <Triffid_Hunter> DaveWM: if you don't have nvidia driver telling the chip to start, it should remain in a low power idle
[06:49] <DaveWM> so I really want to just disable the nvidia graphics on this particular installl,  I may create a duplicate and mess with getting everything working with the nvidia graphics included
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: you need right nvidia driver + nvidia-prime first before disabling performance mode
[06:50] <DaveWM> lotuspsychje, I've tried quite a few over the past week messing with nvidia-prime and with bumblebee
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: try a lower nvidia driver and reboot
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: like nvidia340 or 346 perhaps
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: when you get the right driver, disable performance mode from nvidia-settings to use your intel card
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> or enable...is how you need it
[06:52] <DaveWM> lotuspsychje, seems I also have read online that prime keeps the nvidia card powered even when not in use,  which is another reason I kind of like the thought of just disabling it's use completely
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: nvidia-prime is there to switch this....
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: whats the point of not using your nvidia card, when its inside your pc?
[06:53] <DaveWM> lotuspsychje, I understand what it's for,  what i'm trying to say is that I've already had it configured with different driver versions and still had the same screen tearing problem when watching netflix,  which I do a lot of
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: then you didnt found the right driver yet
[06:54] <DaveWM> I do plan on doing what you're saying and getting it working,  but on a different install of ubuntu... I just want one that works that I don't have to mess with right now
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: optimus cards need nvidia-prime installed, and fiddling to the right driver
[06:54] <Triffid_Hunter> DaveWM: screen tearing should be easy to fix, force vsync in nvidia settings for whatever app you're using
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: go check your additional drivers, wich version your on right now
[06:54] <hsia> helo
[06:55] <Triffid_Hunter> DaveWM: it's disabled by default because gamers like to see their games running at 3 million FPS even though the screen is only refreshed at 60Hz...
[06:55] <DaveWM> the odd thing is that it was having screen tearing even using intel graphics every time I setup anything with nvidia
[06:55] <DaveWM> maybe something to do with xorg settings.. but I just can't be sure.. all I know is I got smooth video right now
[06:55] <DaveWM> I'm only interested in making sure nvidia graphics is not using any power or making heat on this particular instance of ubuntu
[06:57] <Triffid_Hunter> DaveWM: it won't. the nvidia chip will remain in a micropower idle until told to do otherwise by a suitable driver
[06:58] <DaveWM> Triffid_Hunter, so if I haven't installed any nvidia drivers and my default output is the intel IGP atm... I don't have to mess with it?
[06:59] <DaveWM> I'm satisfied with that then.   I haven't noticed my fan kicking on as much as it does when nvidia is in use.. it's been pretty quiet... so maybe it's all good the way it is
[06:59] <Triffid_Hunter> DaveWM: yes
[07:00] <DaveWM> ok.. well good then..  sorry for wasting everybody's time.  lol
[07:01] <DaveWM> I am gonna get nvidia graphics working,  I just want a functional system without any video problems with this install.  I have been messing with that stuff a lot this past week and want to be able to watch netflix without having to boot into windows
[07:02] <DaveWM> tbh,  I don't even know if it had any impact on any other video or games or anything.. I just know that my favorite past-time of watching netflix was less than pleasant...
[07:07] <DaveWM> oh.  and thanks for the input Triffid_Hunter and lotuspsychje... I'm a bit anal and just wanted some peace of mind
[07:13] <ozmage> hello ubuntu
[07:13] <ozmage> how i can move the unity panel to the bottom like this http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/canonical-releases-groundbreaking-snapcraft-2-1-ubuntu-snappy-creator-tool-499880-2.jpg
[07:14] <ozmage> any one knows ?
[07:14] <xangua> ozmage: you will be able in Xenial
[07:15] <ozmage> oh i need xenial
[07:15] <ozmage> im downloading the xenial snapshot
[07:16] <cfhowlett> ozmage, thank you for volunteering to alpha test
[07:16] <ozmage> the one from the 1 of febrary was borked
[07:16] <ozmage> and wont booted
[07:16] <ozmage> not even on virtualbox
[07:17] <ozmage> also im installing unity on arch atm
[07:17] <ozmage> i like this new panel :)
[07:18] <ozmage> cfhowlett, no problem
[07:18] <ozmage> thx for the great job :)
[07:23] <ubuntu-gnome> hmm
[07:25] <goddard> anyone know of an update that wants to turn off UEFI
[07:25] <goddard> i got this message Your system has UEFI Secure Boot enabled. UEFI Secure Boot is not compatible with the use of third-party drivers.
[07:26] <EriC^^> goddard: when did you get this msg?
[07:26] <EriC^^> is this a mac?
[07:26] <Triffid_Hunter> goddard: wtf, I have computers with uefi and 3rd party drivers
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !wtf | Triffid_Hunter,
[07:26] <goddard> after an nvidia update
[07:26] <EriC^^> mac?
[07:27] <Gamah> Laptop?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> goddard, nvidia should not be doing that ... What kind of computer is this??
[07:27] <goddard> razer blade 2015
[07:31] <zhenxi> Does ubuntu can be installed in btrfs？
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !btfrs
[07:32] <cfhowlett> zhenxi, btrfs will be supported in 16.04
[07:32] <rms_returns> Anyone from /r/linux or /r/ubuntu here ?
[07:32] <xangua> !ask | rms_returns
[07:32] <zhenxi> i know，but i can not installed it
[07:36] <zhenxi> 11.04 can be supported
[07:36] <cfhowlett> 11.04 is WAY paste end of life and should not be used!
[07:36] <xangua> 11.04 has been unsupported  for more than 3 years
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !11.04 | zhenxi
[07:37] <karex_> !vpn
[07:37] <cfhowlett> zhenxi, if you are using this release, you have ZERO security.  upgrade to a supported version immediately, 14.04 recommended.
[07:38] <zhenxi> i want install 14.04 on btrfs subvolume
[07:39] <zhenxi> by the debootstrap
I want install 14.04 on btrfs subvolume by the debootstrap
[07:42] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[07:43] <zhenxi> the subvolume must be @  ?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | zhenxi
[07:45] <Spitfire5> How to write compiz to autostart in Lubuntu (LXDE)?
[07:46] <xangua> Spitfire5: "compiz --replace" in startup apps
[07:47] <DaveWM> isn't there a Preferences>Default Applications>Autostart
[07:48] <Spitfire5> Where are "startup apps"?
[07:48] <DaveWM> ^^
[07:49] <Spitfire5> DaveWM: this don't work
[07:49] <zhenxi> ubottu: Are you officials
[07:50] <DaveWM> Spitfire5, i'm not in lxde so I wasn't really sure... are you saying there's no autostart on the menu?
[07:51] <zhenxi> --||  ,So many Bot
[07:52] <goddard> well i just said no and it looks like it still works haha
[07:53] <DaveWM> Spitfire5, here's another option right at the top http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart
[07:54] <DaveWM> keep in mind you'll have to log out and back in
[07:54] <Spitfire5> DaveWM: thanks
[07:55] <abolfazl123> I type "sudo cd /root" in terminal but it say "sudo: cd: command not found".what's the problem?
[07:55] <Triffid_Hunter> abolfazl123: cd is a bash builtin, not a regular command
[07:56] <EriC^^> abolfazl123: cd is a builtin in bash
[07:56] <Spitfire5> but.. no thanks for you
[07:57] <abolfazl123> what's it means?I don't now the meanig that!!!
[07:57] <EriC^^> abolfazl123: it means it's something builtin into bash itself, not a program that's in /usr etc.
[07:58] <Spitfire5> this also don't work
[07:58] <abolfazl123> so how i can go to the /root?
[07:59] <EriC^^> abolfazl123: if you want to see what's in /root and traverse the directory you need to do sudo -i to get root privileges then cd /root cd etc..
[07:59] <abolfazl123> ok
[08:02] <UserUS> I think it'd be just cd /
[08:03] <DaveWM> Spitfire5, what exactly isn't working?
[08:09] <Spitfire5> DaveWM: please wait - I'll just reboot
[08:09] <Guest5114> hi, is it funny to install ubuntu on macbook pro?
[08:10] <MiscGeek_> Guest5114, that is the only thing to do with a macbook pro :)
[08:10] <zhenxi> cfhowlett: Which ubuntu can rolling updates
[08:10] <cfhowlett> zhenxi, ubuntu does not do rolling updates
[08:11] <cfhowlett> Guest5114, fun?  funny?  either way, it has been done
[08:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu  ≠ rolling release
[08:12] <Guest5114> better to learn howto use mac or install ubuntu on it? im lost pls give a hint
[08:13] <cfhowlett> Guest5114, question makes no sense.  ubuntu runs on a mac.  want to learn ubuntu?  install.  learn.
[08:13] <zhenxi> Canonical said ubuntu will support rolling updates
[08:14] <OerHeks> zhenxi, nope, there was a discussion, but it is not going to happen.
[08:14] <cfhowlett> zhenxi, *final answer*.  TODAY ubuntu does not do rolling releases.   TODAY there has  been no official announcement of rolling releases
[08:14] <zhenxi> oh,soga
[08:15] <Spitfire5> Ooooh yeah all are workin'!!!! Thanks!!!!8-)
[08:15] <Guest5114> is it easy to install ubuntu on mac? try to keep mac
[08:16] <somsip> !mac | Guest5114
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Guest5114, how many times are you going to ask???
[08:17] <Guest5114> i install ubuntu on win7 before, it is easy
[08:19] <Spitfire5> There are the new question, howto install mor compiz plugins???
[08:20] <Spitfire5> *there is
[08:20] <Spitfire5> *more
[08:20] <xangua> there are no more compiz plugins, compiz is dying
[08:21] <Spitfire5> Whaaaat?
[08:21] <Spitfire5> Why?
[08:21] <Spitfire5> I mean compiz-fusion
[08:21] <DaveWM> Spitfire5, what are you trying to accomplish using compliz when you're using lxde ?
[08:22] <Spitfire5> compton is scum
[08:22] <DaveWM> *compiz
[08:22] <DaveWM> just curious
[08:23] <OerHeks> Up to now, there are no plans porting Compiz to Wayland
[08:27] <Spitfire5> DaveWM:  cuz compton hasn't  such usual config-manager as compiz
[08:29] <wyrie> hi. is there a setting I can change in 14.04 which makes alt+tab switch to the previous window that was focused?
[08:30] <Gotham25_> Hi. I have a doubt in ubuntu upgradation.
[08:30] <xangua> wyrie: alt+shift+tab I believe, you can see Unity shorcuts if you hold Super key
[08:31] <Gotham25_> Can I upgrade from Ubuntu 14.0 to 16.0 using ubuntu 16.0 iso image file
[08:31] <cfhowlett> Gotham25, 14.04 to 16.04
[08:31] <Gotham25_> cfhowlett: yes
[08:32] <EriC^^> Gotham25_: nope, it'll fresh install
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Gotham25, yes you can upgrade LTS to LTS
[08:32] <wyrie> xangua: thanks, when i try that it moves tabs in the current window. will look at unity shortcuts
[08:32] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: using an iso image he cant though, no?
[08:32] <Gotham25_> cfhowlett: Yeah I know that. But can it be done using iso file.
[08:32] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, ah, right.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Gotham25, you don't "upgrade" from an .iso, you INSTALL from an .iso.  However, you CAN live upgrade from 14.04 > 16.04
[08:33] <cfhowlett> no .ios
[08:33] <OerHeks> Gotham25_, not yet, after release maybe. it was possible upgrading 14.04 > 14.10 .. http://askubuntu.com/a/543249
[08:33] <OerHeks> ( with iso)
[08:34] <OerHeks> not recommended, as you might have more software installed than available on dvd.
[08:34] <EriC^^> cool, learn something new every day
[08:34] <Gotham25_> OerHeks: Soeven upgrade too wipes your entire data va
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Gotham25, not if you move your data to a /home
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !home | Gotham25
[08:35] <OerHeks> Gotham25_, ? wipes data?
[08:35] <OerHeks> anyway, always backup your data when upgraden, if you dont, your data is not important anyway
[08:36] <Wobbo> Good morning. I use my Wacom Intuos Pro. And it works very well. I try to use the pad buttons work like the left and right mouse buttons. But I can not. Can anyone help me?
[08:36] <OerHeks> !15.04
[08:38] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[08:42] <Gotham25_> OerHeks: so even upgrade too wipes your entire data ?? right
[08:42] <OerHeks> Gotham25_, i don't know where you get that from, not from me.
[08:43] <OerHeks> generally: if you do such big actions, always backup your data.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Gotham25, in place upgrade should not, but that is not what you described.  installing from .iso CAN if done improperly and without a dedicated /home partition
[08:52] <LibertyWeNeed> Does anyone know of a GNU/Linux replacement or alternative to Apple's Logic Pro. I want to use a MIDI keyboard to play and record music. Logic Pro has thousands of built in sounds, i was wondering if something like this is offered in the land of Freedom?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, yes
[08:52] <XinZhao> Hi, I just installed lamp-server and then phpmyadmin
[08:52] <zhenxi> Who have installed ubuntu 16.04?
[08:52] <XinZhao> but I can't find where to access phpmyadmin by default
[08:52] <XinZhao> anyone know?
[08:52] <xangua> !16.04 | zhenxi
[08:53] <Wobbo> I've been around there. Ubuntu setting wacom setting is great, except for the set of buttons of a keyboard. Things like a-z h1-h12 works. But things like tap, Backspace, Return, Caps, shift, etc does not really possible. And i can't find a way to get the set mouse button in de wacom pad.  De terminal setting is very complicated.
[08:53] <zhenxi> Bot?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, #opensourcemusicians is one stop for you.  also, install the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage for all the music making toys you'll evere want
[08:53] <LibertyWeNeed> cfhowlett, Thank you :)
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, this is not hardware support for wacom.  best support is on the link I sent you
[08:54] <LibertyWeNeed> Do you know if MIDI instruments are built in?
[08:54] <LibertyWeNeed> ubottu, is that LTS?
[08:54] <OerHeks> !info ardour
[08:54] <cfhowlett> zhenxi, 16.04 is not even in beta yet.  discuss in #ubuntu+1 not here
[08:54] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, there are midi instruments available
[08:54] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, check out ubuntu-studio and ardour
[08:54] <Wobbo> ok
[08:54] <cfhowlett> and 16.04 will be LTS
[08:56] <nebraska> guys why i cant type a password for sudo in terminal?
[08:56] <nebraska> its written: sudo password for nebraska and i cant type anything then
[08:56] <OerHeks> nebraska, youcan, you only do not see what you type, as a security measure
[08:56] <cfhowlett> nebraska, passwords are not displayed but are registered
[08:56] <Wobbo> Sorry. But i have another problem, a hardware problem.
[08:56] <Guest17725> Hi. I have hard time configuring chroot with ubuntu 14.04 using schroot. I can login with no problem but calling applications requiring X works not so well. Sometimes setting display works, while sometimes not. No it wants XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. Does anyone has a comprehensive guide on how to setup debootstrap with X?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, ask
[08:57] <Wobbo> I am not very fond of Mac-devices except for the bluetooth keyboard. In Ubuntu 15.04 it was working great! Until I installed the 15.10... Before I upgraded Ubuntu it was possible for me to use the keyboard to log in upon starting up the PC. Now, however, it has a lot of problems.
[08:57] <Wobbo> In the bluetooth settings I often can't find the keyboard. If it does find the keyboard, the connection often fails (I did check the keyboard on a Mac, it works without any issues). If I click on the bluetooth icon (right top) the keyboard is there. If it connects and remains connected, nothing works. Sometimes the connections goes on and of repeatedly. And sometimes it works, but after a while a button gets stuck (for example "aaaaaaaaaaa
[08:57] <Wobbo> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"). To solve this I erased everything called bluetooth in: .1 stuff like: update-notifier-crash-_var_crash__usr_lib_bluetooth_bluetoothd.0.crash.l og.1.gz. This works... for a short time.
[08:58] <zhenxi> I know, I just  install ubuntu in the sub-volume like arch
[08:58] <nebraska> cfhowlett, OerHeks, thanks guys, it helped
[08:58] <cfhowlett> happy2help! nebraska
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth Wobbo
[09:04] <Wobbo> Wat bedoel je met !bluetooth?
[09:04] <Wobbo> Sorry.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, ... in english??
[09:04] <Wobbo> What do you mean! Bluetooth?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | Wobbo      sorry I mistyped the trigger
[09:08] <Wobbo> Thanks
[09:22] <Wobbo> ubottu, the url is old. Nothing to use this for my problem.
[09:29] <nebraska> i have an usb hdd, but when i plug it in i cant see it - how to solve that one?
[09:30] <OerHeks> nebraska, what filesystem is on that hdd?
[09:31] <EriC^^> nebraska: does it show up in sudo parted -l ?
[09:34] <nebraska> EriC^^, no, it doesn't - its file system is ntfs but i use i also use it on win pc
[09:34] <EriC^^> nebraska: check dmesg after you plug it in
[09:35] <nebraska> sudo dmesg
[09:35] <nebraska> oh
[09:35] <nebraska> sorry
[09:50] <jesusaur> is anyone else seeing strange kernel issues with linux-image-extra-3.13.0-77-generic?
[09:51] <jesusaur> for example, I can't modprobe aufs, the system fails to open /lib/modules/3.13.0-77-generic/modules.dep.bin
[09:58] <XinZhao> hey anyone know how to use google drive on ubuntu 15?
