cjwatson | pitti: Well, I was pretty sure it would be fine to sync it with clock-setup, where that code came from in the first place anyway | 00:17 |
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xnox | pitti, tah. | 04:00 |
xnox | mwhudson, infinity src:golang-1.5 =) | 04:02 |
Mirv | pitti: \o/ | 05:27 |
Mirv | that was very fast feature bring up | 05:27 |
xnox | pitti, cpr is needed for ppc64el on autopkgtest. Queues are piling up, and none are running. | 05:31 |
xnox | pitti, oh, they seem to be back alive | 06:09 |
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pitti | Good morning | 07:26 |
pitti | xnox: yep, looking; utlemming fixed the ppc64el images yesterday, but apparently that didn't make it into yesterday's | 07:28 |
pitti | xnox: at 0600 UTC the janitor cronjob runs which cleans up orphaned instances and restarts stuff, but it can't fix the reason for the ssh timeouts | 07:29 |
* pitti prods the armhf runners too | 07:29 | |
xnox | fun =/ | 07:30 |
pitti | there is some lxcfs lockup on armhf | 07:30 |
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pitti | utlemming: hm, apparently something changed in the underlying environment -- I can't boot wily ppc64el images any more either :/ | 07:59 |
pitti | utlemming: can you please trigger new ones for wily, vivid, and trusty too? | 07:59 |
pitti | utlemming: with yesterday's live-build fix, I mean | 07:59 |
pitti | utlemming: hm, actually, console-log doesn't show me *any* detected network card, so maybe that's unrelated | 08:00 |
pitti | PSA: disabling autopkgtesting on ppc64el, this is just broken | 08:08 |
pitti | Laney, wgrant, infinity ^ FYI -- collecting logs and filing RT | 08:08 |
pitti | apw: ^ affects your kernel tests, too | 08:08 |
rbasak | rharper: for Debian bug/patch submissions from your Ubuntu hat, please use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Usertagging - it helps when people complain that we don't contribute to Debian. | 08:14 |
rharper | rbasak: thanks | 08:15 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:17 |
pitti | utlemming: ok, unping -- eth0 exists, but it doesn't get a DHCP address, this is an IS problem | 08:19 |
roaksoax-brb | pitti: howdy! I'm seeing stuff like "maas-proxy.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it." all over for things that used to work last week.. any ideas why? my debian/rules: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14886037/ | 08:22 |
pitti | roaksoax-brb: no [Install] section? | 08:24 |
* pitti needs to leave for doctor appointment, back in ~ 1 h | 08:25 | |
doko | mitya57, building metacity I see: | 09:06 |
doko | dh_autoreconf | 09:06 |
doko | m4/glib-gettext.m4:39: error: m4_copy: won't overwrite defined macro: glib_DEFUN | 09:06 |
doko | m4/glib-gettext.m4:39: the top level | 09:06 |
doko | Laney, ^^^ | 09:07 |
Laney | doko: m4/, sounds like a toolchain problem :) :) :) :) | 09:13 |
doko | Laney, sure, it's called glib ;-P | 09:13 |
Laney | doko: I think you can delete that file since aclocal should get the system one | 09:15 |
Laney | it must be doing some kind of deduplication and that breaks since glib changed /u/s/aclocal/glib-gettext.m4 in a recent release | 09:16 |
Laney | previously m4/glib-gettext.m4 and the system one would have been identical | 09:16 |
Laney | you can copy one to the other to confirm this | 09:16 |
doko | that works | 09:22 |
Laney | see, toolchain problem! | 09:22 |
doko | starts with g* ... | 09:23 |
Laney | the macro was always defined twice | 09:23 |
Laney | aclocal was hiding this from us before | 09:24 |
Laney | happy fix anyway | 09:24 |
Laney | cjwatson: good work | 09:26 |
Mirv | pitti: otherwise going fine, but interestingly https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/retry.cgi?release=xenial&arch=amd64&package=qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu&trigger=qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles%2F5.5.1-2ubuntu4&ppa=ci-train-ppa-service%2Fstable-phone-overlay&ppa=ci-train-ppa-service%2Flanding-023 says "You are not allowed to upload qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu or qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles to Ubuntu, thus y | 09:41 |
Mirv | ou are not allowed to use this service." even those are both universe packages and I'm a MOTU | 09:41 |
Mirv | pitti: I was able to retry the same qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu tests under the non-gles qtdeclarative-opensource-src though | 09:42 |
xnox | cjwatson, i'm trying to figure out where and how built-using should be processed in germinate... It's a relationship declared on binary packages, but the values are source packages. I'm pondering if those sources' binaries should end up in extra. | 09:46 |
xnox | e.g. store them somewhere, and if binaries from those sources did not end up anywhere, add them into extra. | 09:46 |
