[00:00] <squinty> designbybeck,  fwiw, there has been a few rascals in here over the last few days experiencing problems with the "proposed" repo enabled
[00:00] <k1l> shibboleth: and you are again offtopic ranting in here.
[00:01] <shibboleth> k1l, me previous remarks vis-a-vis slow openssl updates were rants *and* offtopic?
[00:01] <tjhuntz> new to ubuntu
[00:02] <k1l> shibboleth: and you were plain wrong. and i didnt see you coming back and excusing.
[00:02] <shibboleth> k1l, wrong abou?
[00:02] <bazhang> !manual | tjhuntz
[00:02] <k1l> shibboleth: your accusations.
[00:03] <tjhuntz> ohh i got all that how to install themes from the terminal
[00:03] <usman> i am trying to install flash but i am getting this error  nspluginwrapper:i386 : Depends: libglib2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.35.9) but it is not going to be installed
[00:03] <headpool182> hello, hoping someone might be able to assist me with something. I need install a custom kernel due to poor foresight in gpu purchase.. running an AMD tonga GPU and i need to install a kernel phoronix compiled that has the correct switches on.
[00:03] <jmadero> usman: how did you try to install?
[00:03] <k1l> shibboleth: but this is leading nowhere. so just stop that attitude if you want to be able to use this support channel. you have been warned enough times now.
[00:03] <jmadero> usman: also note that flash is no longer supported in Linux - it was EOL some time ago
[00:04] <usman> jmadero,  i used a script from this website http://howtoelementaryos.org/how-to-install-flash-for-midori-in-elementary-os
[00:04] <jmadero> usman: are you running elementary or Ubuntu?
[00:05] <shibboleth> k1l, I don't realize what I might have done to warrant any resent. My mission was to inform "you" that there was an upcoming, critical update and get the ball rolling
[00:05] <usman> yes ele.. OS but its based on ubuntu so it should work
[00:05] <shibboleth> k1l, some months ago I had to file a bug for the package maintainer to realize that there was a need to update :)
[00:05] <jmadero> usman: that's not true and this isn't the right chat for you
[00:06] <jmadero> usman: you need to get elementary specific support
[00:06] <jmadero> usman: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-adobe-flash-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[00:06] <k1l> shibboleth: you have a very malicious attitude and just ranted about ubuntu beeing always 2 weeks late. if that is not what you meant then choose your words _a lot_ wiser next time.
[00:06] <jmadero> usman: that's how to install it in Ubuntu - if it fails it's because elementary repos don't have the right dependencies
[00:07] <jmadero> and as far as Midori browser is concerned....that is an elementary question
[00:07] <shibboleth> k1l, not what I meant, then. Sorry if I contributed to a different impression
[00:07] <k1l> usman: please see the elementary support for help
[00:07] <usman> ii will try this but even if it cna work in firefox thats fine too
[00:08] <shibboleth> k1l, also, I said those updates come over the weekend and not on thursday/friday when upstream and debian updates were made available. Not two weeks :)
[00:08] <aeg1s> Hi.  Can anyone help me with an iptables problem?  I have all traffic on a specific interface forwarded to the tun0 interface by this rule "-A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o tun0 -j ACCEPT"  however, I have one website I need to have wlan0 using eth0 to access...  Any suggestions how to set that up?
[00:08] <shibboleth> s/come/came
[00:08] <usman> jmadero, let see if this workss
[00:08] <jmadero> usman: good luck
[00:08] <squinty> usman,  might want to consider using chrome/chromium for flash video instead of ff
[00:08] <jmadero> or avoid flash sites entirely :-b
[00:08] <shibboleth> squinty, FF has their own flash emulator now, iirc?
[00:08] <k1l> shibboleth: and that was plain wrong, too.
[00:08] <Majora320> hello world
[00:09]  * Majora320 says Hello world.
[00:09] <squinty> shibboleth,  not on my current ff version.  unless there is something I am not aware of
[00:09] <usman> squinty, i havee that installed as well, i want to get rid of flash i am preparing this mechain for someone else and he needs flash to play videos on some website
[00:10] <Majora320> can u help me? im trying to partition my flash drive for ubuntu installation (from ubuntu; the installer isn't working) how should I partition it?