[09:59] <OerHeks> !info grive
[09:59] <slainvalkry> whoa I'd be interested to know as well if you find anything
[09:59] <XinZhao> yeah I gave that a go but its kinda cryptic
[09:59] <XinZhao> and I got a curl error
[10:00] <OerHeks> All i know Grive allows synchronize your Google Drive files with a directory on your local storage from the command-line.
[10:01] <XinZhao> http://prntscr.com/9yu925
[10:01] <XinZhao> and if it HAS sync'd anything it doesnt say where
[10:02] <XinZhao> its ok, ill just smb share it from windows host
[10:02] <XinZhao> id just have preferred it this way
[10:05] <OerHeks> XinZhao, you should see a google drive folder in your /home
[10:05] <OerHeks> * after getting and pasting the code to get access.
[10:06] <XinZhao> nah I dont just keep getting curl errors
[10:08] <XinZhao> hmm
[10:08] <XinZhao> smb doesnt seem to like symbolic links
[10:09] <hmf> hey, i need g++-4.9.. i'm on ubuntu 14.04.3, have to compile some code that needs g++ -std=c++14
[10:09] <hmf> unfortunately
[10:10] <hmf> g++-4.8 is the latest version
[10:10] <hmf> i added another repo and tried apt-get install g++-4.9
[10:10] <hmf> it asked me to press Y/n to continue
[10:10] <hmf> i hit y
[10:10] <hmf> it Aborts.
[10:10] <hmf> "Abort" message
[10:11] <hmf> that was counterintuitive
[10:11] <hmf> maybe i should have hit n
[10:11] <hmf> heh
[10:12] <Lingo> t
[10:12] <hmf> How easy would it be to rip dbus (which is a completely crap) out of Ubuntu
[10:13] <hmf> really need this messaging system running underneath the kernel
[10:13] <hmf> its like some microkernel running in userland for passing messages.. for people who don't know how to use socket(PF_UNIX)
[10:17] <XinZhao> hmmm ok so I smb shared my windows hosts google drive folder
[10:17] <XinZhao> added to my fstab, works fine
[10:17] <XinZhao> but I want to symlink it into /var/www
[10:17] <XinZhao> keeps saying.. ln: failed to create hard link ‘/var/www/html/_google’ => ‘/media/google/’: Invalid cross-device link
[10:20] <XinZhao> oh all working now
[10:20] <XinZhao> sweeeet
[10:27] <nos09> hi i have raspberry pi setup with openelec. and I want to setup my ubuntu machine as mythtv-backend server. so how to tell kodi to find that server from the  network ?
[10:27] <bazhang> !mythtv
[10:28] <bazhang> nos09, see above channel
[10:29] <nos09> thanks
[10:32] <circle_> Anyway to backup installed softwares
[10:35] <bazhang> !aptoncd | circle_
[10:36] <leonarth> I see this process in htop, I would like to know what launched it, is there a way to identify this?
[10:36] <leonarth> postfix   4792  0.0  0.1  42424  2752 ?        S    11:31   0:00 smtp -t unix -u -c
[10:39] <OerHeks> nos09, openelec ? carefull ... http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/544527
[10:43] <akik> leonarth: you can see the parent pid with "ps -ef | grep smtp". the ppid is the third column
[10:43] <leonarth> thank you akik !
[10:44] <leonarth> akik the parent pid is /usr/lib/postfix/master ...
[10:47] <akik> leonarth: looks fine
[10:47] <leonarth> I believe some website I host is launching all these smtp processes for spam
[10:47] <leonarth> but can't identify which one it is
[10:48] <leonarth> akik https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbp8hiuy322k4ck/Screenshot%202016-02-04%2011.48.00.png?dl=0
[10:48] <akik> leonarth: you need to start monitoring postfix log files and apache log files
[10:51] <akik> or whatever your httpd is
[10:58] <Mathisen> is rsync the better chooice for syncing 2 folder localy ?
[10:59] <Mathisen> or is there any simpler ones around for local syncing ?
[10:59] <akik> Mathisen: you can't go wrong with rsync :)
[11:00] <Mathisen> true
[11:02] <akik> Mathisen: then when you know how to sync locally, it's just a small step to start syncing over ssh
[11:04] <socratex> Hello. I have a problem with my ubuntu 14.04. Can anyone help me?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !ask | socratex
[11:05] <Coquerlard> hi there yung bucks I need to add kernel parameters to an EFI boot entry made with bcfg in a EFI shell, any idea what option to use in order to do so ?
[11:13] <socratex> My problem description: when I plug a jack (like a headphones or other) and there is nothing sounding, I can hear a noise at background. When I play a video, at the start the sound makes like a crack or pop noise and then the video sounds with no problem. But when I stop back de video, another pop noise and de background noise starts again. Can someone help me? Excuse my English.
[11:19] <socratex> I forgot say something: I think is not a hardware problem, because the sound works with no problem in windows.
[11:27] <eamador> join #drupal
[11:34] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hello, what do I have to install in order to have mkfs.btrfs available?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | Ccdc_DuckZ
[11:35] <bazhang> !info btrfs-tools
[11:35] <Ccdc_DuckZ> cfhowlett: right, thanks, I'll stick to ext4 then
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Ccdc_DuckZ, happy2help!
[11:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:58] <UserUS> anyone hear heard anything about being able to upgrade from 14 to 16? Both LTS
[12:02] <Mathisen> hello im new to rsync, is it realy as simples as " rsync -r dir1/ dir2 " to sync 2 local folders ?
[12:03] <Mathisen> will that run a deamon for it all the time ? or one time command to sync strait away ?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> !rsync | Mathisen
[12:05] <Halacs> hi, is anybody here who knows preseed opcions?
[12:06] <jdo_dk> Is this the right channel to ask questions regarding diffeculties about vmware tools and shared folder in ubuntu server ?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> jdo_dk, ask
[12:10] <Halacs> however nobody answered jet, I give it a try: I got always this error message: http://imgur.com/lhkPuKS
[12:10] <jdo_dk> I have vmware fusion installed on my mac, i have a vmware running ubuntu server 14.04. I have shared a folder from my mac. First i installed the official vmware-tools, but everytime i reboot my ubuntu, i have to run the vmware-tools-install.pl to see my shared folder in /mnt/hgfs, so what is the easiest or most correct way to get access to my shared folder in ubuntu, without the need to config vmware every time?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> and a mac too!  lots of layers to this onion.  I suggest you try virtualbox as the saner optoin
[12:11] <krypto> i am using ubuntu 14.04 with LACP bonding sometimes during reboot bonding algorithm changes to round robin,if i reboot again it will be back in LACP.Any bug against this?
[12:12] <krypto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14876833/
[12:12] <krypto> configuration and current algorithm used
[12:13] <jdo_dk> cfhowlett: Don get it. VMware installed on mac, a vmware "client" running ubuntu server. Folder shared in mac, should be accessible from the ubuntu server / vmware client ?
[12:13] <Desu> Halacs: no jet for you, but you can have a pony
[12:13] <Desu> Halacs: anyway, read the log it points at
[12:14] <cfhowlett> jdo_dk, sounds legit but I don't do mac or vmware, so can't give meaningful advice
[12:14] <kivi> I can't find the mediawiki package, described in this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaWiki -- is it in a new repo, or under a new package name now?
[12:14] <ozmage> hello
[12:14] <jdo_dk> cfhowlett: I have shared the folder in vmware fusion, just need ubuntu server to mount the drive. So my question is: open-vm-tools og vm-tools ?
[12:14] <StormofBytes> Hija guys ^_^
[12:16] <ozmage> somebody can paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg from xenial installaton for me the installer failed to install grub and i dont have grub.cfg pls
[12:16] <cfhowlett> kivi, what ubuntu do you have??
[12:16] <kivi> 16.04
[12:17] <kivi> cfhowlett, ubuntu+1 ? :s
[12:17] <cfhowlett> kivi, thank you for beta testing!  +1 with you
[12:17] <kivi> cfhowlett, if you are on 15.10, mind just checking if the package is available?
[12:17] <kivi> just curious
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !info media wiki vivid
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !find mediawiki
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !find mediawiki wiley
[12:18] <ozmage> somebody can paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg from xenial installaton for me the installer failed to install grub and i dont have grub.cfg pls ?
[12:18] <kivi> cfhowlett, wow, didn't realize ubottu had that capability; good to know!
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !info mediawiki wily | kivi sorry for the irc vomit
[12:20] <Mathisen> anyone know of a way to sync a dropbox folder with a seafile server ?
[12:22] <ozmage> somebody can paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg from xenial installaton for me the installer failed to install grub and i dont have grub.cfg pls ? no one ?
[12:23] <bekks> ozmage: Showing that file will not magically grub.
[12:23] <ozmage> i only need that
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | ozmage, thanks for beta testing.
[12:23] <linuxstudent> help
[12:23] <linuxstudent> help
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !ask | linuxstudent
[12:24] <linuxstudent> !ask help
[12:24] <v0r0nwe> o.O
[12:24] <linuxstudent> HELP
[12:25] <bekks> linuxstudent: Ask your question.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> linuxstudent, see, now, HERE is where we expect you to actually state your problem --- cause Ms. Cleo has already gone home
[12:25] <linuxstudent> GO HOME YOUR DRUNK
[12:25] <BluesKaj> linuxstudent, just state your issue
[12:25] <cfhowlett> I think he just did
[12:25] <linuxstudent> bye
[12:29] <neil_> I have been trying to install 15.10 on a new lenovo ideapad 300, but it has been giving me a lot of trouble.. I have managed to get though the dual boot installation without errors, now when ever I boot I get a kernel panic... can't execute '/sbin/init' unknown error 4094 ... can anyone help
[12:36] <BluesKaj> neil_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2305360
[12:39] <prodeep> hello
[12:39] <tony_> 你好
[12:39] <cfhowlett> tony_, in English?
[12:40] <whqing> Chinese, aha
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !cn | tony_
[12:40] <makis> I have ubuntu mate 15.04. Also, I have AIO Epson Xp610. How to install it?? I Downloaded the deb file from official EPson webpage but it required the disk file. I inserted it but no way. I tried installing via TAR archive but I am not good with COMPILE. Can someone help me??
[12:40] <tony_> hello我
[12:41] <bekks> !15.04 | makis
[12:41] <cfhowlett> makis, no longer supported
[12:42] <makis> How can I upgrade the copy of my distro??
[12:43] <crypt0> makis: dist-upgrade
[12:43] <tony_> 有同类吗？
[12:43] <Blaze_Boy> I should learn chinese
[12:43] <BluesKaj> makis, try sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:44] <whqing> tony_, where are you from?
[12:44] <tony_> china
[12:44] <cfhowlett> makis, download 15.10 from ubuntu.com
[12:45] <Blaze_Boy> is there anyway to install Ubuntu on my android phone? a ROM for that or something?
[12:45] <whqing>  witch city ?
[12:45] <tony_> 辽宁
[12:45] <prodeep> hello guys
[12:45] <Blaze_Boy> prodeep: hey
[12:45] <cfhowlett> whqing, tony go to a private channel for chitchat.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> tonyno point asking in chinese here, this is an English chat
[12:46] <tony_> ok
[12:50] <ozmage> somebody can paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg for me is because the installer failed to install grub and now i dont have grub.cfg and im booting from grub from my arch installation ,pls
[12:50] <ozmage> there is no one on #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <ozmage> i need the grub.cfg
[12:50] <ozmage> i just need an example
[12:51] <Guest90759> hello I'm using Ubuntu Mate and the Create Launcher window has textbox background set to white and text foreground to light grey so I barely can see the text, how can I solve it? Thanks
[12:52] <bekks> ozmage: There are 123 people in #ubuntu+1
[12:54] <crypt0> whoa netsplit
[12:54] <crypt0> dafuq
[12:54] <homa> hi my friends
[12:54] <tsp`> that's no netsplit
[12:54] <ozmage> bekks, can you paste your grub.cfg from your installation pls i dont care if its is willy
[12:54] <tsp`> the server appears to have dropped a number of connections
[12:56] <Guest90759> can someone help me?
[12:57] <Guest90759> the Create Launcher text is barely visible
[12:58] <ozmage> bekks, can you paste your grub.cfg from your installation pls i dont care if its is willy i just need an example
[13:01] <nchambers_> hey guys... so last night my mouse freaked out on me and moved /etc to /home/etc. Obviously I couldn't properly use the computer after that. I have since fixed the issue by adding init=/bin/sh to my grub boot arguments, which drops me into a shell. I then do cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5; mkdir -p /mnt/sda5; vgchange -a y; mount /dev/mapper/elementary--vg-root /mnt/sda5; I was then able to move /home/etc/ back to /etc (/
[13:01] <nchambers_> being the root of *my* filesystem of course). but now when I boot normally, it says it can't find /dev/mapper/elementary--vg-root. how do I fix this?
[13:02] <ozmage> what the hell nobody helps nobody here .....
[13:02] <cfhowlett> ozmage, 1.  drop the attitude - it only motivates /ignore.   2.  your release is supported ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[13:03] <Guest90759> ozmage, I went to the mate channel because of that, got help there
[13:05] <ozmage> im asking for a stupid thing
[13:05] <neil_> BluesKaj, I tried the fix recommended in the link, it didn't help ... now I get a similar error ... can't execute '/sbin/upstart': Unknown error 4094
[13:05] <ozmage> nobody can paste a simple grub.cfg
[13:06] <ozmage> it dont need to be from xenial
[13:06] <ozmage> i only need an example
[13:06] <BluesKaj> neil_, you should be using systemd not init and upstart
[13:06] <EriC^^> ozmage: what's the problem?
[13:06] <ozmage> EriC^^, hi there
[13:07] <ozmage> i installed ubuntu but the installer failed to install grub
[13:07] <ozmage> and i dont have grub.cfg
[13:07] <neil_> BluesKaj, so how do I do that
[13:07] <ozmage> and i need somebody who paste it to bpaste nopaste whatever
[13:08] <ozmage> to get an idea to make my own
[13:08] <ozmage> the grub.cfg dont need to be from xenial it can be from willy
[13:08] <EriC^^> ozmage: can you boot a live usb?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> neil_, check in the terminal to see what your OS is using, ps -p 1
[13:09] <ozmage> im on ubuntu
[13:09] <EriC^^> ozmage: you need to reinstall grub and run update-grub
[13:09] <ozmage> no i only need the grub.cfg
[13:09] <ozmage> i dont want toinstall grub from ubuntu
[13:09] <rihbyne> BluesKaj:I have ubuntu 15.10. but mongod still uses upstart. how do I switch to using systemctl ?
[13:09] <ozmage> i want to continue using my grub
[13:10] <sudeep_dk> hi all
[13:10] <ozmage> grub-git from git to boot freebsd zfs
[13:10] <neil_> BluesKaj, how do I do that it won't boot to check anything... I install from a USB liveimage do you want me to check it?
[13:10] <rihbyne> sudeep_dk:hey! :)
[13:10] <ub_ubuntu> the shutdown and restart buttons are missing. What to do..?
[13:10] <sudeep_dk> hi @rihbune
[13:10] <ozmage> i only need the menu entry to copy paste it on my own grub.cfg
[13:10] <BluesKaj> neil_, no it will just check the usb image
[13:11] <ozmage>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-2-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 380  @ 2.53GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 933MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.6GiB, 71.2% free ** Disk: Total: 88.8GiB, 37.5% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82577LC Gigabit Network Connection **
[13:11] <ozmage> Uptime: 43m 50s **
[13:11] <rihbyne> BluesKaj:why ubuntu 15.10 has both systemctl and upstart ?
[13:11] <ozmage> im inside ubuntu .....
[13:11] <ioria> ozmage, /usr/share/doc/grub-common/examples/grub.cfg   not useful ?
[13:11] <ozmage> nope
[13:12] <rihbyne> because current ubuntu version doesnt support running mongod via systemctl.
[13:12] <sudeep_dk> while using upstart mongod my system freez many time
[13:13] <rihbyne> sudeep_dk:how do you garauntee that? check your /var/logs/msgs
[13:13] <dk`> Hi
[13:13] <dk`> question reqgarding dpkg/deb.
[13:14] <bekks> dk`: dont ask to ask, just ask.
[13:14] <rihbyne> anyone on systemd and upstart?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> !systemd | neil_, rihbyne
[13:14] <dk`> i have created custom pkg as user1 , while installing dpkg -i pkg.deb its preserving the ownership of user1, how to make root default
[13:15] <dk`> I am installing package as root.
[13:15] <rihbyne> BluesKaj:it also using upstart which is nothing in front of systemd
[13:15] <ozmage> who is running willy and can paste /boot/grub/grub.cfg for me pls
[13:15] <bekks> dk`: BY fixing the permission before putting your files into your package. And creating the package as root.
[13:15] <dk`> bekks: any other way? can it be done while installing
[13:16] <bekks> dk`: Nope
[13:16] <nchambers_> anyone?
