| hikiko | hi | 05:56 |
|---|---|---|
| andyrock | morning all | 07:08 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:39 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:45 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock pitti | 08:46 |
| alexarnaud | Good morning andyrock pitti seb128 ! | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hey alexarnaud | 08:47 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey, in case you didn't notice doko just did a libreoffice upload to xenial for multiarch bits, you might need to rebase your update/include those changes | 08:53 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:01 |
| willcooke | hey seb128, happy Friday :) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | happy friday indeed! | 09:02 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: urgh ... | 09:03 |
| willcooke | morning Sweet5hark | 09:03 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, yeah, doko can be annoying like that... | 09:03 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke, all: moin! | 09:03 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, we can also upload your update, reverting his changes and teaching him to work with others ;-) | 09:03 |
| Laney | yo | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday! | 09:05 |
| Laney | hi seb128 | 09:05 |
| Laney | happy friday to you too! | 09:05 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: nah, doko did ask me cryptically to meet to talk about $something at FOSDEM and meeting at breakfast, I wrote him a mail suggesting to meet at 8:30-9:00 on monday to have a concrete, but that didnt work out apparently ... | 09:06 |
| Sweet5hark | (was having breakfast with Laney and larsu instead though then ...) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | (seems like a better choice ;-) | 09:06 |
| Sweet5hark | hrhr | 09:07 |
| Laney | ahaha it fails to build | 09:07 |
| seb128 | go doko! | 09:07 |
| * Sweet5hark grabs popcorn ... | 09:07 | |
| Sweet5hark | Laney: link error in libsc? | 09:07 |
| Laney | configure: error: Package requirements (libcmis-0.5 >= 0.5.0) were not met: | 09:08 |
| Sweet5hark | ah, lol. | 09:09 |
| Sweet5hark | libcmis was bumped to the version that comes with LibreOffice 5.1 and LibreOffice 5.0 thus is unhappy ... | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no | 09:10 |
| seb128 | we have 0.5.0 since wily | 09:10 |
| seb128 | but doko multiarched that lib yesterday :p | 09:10 |
| seb128 | maybe something went wrong there | 09:10 |
| seb128 | oh well, he does things without talking to others, he gets to debug things by himself then... | 09:11 |
| Sweet5hark | hmm. gotta see if my 5.1 package still builds against that then ... | 09:12 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, hide! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | doko is pinging around now ;-) | 09:12 |
| * Laney trolls | 09:13 | |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:13 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: thanks for the hint on l10n isos btw, fixed that. | 09:13 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, you don't happen to know if there's any C libraries for accessing dpkg / apt do you? They all seem to be Perl or C++ | 09:24 |
| robert_ancell | Or marked as internal / will break at any time | 09:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, sorry I don't, that would be a mvo question but he doesn't seem around | 09:24 |
| hikiko | Trevinho, andyrock https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/nux/nux.missing-header-file/+merge/285160 could you top-approve this? (it's just a missing header file unity complains about) | 09:26 |
| hikiko | 1 line MP :) | 09:26 |
| * Sweet5hark build a 1.4GB snap yesterday. | 09:34 | |
| Sweet5hark | (lets see if I win another "LibreOffice: based on technology breaking your toolchain since 1985!" t-shirt with that) | 09:37 |
| willcooke | We have a winner for "The most ridiculous comment on the internet this week" | 09:49 |
| willcooke | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-ship-with-older-nautilus-due-to-bugs-and-menubar-499962.shtml | 09:49 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: heh, the headline already sounded suspiciously like that when it flew by on g+ | 09:53 |
| willcooke | People must read this stuff though | 09:53 |
| willcooke | Oh, how about this | 09:54 |
| willcooke | We set up a website where every time one of us or sil2100 eat a sandwich we write down what was in it | 09:55 |
| willcooke | and then sell advertising on the site | 09:55 |
| sil2100 | Oh ooh! | 09:55 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: that said, them spambots start to tweet and share that old ridiculous "Ubuntu causes girl to drop of of college" FUD video again. | 09:55 |
| willcooke | ha, I love that video | 09:56 |
| sil2100 | There was a video like that? uh | 09:56 |