[00:11] <jmadero> Majora320: use unetbootin and it'll do it for you
[00:11] <k1l> Majora320: use the ubuntu disk creator
[00:11] <Majora320> it dosnt work
[00:11] <k1l> Majora320: or use "dd"
[00:11] <Majora320> dd
[00:11] <Majora320> k
[00:11] <Majora320> ill try
[00:11] <jmadero> dd wont' trigger flags for bootable
[00:12] <EvilDust> good evening
[00:12] <k1l> jmadero: that is wrong. dd works very well with ubuntu hybrid isos
[00:12] <aeg1s> Hi
[00:12] <Majora320> well what i did was partitioned the device as EFI legacy bootable and wrote the ubuntu iso to it
[00:12] <jmadero> k1l: interesting, didn't know dd would trigger the bootable flag
[00:12] <Majora320> and it didnt work
[00:12] <jmadero> Majora320: what command did you put?
[00:13] <Majora320> i used the GUI disk partitioner
[00:13] <k1l> Majora320: you dont partition yourself. that should make the usb creator
[00:13] <jmadero> Majora320: is the drive mounted?
[00:13] <Majora320> yes
[00:13] <jmadero> Majora320: for disk partitioning it can't be mounted
[00:13] <Majora320> well not while partitioning
[00:13] <Majora320> it wasnt
[00:14] <Majora320> my bios says a file is missing
[00:14] <Majora320> 'vmlinux.bin' or something simlar
[00:15] <jmadero> Majora320: please give exact errors
[00:15] <jmadero> "or something" is entirely unhelpful
[00:15] <Majora320> ok but i dont feel like rebooting now
[00:15] <Majora320> to get into my bios
[00:16] <shibboleth> k1l, clearly I've made assertions vis-a-vis openssl updates which you have found to be false. Am I correct in my understanding?
[00:17] <Majora320> is there a 'bios emualtor'?
[00:17] <shibboleth> Majora320, seabios
[00:18] <k1l> shibboleth: your way of "motivating people to get rolling" is malicious. and your facts were wrong accusations. and the fix you demanded (before the fix was published) was shipped on the same or the next day. so you made a big noise for nothing.
[00:18] <Majora320> what site can i get seabios from?
[00:18] <Majora320> oh its a package
[00:18] <designbybeck_> squinty, Yep That fixed it! I had to download those files on my laptop and move them over and install them. Thank You Again!
[00:19] <aeg1s> I tried putting "iptables -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -d 23.66.192.45 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT
[00:19] <aeg1s> " and it doesn't give an error but doesn't work..
[00:19] <aeg1s> It's causing quite a problem
[00:19] <squinty> designbybeck,   great to hear! :-)
[00:19] <shibboleth> k1l, sorry to have offended you. I was referring to for example 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.16 which came three days after upstream fixes. I could list the to other to which I was referring, but can we please just "reset"?
[00:20] <shibboleth> well, four days, but same point
[00:20] <Majora320> what are seabios's commands?
[00:21] <aeg1s> Does the iptable I created not have enough priority to ever execute since the previous iptable is already setup?
[00:21] <k1l> shibboleth: yes. please stick to technical support in here and stop that offtopic and rantings. then everything is fine.
[00:21] <bazhang> shibboleth, take this to an offtopic channel
[00:22] <Majora320> WHAT COMMANDS DOES SEABIOS USE
[00:23] <bazhang> Majora320, thats not an ubuntu issue
[00:24] <k1l> Majora320: dont make own parititions on that usb. let the usb creator handle it or use dd to burn onto the bare usb.
[00:28] <aeg1s> I actually just created a note iptables-restore file and put those forwards higher up...  they are listed first now, but still don't execute.
[00:28] <usman> does anyone know support IRC channel for elementary OS
[00:29] <bazhang> !elementary | usman
[00:31] <usman> thanks to everyone
[00:34] <aeg1s> very cool
[00:37] <aeg1s> So which channel has people who can help with iptables?  (#iptables is invite only and non resposive)
[00:37] <aeg1s> Just need to get this fixed
[00:37] <shibboleth> aeg1s, #netfilter
[00:39] <aeg1s> shibboleth, thank you
[00:40] <Majora320> hello world
[00:40] <Majora320> 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupted'
[00:40] <Majora320> the error i get whenever i try to boot ubuntu from my flash drive
[00:40] <Majora320> any1 have a suggestion
[00:41] <shibboleth> Majora320, how did you make that flashdrive?