[13:16] <dk`> bekks: ok
[13:16] <BluesKaj> rihbyne, I'm not promoting systemd, but I think neil_ needs it since his init and upstart aren't working
[13:16] <bekks> nchambers_: Which OS are you on?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> nchambers_, you have elementary OS
[13:16] <nchambers_> cfhowlett, can I not get help here then?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !elementaray | nchambers_
[13:17] <bekks> !elementaryos | nchambers_
[13:17] <dk`> bekks: I don't have root permission on that box? so how do I fix the permission ?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> elementary (should) provide support for it's OS.  if not --- perhaps reconsider your choice
[13:17] <bekks> dk`: If you dont have root permissions on that box, you cannot install packages using dpkg -i
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !elementary | nchambers_
[13:19] <ub_ubuntu> how to i get back restart and shutdown buttons...
[13:19] <ozmage> dammmmmmm
[13:19] <dk`> bekks: I am just creating package on that box. .deb will be installed on other box which has root permission
[13:19] <neil_> BluesKaj, I tried the advanced options -> (upstart) selection ... it errors too ... none of the entries in the advanced options work.
[13:19] <bekks> dk`: Then you need to create the package on a box where you have root permissions.
[13:26] <dk`> bekks: ok
[13:26] <BluesKaj> neil_, which OS did you install?
[13:27] <neil_> BluesKaj, 15.10 ... I downloaded the iso from the download site, put it on a USB pendrive ... updated it it then did the install.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> neil_, recommend you use the appropriate image here, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/source/pending/source/
[13:31] <fernando_> Hello
[13:32] <fernando_> someone can tell me how can i update my asrock n68c-gs fx drivers?
[13:32] <bekks> fernando_: Depends on the graphics card you are using.
[13:34] <fernando_> i dont have graphic card,
[13:34] <fernando_> well, is the integrated one
[13:35] <bekks> fernando_: And which one is it?
[13:37] <neil_> BluesKaj, why use these, aren't those the source... wouldn't I need to compile everything to get something working?
[13:37] <fernando_> ASRock N68C-GS FX (OEM) SocketAM2(GeForce 7025) PCI-E-SVGA-GbLAN SATA RAID MicroATX 2DDR-II-2DDR-III
[13:37] <sergiosalazar> Holi
[13:37] <fernando_> i think is geforce 7025
[13:38] <bekks> fernando_: So look it up instead. sudo lspci -k
[13:39] <fernando_> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
[13:39] <bekks> fernando_: And which driver are you using, currently?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> neil_, yes, but you'll have the latest image, weird that systemd wasn't default on your current image, unless you installed to / and have a separate /home partition , then the conf files would change things
[13:41] <fernando_> nvidia legacy binary driver - version 304.131.
[13:41] <bekks> fernando_: And whats wrong with them?
[13:41] <neil_> BluesKaj, I did a default install, all in the one partition.
[13:42] <fernando_> sometimes my pc crashes
[13:42] <fernando_> sometimes is really slowly
[13:42] <fernando_> i have 4gb ram
[13:42] <fernando_> and a amd processor
[13:43] <bekks> fernando_: And why do you think upgrading your driver will magically fix it?
[13:44] <fernando_> i dont think so, i just think that this gonna help me a lot
[13:45] <cfhowlett> fernando_, using a lighter ubuntu would help.  unity can be greedy.  try xubuntu or lubuntu, possibly mate
[13:45] <ub_ubuntu> how to restore shutdown button in ubuntu 15.10
[13:46] <fernando_> yeah
[13:46] <fernando_> im using mate
[13:46] <afrokarlsson> monday cars runs in blue gas, tuesday on yellow gas, wednesday on black gas, thursday on green gas, saturday on white gas and sunday on colorless gas
[13:46] <ub_ubuntu> i am using unity
[13:46] <cfhowlett> afrokarlsson, check your channel, this is ubuntu support
[13:47] <BluesKaj> neil_, did you download the iso from here ? http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/
[13:49] <neil_> BluesKaj, I don't remember exactly.... what do you think of trying the the daily build of 16.04?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> neil_, well I run 16.04 , but I use kubuntu/plsam/kde desktop, quite different than unity or gnome
[13:50] <BluesKaj> plasma even
[13:51] <neil_> BluesKaj, I think I will give it a go... but it will be hours before I know... my Internet speed is very very slow currently.
[13:54] <neil_> BluesKaj, eta 4 hours
[13:57] <BluesKaj> neil_, I'll be around ;-)
[14:00] <david_> ciao
[14:01] <david_> c'è nessuno?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !it | david_
[14:06] <rtyio> hi t
[14:06] <rtyio> is it possible to add comment like that on vi ?
[14:06] <rtyio> test    # this a text ?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !test | rtyio
[14:09] <skinux> Is this the best way to downgrade PHP? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116254/how-to-downgrade-from-php-5-4-to-5-3
[14:09] <skinux> I need to try downgrading from 7
[14:09] <bekks> skinux: Which Ubuntu do you run?
[14:10] <skinux> Regular Trusty AFAIK
[14:10] <skinux> LTS
[14:10] <skinux> It's server only
[14:10] <nacc> skinux: then how did you get php 7?
[14:10] <skinux> Homestead VM
[14:10] <arlekin> hi there - i just freshly installed ubuntu 14.04 (cause 15.10 is apparently evil) and i wonder how can i generate proper .ssh folder ? i want to have my old key, and simple copypasting of the .ssh folder doesn't seem to work
[14:11] <skinux> 14.04.1
[14:11] <rtyio> it is not working
[14:11] <nacc> skinux: not sure what this, but presuming it's actually a virtual machine, and you're running PHP7 in the VM, shouldn't you talk to homestead about it?
[14:12] <miedziak> Hey guys, looking to buy USB headset with microphone. Can you recommend me what some of you use?
[14:12] <skinux> There is no homestead channel
[14:12] <skinux> It's really a Ubuntu issue, because the VM is a Ubuntu VM.
[14:12] <nacc> skinux: php7 isn't available in any version of Ubuntu Trusty
[14:12] <skinux> Neither homestead nor vagrant are the OS
[14:12] <nacc> skinux: so its not a "Ubuntu" VM at that point
[14:13] <skinux> Well, uname -a says Ubuntu
[14:13] <miedziak> skinux, they mean official distribution and official package sources only Ubuntu.
[14:13] <skinux> Okay, bottom line, is the link I posted the right way to downgrade PHP?
[14:14] <nacc> skinux: that's probably how you downgrade the version from ubuntu; but you installed something not from ubuntu
[14:14] <skinux> Okay, so, maybe I just need to install PHP 5.3/4 and set all aliases to use 5.3/4 instead of 7
[14:14] <nacc> skinux: so dunno what you did
[14:14] <skinux> I didn't. Homestead is a pre-packaged VM.
[14:15] <nacc> skinux: afaict, homestead is using vagrant to setup a VM to have the whole stack
[14:15] <nacc> skinux: so are you asking how to downgrade the version of php in your homestead VM?
[14:15] <nacc> skinux: as the VM shoudln't have had any effect in your host
[14:15] <skinux> Yes.
[14:15] <skinux> Host is Windows
[14:15] <nacc> skinux: then ask homestead. that is quite clearly 100% a homestead problem
[14:15] <lanoxx> if I share a folder with nautilus where does nautilus or samba store that configuration data?
[14:16] <serkan> Hello
[14:17] <tester> ---
[14:17] <tester> HI
[14:17] <serkan> I can't install Adobe Flash plugin can you help?
[14:18] <teward> serkan: what did you try so far?
[14:18] <guest> serkan: Hi, what are you doing to install it?
[14:18] <guest> serkan: you should install the package "flashplugin-installer" from the Software Centre or by "apt-get install"
[14:19] <serkan> so far, the Flash Player on the site I downloaded the file but it won't open with wine
[14:19] <guest> serkan: do you need flash plugin for Ubuntu or for Windows programs in Wine?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> it's not SUPPOSED to open in wine!
[14:19] <teward> serkan: you should only install `flashplugin-installer` with `apt-get install flashplugin-installer`
[14:19] <guest> serkan: you should install the version of flash for Linux, not for Windows, because you are using Linux not Windows.
[14:19] <teward> serkan: you should NOT download Flash from their site, and use what's in the repositories instead
[14:19] <serkan> guest: I wonder how can I do that
[14:19] <teward> serkan: or, use Google Chrome
[14:20] <guest> serkan: read up
[14:20] <serkan> yes
[14:21] <miedziak> Can anyone recommend USB headset w/microphone that was just plug'n'play without ANY problem in Ubuntu? Excuse me for repeating the question.
[14:22] <serkan> someone I can connect to My Computer?
[14:23] <Ccdc_DuckZ> miedziak: I tried one last year which I bought from Game, it was 20 pounds I think so nothing special
[14:23] <miedziak> serkan, they told you already. In Ubuntu the ONLY RECOMMENDED way of installing software is buy using default mechanism.
[14:24] <Ccdc_DuckZ> it just worked for me on ubuntu, had to recompile the kernel on gentoo and got it working there too, no problems
[14:24] <miedziak> serkan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuSoftwareCenter
[14:24] <Ccdc_DuckZ> miedziak: it was not a turtle paradise thing, but I can't remember the brand, sorry :/
[14:25] <miedziak> Ccdc_DuckZ, that's exactly what i want to avoid. Something that just works.
[14:25] <miedziak> Thx anyway, i try later, maybe someone with experience notices.
[14:25] <miedziak> *xp in that concrete area ofc
[14:26] <Ccdc_DuckZ> miedziak: I don't understand your question then you want "a plug'n'play headset that works without problems" while also "avoiding something that works"?
[14:27] <miedziak> Ccdc_DuckZ, i was refering to gentoo bit about recompiling.
[14:28] <Ccdc_DuckZ> ah, that's the gentoo way, but I don't think it's relevant to you
[14:29] <Ccdc_DuckZ> my bad for telling you too much, I guess :p
[14:29] <miedziak> Well, i run a compile everything for yourself Slackware, but want to avoid that while giving Ubuntu a chance as a gaming platform.
[14:32] <leo__> hello,world'
[14:35] <homa> hi my friends
[14:35] <leo__> hi,long time no se
[14:35] <leo__> see
[14:35] <n0yd> is bcache supported in 15.10?
[14:36] <n0yd> ie, kernel support...
[14:38] <xebra> hi, anyone ever noticed that most fonts suck compared to some that look perfect like Dejavu and Ubuntu? With full subpixel hinting. Even Open Sans looks blurry/fuzzy, which is one of the most popular on the web. It must be due to FreeType
[14:38] <n0yd> there are tips about making the fonts look better if you google it
[14:38] <n0yd> ?Im using the droid series currently on gnome3
[14:39] <xebra> I wonder if there is a way to customize the rendering, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to give too many options. On the net they suggest infinality, but it's not officially supported in the repos and it might even be unmaintained now
[14:40] <n0yd> google it...
[14:40] <leo__> too hard to know
[14:40] <n0yd> look for a ppa?
[14:40] <arlekin> hello
[14:41] <n0yd> https://launchpad.net/~rjvbertin/+archive/ubuntu/infinaltimate
[14:41] <n0yd> xebra: ^^^
[14:41] <arlekin> how can i create swap partition on the offchance that i realised i need one to hibernate after installation ?
[14:41] <n0yd> it should work on any version
[14:41] <arlekin> i followed some solution on askubuntu
[14:42] <n0yd> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj13Y7kq97KAhUCcj4KHW45DcgQFggdMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FSwapFaq&usg=AFQjCNGhkJmYFr0OdBWEEXhBHXDZZN6OZQ&sig2=QmfenIUZR0vm4_TkMKhkjw
[14:42] <arlekin> namely i created swap partition via gparted and then added it to /etc/fstab
[14:42] <n0yd> click that
[14:42] <n0yd> read wiki
[14:42] <n0yd> arlekin: swapon?
[14:42] <leo__> how to solve the fonts problem of wine programs
[14:42] <arlekin> nydel: i did it last
[14:43] <n0yd> arlekin: then you have swap...
[14:43] <n0yd> whats the worry
[14:43] <arlekin> n0yd: when i tried to test-run it via pm-hibernate
[14:44] <bekks> arlekin: can you pastebin "free -m" please?
[14:44] <arlekin> i got error on restore
[14:44] <arlekin> bekks: sure
[14:44] <lerrrd> rd
[14:45] <arlekin> bekks: https://dpaste.de/9STV
[14:45] <pngl_> Hi! Is there a way to install open-vm-tools >= 10.0.0 on Ubuntu 15.10? VMWare Tools requires it to install the vmhgfs driver, but the latest I get from apt-get is open-vm-tools 9.10
[14:45] <bekks> arlekin: So you actually have more swap than RAM.
[14:45] <arlekin> bekks:
[14:45] <arlekin> bekks: slightly
[14:46] <arlekin> i made this swap for sole purpose of hibernations
[14:46] <n0yd> and its not mounting?
[14:46] <arlekin> so i figured it should be roughly same size as ram
[14:46] <n0yd> what does "mount" show?
[14:46] <arlekin> n0yd: just mount ?
[14:46] <n0yd> yes
[14:46] <bekks> n0yd: mount will show swap is activated.
[14:46] <yosef> hello
[14:47] <n0yd> bekks: then wtf is his problem, lol
[14:47] <yosef> Why does my second monitor crash whenever i connect it
[14:47] <n0yd> its not a swap problem then, its a hibernation problem
[14:47] <yosef> I tried googling, but I can't find a clear solution.
[14:47] <n0yd> I wasnt aware hibernation even used swap
[14:47] <arlekin> bekks: well actually output of mount doesn't even hint at swap
[14:49] <arlekin> bekks: so do you have any idea ?
[14:50] <n0yd> arlekin: so your fstab is wrong
[14:50] <n0yd> does mtab show it?
[14:50] <n0yd> just use gparted and recreate it to be sure
[14:51] <n0yd> then use swapon
[14:51] <n0yd> add it to fstab and type sudo mount
[14:51] <n0yd> and it will read fstab and mount anything not mounted
[14:51] <n0yd> So, can anyone verify support of bache in 15.10?
[14:51] <n0yd> :)
[14:53] <ikonia> what do you mean verify support
[14:53] <ikonia> if there is a package for it - it's supported,
[14:53] <bekks> arlekin: Whats the actual issue? You are using more swap than ram.
[14:53] <ikonia> the repo will dictate what level of support it gets
[14:53] <OerHeks> n0yd, bcache?
[14:54] <ikonia> disk caching system
[14:54] <n0yd> OerHeks: bcachefs
[14:54] <arlekin> n0yd: i did just that except for the fact i did swapon last
[14:54] <ikonia> what's the actual question though ?
[14:54] <n0yd> Its like btrfs and zfs
[14:54] <n0yd> ikonia: support in the kernel
[14:54] <n0yd> or even the mainline kernel from ppa
[14:54] <n0yd> arlekin: so what does mtab show now?
[14:54] <ikonia> there should be a module for it
[14:55] <ikonia> modprobe it
[14:55] <n0yd> k
[14:55] <OerHeks> bcachefs never heard of, bcache does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Bcache
[14:55] <n0yd> ikonia: ok, i checked, there is a module
[14:55] <n0yd> OerHeks: fs stands for filesystem
[14:55] <ikonia> there you go then
[14:55] <n0yd> bcache *is* is a fs
[14:56] <bekks> thats why it is named bcachefs :)
[14:56] <n0yd> tell that to the wiki page :P
[14:56] <OerHeks> nope, not once mentioned on that page, but oke, have fun
[14:57] <arlekin> btw can swap be on logical partition ? (i see no reason why not)
[14:57] <n0yd> now i need to copy my ext4 partition to my bcachefs partition, gonna take "forever"
[14:57] <n0yd> arlekin: yes
[14:58] <n0yd> ikonia: what do you think would be the fastest way to copy my data from ext4 part to bcachefs part?
[14:58] <n0yd> dd? rsync?
[15:00] <arlekin> n0yd: i did everything as you suggested - still no swap in mount output
[15:01] <n0yd> ikonia: im not so sure it is support, the module bcache might be for "bcache" the ssd bcache thing
[15:01] <dino> yess
[15:02] <n0yd> arlekin: hmm, i just realized mine doesnt show either
[15:02] <n0yd> even though i created it during install
[15:02] <fathom> Hey, anyone use KDE here or is it a faux pas to ask?
[15:03] <arlekin> n0yd: so its not a factor then i guess
[15:03] <arlekin> i'll try hibernating again
[15:03] <nacc> n0yd: arlekin: try swapon --show
[15:03] <nacc> to see swap spaces
[15:03] <n0yd> i did
[15:03] <n0yd> arlekin: oh and hibernation works fine for me
[15:03] <arlekin> unrecognized option --show
[15:04] <n0yd> egverytime i close my lid I have it set to hibernate
[15:04] <n0yd> so swap shouldnt be a factor
[15:04] <n0yd> it doesnt use swap, it uses your normal data partition and makes a image file of some sort I believe
[15:04] <arlekin> though with --summary i got my partition
[15:04] <n0yd> not sure about normal suspend
[15:04] <n0yd> summary shows the swap?
[15:05] <arlekin> n0yd: from what i read it acutally needs partition and doesn't work with swapwfile
[15:05] <arlekin> yup
[15:05] <arlekin> i'll ty now
[15:05] <n0yd> ya so you have no need for swap
[15:05] <arlekin> *try
[15:07] <n0yd> hmm, does gparted clone partitons? (different filesystems though)
[15:07] <n0yd> i see something mentioned in wiki, but not sure about different fs
[15:09] <hook> has anyone successfully installed openssh-server on 14.04 desktop on a preseed.cfg install?
