| calher | I did `bzr remove foo~' and it said it removed foo~ but kept a copy foo~.1 | 01:54 |
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| calher | removed COPYING~.~1~ (but kept a copy: COPYING~.~1~.~1~) | 01:56 |
| calher | Do people here actually prefer Bazaar? | 06:05 |
| * fullermd_ would assume :) | 06:10 | |
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| calher | fullermd: Cool! I know it's not too popular and people make fun of it, but I like Bazaar for my personal revisioning. | 06:11 |
| fullermd | In a world that contains VSS, I can hardly imagine making fun of bzr... | 06:12 |
| calher | fullermd: VSS? | 06:13 |
| fullermd | Oh, my. If you don't already know, don't try to find out. | 06:14 |
| fullermd | You'll never sleep again. | 06:14 |
| calher | => bzr sucks | 06:16 |
| * Peng gasps | 06:16 | |
| fullermd | bzr: ERROR: unknown command "sucks" | 06:16 |
| calher | That is, if I must be scared to learn what "VSS" is. | 06:17 |
| fullermd | There are many things in the world any sensible person should be scared of :p | 06:19 |
| calher | ohh visual anything is bad | 06:19 |
| calher | i think judging bzr by vss is a low standard tho | 06:20 |
| fullermd | There're a lot of low standards available in present VCSen, to say nothing of historical :p | 06:24 |
| fullermd | You can be _so_ much more pathetic than anything about bzr, and still be in like the top 10%... | 06:24 |
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| quicksilver | I have a conflict in code which the author has 'tidied' | 16:13 |
| quicksilver | (indentation changes) | 16:13 |
| quicksilver | that is, there is a real honest conflict, but the extent of it is considerably confused by purely formatting changes | 16:13 |
| quicksilver | are there any clever tricks? | 16:13 |
| quicksilver | I tried formatting the two branches identically and committing that before the merge | 16:14 |
| quicksilver | whilst that makes the diff look simpler (good) it makes the merge conflict worse :( | 16:14 |
| fmccann | Hey bzr folks. I’ve been working on packaging some bzr plugins as Homebrew formulas to make installation on OS X much easier. I’ve got bzrtools, qbzr, and bzr-explorer working pretty well. I'm trying to get bzr-bisect, bzr-difftools, and bzr-extmerge set up, but they have no release tarballs in launchpad. Would it be possible to have an official tarball made for these projects? I can't pull direclty from version control in a Homebrew for | 18:10 |
| fmccann | and we'd need to have a release from the authoritative source. | 18:10 |
| beuno | vila, ^ | 18:40 |
| beuno | fmccann, vila's not around, but he might be able to do that | 18:40 |
| vila | fmccann: hello there ! | 18:41 |
| fmccann | Howdy! | 18:41 |
| vila | fmccann: Please to meet you ;) What osx version are you using ? | 18:42 |
| fmccann | I’m on OS X 10.11.13 | 18:42 |
| fmccann | But I can make the Homebrew formula make easy installs for most any recent versions of OS X | 18:42 |
| vila | fmccann: I have not the fanciest idea about Homebrew ;-) Have you looked at the lp:bzr-mac-installers project ? | 18:43 |
| vila | https://launchpad.net/bzr-mac-installers | 18:43 |
| fmccann | I haven’t looked at that - I assume that’s what creates the dmg packaged installer? | 18:44 |
| vila | yes, is that obsolete for 10.11 ? | 18:44 |
| fmccann | I think the website says the last build was for 10.7 or so | 18:45 |
| fmccann | I’m trying to get packages into OS X’s most popular package manager - I think this is how people are keeping bzr up to date on OS X these days | 18:45 |
| vila | yes, so if you can build one for 10.11 with qbzr only that would already be a huge step forward | 18:46 |
| fmccann | I’m more than happy to throw some time at that as well | 18:46 |
| fmccann | either way, would it be possible for bzr-bisect, bzr-difftools, and bzr-extmerge to have a formal release tarball? | 18:47 |
| vila | If you have a way to install bzr on osx 10.11, there is a 2.7.0 release in the works | 18:47 |
| vila | certainly | 18:47 |
| fmccann | Is that on the horizon? I’m planning on updating http://bzrinit.com when that’s out | 18:47 |
| * vila blinks | 18:48 | |
| * vila reads | 18:48 | |
| * vila blinks again | 18:48 | |
| beuno | fmccann, that is a great site, I hadn't heard of before! | 18:49 |
| vila | fmccann: are you subscribed to the (beuno, stop stealing my words ;-) mailing list ? | 18:49 |
| fmccann | I am | 18:50 |