xnox | or some such. | 09:46 |
pitti | Mirv: can you please file a bug against auto-package-testing? No off-hand idea right now, I'm afraid | 09:47 |
Mirv | pitti: ok, I was just filing a bug against bileto so there it is, bug #1542239. | 09:49 |
ubottu | bug 1542239 in Bileto "Unable to run some retries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1542239 | 09:49 |
roaksoax-brb | pitti: this is my debian/rules http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886246/ I'm definitely missing something then | 09:50 |
pitti | roaksoax-brb: what's the output of "systemctl status maas-proxy.service"? | 09:51 |
pitti | roaksoax-brb: but I suspect these overrides are wrong -- can you just drop them? dh_systemd_* should already enable all units in that package, and --name doesn't exist as an option AFAIK | 09:53 |
pitti | roaksoax-brb: sorry, --name does exist for dh_systemd_enable | 09:53 |
wgrant | pitti: ppc64el vbuilders are still working fine, so I guess the neutron2 dnsmasqs, or possibly just your dnsmasq, is/are dead. | 09:54 |
wgrant | We've been seeing some related issues on vbuilders over the past two weeks, but they only hit the occasional boot. | 09:54 |
pitti | wgrant: for me, I sometimes get bursts of failure mails where all of them failed, then it works again for half a day, etc. | 09:55 |
pitti | right now it's again not working at all | 09:55 |
xnox | cjwatson, failing to grasp what "build_tree" flag is | 09:55 |
xnox | too | 09:55 |
xnox | =( | 09:55 |
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mitya57 | doko, Laney, so what should I do in metacity? dh_clean that file? | 10:07 |
Laney | mitya57: I guess, not that sure why it is in m4/ | 10:08 |
Laney | aclocal --install I guess | 10:10 |
Laney | this is annoying | 10:10 |
doko | mitya57, for now, I just updated it | 10:12 |
cjwatson | xnox: build_tree basically means that germinate is processing something that it got to via a Build-Depends | 10:13 |
mitya57 | doko, I see, thanks | 10:14 |
Laney | mitya57: updating it is a bad idea for unstable atm, since it only changed in exp | 10:15 |
xnox | cjwatson, aha. right, i see that in adding all the things read from e.g. Build-Depends-Indep et.al. | 10:15 |
cjwatson | xnox: Built-Using presumably wants to be specifically not build_tree though, otherwise what's the point, it wouldn't change anything | 10:16 |
xnox | i'm now wondering, if i should add all sources, as if it was the source package of a given binary. Or, like, find intersction of binaries(produced by Built-Using sources) && binaries(build-depends) | 10:16 |
xnox | and then seed those binaries. | 10:17 |
cjwatson | I feel like adding all binaries would probably cause a bit too much explosion | 10:17 |
cjwatson | But getting the intersection is going to be really really really hard | 10:17 |
xnox | yeah. | 10:17 |
cjwatson | Because it might be transitive | 10:17 |
xnox | especially thanks to transitive build-deps. | 10:17 |
xnox | you type faster =) | 10:17 |
xnox | #not fair | 10:17 |
mitya57 | Laney, I hope new release will use upstream gettext, so there won't be m4/glib-gettext.m4 in tarball at all | 10:17 |
xnox | cjwatson, i shall study existing built-using for a bit. | 10:18 |
cjwatson | xnox: Maybe we just need to make sure it's annotated somewhere in germinate's output and then people can manually hike those up to seeds :-/ | 10:18 |
xnox | cjwatson, given my vision for the new world order. I would have them show up in components missmatches, as source-only promotion to main, with .dot graphs indicating that these are built-using src packages. | 10:19 |
xnox | cjwatson, and that way e.g. security team would know -> it's in main, source only -> it must be the crazy statically linked in thing into _everywhere_ | 10:19 |
pa | hello | 10:21 |
cjwatson | xnox: mm, causing Built-Using to include just the source but no binaries is probably quite a good way to handle this in germinate, indeed | 10:21 |
cjwatson | (well, no binaries unless something else includes them, of course) | 10:21 |
xnox | yeah. and transitive build-deps are not broken, because new-world-order. | 10:21 |
pa | are you guys still supporting the decision of having a windows7 alike ctrl-tab on ubuntu touch? | 10:21 |
xnox | pa, most people here have no idea about windows7, nor ctrl-tab =) and i think touch development is done in another channel, like #ubuntu-touch (?!) i can't recall. | 10:22 |
cjwatson | xnox: well, even then, Built-Using is roughly always a subset of Build-Depends | 10:22 |
pa | ok i try to ask there | 10:23 |
xnox | pa, do you have screenshots on the internet of this ctrl-tab thing? | 10:23 |
pa | i understand that in ubuntu desktop you already have plenty of problems ;) | 10:23 |
pa | yes i can find | 10:23 |
pa | sec | 10:23 |