[15:11] <manman> So I accidentally removed the admin account I set up from sudo. I have a root account that has been set up with a password but I can't find a way to switch to it to change the password back.
[15:12] <manman> sudo -i -u root asks for sudo password of the current account
[15:12] <manman> Is there anything I can do?
[15:12] <ikonia> manman: you have a root account and you know the password ?
[15:12] <manman> yes
[15:12] <ikonia> then just "su - "
[15:12] <ikonia> put the root password in, and you are root
[15:13] <ikonia> you can then fix your problems
[15:13] <yharrow> how do you use 2 screens in Ubuntu?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> yharrow: xrandr
[15:13] <manman> ikonia: su - gives "authentication failure" does that mean the password I have is wrong?
[15:13] <yharrow> so i have to download it?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | yharrow
[15:13] <bekks> manman: Yes.
[15:14] <manman> bekks: ok thanks t_t
[15:14] <yharrow> my distribution doesnt have the package xrandr
[15:14] <ikonia> manman: it would see so
[15:14] <bekks> yharrow: So what is your distribution?
[15:14] <yharrow> ubuntu 15.10
[15:14] <yharrow> i tried sudo apt-get install xrandr
[15:14] <yharrow> but it didnt work
[15:15] <yharrow> plugging in my screen makes my whole desktop crash
[15:15] <bazhang> arandr is the gui yharrow
[15:15] <bazhang> !info arandr
[15:15] <yharrow> i cant plug in my screen though
[15:16] <yharrow> it crashes the whole desktop
[15:16] <yharrow> so how do i configure it
[15:16] <bazhang> yharrow, hot plugging?
[15:16] <yharrow> bazhang, no i boot up into ubuntu with it plugged in
[15:16] <yharrow> and when i try to log in it crashes
[15:16] <yharrow> until i remove the screen
[15:17] <bazhang> yharrow, thats a serious video card issue then, or the cabling
[15:17] <yharrow> it worked fine before
[15:17] <homa> i comeback my friends
[15:17] <yharrow> then after one update it just stoped working
[15:17] <yharrow> bazhang, so my computer is broken?
[15:18] <bazhang> yharrow, dont use punctuation as enter, it's impossible to follow
[15:18] <bazhang> yharrow, what exactly was this 'one update'
[15:18] <yharrow> bazhang, I don't remember. I just know one day it stopped working
[15:18] <Pratik_Patel> hi, when I do sudo pip install numpy --upgrade It is installing numpy1.10 but I want 1.9 or more
[15:19] <yharrow> bazhang, since xrandr is a blackbox to me I can't even begin to trouble shoot it without spending hours reading manuals
[15:19] <yharrow> bazhang, I thought maybe someone encountered the problem before
[15:19] <bazhang> yharrow, how long ago was this 'working fine' status
[15:20] <yharrow> bazhang, 2 months ago I think
[15:20] <yharrow> bazhang, it could have been something I installed maye
[15:20] <tromboloide> star war
[15:21] <tromboloide> ciao
[15:21] <bazhang> yharrow, no one suggested you spend hours and hours reading about xrandr, I just pointed out the gui for it: arandr
[15:21] <Pratik_Patel> hi, when I do sudo pip install numpy --upgrade It is installing numpy1.10 but I want 1.9 or more. can someone please help
[15:21] <yharrow> bazhang, I appreciate that, but arandr has no options
[15:21] <yharrow> its just a box with witht he ability to load files
[15:22] <serkan> Hello
[15:22] <serkan> ubuntu How do I uninstall the program?
[15:22] <bekks> serkan: which program?
[15:22] <hook> @yharrow literally just plugged my second monitor in for the first time, and ubuntu 12.04 picked it up
[15:22] <yharrow> serkan, use sudo apt-get remove program-name or use the software center
[15:23] <yharrow> hook, yeah it worked fine for a while then one day it just stoped
[15:23] <hook> good to know, I look forward to having that happen to me tomorrow then :)
[15:23] <yharrow> hook, I have no idea how to even begin to understand what is causing the crash
[15:23] <yharrow> lol
[15:24] <Behi> hi all
[15:24] <Behi> where's the device manager in 15.10
[15:24] <serkan> So how to remove the program Teamspeak 3
[15:24] <Behi> ?
[15:24] <yharrow> serkan, how did you install it?
[15:25] <lumarist> how to start geoip
[15:25] <lumarist> after installing it geoip cmd does nothing really
[15:25] <serkan> uploaded to the computer I opened with wine, but it didn't work it gave the error
[15:25] <yharrow> so i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[15:25] <yharrow> to get my monitor to work?
[15:26] <lumarist> yharrow, tell me how to start geoip?
[15:26] <yharrow> lumarist, i can help u google
[15:27] <serkan> yharrow, uploaded to the computer I opened with wine, but it didn't work it gave the error
[15:27] <yharrow> lumarist, maybe this will work https://www.howtoforge.com/using-geoip-with-nginx-on-ubuntu-12.04
[15:27] <yharrow> lumarist, I never used geoip before
[15:28] <yharrow> serkan, if you installed it with wine you need to use the wine uninstall
[15:28] <yharrow> Uninstall Wine Software app
[15:28] <Patat> hello?
[15:29] <Patat> join python
[15:31] <ulkesh> I'm trying to install epson-inkjet-printer-escpr on Wily and getting this:  Package 'epson-inkjet-printer-escpr' has no installation candidate (I'm fully up to date)...anyone have any idea how I can get this package installed?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> ulkesh: try apt-cache search epson from terminal, maybe type in package?
[15:32] <ulkesh> well it shows "printer-driver-escpr" which i have installed, but the thing won't print a test page after adding (i loathe printers :) )
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> ulkesh: some printers might need a specific driver download, did you check epson website?
[15:34] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: of course, and they have only windows drivers
[15:34] <Quatroking> what's some good software for widgets on my desktop, kinda like Rainmeter?
[15:34] <Pratik_Patel> I am trying to update numpy using sudo pip install numpy --upgrade but it is still downloading the old version(1.10) how can i update?
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: conky
[15:34] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: nevermind, there's a dropdown for OS i didn't see, trying that now
[15:35] <Quatroking> that looks fancy, lotuspsychje
[15:35] <Quatroking> I'll look into it, thanks
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: welcome :p
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: there some nice indicators available for the gnome panel too if you like, apt-cache search indicator
[15:36] <Pici> Pratik_Patel: 1) never use sudo pip, ever. 2) If you need a newer version of numpy than the one provided by Ubuntu, use a virtualenv.  If you need help with that, join us in #python
[15:36] <Quatroking> I use xfce, but thanks
[15:37] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: wonderful, the specific driver (.deb) from epson requires LSB installed, but it won't install (unmet dependencies/etc)
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> ulkesh: does the driver have ppa included, or did you add ppa's yourself before?
[15:37] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: well an apt-get -f install fixed that...trying now
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:38] <serkan> could you throw the code for uninstalling the program?
[15:38] <Flanders> #xubuntu isn’t active, so: I get a segmentation fault (core dumped) when trying to run software-center or synaptic.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> serkan: sudo apt-get purge your-package-name
[15:38] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: hooray, it's printing :) thanks a bunch for the simple pointers (feel kinda dumb now, haha :) )
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: can you try to create a new user and try software from there?
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> ulkesh: can you feedback wich driver version for wich printer you get?
[15:39] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: This is a fresh install. I suppose I can try.
[15:40] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: (i assume you mean feedback on here)... I got it from this location and it's for the Epson WF-3640: http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=43353&DSCCHK=9f26e5cbd41612f9e38f91537c63c82d18c401e9
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: maybe tail -f /var/log/syslog while you open software might spit other errors?
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ulkesh: thank you!
[15:41] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: Err, clicking on the thing for managing new users doesn’t do anything. What is the cli thing for that?
[15:41] <serkan> write the name of the program "Teamspeak 3 Client" how to do this in code so I'll remove
[15:41] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: funny, the test page printed fine, but now a pdf i'm trying to print isn't doing so...really hate printers...haha
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> serkan: how about you uninstall it from software center might be more easy for you?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: hmm, sounds like much troubles for a fresh install...you got right graphics drivers installed?
[15:42] <debug0x1> Quick question, i would like to know if there is a way of using the command "openvpn --config vpnfilename"
[15:42] <serkan> the name of the program I'm writing, but it says could not be found
[15:42] <debug0x1> and have a browser that is not using openvpn
[15:42] <ulkesh> lotuspsychje: well i re-added the printer again and it found the epson lsb driver this time so maybe that's what did it (got the pdf to print)...oh well, here's hoping it lasts :) thanks again
[15:42] <debug0x1> Is that possible?
[15:43] <Flanders> Wow… everything is segfaulting, I think, looking at that syslog file.
[15:43] <Flanders> Mousepad too.
[15:43] <akkad> are your mousepad drivers up to date?
[15:44] <serkan> the name of the program I'm writing, but it says could not be found
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: maybe you should take a look at your full syslog and dmesg..doesnt sound to good
[15:46] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: the file loads properly in Pluma, which I just installed. Ctrl-f software center seems to point to errors related to libc-2.21.so
[15:46] <Flanders> Mousepad too mentions that libc thing
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: can you check with grafix chipset + driver version
[15:48] <Flanders> It’s probably that. The first thing I did was installing Catalyst thingamjig.
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: radeon not working by default?
[15:49] <Guest21900> how to open deep web for ubuntu
[15:49] <Flanders> I did what I vaguely recall doing on Linux Mint. Getting their .debs from the AMD website.
[15:49] <Flanders> And installing those together, as some article said.
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: better test default drivers ubuntu choose first
[15:49] <Flanders> Since this is a fresh reinstall, reinstalling is no issue. So should I just use the FGRLX thingies that come with Xubuntu?
[15:50] <anonymous287> hello every body, how are you today?
[15:50] <Flanders> Before installing the drivers, or somewhere in between, I had the software-center working.
[15:50] <Flanders> But I do need the proprietary drivers for playing video games.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: try your additional drivers section mate
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: lets test if you get those segaults there first
[15:51] <homa> good bye my friends
[15:51] <Flanders> That’s not opening either, the settings thing for that.
[15:52] <Flanders> I suppose I will simply reinstall.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: ouch...how about some recoverymode fix broken packages
[15:52] <Flanders> No big deal. But I do want to make sure: what drivers should I get.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Flanders
[15:52] <Flanders> ubottu: It manages to boot normally.
[15:52] <Flanders> Ah
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: yes but in recoverymode you can revert to fix broken packages
[15:53] <Flanders> Anyway, I will reinstall. This is an install I did today.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:53] <Flanders> I just want to be sure what drivers to get, or how to install them?
[15:53] <geek876> Hi all, can anyone help me with ufw please ?
[15:53] <Flanders> Any idea about that?
[15:53] <Flanders> I have an old Radeon HD 5700 thing
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: radeon drivers should load by default
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: dont forget to install ubuntu with cable/wifi and updates on during setup
[15:54] <Flanders> But isn’t that the open source thing? In Mint that was unable to run any 3D game
[15:54] <geek876> We are creating a NAT box. I create rules via iptables, do iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4. All works fine until I reboot. After reboot, i can see via iptables -t nat -L that the NAT rule is there but it won't NAT unless I reload ufw .
[15:54] <Flanders> Only when I got the AMD website drivers, I was able to run most games.
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: lets start from the beginning mate, and see if your segfaults dissapear first
[15:55] <Flanders> I did not have those when I installed, since I ran the software center then.
[15:55] <chetan> hi
[15:57] <chetan> I am installing ubuntu on my mac by partitioning . After following the instructions and executing this command "sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/diskN bs=1m",terminal is shwoing no output
[15:57] <chetan> anyy help?
[15:58] <Flanders> Ok, booting the liveUSB now.
[15:59] <chetan> So do i need to wait for it?
[15:59] <arktos75> chetan it would take some time to dd the Image.... so its normal for the Terminal not showing something until it finished.
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> chetan: maybe the 'time' command could help you?
[16:00] <tgm4883> chetan: Check out the second answer here and it will show you the progress of dd http://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd
[16:00] <sruli> where do i find a list of icon names i can use for launchers
[16:02] <bazhang> !15.10
[16:02] <chetan> Thanks guyz! That helped meeee.. Also i have installed homebrew before.. and i have heard sudo commands and homebrew are not favourable to each other... is it so? Do i need to uninstall it?
[16:03] <bazhang> what is homebrew chetan is that an ubuntu product
[16:03] <anonymous287> guys , how to set my ip address static?
[16:03] <chetan> no thats a package manager in mac
[16:03] <anonymous287> i followed this : http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-the-proper-way/
[16:04] <anonymous287> but after rebooting i didn t have access to the web
[16:04] <bazhang> chetan, thats mac, ask in a mac channel about it
[16:06] <anonymous287> no one to help me?
[16:06] <anonymous287> i m sad
[16:06] <anonymous287> :(
[16:06] <arktos75> https://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[16:06] <jnoob22> i can feel your sadness anonymous287
[16:06] <anonymous287> thank you, i ll try this
[16:07] <Flanders> I probably should upgrade my GPU, methinks
[16:07] <chetan> OK THANKS GUYZZZZZ
[16:09] <geek876> hi, if i use iptables-save, would ufw load after iptables or before ? at the moment it is loading afterwards i think.
[16:14] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: Right, reboot after install finished. Software center works, as before. It prompts me to update some stuff, which I am doing now.
[16:14] <Flanders> What after that?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: well i would like to see what sudo lshw -C video outputs..can you pastebin after
[16:16] <Flanders> Ok, but I’ll wait till the updates are finished and it has rebooted. (it asked to reboot last time as well)
[16:18] <tMH> any gurus online? I need (as it seems) little help. can't figure out how to fix one thing.
[16:18] <tMH> I have DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf , in /etc/networks/interfaces - everywhere, yet resolve works fine when I use host or nslookup
[16:19] <tMH> but when I do 'w' to see who is logged on - all hosts are unresolved, only IPs are shown..
[16:19] <tMH> please tell me, what should I do to fix this strange thingie?
[16:19] <tMH> when I use "host google.com" or "nslookup yahoo.com", I mean.
[16:20] <sruli> i made a shortcut to exec script "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=Rub -e "bash -c 'sudo /path/to/script -d;$SHELL'" it works fine, what do i need add to the command so the terminal window closes after it finishes executing?
[16:26] <anonymous> how learn hack
[16:28] <anonymous287> Guest41063  join #hackers
[16:28] <maskorx> can anybody help me out, I got an question?
[16:28] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: pastebin.com/aLubuHVm
[16:28] <tMH> any ubuntu gurus here?:/
[16:28] <Flanders> Software center is still working, have not touched the drivers yet
[16:29] <maskorx> I have an AQ E4.5 so far I have recieved every update exactly on the day of the release or the next day, but I still did not recieve my OTA-9 update
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: ok thats what i though, radeon driver= active by default
[16:29] <Flanders> Should I simply try a game and see if it works?
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> maskorx: #ubuntu-touch please
[16:30] <maskorx> what? I dont know how to use this stuff, first time
[16:30] <JZA> hi is there a package that will audit your packages installed on your debian distro and maybe have stats on which package is the most used?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> maskorx: type /join #ubuntu-touch
[16:30] <maskorx> ty very much!
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: i didnt say, radeon will be best driver for gaming right, but at least it proves to be not segfaulting anymore now
[16:31] <teward> JZA: this isn't #debian
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: but yes, you can try a game
[16:32] <Flanders> Worst case scenario I’ll postpone gaming until I get an Nvidia gpu, I suppose
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: did you run games smoothly ever before on that card?
[16:33] <JZA> teward: ok is there one for ubuntu?
[16:35] <Flanders> lotuspsychje: On Mint, after installing the proprietary drivers, most older games functioned well enough. Crusader Kings 2, etc.
[16:35] <Flanders> Performance was getting worse, though.
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> Flanders: can you tell me what other drivers show in the additional drivers section?
[16:38] <pngl> Could someone help me with an Ubuntu 15.10 guest under vmware? I cannot make shared folders work!
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> pngl: you could try #vmware mate
[16:40] <guest> hi pngl
[16:40] <guest> pngl: I set my shared foler up like this http://i.imgur.com/DrBG6JL.png
[16:40] <guest> pngl: and then I mount it with this: sudo mount -t vboxsf rory ~/host
[16:40] <guest> pngl: where "rory" is the name of the share, and ~/host is the place to mount it
[16:41] <EriC^^> isn't that for vbox?
[16:41] <guest> pngl: apologies I misread. That's for vbox
[16:41]  * guest goes back to lurking
[16:41] <pngl> lotuspsychje: thanks, I have been trying :|
[16:41] <pngl> guest: no worries
[16:47] <pngl> My issue is that shared folders don't work with the packaged open-vm-tools. If I replace it with the proprietary VMWare Tools, I get shared folders but an 800x600 resolution and broken copy&paste.