[00:42] <Majora320> i manually partitioned it and wrote the iso
[00:43] <LambdaComplex> Majora320: perhaps you should use something besides isolinux?
[00:43] <Majora320> wat do u mean?
[00:44] <shibboleth> Majora320, unetbootin, just write the iso to the flashdrive with dd, etc
[00:44] <Majora320> ok
[00:44] <Majora320> ill try that
[00:46] <squinty> Majora320,   good info at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/  too
[00:46] <Bray90820> Can i install unity on ubuntu touch so i can basically have a desktop experience on my tablet
[00:47] <Majora320> sudo dd if=ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc1, right?
[00:47] <Bray90820> Majora320: were you talking to me?
[00:47] <Majora320> ja
[00:47] <Majora320> no
[00:47] <Bray90820> Alright
[00:48] <Majora320> i was talking to shibboleth
[00:48] <Bray90820> Ok
[00:48] <squinty> Bray90820,  #ubuntu-touch  might be an option where to ask
[00:48] <shibboleth> Majora320, no
[00:48] <shibboleth> dd if=file of=/dev/sdX
[00:48] <Majora320> +shibboleth sudo dd if=ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc1, right?
[00:49] <Bray90820> squinty: I did ask there but that channel is next to dead
[00:49] <squinty> Majora320,  make sure you are in the directory where the iso resides before you use that command
[00:49] <shibboleth> Majora320, don't write to a part, write to the driver
 dd if=file of=/dev/sdX
[00:49] <Majora320> oh
[00:49] <shibboleth> s/driver/drive
[00:50] <Majora320> so of=/dev/sdc
[00:50] <shibboleth> yes
[00:50] <Majora320> ok
[00:50] <Majora320> thx
[00:50] <Majora320> command running...
[00:50] <Majora320> and runnning...
[00:50] <Majora320> OMG WTF
[00:50] <Majora320> ITS STILL RUNNING!!!
[00:50] <shibboleth> Majora320, remember "sudo sync" before unplugging it
[00:51] <Majora320> sudo sync
[00:51] <shibboleth> Majora320, yes, several gigs
[00:51] <Majora320> that writes the dd buffer to the drive, right?
[00:51] <shibboleth> Majora320, it makes sure that everything has been written, yes
[00:52] <Majora320> bit.ly/0000
[00:53] <Majora320> how long will dd take?
[00:54] <shibboleth> Majora320, depends on the flashdrive
[00:54] <Majora320> is kingston 'data travler' G2
[00:54] <shibboleth> kill -SIGUSR1 process will tell you
[00:56] <Majora320> shoulda done 'time dd if=ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc'
[00:57] <Majora320> http://bit.ly/1iRMqII
[00:58] <Majora320> MOST MLG LINK >>> http://bit.ly/1iRMqII
[01:07] <ubuntu4155> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and it seems that some of the indicators on my status bar such as the network indicator have disappeared. Anyone know how to restore them?
[01:10] <alicef> is there a way to get apt-cache show using different language?
[01:11] <alicef> i changed locale to different locale but the language is same
[01:11] <alicef> echo $LANG ja_JP.UTF-8
[01:12] <ubuntu> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and it seems that some of the indicators on my status bar such as the network indicator have disappeared. Anyone know how to restore them?
[01:12] <squinty> ubuntu4155,  might want to check the following out.  there has been some problems with users having the "proposed" repository enabled.   http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet
[01:13] <alicef> now apt-cache --help description is in japanese
[01:13] <Guest97202> squinrt, thanks, ill give it a try
[01:13] <alicef> but if i do apt-cache show apt
[01:13] <alicef> i get english
[01:14] <jayjo> if I run user@ip and I connect, does it mean I'm using my public key that is located in a standard location? I don't have this ip in my config in .ssh
[01:17] <squinty> alicef,  might want to check out the command   sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:18] <alicef> squinty: i did also that
[01:19] <alicef>   ja_JP.UTF-8... up-to-date
[01:19] <jayjo> I believe I added my relevant keys to ssh-agent with ssh-add, now I'd like to tunnel a postrgres connection through this server, how can I retrieve the information I use to connect?