| willcooke | sil2100, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI | 09:56 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: seems someone is nervous about our recent PR. So our marketing is doing something right. | 09:56 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: I like the first comment: "I installed Linux on my machine and my life also went to shit. My computer now boots way too fast, I can't manage to get any adware or viruses installed, I have too much available ram, the package manager makes it way to easy to install software, I never have to deal with my computer taking an hour to do automatic updates and I didn't even get to pay for anything." | 09:57 |
| willcooke | XD | 09:58 |
| seb128 | willcooke, that's going to teach me to open a bug with the rational of the revert... ;-) | 10:28 |
| seb128 | I also got upstream pinging me this morning saying they could provide a patch to fix the zoom level issues for us and that the new version auto-open the copy dialog which fixes some of the usability issues | 10:29 |
| seb128 | trying to loby a bit for us to do the update... | 10:30 |
| willcooke | oh, that's good news, thanks seb128 | 10:34 |
| willcooke | and thanks u/s | 10:34 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you think we should go back at updating then? ;-) | 10:35 |
| seb128 | (probably not because headerbar/lack of menus/some bugs in the new code that would require more work) | 10:35 |
| seb128 | but it's good for next cycle | 10:35 |
| willcooke | yeah, probably not | 10:35 |
| willcooke | but | 10:35 |
| willcooke | Its good that u/s still care enough | 10:36 |
| willcooke | to want to help us get up to date | 10:36 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I might upload the new nautilus has a nautilus3.18 source so users who want it/ubuntu GNOME can get it easily | 10:42 |
| Sweet5hark | great libreoffice 5.1 breaks against libcmis ... | 10:47 |
| Sweet5hark | (against the multiarched in proposed that is) | 10:48 |
| Laney | doko's going to have to fix that | 10:49 |
| willcooke | seb128, thanks | 10:50 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: so suggested timeline: 1/ wait for libcmis to be unfoobared b/ bump to libreoffice 5.1.0~rc3 in xenial as-is without multiarch c/ look into whatever multiarch options we have afterwards? | 10:58 |
| === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln | ||
| Laney | crap | 11:35 |
| Laney | just discovered the "storage" charm | 11:35 |
| Laney | totally could have used that for appstream :) | 11:35 |
| === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
| seb128 | Laney, :-/ | 12:33 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, those are options? I would go for the "do without multiarch" | 12:33 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: k | 12:36 |
| Laney | seb128: future opportunities for improvement ;-) | 12:45 |
| seb128 | yeah! | 12:45 |
| seb128 | k, I think I managed to make nautilus upstream happy enough with what we are doing ;-) | 12:46 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 12:46 |
| seb128 | seems like they share some of the concerns about 3.18 and they are likely to need/have patches similar to some we want (like for more zoom options) | 12:47 |
| seb128 | but 7.3 is at the end of the year | 12:47 |
| seb128 | they understand that our timing for the LTS is more tight and the decision we take then | 12:48 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yw! | 12:48 |
| === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks | ||
| pitti | bon week-end tout le monde ! je m'en vais | 13:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, bon w.e à toi également ! | 13:03 |
| seb128 | tu parts en w.e ? | 13:03 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, les derniers jours (et nuits) étaient trop longues | 13:03 |
| pitti | seb128: on va à Salzburg, pour un concert (Les Tambours du Bronx) et visiter la ville | 13:04 |
| pitti | seb128: tu les connais ? | 13:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, je voulais dire "est-ce que vous allez quelque part pour le w.e" | 13:04 |
| seb128 | oui je connais ;-) | 13:04 |
| pitti | some 15 guys drumming on oil barrels, it's awesome | 13:04 |
| seb128 | ils sont français | 13:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, have fun there! | 13:04 |
| pitti | oui, merci ! | 13:04 |
| * pitti m'enfuis à la gare | 13:05 | |
| doko | Sweet5hark, if you join common irc channels you don't have to write emails for short question ;p | 13:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, bon voyage en train ;-) | 13:05 |
| Sweet5hark | doko: it is all a secret ploy to make you join #ubuntu-desktop! | 13:06 |
| Sweet5hark | doko: anyway, whats your suggestion to go ahead? | 13:07 |
| doko | wait until the next publisher run | 13:08 |
| Sweet5hark | k | 13:09 |
| * Sweet5hark goes back to his 1.4GB snap package then... | 13:16 | |
| Laney | just had a bloke round to confirm that the water meter is indeed broken | 13:34 |
| Laney | turn tap on, numbers don't change - yep, it's broken | 13:34 |
| Laney | now I get to wait another $MANY_WEEKS for the real person to come round | 13:34 |
| Laney | yay for companies | 13:34 |
| seb128 | does it mean you don't get to pay for the water you use? ;-) | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:37 |
| Laney | I guess so! | 13:37 |
| * ogra_ wouldnt complain | 13:37 | |
| Laney | pool party anyone? | 13:37 |
| Laney | not that I have a pool | 13:37 |
| seb128 | :-) | 13:37 |