[16:47] <leonardo_> hello everyone
[16:51] <SweetHeart> hello all
[16:51] <SweetHeart> I have anissue with my wifi adapter I just bougth
[16:52] <SweetHeart> any one can help me
[16:52] <SweetHeart> hello all
[16:52] <SweetHeart> any one can help me
[16:53] <SweetHeart> I have anissue with my wifi adapter I just bougth
[16:55] <bazhang> !wifi | SweetHeart have a read first
[17:03] <wgm9212> Hello. I'm trying to replace the first column of this file. I'd like to replace it with auto increment values starting with 1. Is this possible? Here's the file http://pastie.org/10708907
[17:04] <SweetHeart> the link I got is not helping
[17:04] <bazhang> !details | SweetHeart
[17:05] <wgm9212> http://pastie.org/10708910
[17:06] <SweetHeart> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2308784&highlight=rt2870
[17:07] <bazhang> SweetHeart, tell the channel exact details, not just a forum link
[17:08] <calimero_82> hi guys
[17:08] <SweetHeart> I have an issue with my wifi adapter I just bougth
[17:09] <bekks> SweetHeart: And which issue is it?
[17:09] <calimero_82> i've controlled my temperature, is very high :asus-isa-0000Adapter: ISA adapter cpu_fan:     2700 RPM temp1:       +6280.0°C
[17:10] <calimero_82> what should i do?
[17:10] <SweetHeart> I don't know how to download the driver
[17:10] <SweetHeart> my adapter come with a cd
[17:10] <bazhang> SweetHeart, what version of ubuntu, what chipset for the wifi
[17:11] <SweetHeart> Ubuntu 15.10
[17:11] <bazhang> SweetHeart, wifi is usb or pci
[17:11] <SweetHeart> usb
[17:12] <bazhang> so tell us the exact chipset for that usb wifi SweetHeart
[17:12] <SweetHeart> how I do that
[17:14] <SweetHeart> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
[17:15] <chetan> Hi ! I am installing ubuntu on my mac with usb stick. When i install it, it shows no operating system detected while i have my mac osx installed on it
[17:16] <calimero_82> any idea guys?
[17:18] <chetan> Any help guyzzzzz?
[17:19] <chetan> Helloo?
[17:19] <guest> chetan: the more you do that, the less likely it is people will help...
[17:20] <guest> chetan: I don't know about OSX but on Windows, Ubuntu can sometimes fail to see the OS during installation if Windows was not shut down cleanly
[17:20] <SweetHeart> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter any help I couldn't download the driver
[17:20] <tMH> Hello ?
[17:20] <ioria> SweetHeart, have you seen this ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-148f7601-wifi-adapter-installation    ... at the end
[17:21] <chetan> Thanks Guest ! So you suggest again shutting it down and trying again?
[17:22] <tMH> can someone answer this question?: http://fpaste.org/318522/46065121/
[17:24] <guest> chetan: I would suggest rebooting into OSX, and shutting the computer down cleanly
[17:24] <guest> chetan: I can't advise on whether dual-booting with OSX even works. I did find this blog post http://tech-devnet.blogspot.de/2012/05/running-ubuntu-1204-on-mac.html
[17:28] <BluesKaj> tMH,  edit this file, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf, place the dns nameservers here, and ignore the warning,. /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[17:29] <miedziak> Can anyone recommend USB headset w/microphone that was just plug'n'play without ANY problem in Ubuntu? Excuse me for repeating the question, wont spam it too often.
[17:29] <tMH> nameserver 8.8.4.4
[17:29] <tMH> nameserver 4.2.2.2
[17:29] <tMH> nameserver 2001:4860:4860::8888
[17:29] <tMH> heck
[17:29] <ferr> I'm running ruby on rails server on ubuntu with Puma and Nginx, however, most of my memory seems to be in use, but I only notice 7% of memory used by web servers
[17:29] <bazhang> !hcl | miedziak and ##hardware
[17:29] <ferr> Any advices how to identify the issue with memory?
[17:30] <headpool182> anyone here have experience with getting AMD R9 380/285 or Fury/FuryX/Nano GPU's working well on ubuntu?
[17:31] <bazhang> ferr #ubuntu-server and a rails channel? like #ruby
[17:31] <headpool182> My understanding is there is some switches that need to be enabled in the kernel and bootloader
[17:31] <headpool182> but i can't seem to find a guide on how to do it
[17:31] <miedziak> bazhang, not detailed enough, complete devices without accesories. Thx anyway.
[17:31] <bazhang> headpool182, the new amdgpu?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> headpool182: there's a nice #gamingonlinux channel, those guys might also have hints
[17:32] <headpool182> yeah bazhang
[17:32] <headpool182> gamingonlinux might be the channel i need
[17:32] <miedziak> lotuspsychje, that can help me actually, thx. ; ]
[17:32] <bazhang> miedziak, try the hardware and offtopic channels then
[17:32] <bazhang> !find amdgpu
[17:32] <bazhang> see above headpool182 ^
[17:33] <above> ?
[17:34] <bazhang> xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu headpool182
[17:35] <headpool182> it's not an issue of the driver missing. The driver is built into the kernel since 4.2. The issue is that AMD powerplay doesn't seem to be enabled. Games run, but they run like crap:P
[17:36] <headpool182> and i haven't been able to actually enable it. The guides i've seen regarding it are "you have to enable it" with no instructions, and this is something i've never had to do before
[17:37] <bazhang> steam games? or what
[17:37] <afrokarlsson> nano robots maybe soon travels in human body. Maybe is possible even inner body nano hydro powerplants
[17:37] <headpool182> steam games yeah
[17:37] <bazhang> afrokarlsson, thats so offtopic here
[17:38] <bazhang> tyr #ubuntu-steam then
[17:38] <bazhang> and try
[17:38] <Flanders> flanders
[17:38] <Flanders> err
[17:39] <Flanders> Sorry
[17:39] <Pici> thats you
[17:39] <unicron> today's annoyance: automatic security updates includes new kernels, /boot is tiny and fills up, new kernel is only partly installed but grub is updated to point to it anyway, boot fails, need to reboot and rm shit in /boot, then touch the same filenames so apt-get can remove them
[17:39] <Flanders> I was trying to ctrl-f for mentions, but this app doesn’t support it
[17:40] <afrokarlsson> so if bloood donors give blood is possible to get mayby some nanonuclear plants
[17:41] <bazhang> !ot | afrokarlsson
[17:41] <Pici> afrokarlsson: This channel is for Ubuntu support, if you want to talk about other stuff, theres #ubuntu-offtopic, but be warned, they may not tolerate such ridiculousness.
[17:44] <afrokarlsson> mayby ubuntu is in future nanorobots operating system
[17:44] <shlant> hi all! If I want to be able to send email notifications for cron, what do you think is the easiest to setup and run? postfix? sSMTP?
[17:46] <Flanders> Anyway, no idea what to do with drivers… should I risk proprietary again?
[17:49] <worstadmin> How can I install the latest version of 3.16 kernel on ubuntu 14.04 without upgrading to linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-vivid
[17:51] <worstadmin> Im currently on Version: 3.16.0.60.51
[17:51] <worstadmin> I'd like to go to 3.16.`
[17:51] <worstadmin> *3.16.1
[17:54] <haasn> I was going through a standard ubuntu server installation and it asked me what drive I wanted to install grub on. I forgot to check, so I backed out of the prompt, went into a shell and inspected the situation. Then I pressed on “install grub” again and it just sent me back to the same menu over and over again. So I went into a shell, chrooted to /target and ran grub-install root=/ /dev/sde manually. Then
[17:54] <haasn> I exited the shell and went on with “proceed without installing bootloader”, but then it got stuck on “finish the installation” (again it just sent me back to the same screen)
[17:54] <haasn> So I decided to reboot the system and now I'm stuck on grub rescue - since grub is installed, the generated config is just missing
[17:54] <haasn> The “continue without installation” prompt did mention something about how to manually load the right kernel but I didn't write it down
[17:54] <ioria> !info linux-generic-lts-utopic trusty   | worstadmin
[17:54] <haasn> Short of a fresh reinstall how do I proceed from here?
[17:55] <haasn> And more importantly, why did the grub installer just “die” after I exited out of it once and started it again?
[17:55] <haasn> 15.10 incidentally
[17:55] <ioria> worstadmin, i think you have  the latest
[17:56] <OerHeks> worstadmin, all i find is 3.16.1 for utopic, not trusty on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:56] <OerHeks> worstadmin, else you get http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16.7-ckt23-trusty/
[17:57] <Pici> worstadmin: is there a reason you need 3.16.1 over 3.16.0?
[17:58] <haasn> I think I can recover by passing root=/dev/vg0/root on the kernel
[17:59] <sphrases> hey guys, can someone of you help me?
[17:59] <haasn> Assuming I reconfigure grub properly, is there anything else that would be missing from my installation due to the installer errors?
[17:59] <artyx> .,,
[17:59] <sphrases> when I add a launcher in the desktop panel and try to assign an application to it it crashes the panel
[18:00] <artyx> Does anyone here have experience integrating SELINUX with ubuntu (as opposed to apparmor)
[18:00] <Desu> artyx: grs/pax is what you should be using
[18:00] <artyx> I installed selinux .. but semanage fcontext -l shows nothing .. ls -Z shows contexts, and /etc/selinux/ubuntu/files dir has contexts in it, .. so i THINK i can safely assume that its running
[18:01] <artyx> check-selinux-installation does not report any errors at this time
[18:05] <chetan> HI! I am installing ubuntu on my mac. During the instalton process it says no other operating system detected rather than install along side with mac osx.How to fix this?
[18:06] <nicomachus> !mac | chetan have you looked through this?
[18:07] <haidar_> Hello,, How can I create a cisco router on ubuntu server any Idea??
[18:09] <chetan> Ubottu Yes i have gone through that
[18:10] <genii> haidar_: You want to make a virtual router to train for Cisco certification, or you just want to make the server into a router?
[18:11] <haidar_> genni, yes I would like to create a virtual router with cisco configration on ubuntu server
[18:12] <genii> !info dynagen
[18:14] <genii> haidar_: There's also dynamips which does other Cisco routers
[18:16] <haidar_> genii,how can I create it
[18:17] <chetan> Anyone knows the same issue? -HI! I am installing ubuntu on my mac. During the instalton process it says no other operating system detected rather than install along side with mac osx.How to fix this
[18:17] <genii> haidar_: Those two packages are in the repositories, you can install them from the software center. As for configuring and running them, consult their documentation
[18:18] <haidar_> genii, thanks alot I will do that
[18:22] <HamRadio> Is it worth upgrading from 14.04 to (When it comes out) 16.04
[18:22] <nicomachus> HamRadio: yes.
[18:22] <HamRadio> nicomachus, why? why not wait till 18.04?
[18:22] <OerHeks> you better wait for 20.04 then :-D
[18:23] <HamRadio> lol
[18:23] <nicomachus> HamRadio: I mean, really it's up to you. 14.04 will have support until April of 2019.
[18:23] <HamRadio> I don't think 16.04 will be supported when 20.04 comes out, will it?
[18:23] <HamRadio> Hmmmm
[18:23] <nicomachus> but 16.04 will be just as stable, and will have new features.
[18:23] <HamRadio> ok
[18:23] <nikitha> hi, wish to know what would be the impact of jvm opted out from future browsers ?
[18:23] <nicomachus> HamRadio: 16.04 will go out of support in April of 2021
[18:23] <OerHeks> what name will it be, xenial, y, z, a, b ?
[18:24] <nicomachus> I think the plan is to start back at a after z...?
[18:24] <HamRadio> nicomachus, that's what I was thinking, 16.04 will have systemd, and lots of new stuff compared to 14.04
[18:25] <nikitha> so, whatever developed portals based on jvm dependencies ...what will happen to them ?
[18:26] <OerHeks> nikitha, likely they die.
[18:27] <nikitha> OerHeks: any alternative survival , work around ..???
[18:28] <OerHeks> nikitha, not that i know of.
[18:28] <OerHeks> maybe some community effort will bring a workaround.
[18:31] <dewald_> hi
[18:32] <mark009> hello
[18:34] <Kireji> does using command line unzip on zip attachements from strangers' email still represent a virus threat?
[18:34] <Kireji> so curious what strangers keep sending me
[18:34] <ikonia> Kireji: depends what they are
[18:34] <ikonia> don't be
[18:34] <ikonia> just delete it and move on
[18:36] <Kireji> :)
[18:43] <fathom_> Hello, I have an ongoing problem with Ubuntu. It seems that running programs like emacs and filezilla automatically boots me out of my session
[18:45] <fathom_> It is a repeatable problem. I launch a text editor, go into a php file to edit and run a filezilla client while some music plays in the background and poof, it logs me out
[18:45] <akik> fathom_: maybe a hardware problem? do you have the same problem in a live session?
[18:45] <bekks> fathom_: So start investigating the logs in /var/log/
[18:45] <OerHeks> fathom_, if this happens randomly, do a memtest86
[18:45] <pbx> fathom_, by "programs like emacs and filezilla" do you mean "emacs and filezilla" or is there some common thread i'm missing?
[18:46] <pbx> fathom_, or are you saying "when i launch filezilla i get logged out"?
[18:48] <fathom_> Yeah, sometimes setting a background image is enough to log me out
[18:48] <mattia> Hi.
[18:49] <fathom_> I have an AMD APU and a GPU and maybe that is the culprit
[18:49] <bekks> fathom_: No it isnt.
[18:49] <fathom_> AMD does not play nice with Ubuntu
[18:49] <bekks> It does.
[18:49] <bekks> Start investigating the logs in /var/log/ instead.
[18:50] <mattia> I'm currently trying to install ubuntu in an UEFI machine. I've alredy disabled fast boot and secure boot.
[18:51] <mattia> Then, what's next?
[18:51] <fathom_> bekks, what is in my error log?
[18:52] <fathom_> What is the culprit
[18:52] <fathom_> ?
[18:52] <bekks> fathom_: I dont know whats in your error log? It is your log, not mine.
[18:52] <bekks> fathom_: It is you who needs to investigate :)
[18:53] <antilogic> Hello i have one simple question about intel_pstate driver. What keeps changing max_perf_pct, if i set it to like 70 after some time it will switch back to 100
[18:54] <mattia> Anyone can help me?
[18:55] <bekks> mattia: Insert the bootable medium, boot, install Ubuntu?
[18:55] <mattia> alrihgt, but is ubuntu booting in UEFI mode?
[18:56] <mattia> And then, what about grub?
[18:56] <bekks> mattia: If you've set your computer to UEFI - sure.
[18:56] <bekks> !uefi | mattia
[18:57] <ElPasmo> Hi all, how can I find, using the terminal, where a package is installed? I'm trying to locate the files of libavformat-dev and libswscale-dev. I'm using ubuntu 15.10
[18:58] <bekks> ElPasmo: apt-file find packagename
[19:00] <ElPasmo> bekks: ty, on it :)
[19:00] <mattia> right, I see what efi is. So, All I need is matching the two operative system. Well... There's a partition named as EFI in my drive. I guess I should't touch it.
[19:01] <mattia> Thought I don't know if I need to allocate the ubuntu one after windows or before windows...
[19:02] <mattia> Does it make any difference?
[19:02] <bekks> mattia: No.
[19:03] <mattia> well. It's my first installation...
[19:04] <ElPasmo> bekks: I'm sorry but that command only points me to docs? I'm trying to locate avformat.h of libavformat-dev but that's all I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14881164/
[19:05] <Ludo38> Hi all! I have a problem with the default font in web browser. Months ago, I installed various additional fonts in my Ubuntu, and it made a conflict somewhere in the default Ubuntu font, because pages like Yahoo Mail or Twitter or most of the blogs, display a very hard-to-read font called HelveticaNeue, and for now I don't manage to remove it and get my browsers (Firefox and Chrome) displaying the correct default font...
[19:05] <bekks> ElPasmo: then those docs included in pkgname, too.
[19:05] <Ludo38> Here is a screencap of the issue visible on Firefox : http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=98766
[19:05] <bekks> ElPasmo: that command lists alls file nn all packages matching pkgname
[19:06] <ElPasmo> bekks: I'm not sure I'm understanding what you are saying... so that package only contains docs?
[19:06] <Ludo38> I've been using Ubuntu for about 8 years and it's the first time installing fonts creates a conflict like that...
[19:06] <bekks> ElPasmo: No.
[19:07] <bekks> ElPasmo: just use apt-file file pkgname | more
[19:09] <ElPasmo> bekks: got it using apt-file list, thank you a lot
[19:09] <bekks> ElPasmo: ;)
[19:11] <Jesse___> I'm having trouble getting any DE to run on my minimal Ubuntu installation (14.04). When I run startx or startxfce4 the system freezes up before opening. Here is the information from .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/5JzCkjBM
[19:12] <Jesse___> I'm pretty new to linux so I have no idea whats going on with this
[19:12] <bekks> Jesse___: Dont use startx, use a display manager like lightdm
[19:13] <Jesse___> bekks when I installed lightdm, the system just froze at boot
[19:13] <jason__> hey all, first time on IRC chat in about 20 years ....
[19:13] <bekks> Jesse___: Sounds like a graphics driver issue then.
[19:14] <Jesse___> bekks did you look at the pastebin?
[19:14] <jason__> playing with new toys, everything on Wily works with no issues whatsoever on a Winblows Toshiba Satellite
[19:14] <Jesse___> how can i get my driver info?
[19:14] <bekks> Jesse___: sudo lspci -k
[19:16] <Jesse___> bekks here is my driver info from lspci -k http://pastebin.com/kf5gsLvS
[19:18] <bekks> Jesse___: My deepest apologies, you are using one of the most bad graphics chipsets every been out there, Via Chrome. At that point, I'm out. Sorry.