[01:24] <stacks88> im trying to add a second IP to my ubuntu 14.04 server. my provider told me to add into the interfaces file like this: http://pastebin.com/raw/meZJNBrp so i did, but now when i run service networking restart, i get
[01:24] <stacks88> stop: Job failed while stopping
[01:24] <stacks88> start: Job is already running: networking
[01:25] <squinty> alicef, this page might be worth a read  http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=30507
[01:25] <stacks88> so how should i bring pu the new ip? should i just ifdown eth0:1 && ifup eth0:1 ?
[01:32] <its_a_unix> Is there anything I need to be careful of when running an OpenVPN server on my own personal computer?
[01:46] <alicef> squinty: https://gist.github.com/aliceinwire/dd312d8e22ce5344b739
[01:47] <alicef> i did same things yesterday
[01:47] <alicef> it dosen't work
[01:47] <alicef> i already read that
[02:01] <Snakke> hi
[02:03] <SomeDamnBody> Hey if someone was implementing an mmap callback on an SMP based linux kernel, can they cause an mmap call to block temporarily while another mmap call completes?
[02:08] <D1kMeal> Google Code-In is complete, correct?
[02:15] <headpool182> hello, i have a gigabyte 970a-D3P motherboard that loses functionality in linux. It used to be fixable with enabling software iommu in grub, but that doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know a work around? I'd like to have all my USB and NIC ports
[02:16] <otto666> hello
[02:16] <Omega_DarkPotato> Hi
[02:17] <otto666> this the ubuntu channel or ?
[02:17] <Omega_DarkPotato> Yeah
[02:18] <Omega_DarkPotato> It's suprisingly silent
[02:18] <sruli> got a problem booting my gnome 15.10, i only get as far as "(initramfs)" i booted livecd and ran "update-initramfs -k all -c" it was complaining about "invalid line in /etc/crypttab for luks" , i checked the crypttab, it seems fine, how can i fix this?
[02:18] <otto666> thanks first time on irc , i try a IOS iRC Client name "iRC999"
[02:19] <D1kMeal> anyone here did ubuntu gci?
[02:20] <tsimonq2> D1kMeal: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <otto666> hi i back
[02:32] <homa_> hi my friends
[02:35] <Guest15053> hello
[02:36] <homa_> Guest15053, hi
[02:37] <Guest15053> hey what is all this im new lol
[02:47] <tats> hi, i have a problem when trying to write on sdcards on my system. whenever i try to write on a card it says that the file system is readonly. i have verified the hardware lock pin (tried in both positions). i have tried to run "hdparm -r0 /dev/mmcblk0". i have tried with several sdcards: i actually just bought a brand new one thinking maybe the others were fried: but I get the same result.
[02:48] <tats> any hints? i have done a lot of research on the forums online but couldn't find any other suggestions that the ones i already tried.
[02:51] <tats> running ubuntu 15.10 btw (sorry should have mentioned)
[02:53] <raleigh> hi, how do i disable the right click ("menu") button?
[02:54] <raleigh> or override the default behavior so i can assign it to something else
[03:41] <booyah> Hi, I wonder if there's a problem with Ubuntu's update manager: I've set it to show me LTS updates only, and it's showing me that 16.04 is available. I hope unsuspecting LTS users are not induced to upgrade to an alpha version!
[03:42] <booyah> Anybody around?
[03:43] <ariel_04> does anybody know how to use the cd command?
[03:43] <booyah> cd <directory_name>
[03:43] <ariel_04> it doesnt work
[03:43] <ariel_04> it keeps saying no such directory
[03:44] <Majora320> Hello, world!
[03:44] <booyah> Then you're typing the directory name incorrectly. Note: names are case sensitive and 'spaces' are entered in non-obvious ways
[03:44] <ariel_04> oh okay i go it
[03:44] <ariel_04> it just didnt need the slashes
[03:45] <booyah> I don't quite understand, but so long as it works :-)
[03:45] <Majora320> When I try to boot 60-bit ubuntu from a flash drive, it says: "Unable to boot. Please use a kernel as appropriate for your CPU." Any suggestions?