| fmccann | I did announce the site back in 2011 I think | 18:50 |
| beuno | vila, type faster! | 18:50 |
| fmccann | and while I know a bunch of languages, I haven’t bit the bullet and learned python yet, but at some point I’ll get past packages and documentation and seriosuly break trunk one day :D | 18:50 |
| vila | fmccann: it should be referenced on the bzr site, sorry about that oversight :-/ | 18:50 |
| vila | fmccann: care to throw a MP at it ? | 18:51 |
| fmccann | what’s the lp url for the site? | 18:51 |
| vila | https://launchpad.net/bzr-website | 18:52 |
| fmccann | No problem. I’ll get a MP in there | 18:52 |
| vila | \o/ | 18:53 |
| vila | fmccann: back to the ML. Would you mind replying to the freeze announcement message describing your status/progress/needs on 10.11 ? | 18:54 |
| fmccann | Sure | 18:54 |
| fmccann | Just for future reference, is the mailing list or the IRC channel the preferred way of harrasing people? :D | 18:54 |
| vila | Be careful what you wish for :) | 18:55 |
| vila | You just summoned the Daemon of The Channel ;) | 18:55 |
| vila | fmccann: whatever works for you, IRC is higly dependent of time zones | 18:56 |
| fmccann | ok. And let me appologize in advance if I get any of the launchpad ettiquite or process wrong. I mean well ;) | 18:56 |
| vila | fmccann: and back to the tarballs. I could create one for bzr-bisect but for bzr-difftools and bzr-extmerge, only the maintainers can | 18:57 |
| fmccann | ok | 18:57 |
| fmccann | Is the mailing list the best way to reach out to them? Or filing a bug against the project? | 18:58 |
| vila | fmccann: but even that is not really needed, if you say: this is version revno X 'bzr export' gives you a 100% reproducible tarball | 18:58 |
| fmccann | So the issue here really is the homebrew guys. They don’t have a mechanism for pulling from VCS oddly enough. They need a staged tarball from the owner of the project. I’m asking them if there’s a way around this, because I don’t see a problem with pulling from bzr directly | 18:59 |
| vila | fmccann: Ideally well defined bugs (scoped) are the best to track progress and organize people around tasks | 18:59 |
| vila | fmccann: I think we can arrange that as part of the bzr release and provide tarballs from https://launchpad.net/bzr/+milestone/2.7.0 | 19:01 |
| vila | fmccann: i.e. where we provide installers | 19:01 |
| fmccann | great | 19:01 |
| vila | fmccann: do you have a way to test those installations /before/ we provide the tarballs there though ? | 19:02 |
| vila | fmccann: never mind, we can iterate until the release is announced | 19:05 |
| fmccann | ok | 19:05 |
| fmccann | for now I made my own tarbal and built packages | 19:05 |
| fmccann | which works, but it’s not good enough to go into the global package repository | 19:06 |
| fmccann | The last issue I’m working through is getting the python path playing ball on OS X for pyqt and dulwich (working on bzr-git) | 19:06 |
| fmccann | but that’s all OS X and homebrew specific, not the bzr code | 19:06 |
| vila | oh, that's good enough to test the tarballs :) | 19:07 |
| vila | fmccann: are you using lp:bzr or lp:bzr/2.7 ? | 19:07 |
| fmccann | RIght now I’m sticking with 2.6 until 2.7 is baked | 19:08 |
| vila | fmccann: 2.7.0 won't change anymore | 19:08 |
| fmccann | so 2.7 is go? I can get the packge for OS X updated and work on the OS X installer once I make sesne of that | 19:09 |
| vila | if commits have to be done on lp:bzr/2.7 , you will need them | 19:09 |
| fmccann | is 2.7 officially the stable release now? | 19:09 |
| vila | fmccann: yes, the freeze announcement is the 'go' for packagers on the formal announcement is planned for 2016-02-12 iirc | 19:09 |
| fmccann | :D | 19:09 |
| vila | fmccann: it *will* be official with whatever installers are available | 19:10 |
| fmccann | Well, I’m glad I popped in today. I’ll get it working on OS X asap | 19:10 |
| vila | fmccann: it would probably sound a bit abusive to call it a rolling release... But the idea is that 2.7.0 is only a new label on the most tested version of bzr since that's what is currently distributed :-} | 19:11 |
| vila | so we release what has been tested and we don't touch anything ;) | 19:11 |
| fmccann | Hey, that’s just software these days. At a minimum bumping the version will keep people from telling me no one is working on this. | 19:12 |
| vila | fmccann: you get the idea ;-D | 19:12 |
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