[19:19] <Jesse___> bekks it's a thin client, but it has enough specs to run Win7 embedded edition
[19:20] <bekks> Jesse___: It has a Via Chrome. Throw it away as far as you can.
[19:21] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[19:21] <OerHeks> 2d should work, 3D maybe ..
[19:24] <lewelle> is the xchat found through ubuntu repositories safe to use? as in updated with safe ssl?
[19:24] <anonymous287> can you tell me how to disable ipv6 ?
[19:24] <mattia> I'm creating the partition. What mount point should I choose?
[19:25] <Zerate> anonymous287, http://askubuntu.com/questions/440649/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-14-04
[19:25] <anonymous287> thank you zerate
[19:25] <mattia> The device is /dev/sda...
[19:26] <anonymous287> racine partition ( / ) and /home (home partition)  and swap ,  and you can add usr or i don't knew what you want
[19:27] <OerHeks> !partitioning
[19:27] <mattia> nothing in the link.
[19:28] <wyatt_earp> is there a way in nfs to get the root user mapped to anon uid/gid when using all_squash?
[19:28] <bekks> mattia: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/index.html
[19:29] <OerHeks> noted, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes or https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/index.html
[19:32] <django_> hey all
[19:32] <django_> what do you think about getting a used macbook pro from 2011 and installing ubuntu on it
[19:33] <Zerate> django_, do it
[19:33] <lotus|xenial4-4> !mac | django_
[19:33] <django_> hmm
[19:33] <django_> lol
[19:33] <k1l> django_: i would suggest to look in the ubuntu wiki what is known to work and what workarounds you need to do
[19:33] <django_> look at this: http://www.macofalltrades.com/iMac-21-5-inch-3-06GHz-C2D-Late-2009-p/im-215-306-l09s.htm
[19:33] <Zerate> django_, or a thinkpad
[19:34] <django_> Zerate, a used thinkpad?
[19:34] <django_> IBM or lenovo?
[19:35] <Zerate> django_, yeah, IBM, me and everybody I work with dose that, theyer cheap ($200) and they have awsome keybords
[19:35] <mattia> ok. Hope it works.
[19:35] <django_> Zerate, but what if i want to put good hardware in it?
[19:35] <django_> those dont have much ram
[19:36] <Zerate> django_, I have a X200 with 8gb of ram, it says lenovo but its still the IBM design and keyboard
[19:36] <mattia> Just to know, If I want to expand another patition whit an OS installed, Is there any change whit UEFI?
[19:36] <django_> Zerate, wow sick what about the processor?
[19:37] <Zerate> django_, Idk, I think its a dual core 2.7 ghzhz
[19:37] <django_> i meant how do you setup the laptop heh ze
[19:37] <django_> Zerate, *
[19:38] <k1l> django_: insert the ubuntu-usb and install it.
[19:38] <mattia> now there's the trial by fire...
[19:38] <django_> I meant updating hardware inside an IBM Thinkpad
[19:39] <Zerate> django_, hahah, what dose * mean?
[19:39] <django_> it means i misstyped haaha
[19:39] <k1l> django_: you cant update the cpu or such. you can just excahnge hdd to a ssd. or increase the ram size.
[19:39] <django_> Zerate, so what you did was buy something like this: http://www.amazon.com/IBM-ThinkPad-T60-Computer-Adapter/dp/B001QGKS3G/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1454614750&sr=8-5&keywords=IBM+Thinkpad and get new hardware?
[19:40] <k1l> django_: he said he uses a x200
[19:40] <Zerate> django_, I just got it off of craigslist, i think it was 250$
[19:40] <k1l> django_: but to make it short: if you buy hardware most linux devs use the chances are very high to have a fully running system where all itches are amde work
[19:41] <django_> ahhh
[19:41] <django_> true
[19:41] <django_> like i dont have much $
[19:41] <django_> and eclipse runs slow on this xubuntu
[19:42] <django_> k1l, where can i find linux devs
[19:43] <Zerate> django_, what do you mean liux devs?
[19:43] <k1l> django_: that was a general statement. they will no use shiny cheap devices without decent power. look at the lenovo thinkpdas. or some are even using macbooks because the hardware is quite good
[19:44] <k1l> or dell xps
[19:44] <k1l> but that is not "i dont have money" stuff.
[19:44] <django_> right...
[19:44] <Zerate> it can be, just get it used, you dont need much power.
[19:44] <k1l> django_: but for general "what to buy" guides better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #hardware
[19:44] <Loshki> django_: it's a test. If you can't figure out how to find linux devs on your own, you're not ready to talk to them.
[19:45] <django_> Loshki, hahaha
[19:45] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[19:45] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.5.0-040500rc2-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[19:45] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity Distro: Ubuntu 15.10 wily :)
[19:46] <bekks> Dreaman: How is that relevant to us?
[19:46] <Dreaman> nothing
[19:47] <Dreaman> but work well
[19:47] <atlanti5> hi
[19:47] <atlanti5> I am having trouble starting linux
[19:47] <Dreaman> realy
[19:48] <k1l> atlanti5: what linux exactly? and what issue exactly? what error messages?
[19:48] <atlanti5> says my HDD is full, but I have checked, and it has free 112gb
[19:48] <bekks> atlanti5: So show us a "df -h" in a pastebin please.
[19:48] <atlanti5> linuxmint, sorry to barge in here, but I cannot find my way back to xchat mint
[19:48] <k1l> !mint | atlanti5
[19:49] <atlanti5> irc.spotchat.org
[19:49] <atlanti5> ok thank you
[19:50] <atlanti5> sorry to have caused you distress with my presence, didnt realize there was such a rivalry between distros
[19:50] <atlanti5> but you were helpful >(
[19:50] <Dreaman> atlanti5 why use mint
[19:50] <atlanti5> :)
[19:50] <atlanti5> why
[19:50] <Zerate> atlanti5, theres a rivalry between everything linux
[19:51] <atlanti5> coming from the windows enviroment, it seemed to be easier
[19:51] <Dreaman> atlanti5 use debian
[19:51] <skinux> What exactly is the difference between LTS versions and non-LTS versions?
[19:51] <Dreaman> 5 years
[19:51] <atlanti5> is there an xfce debian }
[19:51] <OerHeks> 5 years <> 9 months support.
[19:51] <Dreaman> i use ild laptop
[19:51] <skinux> I know LTS stands for Long-Term Support, but does that really matter for people who don't pay for support?
[19:52] <Dreaman> old
[19:52] <bekks> skinux: Yes.
[19:52] <OerHeks> skinux, support means updates
[19:52] <Zerate> skinux, its good for peopel who dont want te reinstall their os every 9 months
[19:52] <atlanti5> right now, I am using a live version of Voyager, because I cannot get mint running from the HDD
[19:53] <Zerate> skinux, like in an office
[19:53] <atlanti5> Voyager LTS x2
[19:53] <skinux> Well, I'm just about to try to re-install Ubuntu again using UNetBootin and I'm trying to figure out if I should make my USB a Trusty or Vervid installer.
[19:53] <k1l> skinux: the support time frames. and on an LTS there wont be such big changes.
[19:53] <atlanti5> it]s nice, but too much simliar to mac os
[19:53] <k1l> skinux: vivid (15.04) is dead since yesterday
[19:53] <atlanti5> in apearence
[19:53] <Zerate> atlanti5, osx kicks ass
[19:54] <k1l> atlanti5: this is #ubuntu. please keep the "other linux" chat to ##linux
[19:54] <atlanti5> my favorite distro is knoppix, but I have misplaced my disc
[19:54] <k1l> skinux: you can install 15.10. but you need to upgrade to 16.04 when that is released
[19:54] <Loshki> skinux: Although everybody really wants bleeding edge features with great stability, in practice, it's a trade-off. For the less experienced, LTS is the way to go.
[19:56] <k1l> skinux: no support means: you dont have any bugfix or (more important) security updates. so a version that is "EOL" is insecure. just see on ubuntu.com/usn how many security updates you get for free on ubuntu when its still in support.
[19:56] <lotus|xenial4-4> is there like a pastebinit, but for images too?
[19:57] <OerHeks> imgur.com
[19:57] <ioria> http://tinyurl.com/
[19:58] <lotus|xenial4-4> OerHeks: i mean like share from the pc directly
[19:58] <skinux> kil: Well, if I install 15.10 will another LTS come by the time 15.10 is unsupported?
[19:58] <Zerate> skinux, yeah
[19:59] <skinux> What is the support life-time? 6 months?
[19:59] <k1l> skinux: 9 months.
[19:59] <teward> skinux: 9 months for the non-LTS releases
[19:59] <k1l> !releases | skinux
[19:59] <skinux> Okay, then 15.10 will be fine, I'll even have a couple of months to be lazy about upgrading to Xenial
[20:00] <k1l> 3 months to be precise
[20:01] <skinux> Something I need to ask though. My system has a hidden recovery partition for Windows. If I let Ubuntu over-write MBR, I have no idea how I'll be able to use that recovery partition if needed?
[20:01] <bekks> skinux: Unless you dont delete that partition, everything will be ok.
[20:02] <skinux> So, as long as I install Ubuntu to a partition, GRUB will see the recovery partition and give me a boot option?
[20:02] <Dreaman> now
[20:02] <Dreaman> :)
[20:02] <bekks> skinux: Where else would you install ubuntu to?
[20:03] <skinux> Well, a few months ago I accidentally over-wrote my whole hard drive. Really sucked.
[20:04] <Dreaman> skinux i use dual boot win 10 and ubuntu 15.10
[20:04] <skinux> That's what I'm wanting to do. Technically, I have Ubuntu installed onto a partition, but it didnt install right, so I have no way to boot it.
[20:05] <Dreaman> i use 200 gb win and 50 gb ubuntu
[20:05] <Dreaman> swap 8 gb boot 500mb ind root
[20:05] <skinux> Something to note is that I have a UEFI system
[20:06] <Dreaman> 40
[20:06] <Dreaman> gb
[20:06] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:06] <bekks> !dualboot | skinux
[20:07] <OerHeks> or a pretty guide with pictures http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[20:07] <skinux> Well, I believe when I use UEFI boot menu, I get a GRUB console...I'd like to turn that into a Ubuntu boot menu, but haven't been able to make that work.
[20:11] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14882295/   skinux  :) my system
[20:12] <skinux> Nice, but I really don't see how that information helps me.
[20:13] <Dreaman> resize hdd
[20:14] <mattia> Hi, I'm back.
[20:15] <mattia> and the installation don't work. Now only windows starts.
[20:15] <Dreaman> realy
[20:15] <Dreaman> mattia i use new kernel 4.5 rc2
[20:15] <Dreaman> and work
[20:16] <bekks> Dreaman: How does that help him? :)
[20:16] <bekks> mattia: Can you elaborate on "dont work" please?
[20:16] <OerHeks> Dreaman, how is that helpfull, and newer kernel isn't really supported
[20:17] <mattia> I've installed ubuntu, alongside windows 8 in a UEFI machine, but now only windows starts.
[20:17] <OerHeks> anyway, rc release candidate, not stable yet
[20:17] <Dreaman> bekks learning learning and ......... work
[20:17] <mattia> And I don't know what to do..
[20:17] <Dreaman> evrithing
[20:17] <OerHeks> mattia,  pretty uefi guide with pictures http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[20:18] <bekks> mattia: Do you get an Ubuntu start menu?
[20:18] <skinux> I really don't need to reinstall the whole system, but rather to get Ubuntu that is installed to have a boot menu.
[20:18] <mattia> No.
[20:19] <bekks> mattia: When have been asked where to install grub, what was your answer?
[20:20] <mattia> there was no answer. I just made another partition, deleting the "windows recovery partition" and then I installed there.
[20:20] <Dreaman> skinux boot part
[20:20] <skinux> Will Ubuntu give an option of whether to over-write MBR or not?
[20:20] <OerHeks> skinux, gave a good url to fix the uefi thing, did you take a look at it?
[20:20] <Dreaman> is a problem
[20:21] <skinux> I didn't see a link for that
[20:21] <Dreaman> i hawe 3 parts of ubuntu swap   boot  ind root
[20:21] <Dreaman> and
[20:21] <Dreaman> root
[20:21] <OerHeks> basicly the same as win10>  http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[20:25] <Dreaman> http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/E6/1A/ff4c6d7acb2ee61a.png  skinux
[20:26] <skinux> Good tutorial. However, I wouldn't mind one that would simply let me fix GRUB on Ubuntu that is already there.
[20:26] <lauri> Hi, could anyone elaborate if http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ these kernels are somehow installable via APT as well?
[20:27] <Dreaman> my grub is 2 kernels and win 10
[20:27] <Dreaman> and work
[20:27] <OerHeks> lauri, read the manual, download the kernel and install with dpkg -i >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[20:28] <OerHeks> lauri,  but those kernels are for testing only
[20:29] <mattia> Oh, dumb me. I think that I haven't ckecked  the option to make it bootable....
[20:31] <skinux> Okay, well, my bigger question is if Ubuntu over-writes MBR, how well I ever use my hidden recovery partition?
[20:31] <tulphoon_> hello.
[20:31] <bekks> skinux: MBR isnt partition.
[20:31] <k1l> skinux: it will be put into grub
[20:32] <bekks> skinux: Grub needs to be installed into the MBR for being able to boot.
[20:32] <skinux> True, but Ubuntu does write boot loader to MBR
[20:32] <lauri> OerHeks: I specifically asked about APT, I knew that downloading .deb files and installing with dpkg was possible..
[20:32] <bekks> mattia: that option is deprecated since twi decades. Answer my question please, instead.
[20:33] <skinux> From what I've been told, Windows having MBR means I can press F8 and get to advanced boot menu where I can launch recovery. If Ubuntu over-writes MBR then there won't be any F8 menu to get to.
[20:33] <ioria> lauri, you can put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/  but never tried that , warning !!!
[20:33] <lauri> sigh -- that's not the point
[20:33] <bekks> skinux: You've learned something wrong then.
[20:33] <k1l> skinux: that is wrong.
[20:34] <skinux> So, after Ubuntu takes over MBR, if I select Windows, i'll still be able to go into F8?
[20:34] <ioria> lauri, you want resolve deps ?
[20:34] <tulphoon_> Yes you will.
[20:34] <bekks> skinux: Sure.
[20:34] <akik> skinux: as long you have the windows boot manager, you'll be able to go to the F8 menu (when it's enabled)
[20:34] <k1l> skinux: but using the windows recovery will wipe the whole drive and erase ubuntu in most times anyway.
[20:34] <mattia> bekks: Ok.
[20:34] <bekks> skinux: Because thats not a MBR function, but a Windows bootloader function.
[20:34] <skinux> Okay, and GRUB's Windows option will launch the Windows boot manager?
[20:35] <akik> skinux: yes
[20:35] <skinux> Okay.
[20:35] <skinux> I guess I'll go ahead and try installing Ubuntu 15.10, but first I need to try to create a backup DVD of my personal files.
[20:36] <lauri> ioria: I want LTS kernels from an APT repo
[20:36] <lauri> and by LTS I mean Linux Foundation LTS not Ubuntu's idea of LTS
[20:36] <k1l> lauri: 16.04 will use the LTS kernel
[20:36] <ioria> lauri, for what version ?
[20:36] <lauri> it was about time
[20:36] <lauri> I'm running 14.04 with 3.18.x now
[20:37] <k1l> lauri: and ubuntu kernels devs sponsor a lot of the LTS kernel support, you know that? or you just think ubuntu kernel devs are idiots?
[20:37] <ioria> lauri,  ok, and you want , what ?
[20:37] <lauri> LTS kernels have relatively good Btrfs support
[20:37] <OerHeks> lauri, running an other kernel than provided,might break something. just saying ..
[20:37] <lauri> I am aware of that
[20:38] <OerHeks> lauri, oke, then go for it, no apt method, just the dpkg -i way
[20:38] <lauri> I am already doing that, that's why I am asking here whether there is a proper repo with LTS kernels
[20:38] <OerHeks> nope.
[20:38] <k1l> lauri: no.
[20:39] <bekks> lauri: Ubuntu LTS kernels are in the Ubuntu repos. Other kernels arent.
[20:39] <ioria> !info linux-generic-lts-wily trusty
[20:39] <k1l> lauri: there might be 3rd party PPAs or repos but you need to look for them and decide if that is "proper" for yourself
[20:39] <Dreaman> lauri 4.5.rc 2 is good use
[20:39] <Dreaman> :P
[20:40] <Dreaman> 4.4 lts
[20:41] <mattia> There's no flag in the partition I've installed, unlike all the others.
[20:41] <k1l> mattia: ubuntu doesnt need flags. only the windows bootloader needs that flags
[20:41] <OerHeks> Dreaman, please stop giving wrong advise, that kernel is for wily
[20:41] <bekks> mattia: That flag is irrelevant for two decades.
[20:41] <mattia> ok.
[20:41] <bekks> mattia: Did you answer my question yet?
[20:43] <Dreaman> OerHeks ok boss
[20:43] <mattia> yes, previously
[20:44] <bekks> mattia: Really? So what was your answer when you ere asked where to install grub to?
[20:44] <Dreaman> OerHeks comand terminal to see my install kernels
[20:44] <Dreaman> boss
[20:45] <askhat> Hello everybody
[20:45] <Dreaman> bekks comand to see my install kernels
[20:45] <Zerate> askhat, hey
[20:45] <Dreaman> on terminal pleas
[20:45] <ioria> Dreaman, try this dpkg -l |  grep linux-image* | grep ii
[20:45] <k1l> Dreaman: stop asking people. ask the channel so people can decide if they want to help you or not.
