DarinMillerKadesy: Do you see see a grub boot menu before trying to boot Kubuntu?00:18
oaktree347I'm running KDE Plasma 5 on Ubuntu 15.10. I'm having an issue where the desktop sometimes crashes from the pretty version with no icons to an ugly, purple version with icons. This just randomly happens and only sometimes.00:57
oaktree347Either it's this way on login, or it happens when I shutdown. It always happens on shutdown.00:57
oaktree347Also, other times the screens (i have 2 monitors) flicker between the desktop i am used to seeing and the weird, unity-looking one I described above. I've tried completely getting rid of unity to no avail. thoughts?00:57
valoriehmmm, another ask & leave04:54
bukaiHi guys,can someone please tell me, is it possible to send attachments using djrill?05:15
valoriewhat is djrill?05:15
valorie!info djrill05:16
ubottuPackage djrill does not exist in wily05:16
bukaivalorie: I am very sorry wrong channel. It is mandrill's django plug in05:16
bukaiI am really very sorry05:16
lordievaderGood morning.06:48
mohan___Hello... I installed Kubuntu 15.10 on my notebook today, and restarted into the newly installed OS. It worked well, and I was prompted to do a update. The update required a restart to finish. On restart, the boot failed. I've tried multiple times now. There is no error shown. Any help on how to proceed?08:13
hateballmohan___: can you hold/hammer shift when booting, that should give you a grub menu08:14
mohan___On different boots, the boot stuck at rc-local.service, accounts-daemon.service, and Started Accounts Service08:14
hateballmohan___: there you can edit the boot line and remove "quiet splash" so you can see where it chokes08:14
hateballoh, you already do08:14
hateballmohan___: anyhow, can you get into grub and pick recovery session?08:14
mohan___oops, sorry, should have included that in the first post08:14
mohan___I did once08:14
mohan___I got a terminal08:15
mohan___was able to log in08:15
hateballmohan___: in that terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:15
mohan___alright, hang on while I try08:15
mohan___is any command required to enable the network?08:15
hateballno it should work automatically08:16
hateballmohan___: ping
hateballmohan___: if that fails, we'll need to do some manual labor to bring up the interface08:16
mohan___give me a few minutes, I'll try and be back08:16
didrodbonjour à tous08:20
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:20
hateballI only meant for them to not waste time typing a long thing in french :/08:20
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mohan31@hateball did what you suggested. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded.08:27
hateballmohan31: That's not very awesome, then08:28
mohan31hateball: what next?08:28
mohan31hateball: I can do a reinstall, no problem, because it was a fresh install, but I would like to get to the root of the problem, so that it doesnt crash again08:29
OerHekssudo apt-get install -f # to see if any update failed?08:29
hateballmohan31: try that ^08:29
mohan31on it08:29
mohan31same message as before. 0 to all08:30
OerHekslast resort, but i think unlikely packages messed up: sudo dpkg --configure -a08:32
hateballWell there are a few more things to try I'd say08:32
OerHeksWhat error/result do you get when you boot? black screen ?08:32
hateballmohan31: You can try picking an older kernel in the grub menu when you boot08:33
mohan31hmm, this might be relevant. On the same laptop, I had been running kubuntu 14.04 till yesterday. I did an upgrade, I'm not sure to which, but I got a similar crash yesterday. Since I've been meaning to do a fresh install sometime, I took the opportunity and did the fresh install today.08:33
mohan31if I have the gui boot, then I get a black screen08:33
mohan31gui boot, as in, splash screen08:34
mohan31if I escape the splash screen, I don't get an error, but it stalls at different points each time08:34
hateballmohan31: I think an fsck is in order08:34
hateballas well checking your disks health with smartctl08:34
mohan31sudo dpkg --configure -a didn't give me any result, just back to my prompt. Running the update again gives me the same message - 0 to upgrade, install, remove08:35
mohan31hateball: Ill try the older kernel, give me a sec08:36
OerHeksno result is ok.08:36
mohan31tried with 4.2.0-16. Still stalling. This time at kerneloops.service08:37
mohan310erHeks: didn't get any result08:38
hateballmohan31: can you liveboot the system and run fsck and smartctl checks?08:38
mohan31hateball: could you guide me on how to do the fsck? and smartctl? both from the prompt I guess?08:39
hateballmohan31: you'll need to liveboot08:39
mohan31okay, once I liveboot, what should I do?08:39
hateballmohan31: sudo fsck /dev/sda108:39
hateballmohan31: or whatever partitions you have08:39
mohan31all partitions, or just the one in which I've installed kubuntu?08:40
mohan31I have an ext4 for the kubuntu install, another ext4 for /home, an the swap08:40
hateballmohan31: checking the root partition should be enough, but it isnt like it takes any amount of time really08:41
hateballso you may as well check /home as wlel08:41
valorieis this a nomodeset situation?08:41
mohan31ah okay, will do and get back to you. same command with mutatis mutandis for smartctl?08:42