[03:45] <Majora320> *64-bit
[04:14] <moonpunter> try 32-bit
[04:14] <moonpunter> first suggestion
[04:14] <moonpunter> and kindly report back
[04:15] <rabbitdew> [1;3D[1;3D[C[D
[04:15] <rabbitdew> [D
[04:15] <artois> & how
[04:15] <moonpunter> for the most part many packages still have 32-bit support
[04:15] <artois> so what if they do
[04:15] <moonpunter> in other cases you still have source to compile from, and it's RELATIVELY trivial swapping out libs or w/e
[04:16] <moonpunter> even after more mainstream distros move away from 32-bit altogether, there will be step-children that continue 32-bit support for years to come, i predict
[04:18] <artois> step children? :p
[04:53] <justrohu> Hello everyone I am new to ubuntu ... how do I get the list of all cronjobs running for all users in my machine
[05:00] <artois> justrohu: for user in $(ls /home/); do crontab -u "$user" -l; done
[05:00] <artois> for user in $(cut -d ':' -f 1 /etc/passwd); do crontab -u "$user" -l; done
[05:00] <artois> etc.
[05:01] <artois> for user in $(ls /home/) root; do crontab -u "$user" -l; done is probably all I'd concern myself with
[05:02] <justrohu> artois, I did check for every user by doing sudo -i and after this sudo crontab -u username -l but found nothing
[05:02] <dylygs> i'm working on this laptop for a colleague who screwed it up somehow because he couldn't figure out how to get it to boot unity rather than gnome, since he doesn't know linux really. i'm not sure exactly what he did, but the result is that unity now seems to be including elements from gnome i can't get rid of
[05:02] <artois> justrohu: yeah can't help with sudo, I don't abuse it the way Ubuntu does
[05:03] <dylygs> like, the top bar has the black gnome classic look, as does the right click menu. i've tried reinstalling unity, and i can't find anything else on the internet on how to fix this
[05:03] <justrohu> artois,
[05:03] <artois> presumably sudo foo.sh with foo.sh having contents being what I pasted would work
[05:03] <justrohu> artois, ok ... how do I find out if there is any cron job still schedules or to be schedules in my system
[05:04] <artois> justrohu: just list them and read them
[05:04] <justrohu> artois, how?
[05:04] <xangua> dylygs: can you make a screen capture? Any PPAs?
[05:04] <dylygs> xangua, sure, i can do a screengrab
[05:06] <artois> justrohu: crontab -u $user -l
[05:07] <dylygs> xangua, https://a.uguu.se/jlqgdt.png
[05:07] <poutine> charge your damn battery dylygs
[05:07] <justrohu> artois, ok
[05:07] <dylygs> poutine, it's plugged in
[05:08] <dylygs> :^)
[05:08] <xangua> dylygs: don't see nothing wrong, it looks like a different theme as well as icons
[05:11] <dylygs> xangua, as you can see, i'm not an ubuntu user... i wasn't aware of the whole themes thing
[05:11] <dylygs> that seemed to fix it, though. i just need to check it with this other laptop i have to make sure they're exactly the same
[05:12] <xangua> Right clic, appearance
[05:13] <dylygs> xangua, yeah, i got to the settings menu and changed it from adwaita to something else
[05:13] <dylygs> ambiance
[05:13] <justrohu> artois, I just created the shell and it is working but I could not see any cron scheduled ... if there any another way we can set cron
[05:13] <justrohu> artois, *is
[05:14] <artois> justrohu: how many ways do you need?
[05:14] <artois> ^rhetorical, you only need one
[05:15] <justrohu> atrius, sorry I don't have any knowledge about crons and ubuntu. the issue is on machine a cron is set to shut it down but I could not find it where it is
[05:16] <justrohu> artois, I checked every user but could not find it
[05:18] <artois> justrohu: sudo crontab -l
[05:19] <justrohu> artois, I just did it .. sorry same result could not find any cron command scheduled
[05:20] <artois> justrohu: what makes you think there's a cron job to shut it down?