[20:45] <askhat> Noob's question: is it possible to connect to IKEv2 through prfile.mobileconfig?
[20:46] <askhat> Like OS X/iOS does
[20:46] <worstadmin> How do I locate the kernel that corresponds to ppa 3.16.0-60.80~14.04.1hf1533043v20160201b
[20:46] <worstadmin> It's in a ticket regarding a kernel big
[20:46] <worstadmin> *bug
[20:47] <k1l> worstadmin: i would ask the user what 3rd party stuff they installed
[20:47] <walbenzi> apt-get upgrade problem, need to roll back.  The version that was installed seems to no longer be available according to `apt-cache showpkg <package-name>`
[20:47] <worstadmin> k1l: It's just a known bug that was fixed by ppa
[20:48] <worstadmin> Nothing to do with something 3rd party
[20:48] <OerHeks> not fixed by a ppa, just by updating >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2888-1/
[20:48] <flipback> hello room
[20:48] <k1l> worstadmin: that is a 3rd party kernel
[20:49] <flipback> i am a Windows user and am trying out linux
[20:49] <worstadmin>  k1l: It's just a known bug that was fixed by ppa
[20:49] <flipback> I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon
[20:49] <tulphoon_> flipback, hello :)
[20:49] <askhat> flipback good move dude
[20:50] <flipback> So far everything is working great
[20:50] <OerHeks> !mint | bad move, flipback
[20:50] <Ben64> worstadmin: you asked what kernel is "ppa 3.16...." ppa = 3rd party
[20:52] <askhat> Noob's question: is it possible to connect to IKEv2 VPN server through `profile.mobileconfig`? Like OS X does
[20:52] <flipback> Linux Mint is a community-driven Linux distribution based on Debian and Ubuntu that strives to be a "modern, elegant and comfortable operating system which is both powerful and easy to use."
[20:52] <walbenzi> I don't know how to phrase the question to get better answers from google.  I had a version of lib3curl installed, upgraded it and in troubleshooting, decided to go back.  The version that was originally installed seems to no longer be available according to `apt-cache showpkg <package-name>`
[20:52] <walbenzi> I got instructions from http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[20:52] <k1l> flipback: please use the mint channels on the other irc network to talk about mint. this is plain ubuntu support.
[20:52] <Ben64> walbenzi: you should never downgrade packages
[20:53] <Ben64> walbenzi: what are you trying to accomplish now
[20:53] <askhat> k1l flipback or say that you're using Ubuntu, nobody can feel the difference
[20:54] <ioria> walbenzi, you mean libcurl3 ?
[20:54] <flipback> I am looking to have the best linux experience possible
[20:54] <worstadmin> Okay - well the fix they made wont be submitted in the main ubuntu repo for some time
[20:54] <flipback> What do i need to install
[20:54] <flipback> ?
[20:55] <walbenzi> I have a developer who is getting an error while performing a subversion interaction related to SSL signatures.  This is new behavior since he had run an update himself on 12.04.
[20:55] <k1l> flipback: install ubuntu or one of the official flavors
[20:55] <k1l> !flavors | flipback
[20:55] <flipback> Do I need a better version of linux?
[20:55] <flipback> I am new
[20:55] <walbenzi> it is not the server, there has been no change, other svn clients are working properly, and my updated 14.04 works
[20:56] <zoonky123> hey guys
[20:56] <zoonky123> how do I change my desktop backround in Ubuntu?
[20:56] <flipback> how about this Arch linux i keep seeing?
[20:56] <walbenzi> Since he did not snapshot before the upgrade, I wanted to do the best I could going back.
[20:56] <flipback> is that any good?
[20:57] <teward> flipback: it's offtopic here
[20:57] <k1l> zoonky123: right click on the background and choose: change background image?
[20:57] <ioria> walbenzi, you mean libcurl3 ?  there is no lib3curl
[20:58] <walbenzi> I went into the aptitude log, saw what got upgraded and wanted to set the versions temporarily to what they had been to determine if it is a bug that should be submitted.
[20:58] <walbenzi> sorry, libcurl3, and it was an example.
[20:59] <ioria> walbenzi,  an example for what ?
[21:00] <jmadero> hi all - before I send a response to this email I just got. Does it make any sense that Pepper Flash would be needed to stream HTML5 content?
[21:04] <TragicM3LON> can someone help me with my ubuntu server?
[21:04] <TragicM3LON> it rebooted and keeps going into Emergency Mode?
[21:06] <TragicM3LON> says "A start job is running for dev-md0.device"?
[21:09] <jlkfdmjg> hello
[21:11] <bprompt> allo
[21:13] <Dumle29> Is it hard to moveing my entire linux install off to a seperate drive?
[21:14] <Dumle29> I have two 2TB drives in my PC, and initially I only allocated 500GB of it to my linux install to try it out, but now I want to give it a full drive
[21:14] <OerHeks> Dumle29, you can copy the whole install, but you need to edit fstab to get the new UUID, AFAIK
[21:15] <Dumle29> oh wait. I just remembered, linux actually isn't installed on any of those. it's on it's own ssd. The 500 GB is a data partition
[21:15] <Dumle29> hmm, as long as I make a new partition, and then make sure that new partition mounts on /media/data where my current partition mounts, I'd be good right?
[21:16] <Dumle29> seeing as this is just a data partition
[21:16] <jmadero> yes
[21:16] <k1l> Dumle29: why not keep ubuntu on that ssd (because its faster there) and just mount the data hdd as a data folder?
[21:17] <Dumle29> hmm, let me explain it better I did a poor job of that
[21:17] <pseudonymous> I'm trying to find a reliable way to set the gtk2 theme via the terminal and all hits using gsettings thus far have done nothing. lxappearance immediately changes things, but I need to do it from a terminal (automation reasons...)
[21:18] <Dumle29> okay, so I have the following disks: 128GB Samsung 840 pro SSD, 128GB crucial MX100, 2TB spinning disk, and a nother 2TB spinning disk
[21:18] <Dumle29> Windows is installed on the 840 pro, linux on the crucial
[21:18] <Dumle29> I'm calling the HDDs HDD1 and HDD2
[21:18] <jmadero> Dumle29: your OSs should both be on SSD
[21:19] <jmadero> no reason to split them on two separate drives
[21:19] <Dumle29> HDD1 is split into a 1.5TB and a 0.5TB partition
[21:19] <Dumle29> HDD2 is so far only used for cloud based storage
[21:19] <jmadero> put Ubuntu and Windows on that 128 gig SSD
[21:19] <Dumle29> dropbox onedrive etc
[21:19] <k1l> Dumle29: please show a "sudo parted -l" on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <Dumle29> I'm currently in windows
[21:19] <Dumle29> brb rebooting
[21:22] <Dumle29> Okay I'm now in ubuntu :)
[21:22] <deniz946> hello, i have a ubuntu server, and i have a .com domain bought. How i can make that my domain shows my /var/www folder?
[21:23] <TragicM3LON> question, how woud i go about changing the dev's on fstab?
[21:23] <Dumle29> deniz946: Where did you buy the domain?
[21:23] <MikeRL> Network Manager on 15.10 has a pretty nasty issue. It craps out half the time my laptop goes to sleep.
[21:23] <MikeRL> Is this a known bug?
[21:23] <TragicM3LON> i guess my partition is on /dev/sde not dev/sdf ?
[21:23] <deniz946> Dumle29, namecheap.com
[21:23] <pseudonymous> deniz946: that's quite the extensive question. What you want is a guide. Have you considered looking at Digital Ocean's guides ? Just search "Digital Ocean ubuntu webserver" and I'm sure you'll see something
[21:23] <Dumle29> deniz946: look at a guide for LAMP :)
[21:24] <Dumle29> Linux Apache Mysql PHP  :)
[21:24] <deniz946> I have a webserver installed, i can access it from localhost
[21:24] <k1l> deniz946: link it to your ip.
[21:24] <Dumle29> deniz946: Then go to the advanced DNS page of namecheap
[21:24] <Dumle29> make an A record that points to your IP address
[21:25] <pseudonymous> anyone know which magical dconf/gsettings key which governs the gtk2 theme ? I'm not having any luck here :/
[21:25] <deniz946> Dumle29, it asks me 2 nameserver ips
[21:25] <deniz946> Dumle29, i have only one external ip
[21:25] <Dumle29> deniz946: Use theirs
[21:25] <deniz946> Dumle29, what you mean with theirs?
[21:25] <Dumle29> deniz946: Name servers translate xyz.com into an IP
[21:27] <deniz946> Dumle29, but is there 2 inputs to put, in the first i put my external ip, what i have to put in the second one?
[21:27] <Ben64> no, use their nameservers
[21:27] <Dumle29> don't change the name servers
[21:28] <Dumle29> deniz946: https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/434/78/how-do-i-set-up-host-records-for-a-domain
[21:28] <MikeRL> https://launchpad.net/~lkundrak/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager
[21:28] <MikeRL> Hmm. This may help my issue.
[21:30] <deniz946> Oh i understand, and i have to add A(Address) right?
[21:30] <deniz946> and put my external ip
[21:30] <deniz946> Dumle29,
[21:30] <Ben64> deniz946: yep
[21:31] <deniz946> Done, thanks you Ben64 Dumle29 , you've been very kind
[21:32] <AciD`> hi, using an asus Zenbook ux305fa, with kernel 4.2.0-27, I have the wifi activated (I checked with rfkill list), but somehow it does not find any network (and I have another laptop 10 cm away that can find it). Is there a workaround for iwlwifi cards?
[21:32] <Ben64> deniz946: now wait up to 24 hours for changes to propagate world wide
[21:33] <deniz946> Ben64, right, thanks you sir
[21:33] <TragicM3LON> so? if the UUID's are correct, then /dev/sde shouldn't be an issue then right?
[21:36] <velus> hello i have my mic set up and every thing worksd when i check it but when an app needs it it wont work?
[21:37] <TragicM3LON> can anyone help me?
[21:37] <TragicM3LON> or do i just simply reinstall system at this point?
[21:37] <invitado> hola
[21:37] <Ben64> TragicM3LON: explain the issue fully
[21:38] <TragicM3LON> Ben64: when i boot computer, it says "A Start job is running on dev-md0.device" then boots into emergency mode
[21:39] <Ben64> TragicM3LON: you have raid or lvm or something?
[21:39] <TragicM3LON> i have a raid setup
[21:39] <TragicM3LON> but an ssd for bot
[21:39] <TragicM3LON> boot
[21:39] <Ben64> sorry, i don't do raid, maybe someone else here knows
[21:40] <TragicM3LON> is that simply a raid issue tho?
[21:40] <Ben64> sounds like it
[21:40] <TragicM3LON> ok
[21:49] <skweek> how do I reset gnome?
[21:49] <skweek> all of the windows are huge
[21:49] <skweek> and my network adapter is missing
[21:57] <HappySomethingSo> Hi everyone
[21:57] <HappySomethingSo> I'm having trouble mounting an external drive, I could use some help
[21:58] <HappySomethingSo> if I type lsusb I can see the drive
[21:58] <HappySomethingSo> but I can't see it if I type sudo fdisk -l
[21:58] <HappySomethingSo> I'm a bit lost, it's the first time I'm doing this, I just want access to the drive
[21:58] <HappySomethingSo> thanks
[22:02] <ikonia> HappySomethingSo: ok, so when you plug the drive in, the desktop should auto mount it for you
[22:02] <HappySomethingSo> I'm on the cli
[22:03] <ikonia> HappySomethingSo: you don't have a desktop running ?
[22:03] <HappySomethingSo> no
[22:03] <ikonia> ok, so then the syslog should show it get allocated a device file when you plug it in
[22:04] <HappySomethingSo> where is the syslog?
[22:04] <ikonia> why are you running a system without helpful tools when you don't know the basics of the system
[22:05] <HappySomethingSo> ikonia: I'm not new to linux, but I've never had to deal with drives before, I'm running a server on limited resources so a gui is not optimal
[22:05] <ikonia> HappySomethingSo: if you're not new to linux you should be able to know where the syslog is
[22:06] <ikonia> the log layout is the same as every other distro
[22:06] <Squall5668> ^^
[22:06] <HappySomethingSo> ikonia: I meant I'm able to use it on a user level, so I know the basics, I'm not experienced as an admin
[22:06] <ikonia> HappySomethingSo: it's in /var/log
[22:07] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: what is on that external disk?
[22:07] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: it's empty
[22:07] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: is it new?
[22:07] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: no, it's quite old
[22:09] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: what does "dmesg" tell if you plug that in?
[22:09] <k1l> best is pastebin dmesh
[22:09] <k1l> *dmesg
[22:09] <RNeville> Hello , if I'm in x11 (against, this is correct terminology, and my computer locks up, call I just kill x11 ?
[22:10] <HappySomethingSo> this is the syslog for the drive: http://pastebin.com/xga8Pheq
[22:10] <RNeville> sorry, typo
[22:10] <RNeville> let me ask again
[22:10] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: can you show a "sudo parted -l"?
[22:11] <RNeville> If I'm in Ubuntu and it becomes unresponsive , can I just ill something like X11 and start X Windows again ?
[22:12] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Esp5K1E5
[22:12] <RNeville> not sure I'm using correct terminology (matter-of-fact) I'm sure I didn't in my last question
[22:12] <k1l> RNeville: restart lightdm
[22:12] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: is that a rpi?
[22:12] <eliyaakoub> pouvez vous svp m'envoyer une documentation sur l'emploi et les commandes ubuntu svp
[22:12] <RNeville> k11, do I google lightdm to get more info. on this k11 ?
[22:12] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: yes, i's running ubuntu 14.04 ARM
[22:12] <k1l> eliyaakoub: you have been here often enough now. stick to the guidelines
[22:13] <k1l> !guidelines | HappySomethingSo
[22:13] <k1l> !guidelines | eliyaakoub
[22:13] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: sorry, got confused with the nicks.
[22:13] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: does the external hdd get enough power?
[22:14] <eliyaakoub> merci a plus
[22:14] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: it has its own power cable connected to a socket
[22:14] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: use an external power supply
[22:14] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: yes, it already has that
[22:14] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: and it has a light that turns on, plus, I can see it in lsusb
[22:16] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: from the outputs you shows it should be a /dev/sda
[22:18] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: what does that mean?
[22:19] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: please install "pastebinit" package and show us the whole dmesg with "dmesg | pastebinit"
[22:20] <de-facto> will pulseaudio ever work properly on ubuntu? when i start mumble it gets fucked up so badly that in will be unable to play sound without any crackles afterwards. sudo killall pulseaudio kills it but how do i start it again properly? from terminal as normal user does not work, neiter does it when i start it as root
[22:20] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14883084/
[22:21] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[22:22] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14883098/
[22:22] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: does it work on another pc?
[22:22] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: yeah
[22:23] <HappySomethingSo> I tested it before trying it on the pi
[22:23] <g105b> Can someone help me tweak my find command? I want to _recursively_ move old files to an archive directory, but I am only managing to move files without keeping their directory structure. Current attempted command: find data/ -mtime +30 -type f -name "*.csv" -exec mv "{}" old-data/ \;
[22:23] <deniz946> hello, i've just installed apache in my ubuntu server via ssh, i have opened the 80 port but i can't access to it
[22:24] <deniz946> i have another services at another ports, i can access them but not to my apache (/var/www)
[22:24] <g105b> deniz946: Is apache running?
[22:24] <k1l> HappySomethingSo: seems like that is a common issue for that drive. plug it in once again. others say it need several tries
[22:24] <de-facto> So i guess i would have to make myself to get used to always having to reboot on using mumble then? hmm great
[22:25] <deniz946> g105b, yes :/
[22:25] <k1l> deniz946: make sure the router forwards that ports to only that machine
[22:25] <g105b> deniz946: is it listening on port 80?
[22:25] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: ok, it'll take a bit of time but I'll try
[22:26] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: thanks
[22:26] <deniz946> g105b, how i can see that? k1l yes, it's only for that machine
[22:26] <g105b> deniz946: netstat -tulpn
[22:26] <k1l> deniz946: see the routers menu
[22:26] <deniz946> k1l, atm i don't have access to my router
[22:27] <g105b> deniz946: netstat -tulpn | grep apache2
[22:27] <deniz946> the router is in my work place
[22:27] <deniz946> as the server
[22:27] <g105b> deniz946: what is the output of that command?
[22:27] <deniz946> deniz946@3edadserver:~$ sudo netstat -tulpn | grep apache2
[22:27] <deniz946> tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN      21163/apache2
[22:28] <k1l> deniz946: then better talk to the network admin.
[22:28] <deniz946> k1l, it's port problem then?
[22:29] <deniz946> Because we've got the 80 port open
[22:30] <k1l> deniz946: the router needs to forward the server traffic to the server only coming in on that external ip to the server internal ip.
[22:31] <Squall5668> deniz946: check by running another daemon on the port. You can add ports to the sshd_config for example (careful). Remember to 'stop apache2' first. Also check your iptables configuration with 'iptables -L'
[22:31] <deniz946> k1l, http://i.imgur.com/2HAmUek.png that's how we got it, dont look the 48080, we've changed it to 80
[22:33] <genii> deniz946: Can the server ping an external site or IP on the internet?