mohan31valorie: I'm sorry, I have no idea what you mean. but if it has anything to do with a graphics card, I don't believe my laptop has one. It's kind of old... It has just the inbuilt video card08:43
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:43
mohan31hateball: should I mount to do a fsck?08:44
hateballmohan31: no08:44
mohan31okay, thanks08:44
hateballmohan31: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda08:44
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mohan31hateball: fsck clean for both root and home08:45
hateballwell that is good in a way08:45
mohan31running the smartctl command you gave now08:46
hateballit'll probably be alright08:46
mohan31okay, I'm a bit lost with the smartctl results... what should I be looking for?08:47
hateballmohan31: anything more than 0 for reallocated sectors or uncorrectable errors indicate a bad drive08:49
hateballmohan31: but most likely that would have led to a corrupt filesystem, so I doubt that's any concern08:49
hateballyou could try what valorie suggested08:49
hateball!nomodeset | mohan3108:49
ubottumohan31: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:49
mohan31with the smartctl, for reallocated_sector_ct, I have an R of 0.08:51
mohan31cant find an uncorrectable errors, but there is offline_uncorrectable, which is again 008:52
hateballye as I said, doubt there's any errors on it08:52
mohan31okay, i'll try nomodeset08:52
mohan31hateball: tried nomodeset (from the grub edit). now I'm stuck with the splash screen (unlike before where I get a black screen)09:00
mohan31I am also unable to see the boot by hitting escape09:01
mohan31okay, I just noticed that I'm getting an error high up (booting again without nomodeset). "Failed to start LSB: AppArmor initialization"09:02
mohan31this is not where the boot stalls though, this is rather earlier09:03
mohan31the only noticeable pattern about where the boot stalls is this: it invariably occurs a step or a few steps after "Starting Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit"09:04
hateballmohan31: can you edit your bootline and remove "quiet splash"09:05
hateballmohan31: what GPU chipset is this?09:05
mohan31will do, and boot with nomodeset?09:05
mohan31um... don't know... any way to find out?09:05
hateballmohan31: lspci |grep VGA09:05
hateballmohan31: skip nomodeset, just edit the regular bootline and remove quiet splash09:06
mohan31okay, hang on09:06
mohan31okay, this is weird, removing quiet splash, I just get a black screen throughout09:07
hateballhmmmm, it should be spitting out information about what it is doing09:08
mohan31not sure if its relevant, but theres an entry $vt_handoff after quiet splash, on the same line. I didnt remove that.09:09
hateballthat's fine09:09
mohan31hmm, removing quiet splash, i hit escape as soon as I got the black screen, and I saw the processes happening again. This time, it stalled at IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE)09:11
hateballcertainly sounds like something is broken but I am running out of ideas what to check09:11
hyper_chhi there, latest kubuntu can't be run in vm... installation works but afterwards just black screen09:12
mohan31hmm... Im just worried that I got a very similar error on updating my old installation. It happened again with a fresh latest install... not sure how to proceed09:12
hateballhyper_ch: what hypervisor are you using?09:12
hyper_chhateball: virtualbox09:12
hateballhyper_ch: Alright. I have no idea about any potential quirks there, perhaps some else does tho09:13
hateballhyper_ch: by latest, do you mean 15.10 ?09:13
mohan31hateball: the VGA chipset - Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)09:18
hateballshouldnt be any driver issue then09:21
hateballmohan31: sorry I am drawing a blank here :|09:21
hateballmohan31: if it were me, I would reinstall with 16.04 nightly. But that's not advisable unless you are prepared for breakage09:22
mohan31Hmm... Maybe I'll do a fresh install, and then not update till 16.04 is released?09:23
mohan31I'm a student, and in the process of writing my thesis... Can't afford to break the system again in between, but can experiment after my thesis is done09:24
mohan31hateball: just curious, are there any logs I could check?09:24
hateballmohan31: you have various logs in /var/log but I am not sure how much gets written if it stalls.09:25
hateballmohan31: and you cant get to a different tty and log in either I guess?09:25
mohan31but I meant about the update I did previous to the break?09:26
hateballmohan31: if that's the case you'd need to liveboot and mount the partition to read in /var/log09:26
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hateballmohan31: update history is in /var/log/apt/history*09:26
mohan31I'll try to check that09:26
mohan31hateball: this is weird... I'm reading /var/log/apt/history. In the update I did prior to the crash, quite a few packages were removed. I cant make sense of most of it, but I'm guessing things like update-manager-core, konsole, kmail, perl, ksysguard, kde-runtime etc. should not be removed?09:33
hateballmohan31: no, that isnt very good09:34
mohan31oh, add kwin-x11 to the list09:34
mohan31quite a few packages...09:34
hateballmohan31: if you can boot in recovery again, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"09:34
hateballmohan31: that'll take a good long while tho09:35