| Laney | but that doesn't matter | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | free showers ! | 13:37 |
| seb128 | but you have the sun and some sand right? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | and 30°C? | 13:38 |
| Laney | mmm, maybe the gas meter is broken too | 13:38 |
| Laney | free heating | 13:38 |
| seb128 | heh | 13:38 |
| Laney | there will totally be some way to get money back from me | 13:39 |
| Laney | like "we assume you used this much" | 13:39 |
| seb128 | tell them there is no way | 13:39 |
| seb128 | you were in Brussels | 13:39 |
| seb128 | didn't use anything! | 13:39 |
| Laney | I don't even have showers, can't you smell me?!?!?1?! | 13:40 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Not that I want to be a PITA, but you didn't forget bug #1539885, did you? ;) | 13:42 |
| ubot5` | bug 1539885 in trusty-backports "Please backport svtplay-dl 0.30.2016.01.10-1 (universe) from xenial" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1539885 | 13:42 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: I built it earlier | 13:42 |
| Laney | and then my terminal crashed(!!!!) | 13:42 |
| Laney | so I did actually forget because the tab got lost | 13:42 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ah, shit! | 13:43 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Btw, it was built in a PPA. Does that help? | 13:45 |
| Laney | kind of, but it's easy for me to build it anyway | 13:45 |
| Laney | I got it, no worries | 13:46 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok. | 13:46 |
| willcooke | wellll shit | 14:34 |
| willcooke | I've just tried inserting an SD card | 14:34 |
| willcooke | in to where I /thought/ the SD card reader was | 14:34 |
| willcooke | in fact is the pcmcia slot | 14:34 |
| willcooke | and now I can't get the card back out | 14:34 |
| willcooke | what a genius | 14:34 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: in case you still care for that on the 12.04 backports and if you are extremely bored, please see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83710 ... | 14:55 |
| ubot5` | bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 83710 in Impress "Insert Movie dialog appears and disappears [Hard to repro]" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:56 |
| qengho | willcooke: that might as well be a stone-tablet cuneform deciphering slot. | 15:10 |
| willcooke | qengho, ha!!! | 15:12 |
| willcooke | indeed | 15:12 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, I see :\ | 15:12 |
| alexarnaud | Re all! | 15:47 |
| Sweet5hark | "no space left on device" | 15:47 |
| * Sweet5hark exploded snappy. | 15:48 | |
| alexarnaud | I've follow the advices of robert_ancell about environment variable "DESKTOP_SESSION" and "$XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP" but I don't understand what it is do in Ubuntu to have "mate" as a value whereas on my Debian Sid system I've always lightdm | 15:50 |
| alexarnaud | What's is done in Ubuntu different than in Debian? | 15:51 |
| alexarnaud | In the mate.desktop I've the line "DesktopNames=MATE" | 15:52 |
| === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 | ||
| tjaalton | willcooke: sent the xserver CFT email.. -> EOW! :) | 16:30 |
| === popey_ is now known as popey | ||
| willcooke | \m/ thanks tjaalton | 16:31 |
| willcooke | happy weekend | 16:31 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| seb128 | Laney, I had almost forgotten about it, but what's the status of the webkit2 transition? still on your list for this cycle? | 17:08 |
| Laney | yes I was looking at it today | 17:08 |
| Laney | evolution is unseeded now | 17:08 |
| seb128 | did we check with corporate service or whoever want it that it's ok to demote it? | 17:08 |
| Laney | yes | 17:09 |
| seb128 | great :-) | 17:09 |
| seb128 | was there any remaining blockers? | 17:09 |
| Laney | reviews | 17:09 |
| Laney | testing s-c | 17:09 |
| Laney | nothing serious | 17:09 |
| seb128 | cool | 17:09 |
| seb128 | I'm going to try to do a few reviews next week then | 17:09 |
| Laney | neat | 17:10 |
| Laney | try ubiquity if you want | 17:10 |
| seb128 | k | 17:10 |
| seb128 | it's probably the less easy to test, but fine, for you I can do it ;-) | 17:10 |
| seb128 | it's only used for the slides? | 17:10 |
| Laney | you should be able to just dpkg -i in a live iso | 17:10 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:11 |
| Laney | going to rebase all the stuff on monday | 17:11 |
| seb128 | great | 17:11 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e everyone | 17:45 |
| willcooke | cya seb128 | 17:45 |
| * Laney tosses some patches at ximion | 17:51 | |
| willcooke | I'm off too | 17:55 |
| willcooke | gnight all | 17:55 |
| * Laney cries | 17:56 | |
| Laney | latest commit just made conflicts | 17:56 |
| Laney | fixed pushed PRed | 18:01 |
| Laney | goodnight! | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | there is nothing like good diplomacy to fix conflicts :) | 18:02 |
| ximion | Laney: I made some comments - sorry for not merging the patches right away | 18:35 |
| * ximion needs some more information on both | 18:35 | |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
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