pa | xnox, this counterproductive thing: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Ubuntu-Touch-RTM-Update-10-Important-Milestone-Achieved-Screenshot-Tour-466165-8.jpg | 10:24 |
mitya57 | On phones it's not ctrl-tab, but rather some gesture (I guess) :) | 10:25 |
pa | yes | 10:25 |
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pa | but on win7 it is :) | 10:25 |
xnox | pa, i totally misunderstood your question, i thought you were asking us to include something like that. | 10:26 |
pa | no i actually hope that to be dropped asap :) | 10:26 |
xnox | pa, anyway, such discussion is offtopic. And i think behaviour of those things is different on different form factors. I think on tablet/desktop things fly in expose mode, rather than in a carousel. Better ask in #ubuntu-touch. | 10:27 |
pa | i wish you guys won't end up like another firefoxOS :) | 10:27 |
pa | ok i tyr | 10:27 |
pa | try | 10:27 |
xnox | pa, this carousel design seems reasonabl-ish. | 10:27 |
pa | xnox, it | 10:27 |
pa | it's not just useless | 10:27 |
pa | it's counterproductive | 10:27 |
pa | a bloody simple matrix is 10.000 times better | 10:27 |
xnox | but it's *pretty* =) | 10:27 |
pa | yes it seems pretty when you arent using it | 10:27 |
xnox | i use terminal, emacs in the terminal and a web-browser. I don't see myself having more than two windows like ever =0 | 10:28 |
pa | well on a phone you might have multiple apps open at the same time | 10:28 |
pa | in particular because the app launch time on ubuntu phones is not small | 10:29 |
pa | like text app, mail app, calendar, browser, etc. | 10:29 |
pa | but i'll ask there | 10:29 |
xnox | pa, i don't use, have or develop ubuntu touch UX / UI at all. try #ubuntu-touch, it should have more people who are actually involved in that. | 10:32 |
xnox | people here are scewed towards core-platform development. | 10:33 |
rbasak | cjwatson: IIRC you once told me that in an Ubuntu merge Vcs-Browser should technically be changed to XSBC-Debian-Vcs or something, but I can't remember exactly what and my IRC log grep fails to find it. I've just received a merge request with this in the diff. Is there a normative thing that Ubuntu does here please? | 11:01 |
* rbasak found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XS-Vcs but that doesn't have the answer. | 11:04 | |
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cjwatson | rbasak: that links to a thread which ends up at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-March/023379.html, i.e. XS-Debian-Vcs-*, which is what I've always done | 11:19 |
cjwatson | rbasak: I don't remember if that was written down elsewhere | 11:19 |
cjwatson | (XSBC- is silly because this doesn't belong in .deb control files or .changes, but XS- is reasonable) | 11:20 |
rbasak | That's great, thanks. | 11:20 |
roaksoax-brb | pitti: tmaas-proxy.service: unrecognized service , the weird thing though, is that the overrides were working last week | 11:36 |
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marlinc | How 'breaking' would it be to run 16.04 as daily driver until its released as actual stable | 12:11 |
marlinc | I'll be using on a ZFS root so I can make snapshot to go back when something does go wrong | 12:12 |
marlinc | dasjoe, ^ how bad would you say it is? | 12:16 |
marlinc | I can just try it | 12:16 |
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xnox | marlinc, well, you will always get to keep both pieces =) | 12:31 |
marlinc | Glueing them together would definitely work | 12:33 |
dasjoe | marlinc: I try to stay on LTS releases, so you'll be on your own. Also, as of 15.10 I still prefer dajhorn's PPA to the official packages provided by cking, as dajhorn's PPA is at 0.6.5.4 and I'm not sure the official packages support rpools | 12:42 |
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marlinc | I've tried a rpool using the default packages in 16.04 on my USB. That appeared to work | 12:44 |
marlinc | Although I am unsure about GRUB2's ZFS feature flag support. I'm not sure if its in yet | 12:45 |
marlinc | Ah, yes. I was looking for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1530457 | 12:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1530457 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2: cherry-pick support for ZFS pool feature flags, bugfixes" [High,Fix released] | 12:46 |
seb128 | doko, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/236385287/libcmis_0.5.0-4ubuntu2_0.5.0-4ubuntu3.diff.gz ... did you forgot the actual change? | 12:49 |
seb128 | the diff only has a changelog entry | 12:49 |
doko | seb128, it's a permission change | 12:49 |
seb128 | oh ok | 12:49 |
seb128 | misleading changelog text :-) | 12:49 |
marlinc | When's the feature freeze? | 12:50 |
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marlinc | Wut, woop | 12:50 |