[22:33] <deniz946> yes i think genii
[22:33] <irreleph4nt> Hi all. A rather ignorant question b/c I can't find solid information: What happens to emails sent to my openchange server if that server is offline? Are they re-sent at some point?
[22:34] <g105b> deniz946: either you should be connecting to port 48080, or apache should be listening on 48080
[22:34] <deniz946> g105b, no no, we changed it to 80, it was 48080 when i took the screenshot(2 days ago) but today we changed it to 80
[22:34] <Squall5668> irreleph4nt: That depends on the server sending the emails. It's his choice to retry or not and when to give up
[22:34] <genii> deniz946: Please try to ping something, like for instance ping -c5 google.com
[22:35] <deniz946> --- google.com ping statistics ---
[22:35] <deniz946> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
[22:35] <deniz946> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 14.618/14.859/15.517/0.351 ms
[22:35] <deniz946> deniz946@3edadserver:~$
[22:35] <Snakke> hi
[22:35] <k1l> irreleph4nt: think about that mails as lost.
[22:36] <g105b> can an external service like http://mxtoolbox.com/PortScan.aspx see the open port?
[22:36] <g105b> deniz946: ^
[22:36] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: it doesn't seem to have helped
[22:36] <genii> deniz946: If you telnet into port 80 from outside is it open/closed? If open are you seeing http headers?
[22:36] <deniz946> genii, I don't know how to do, if you can explain me
[22:38] <genii> deniz946: For instance:  telnet 123.123.123.123 80          ...it can either connect with a message that you are connected and the escape character listed, or refuse
[22:39] <HappySomethingSo> k1l: I have noticed that when I connect the drive the leds on the rpi shut down, as if there's not enough voltage. The card works fine though, I'm using it via ssh
[22:40] <genii> deniz946: If it connects, you can do: GET / HTTP/1.1          and hit enter, it should show you something then, or else an error message
[22:40] <genii> deniz946: When done, type: QUIT
[22:40] <deniz946> g105b, hmm, what a strange... it says that the port 80 is closed... but i have opened it
[22:41] <deniz946> genii, i think is port problem
[22:41] <g105b> deniz946: no, you haven't.
[22:41] <deniz946> g105b, that's the strange i've opened 8 ports the same way, all them work, just 80 don't work
[22:41] <sv2241> ran an apt-get update & upgrade afterwhich my ubuntu 15.10 just froze after installing  grub-efi-amd64 (2.02~beta2-29ubuntu0.3). when restarting the PC, I get the grub> prompt. what to do?
[22:42] <g105b> deniz946: quick question... are you trying to access the server from within the same LAN?
[22:42] <deniz946> g105b, nop
[22:42] <deniz946> g105b, server is at my work place im at home atm
[22:42] <genii> deniz946: Perhaps the ISP does not allow webservers
[22:42] <g105b> deniz946: router is most likely blocking port 80.
[22:42] <deniz946> g105b, hmm may be that
[22:43] <deniz946> i'm gonna check it tomorrow, and if its open and don't work, gonna call the ISP
[22:43] <OerHeks> I noticed when i update, i get the message to reboot .. unattended security updates does not notify me i need to. should i file a bugreport?
[22:43] <tgm4883> OerHeks: do the unattended ones require a reboot?
[22:44] <OerHeks> So somehow unattended security updates do install, but not notify. yes, tgm4883
[22:44] <deniz946> Thanks for you'r help k1l g105b
[22:44] <OerHeks> brb, then i can tell which ones i got.
[22:44] <g105b> deniz946: good luck tomorrow
[22:45] <sv2241> can anyone please help me sort this thing out
[22:46] <deniz946> last question, how i can make apache listen another port? k1l g105b
[22:46] <g105b> deniz946: in a virtual host
[22:46] <deniz946> it is a file or something?
[22:46] <g105b> deniz946: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[22:47] <DrGreenthumb> Has anyone here used gotomeeting or gotowebinar on Ubuntu?
[22:47] <OerHeks> tgm4883, i recall rebooting after kernel 4.2.0-25.30 ... http://imgur.com/m1HvNWc
[22:47] <tgm4883> g105b: unless he's on 12.04, give him the right one https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/examples.html
[22:48] <tgm4883> OerHeks: that says it's removing kernels. Not adding them
[22:48] <OerHeks> err removing indeed, autoremove.
[22:49] <g105b> tgm4883: top google result for apache vhost
[22:49] <tgm4883> g105b: yea, but it's for an old version that is only in 12.04
[22:49] <g105b> I understand
[22:49] <hehnope> Does linux "cache" drivers between reboots? For example; if i reboot my system from 3.13 to 3.19 kernel the network drivers stop working. If I shutdown my system (5 sec force off) and then drain the PSU and wait 60 seconds; turn it on and use 3.19 drivers the network will work. Then if I reboot from here in 3.13 kernel the network stops working.
[22:49] <bekks> hehnope: No.
[22:49] <tgm4883> g105b: if he used that on apache 2.4, he's likely run into issues getting apache to start
[22:50] <hehnope> bekks: something is going on though; only way for me to get a clean "start" is if i for all intents and purposes pull the plug and wait for PSU to drain its power
[22:51] <bekks> hehnope: what you are experiencing are firmware issues when not powering off the computer completely.
[22:52] <Dumle29> oh woops. Got distracted with a million projects
[22:52] <hehnope> So; for my understanding. 3.13 and 3.19 have different way to interface with the r8189 driver; the one that loads from the specific kernel first "wins"?
[22:52] <hehnope> How do I "unload" this firmware without a hard off and waiting ~60 seconds?
[22:53] <hehnope> i thought my mobo was dying at first ;)
[22:53] <Dumle29> k1l: Still here_
[22:53] <Dumle29> ?
[22:53] <Dumle29> Here's the paste you asked for: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14882806/ (I'm the dude wanting to move my 500gb data partition to a different drive :) )
[22:54] <RNeville> under Ubuntu is there a way to have the clipboard contain more than the last thing copied ; something like this addon under Firefox : http://aecreations.sourceforge.net/clippings/
[22:56] <jmadero> RNeville: maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/584034/ubuntu-14-04-clipboard-manager
[22:56] <RNeville> thx jmadero
[22:56] <crypt0> THE WOUNDED WARRIOR PROJECT
[22:56] <k1l> Dumle29: why do you want to change the ubuntu OS from the fast SSD to a slow hdd?
[22:56] <Dumle29> not the os
[22:57] <k1l> Dumle29: but?
[22:57] <Dumle29> I want to move /media/data
[22:57] <Dumle29> well, the partition associated
[22:57] <k1l> "mount" will show you which partition /media/daten ist
[22:58] <jmadero> Dumle29: you just need to umount whatever is mounted, figure out the UUID of the new drive, then set up fstab - it's pretty straight forward
[22:58] <Dumle29> k1l: I want to move the data I have on sdb, to sdc, make that a windows drive only. then move sdc5 to sdb and expand it
[22:58] <jmadero> Dumle29: are you moving an operating system or just data?
[22:58] <Dumle29> Just data. I have some symlinks pointing in there though, and want to make sure things still work, as long as the new partition is still mounted the right place?
[22:59] <jmadero> Dumle29: set up a temporary mount point for sdc - then rsync sdb to sdc
[22:59] <jmadero> then umount sdb, set up fstab to mounst sdc to /media/data
[22:59] <k1l> Dumle29: ok. first: make sure you got all important data as backup. because according to murphys law its not going to fail if you have a backup.
[22:59] <fabius> ciao
[22:59] <sv2241> cannot boot to OS anymore after grub update. running gpt/uefi. what to do?
[23:00] <Dumle29> I'll have to move my data off of sdb from windows. It's things like dropbox, onedrive, synology cloud station, etc.
[23:00] <jmadero> sv2241: grub-repair?
[23:00] <Dumle29> Gotta point them to a new folder
[23:00] <sv2241> from grub> ?
[23:00] <jmadero> from live boot
[23:00] <k1l> Dumle29: then copy all data to sdc1 (whatever that is mounted as). then "dd" sdc5 to sdb1. then use gparted to increase the new sdb1 to the whole disk
[23:00] <sv2241> jmadero: checking now
[23:00] <jmadero> sv2241: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:00] <jmadero> it's boot-repair not grub-repair
[23:01] <Dumle29> k1l: Gotcha. thanks.
[23:01] <Dumle29> Just wanted to make sure symlinks and such weren't UUID dependant
[23:02] <sv2241> boot-repair throws this error when in livecd: "gpt detected. please create a bios-boot partition (1mb unformatted file system bios_grub flag)" ?!
[23:02] <k1l> Dumle29: symlinks are mountpoint related.  but uuids are used in fstab for automated mounting. you will need to change them to the new order after you are finished.
[23:02] <Dumle29> k1l: ok, thanks :)
[23:04] <sv2241> dont know what else to do
[23:05] <elcore> Any chance to get net.core.somaxconn over 65535?
[23:05] <sv2241> anyone?
[23:12] <TragicM3LON> anyone getting the archives to work?
[23:13] <k1l> TragicM3LON: pastebin the error
[23:13] <TragicM3LON> trying to reinstall ubuntu server , and it doesn't move past downloading release files for checking the ubuntu archive
[23:13] <TragicM3LON> ubuntu archive mirrior
[23:14] <bekks> TragicM3LON: works4me
[23:14] <k1l> TragicM3LON: what ubuntu version?
[23:14] <TragicM3LON> 14.04.3
[23:17] <TragicM3LON> ya i can't for the life of me get past that part of the install now :(
[23:18] <TragicM3LON> even this laptop i'm on, after doing apt-get update it's having some trouble
[23:18] <TragicM3LON> could it be my network
[23:18] <k1l> sounds like that
[23:21] <designbybeck_> Something odd has happened to my 14.04 64bit Networking this past week. I no longer have networking, I've rebooted a few times. It is hardwired. ifconfig only shows lo
[23:21] <designbybeck_> i've tried to plug in a USB Wifi device and still ifconfig only shows lo
[23:22] <antervortecootue> selam
[23:23] <TragicM3LON> hmm now it loaded
[23:23] <TragicM3LON> that was weird
[23:26] <dlam> hey what daemon thingy should i use? (im setting up a web server for an app)  like supervisord? or upstrat?  dunno whats "best"
[23:32] <ubuntu417> does anyone know how to re-add missing elements from the top menu bar in 14.04? I'm missing the menu for network, struggling to find a solution
[23:32] <cortexman> i installed a faulty nvidia kernel module and now i can't boot. i'm having a hard time getting into a command line so i can revert my xorg.conf
[23:33] <cortexman> i can get into a grub command line but it's not clear what to do from there. what i really need is ubuntu to not try to run a gui
[23:34] <cortexman> ping
[23:36] <Conflict> can anyone tell me if touchscreen will work well if install ubuntu 15.x on an acer c720p chromebook?
[23:37] <Conflict> also, can anyone tell me how many GB a fresh ubuntu 15.10 install takes up?
[23:38] <k1l> Conflict: might work. but best is to see what the internet says for the experiences with that exact make and model
[23:38] <jmadero> Conflict: minimum requirements are 5 gigs - to be safe I'd say double that
[23:39] <cortexman> when i try to edit my grub file it looks like this: https://gist.github.com/brianmingus/dedb7816b0e9bf18b731
[23:39] <lucasrangit> cortexman, did you try a recovery kernel that drops you in an initramfs where you can mount your root partition and then copy back your old xorg.conf?
[23:39] <cortexman> lucasrangit i'm not seeing any recovery kernels
[23:39] <cortexman> those would show up in my ubuntu boot options right?
[23:40] <lucasrangit> cortexman, yes, under Advanced I think
[23:40] <cortexman> yeah, there aren't any
[23:40] <cortexman> i have my kernel, and (upstart) and (recovery mode) options
[23:40] <cortexman> both of which also freeze
[23:40] <Conflict> k1l, i guess a better question would be how does touchscreen work in unity in general?  because if i can get ubuntu to install on a chromebook it should function /somewhat/ similar to a regular install
[23:41] <lucasrangit> cortexman, you can go into recovery if you add the work "recovery" to the kernel command line
[23:41] <cortexman> but recovery mode also freezes
[23:41] <lucasrangit> cortexman, i see. and you suspect the nvidea driver?
[23:41] <cortexman> yes
[23:41] <jmadero> Conflict: it works fine with touch screen....google has these answers
[23:41] <cortexman> it just compiled a kernel module and i rebooted
[23:41] <jmadero> lots of posts/blogs about how people experience Ubuntu with touchscreens
[23:42] <k1l> Conflict: ubuntu got touchscreen support. but, the regular desktops are not really made for touching it with fingers, yet. tiny windowsbuttons, rightclick menus etc etc.
[23:42] <lucasrangit> cortexman, try disabling the driver from loading at boot using "modprobe.blacklist=nvidia"
[23:42] <lucasrangit> cortexman, add that to the kernel command line while in GRUB
[23:42] <Conflict> i've heard a few different answers on ubuntu post-installation drive space.  i've heard it takes up ~3gb and i've heard it takes up around ~6gb... anyone have a more accurate answer?  or how much the post-installation updates take up?
[23:42] <k1l> Conflict: if you got that device, intsall it and see yourself
[23:43] <jmadero> Conflict: the minimum requirements are 5 gigs
[23:43] <jmadero> I said that already
[23:43] <cortexman> lucasrangit, which line? https://gist.github.com/brianmingus/dedb7816b0e9bf18b731
[23:43] <Conflict> k1l, i dont, i want to buy one, but i'd like some knowledge first
[23:43] <jmadero> my experience is that once you install everything normal - it's about 12 gigs
[23:43] <jmadero> you need of course space for SWAP
[23:43] <Conflict> jmadero, sorry, missed your original answer
[23:43] <k1l> Conflict: a full desktop with all the stuff you like is up to 10GB. + the data you want to put on it like music, downloads, pictures etc.
[23:43] <jmadero> config files (thunderbird alone takes up over a gig for me)
[23:43] <cortexman> i'm guessing you mean the 'linux' line
[23:44] <lucasrangit> Does anyone know why the ubuntu/ directory with zfs and such is missing from the https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-test/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/mainline-crack/tree/ tree? fakeroot debian/rules clean has errors and build fails without it
[23:44] <k1l> Conflict: best is really to look after experiences from that exact make and model.
[23:44] <Conflict> thank you for the help.
[23:44] <lucasrangit> cortexman, the line that starts with "linux /boot/...."
[23:45] <cortexman> lucasrangit is there a way to tell it to boot to a command line as well? it made it further but still froze
[23:45] <cortexman> i feel like if i can just get access to my file system, i can fix it
[23:46] <Conflict> 2gb for swap, would you guys find this to be adequate?
[23:46] <lucasrangit> cortexman, can you boot from a live USB then? that will allow you access to your file system
[23:46] <jmadero> Conflict: general rule is 2x RAM if you want to have access to hibernate
[23:46] <jmadero> if not, 2 gigs is more then enough
[23:46] <Squall5668> cortexman: why don't you just boot from a livecd and chroot in the installation
[23:46] <cortexman> i have one but i get a bunch of errors concerning accessing my usb
[23:47] <designbybeck_> No one else having problems with 14.04 64bit? Just started this past week, maybe after an update?
[23:47] <squinty> ubuntu417,  should have Network  in System Settings
[23:47] <volty> mistake, few minutes ago, I did chmod o+r * on /
[23:47] <volty> how can I roll back ?
[23:47] <lucasrangit> cortexman, another option is to remove the drive and mount it from another computer if possible
[23:47] <shibboleth> Is there a ubuntu touch/phone channel?
[23:47] <Conflict> jmadero, cheers
[23:47] <k1l> !touch | shibboleth
[23:48] <squinty> shibboleth, #ubuntu-touch
[23:48] <shibboleth> thanks
[23:48] <cortexman> having a thumb drive freezes the bios
[23:48] <cortexman> :/
[23:49] <designbybeck_> Something odd has happened to my 14.04 64bit Networking this past week. I no longer have networking, I've rebooted a few times. It is hardwired. ifconfig only shows lo
[23:50] <cortexman> i replaced 'quiet splash' with text and it is getting farther
[23:51] <cortexman> still freezing :(
[23:52] <Squall5668> cortexman: when you think it's freezing, have you trying switching to a tty?
[23:52] <cortexman> yes
[23:52] <volty> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, pls post an ls -l /
[23:53] <volty> (or whatever else version)
[23:53] <Squall5668> Then it looks like you need to make your livecd
[23:53] <cortexman> i have one, but for some reason my bios freezes when i have it in
[23:54] <cortexman> the instant i remove it, it unfreezes
[23:55] <squinty> designbybeck,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet
[23:55] <cortexman> it freezes the instant i put it in as well :(
[23:56] <benniblanco> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask; is it safe to download PDF files I find from google search?
[23:57] <jmadero> benniblanco: yes
[23:57] <Squall5668> cortexman: So you cannot boot normally, have no single-user option and cannot start the pc via exernal drives?
[23:57] <jmadero> benniblanco: and this isn't the right place but that's okay :)
[23:57] <designbybeck_> let me check that squinty
[23:57] <benniblanco> thank you
[23:59] <designbybeck_> squinty, that sounds like that might be my problem and might fix it. Thank you!
[23:59] <shibboleth> ok, so #ubuntu-touch is a dead zone ATM :(