mohan31i'll try... could this be a bug with Muon? because that's what I used for the updates...09:35
hateballmohan31: I suppose, tho I havent heard of it09:36
hateballI only use commandline to manage these things09:36
mohan31mm, I should have too... I am not comfortable with muon either, I generally use synaptic09:37
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aektzishelloz ^^09:44
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mohan31hateball: I'm trying the kde reinstall now. If that doesnt work either, Ill just do a clean reinstall and sit tight without updating. Thank you so much for all the help... You've been most kind and patient...09:50
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Dani_Guys I do something stupid can you help me09:58
Dani_I deleted my network-manager09:59
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hateballoh they left10:31
mohan31hateball: w00t! the kde reinstall worked! Thank you!10:47
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BluesKajHey folks11:51
lordievaderHey BluesKaj, how are you doing?11:51
BluesKajhey lordievader, fine thanks, and you?11:52
lordievaderDoing okay here :)11:53
noaXesshey hey13:28
noaXessanybody also using vlc for playing movies? i use nouveau driver.. and vlc shows not the whole movie.. how can i explain.. hm..13:28
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soeenot whole ?13:29
soeecuts some part of visible area?13:30
BluesKajnoaXess, which nvidia gpu?  Perhaps the recommended driver would be better, although I've never had problems with nouveau and vlc13:31
noaXesscheck this13:33
noaXesscan only see part of movie13:33
noaXesswith dragon player it works13:33
OerHeksF12 maximize vlc, then the ratio goes full screen, or change the size of the vlcwindow, seen that before13:34
OerHekserr F11 maximize13:34
noaXessOerHeks: no.. if fullscreen.. it shows less movie parts13:35
stuhey all.  total noob here13:35
stuhow can i browse a windows network?13:35
noaXessstu: dolphon, click into addressbar and type: smb:13:37
studo i insall that?13:38
noaXessis default file manager in kubuntu.. and smb is a default network protocoll..13:38
stuahhh.  let me try that13:38
stusays it cant find konquerer13:39
stunoaXess it worked.....can i map a drive?13:42
Aristidestu: Konqueror is not provided by default13:42
AristideYou must install software13:42
Aristidestu: You can brows network with smb:// or with \\ip13:43
stui found it.  can i map a drive like Windows?13:43
Aristidestu: You can put folder into the left pannel13:45
Aristidehttp://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/863026shortcut.png Like this :p13:46
noaXessor use smb4k13:52
noaXesswith smb4k you can browse networks, and mount shares to local folder.. then you can access this local folder from any program..13:53
BluesKajstu, in dolphin places , choose network, then add network folder, then Microsoft Windows network drive, the fill in the fields, then save and connect13:56
BluesKajstu, you can then add the resulting folder to places in dolphin13:58
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SanguichI installed KDE Neon on my Kubuntu build and no my build is WAYYYY too buggy.  Is this a good place to get help with this?15:14
lordievaderSanguich: #kde-neon would be better15:14
Sanguichroger.  I tried over there just now, but didn't get a response.l  I'll hang tight to see if anyone comments.  Thanks!15:16
stuthanks all for the help.  im good.  it just freezes when watching vids.....15:25
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ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases16:40
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BluesKajtheDuderino, check your irc connection please18:52
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neotomhello all19:33
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Guest67649How to make icons become smaller when there is too many opened programs in the taskbar (bottom panel)? Like in Windows. Or at least to show some arrows or navigation to access programs that are outside the vidible icons.20:03
Guest67649I have only icons (like in Windows 720:04
Guest67649in the taskbar , but I get sometiimes out of space when I have opened too many programs and some are non accessible20:04
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Swipe-can't wait for 16.04, sick of plasma crashes once a week in 15.10. Never had one single plasmashell crash in 15.0420:33
soul_guys, how can I enable a systemd service?21:50
rattking'systemctl enable service'21:51
DarinMilleri.e.: sudo systemctl enable kdm21:52
perry_just got kunbuntu so happy22:01
bprompt"hay bartender",  said the horse at the bar22:01
perry_and on a macbook :D22:01
DarinMillerCool :)22:01
bprompt*cough* ahemm    16.04 is coming out in 2 months, and it's LTS *cough*22:02
perry_anyone know how to change boot loader defalt by chance?22:02
DarinMillerDual boot using rEFit or virtual?22:02
perry_accidently changed defalt bootloader to the partion I'm running on and... you know -_-22:02
DarinMillerIt's been awhile so I don't recall off the top... I would have to google ....22:03
perry_i'll check later not important22:03
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soul_Thank you rattkingand Dar22:12
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