seb128 | marlinc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule | 12:51 |
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marlinc | Thanks! | 12:51 |
pitti | infinity, cjwatson: any known problem with teh ppc64el builders? I got a weird "chroot problem" complaining about some invalid zlib stuff on unpack, and now https://launchpadlibrarian.net/236387344/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.mbr_1.1.11-5ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 12:56 |
pitti | segfault during dpkg | 12:56 |
pitti | (retry worked) | 12:59 |
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cjwatson | pitti: happens every now and again, incidence is low enough that it's tolerable | 13:03 |
pitti | cjwatson: ok; I got it three times in 15 minutes, so it felt like something broke | 13:03 |
cjwatson | pitti: can you see why qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu on https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/xenial/landing-046/excuses.html is sad? it's installable in xenial | 13:07 |
smb | pitti, Speaking of odd things... have you ever had "TZ=UTC date" not print the date in UTC? Asking because somehow the Xenial image I seem to pull with adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud does exactly that and I think that causes the build-tests of libvirt which I try to run through adt to fail. Felling somewhat dumbfound. | 13:10 |
smb | (note that another Xenial VM which I manually installed works just like expected) | 13:12 |
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menace | hi, how big's the chance, that kernel 4.5 comes to 16.04? | 15:16 |
jrwren | eventually, very likely ;] | 15:18 |
menace | i meant on release (16.04.0) :-D | 15:18 |
michael-vb | Hello. Bad moment to ask, as I have to leave almost at once, but could someone take a look at this (development) question re unity-settings-daemon? | 15:18 |
michael-vb | https://answers.launchpad.net/unity-settings-daemon/+question/284461 | 15:18 |
michael-vb | Thanks in advance. | 15:18 |
roaksoax | pitti: this is weird, postinst scripts do end up with: # Automatically added by dh_systemd_start -> which actually tells the service to start | 15:19 |
roaksoax | pitti: but maas-rackd.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it. -> still shown in install | 15:20 |
roaksoax | pitti: and the service ends ujp being stopped | 15:20 |
jrwren | menace: i don't know, but i'd guess not likely | 15:21 |
menace | jrwren: i hear that from several sources... but if one wants to support an ubuntu lts edition and has to write own externel (3rd party) kernel modules for that release, a little bite more reliability would be nice =) or even factors where i can recognize, if it gets more likely.... but okay then, thanks for your time. | 15:31 |
jrwren | menace: I don't see the issue. gl hf | 15:34 |
marlinc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1542358 | 15:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1542358 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "GRUB does not include ZFS modules in EFI partition" [Undecided,New] | 15:37 |
cjwatson | marlinc: ah yes, fair point, will fix | 15:41 |
cyphermox | cjwatson: there's another bug for this | 15:43 |
cyphermox | ok, maybe not quite the same thing | 15:44 |
cyphermox | cjwatson: do you have anything against applying the changes from Chad in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1527727 too? | 15:45 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1527727 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-probe for zfs assumes all devices prefix with /dev, ignoring /dev/disk/..." [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:45 |
cjwatson | there's a different one about ZFS probing which will take a bit more thought | 15:45 |
cjwatson | I want to think about that patch :) | 15:45 |
cyphermox | yeah, that's really what I'm asking :) | 15:45 |
marlinc | Ah thanks for taking a look cjwatson :) Any idea what's causing it or what I can do to help? | 15:47 |
cjwatson | marlinc: just missing entries for those modules, I already committed a fix and uploaded to Debian | 15:48 |
marlinc | Very nice | 15:48 |
marlinc | I was told by someone that I had to test ZFS stuff on Xenial before feature freeze | 15:49 |
marlinc | I'm going all in by trying a rpool on Xenial | 15:50 |
marlinc | Can I follow it somewhere cjwatson? | 15:51 |
cjwatson | marlinc: follow what, sorry? | 15:52 |
marlinc | The Debian package, to see when it gets imported into Xenial for example | 15:53 |
cjwatson | marlinc: well it'll show up in xenial in a day or so, once everything gets processed and published and synced and built and published etc. | 15:53 |
marlinc | This is the first time I'm actually testing stuff for a new release so I've got no idea how those packages get handled between Debian and Ubuntu | 15:53 |
