[05:56] hi [07:08] morning all [07:39] Good morning [08:45] good morning desktopers [08:46] hey andyrock pitti [08:47] Good morning andyrock pitti seb128 ! [08:47] hey alexarnaud [08:53] Sweet5hark, hey, in case you didn't notice doko just did a libreoffice upload to xenial for multiarch bits, you might need to rebase your update/include those changes [08:59] morning all [09:01] hey willcooke [09:01] hey seb128, happy Friday :) [09:02] happy friday indeed! [09:03] seb128: urgh ... [09:03] morning Sweet5hark [09:03] Sweet5hark, yeah, doko can be annoying like that... [09:03] willcooke, all: moin! [09:03] Sweet5hark, we can also upload your update, reverting his changes and teaching him to work with others ;-) [09:05] yo [09:05] hey Laney, happy friday! [09:05] hi seb128 [09:05] happy friday to you too! [09:06] seb128: nah, doko did ask me cryptically to meet to talk about $something at FOSDEM and meeting at breakfast, I wrote him a mail suggesting to meet at 8:30-9:00 on monday to have a concrete, but that didnt work out apparently ... [09:06] (was having breakfast with Laney and larsu instead though then ...) [09:06] (seems like a better choice ;-) [09:07] hrhr [09:07] ahaha it fails to build [09:07] go doko! [09:07] * Sweet5hark grabs popcorn ... [09:07] Laney: link error in libsc? [09:08] configure: error: Package requirements (libcmis-0.5 >= 0.5.0) were not met: [09:09] ah, lol. [09:09] libcmis was bumped to the version that comes with LibreOffice 5.1 and LibreOffice 5.0 thus is unhappy ... [09:10] no [09:10] we have 0.5.0 since wily [09:10] but doko multiarched that lib yesterday :p [09:10] maybe something went wrong there [09:11] oh well, he does things without talking to others, he gets to debug things by himself then... [09:12] hmm. gotta see if my 5.1 package still builds against that then ... [09:12] haha [09:12] Laney, hide! [09:12] doko is pinging around now ;-) [09:13] * Laney trolls [09:13] :-) [09:13] ricotz: thanks for the hint on l10n isos btw, fixed that. [09:24] seb128, you don't happen to know if there's any C libraries for accessing dpkg / apt do you? They all seem to be Perl or C++ [09:24] Or marked as internal / will break at any time [09:24] robert_ancell, sorry I don't, that would be a mvo question but he doesn't seem around [09:26] Trevinho, andyrock https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/nux/nux.missing-header-file/+merge/285160 could you top-approve this? (it's just a missing header file unity complains about) [09:26] 1 line MP :) [09:34] * Sweet5hark build a 1.4GB snap yesterday. [09:37] (lets see if I win another "LibreOffice: based on technology breaking your toolchain since 1985!" t-shirt with that) [09:49] We have a winner for "The most ridiculous comment on the internet this week" [09:49] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-ship-with-older-nautilus-due-to-bugs-and-menubar-499962.shtml [09:53] willcooke: heh, the headline already sounded suspiciously like that when it flew by on g+ [09:53] People must read this stuff though [09:54] Oh, how about this [09:55] We set up a website where every time one of us or sil2100 eat a sandwich we write down what was in it [09:55] and then sell advertising on the site [09:55] Oh ooh! [09:55] willcooke: that said, them spambots start to tweet and share that old ridiculous "Ubuntu causes girl to drop of of college" FUD video again. [09:56] ha, I love that video [09:56] There was a video like that? uh [09:56] sil2100, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI [09:56] willcooke: seems someone is nervous about our recent PR. So our marketing is doing something right. [09:57] willcooke: I like the first comment: "I installed Linux on my machine and my life also went to shit. My computer now boots way too fast, I can't manage to get any adware or viruses installed, I have too much available ram, the package manager makes it way to easy to install software, I never have to deal with my computer taking an hour to do automatic updates and I didn't even get to pay for anything." [09:58] XD [10:28] willcooke, that's going to teach me to open a bug with the rational of the revert... ;-) [10:29] I also got upstream pinging me this morning saying they could provide a patch to fix the zoom level issues for us and that the new version auto-open the copy dialog which fixes some of the usability issues [10:30] trying to loby a bit for us to do the update... [10:34] oh, that's good news, thanks seb128 [10:34] and thanks u/s [10:35] willcooke, you think we should go back at updating then? ;-) [10:35] (probably not because headerbar/lack of menus/some bugs in the new code that would require more work) [10:35] but it's good for next cycle [10:35] yeah, probably not [10:35] but [10:36] Its good that u/s still care enough [10:36] to want to help us get up to date [10:42] willcooke, I might upload the new nautilus has a nautilus3.18 source so users who want it/ubuntu GNOME can get it easily [10:47] great libreoffice 5.1 breaks against libcmis ... [10:48] (against the multiarched in proposed that is) [10:49] doko's going to have to fix that [10:50] seb128, thanks [10:58] seb128: so suggested timeline: 1/ wait for libcmis to be unfoobared b/ bump to libreoffice 5.1.0~rc3 in xenial as-is without multiarch c/ look into whatever multiarch options we have afterwards? === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [11:35] crap [11:35] just discovered the "storage" charm [11:35] totally could have used that for appstream :) === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [12:33] Laney, :-/ [12:33] Sweet5hark, those are options? I would go for the "do without multiarch" [12:36] seb128: k [12:45] seb128: future opportunities for improvement ;-) [12:45] yeah! [12:46] k, I think I managed to make nautilus upstream happy enough with what we are doing ;-) [12:46] thx seb128 [12:47] seems like they share some of the concerns about 3.18 and they are likely to need/have patches similar to some we want (like for more zoom options) [12:47] but 7.3 is at the end of the year [12:48] they understand that our timing for the LTS is more tight and the decision we take then [12:48] willcooke, yw! === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks [13:02] bon week-end tout le monde ! je m'en vais [13:03] pitti, oh, bon w.e à toi également ! [13:03] tu parts en w.e ? [13:03] seb128: oui, les derniers jours (et nuits) étaient trop longues [13:04] seb128: on va à Salzburg, pour un concert (Les Tambours du Bronx) et visiter la ville [13:04] seb128: tu les connais ? [13:04] pitti, je voulais dire "est-ce que vous allez quelque part pour le w.e" [13:04] oui je connais ;-) [13:04] some 15 guys drumming on oil barrels, it's awesome [13:04] ils sont français [13:04] pitti, have fun there! [13:04] oui, merci ! [13:05] * pitti m'enfuis à la gare [13:05] Sweet5hark, if you join common irc channels you don't have to write emails for short question ;p [13:05] pitti, bon voyage en train ;-) [13:06] doko: it is all a secret ploy to make you join #ubuntu-desktop! [13:07] doko: anyway, whats your suggestion to go ahead? [13:08] wait until the next publisher run [13:09] k [13:16] * Sweet5hark goes back to his 1.4GB snap package then... [13:34] just had a bloke round to confirm that the water meter is indeed broken [13:34] turn tap on, numbers don't change - yep, it's broken [13:34] now I get to wait another $MANY_WEEKS for the real person to come round [13:34] yay for companies [13:37] does it mean you don't get to pay for the water you use? ;-) [13:37] yeah [13:37] I guess so! [13:37] * ogra_ wouldnt complain [13:37] pool party anyone? [13:37] not that I have a pool [13:37] :-) [13:37] but that doesn't matter [13:37] free showers ! [13:38] but you have the sun and some sand right? [13:38] and 30°C? [13:38] mmm, maybe the gas meter is broken too [13:38] free heating [13:38] heh [13:39] there will totally be some way to get money back from me [13:39] like "we assume you used this much" [13:39] tell them there is no way [13:39] you were in Brussels [13:39] didn't use anything! [13:40] I don't even have showers, can't you smell me?!?!?1?! [13:42] Laney: Not that I want to be a PITA, but you didn't forget bug #1539885, did you? ;) [13:42] bug 1539885 in trusty-backports "Please backport svtplay-dl 0.30.2016.01.10-1 (universe) from xenial" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1539885 [13:42] GunnarHj: I built it earlier [13:42] and then my terminal crashed(!!!!) [13:42] so I did actually forget because the tab got lost [13:43] Laney: Ah, shit! [13:45] Laney: Btw, it was built in a PPA. Does that help? [13:45] kind of, but it's easy for me to build it anyway [13:46] I got it, no worries [13:46] Laney: Ok. [14:34] wellll shit [14:34] I've just tried inserting an SD card [14:34] in to where I /thought/ the SD card reader was [14:34] in fact is the pcmcia slot [14:34] and now I can't get the card back out [14:34] what a genius [14:55] ricotz: in case you still care for that on the 12.04 backports and if you are extremely bored, please see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83710 ... [14:56] bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 83710 in Impress "Insert Movie dialog appears and disappears [Hard to repro]" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [15:10] willcooke: that might as well be a stone-tablet cuneform deciphering slot. [15:12] qengho, ha!!! [15:12] indeed [15:12] Sweet5hark, I see :\ [15:47] Re all! [15:47] "no space left on device" [15:48] * Sweet5hark exploded snappy. [15:50] I've follow the advices of robert_ancell about environment variable "DESKTOP_SESSION" and "$XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP" but I don't understand what it is do in Ubuntu to have "mate" as a value whereas on my Debian Sid system I've always lightdm [15:51] What's is done in Ubuntu different than in Debian? [15:52] In the mate.desktop I've the line "DesktopNames=MATE" === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [16:30] willcooke: sent the xserver CFT email.. -> EOW! :) === popey_ is now known as popey [16:31] \m/ thanks tjaalton [16:31] happy weekend === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [17:08] Laney, I had almost forgotten about it, but what's the status of the webkit2 transition? still on your list for this cycle? [17:08] yes I was looking at it today [17:08] evolution is unseeded now [17:08] did we check with corporate service or whoever want it that it's ok to demote it? [17:09] yes [17:09] great :-) [17:09] was there any remaining blockers? [17:09] reviews [17:09] testing s-c [17:09] nothing serious [17:09] cool [17:09] I'm going to try to do a few reviews next week then [17:10] neat [17:10] try ubiquity if you want [17:10] k [17:10] it's probably the less easy to test, but fine, for you I can do it ;-) [17:10] it's only used for the slides? [17:10] you should be able to just dpkg -i in a live iso [17:11] yeah [17:11] going to rebase all the stuff on monday [17:11] great [17:45] have a good w.e everyone [17:45] cya seb128 [17:51] * Laney tosses some patches at ximion [17:55] I'm off too [17:55] gnight all [17:56] * Laney cries [17:56] latest commit just made conflicts [18:01] fixed pushed PRed [18:01] goodnight! [18:02] there is nothing like good diplomacy to fix conflicts :) [18:35] Laney: I made some comments - sorry for not merging the patches right away [18:35] * ximion needs some more information on both === doko_ is now known as doko