cjwatson | I'm not sure there's much that's desperately interesting to follow en route there :) | 15:54 |
marlinc | Okay :p | 15:54 |
marlinc | Is the patch available somewhere? | 15:54 |
cjwatson | but it's https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grub/grub.git/commit/?id=a293f3b3349327b4e25f5e4998753f05aa7144c3, it'll show up on https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/grub2 in a little bit, then on https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/grub2, then eventually on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2 | 15:55 |
marlinc | Ah interesting, thanks! | 15:55 |
pete-woods | mdeslaur: hi. I've been looking at getting gnome-keyring running on the phone for password storage, but initially it crashed in some of the ARM asm inside libgcrypt | 15:57 |
pete-woods | and as the only canonical person I recognise on the changelog for that project, was hoping you'd take a look at my MR | 15:57 |
pete-woods | https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/ubuntu/wily/libgcrypt20/disable-arm-asm-rijndael/+merge/284893 | 15:57 |
pete-woods | which basically just disables the ARM assembler for AES | 15:58 |
pete-woods | after this change, gnome-keyring functions correctly | 15:58 |
pete-woods | I'm happy to revise the patch to follow patch conventions (as you can see from the MR message, I was initially unsure if this change would even help :) ) | 15:59 |
mdeslaur | pete-woods: hrm, sure, one se | 16:01 |
pete-woods | thanks! | 16:06 |
mdeslaur | pete-woods: I think that makes sense, but please file a bug upstream about it | 16:09 |
mdeslaur | I don't see any further fixes in the git tree | 16:09 |
pete-woods | mdeslaur: okay, cool, will report the upstream bug | 16:12 |
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marlinc | cjwatson_, do you know of a way to fix my grub image so that the workaround can be avoided? | 16:19 |
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cjwatson | marlinc: since you're already running xenial, I don't think it's worth expending energy on thinking about workarounds | 16:25 |
cjwatson | marlinc: upgrade in a day or two instead :) | 16:25 |
marlinc | Okay :p | 16:29 |
smb | pitti, Ok, to answer my question about the weird date output in the adt test image... Something (not sure what and when) screwed up the zoneinfo, so /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC pointed to something wrong. Forcing a reinstall of tzdata in the disk image fixes the problem. | 16:30 |
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bdmurray | Does anybody know what the lxc error is here? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14888364/ | 16:37 |
dannf | doko: did you have anything queued for a gccgo-4.9 trusty SRU? you cool w/ me uploading for LP: #1542080? | 16:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1542080 in gccgo-4.9 (Ubuntu Trusty) "Needs tar/xattr support to build docker" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1542080 | 16:40 |
dannf | doko_: ^ | 16:40 |
doko_ | dannf, sure, go ahead | 16:41 |
dannf | doko_: thx | 16:41 |
dasjoe | cking: cjwatson: Thanks again for your work on our favorite file systemâ„¢! Now, let's get it into snappy ;) | 16:45 |
cking | were moving forward ;-) | 16:46 |
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pete-woods | mdeslaur: FYI, here is the upstream bug report for the libgcrypt crash: https://bugs.gnupg.org/gnupg/issue2242 | 17:14 |
pete-woods | okay, I gotta EOD and pick up kids | 17:16 |
pete-woods | thanks for your time! | 17:16 |
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jtaylor | is util-linux a package one can safely backport? | 18:31 |
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marlinc | Anyone running into issues with Rhythmbox and GStreamer? I'm getting the following error when trying to play a mp3 file. (21:21:14) [0x1dc1c40] [rb_shell_player_error] rb-shell-player.c:2443: playback error while playing: Problem occurred without error being set. This is a bug in Rhythmbox or GStreamer. | 20:21 |
marlinc | Playback does however work in the Videos app and in VLC | 20:21 |
marlinc | I've installed the codec as Video's asked for it | 20:21 |
marlinc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer1.0/+bug/1542471 | 20:30 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1542471 in gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "Playing mp3 files causes: Problem occurred without error being set. This is a bug in Rhythmbox or GStreamer." [Undecided,New] | 20:30 |
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marlinc | Interesting, when I now Google the issue I'm having with Rhythmbox I actually get my bug report as first result | 23:26 |
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