[05:22] <justrohu> well I did this last -x|grep shutdown | head -1 and found out that system what turned off at 1830 and that's the time when cron was suppose to run
[05:22] <justrohu> artois,  well I did this last -x|grep shutdown | head -1 and found out that system what turned off at 1830 and that's the time when cron was suppose to run
[05:24] <BlackDalek> can someone help me with installing ubuntu 15.10 on new laptop? It keeps giving me "grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/"
[05:25] <BlackDalek> then it crashess
[05:25] <artois> justrohu: could maybe try egrep -ir 'shutdown|halt' /etc/cron*
[05:25] <artois> might not be a cron job causing it, though
[05:26] <justrohu> artois, ok
[05:27] <justrohu> artois, sorry could not find anything
[05:30] <BlackDalek> I am trying to install single boot OS. But installer keeps crashing with "grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/" error. BIOS is set up for non-UEFI booting.
[05:37] <BlackDalek> I am not trying to install from USB. I am installing Ubuntu from DVD drive. How do I get past the error "grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/"?
[05:37] <artois> BlackDalek: usb would be advisable
[05:38] <BlackDalek> I am not trying to dual boot OS. I have a blank clean system.
[05:38] <artois> BlackDalek: usb would be advisable, still
[05:40] <BlackDalek> artois, will install from USB fix the grub-efi-amd64 error?
[05:40] <artois> quite possibly
[05:53] <dylygs> alright, new problem, this time with the supposed working reference laptop. it seems to have very slow graphics, with the the only resolution option being 1024x768. it's the same machine as the other one, and they're both using the same drivers and everything
[05:54] <dylygs> i would have thought it's a driver issue, but lshw -c video on both machines tells me they're both using fglrx_pci
[05:58] <dylygs> also, it seems like on both machines, sometimes they boot up and the keyboard and trackpad doesn't work; the usb mouse does though
[06:00] <skweek> why doesn't my background change
[06:01] <skweek> the only times that it changes is when I press the meta key
[06:03] <dylygs> alright, reinstalling fglrx seems to have fixed the graphics
[06:17] <homa_> hi my friends
[06:22] <in_deep_thought> is this up to date? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[06:22] <in_deep_thought> I assume things on the ubuntu website are. Is that a bad assumption?
[06:25] <Flannel> in_deep_thought: the community section of the wiki is just that, a wiki.  Some pages are more ... well trodden, than others.  It looks like that page was last updated for 14.10.  Which isn't too bad, but still is a year old.  (And it mentions that it doesn't work on 14.10 or later)
[06:25] <skweek> hi ubuntu folks@
[06:26] <skweek> anyone know what malfunctions cause the wallpaper not to show up?
[06:26] <Flannel> in_deep_thought: With that said, 15.10 and what will become 16.04 both appear to have openCV in the repositories.
[06:28] <Flannel> in_deep_thought: Actually, looking at it further, it looks like a good number of ubuntu versions have openCV in the repository.  I just picked a bad example the first time.
[06:31] <guspar> how do you do? I'm from indonesia
[06:32] <guspar> exit
[06:32] <stashb0x> looking for some advise on installing a mail server gateway to scan for spam and viruses. Any ideas?
[06:33] <stashb0x> Using a Windows pop and Exchange server for the actual mail system
[06:44] <satay> Hello everyone i just tried to install QGifer on Ubuntu 15.04 and had an error  on software center - "cannot install libopencv-core2.4.i386". what's the problem?
[06:44] <OerHeks> satay, vivid went EOL yesterday
[06:44] <OerHeks> !vivid
[06:45] <kaiza> !wily
 so what should i do? i'm newbie
[06:46] <OerHeks> upgrade?
[06:46] <LonelyDanbo> any idea why process "tumblerd" {used to generate thumbnails} is accessing my HD so heavily for so long that it locks up other programs, when the only issues I'm finding in search results are due to large video files, but that's not what I'm downloading?
[06:47] <LonelyDanbo> The issue I'm finding says it uses large amount of CPU, but mine isn't. The HDD use is enough to freeze the game I run in Wine for the 5 or so minutes it does this for.
[06:49] <LonelyDanbo> maybe someone could just give me advice on what search words to use, since I seem to be eternally retarded. Seriously, I grew up on BBSes and the early internet and I've never been able to master web searches.
[06:53] <LonelyDanbo> What's that? I should eat oatmeal chocolate chip cookies until I'm sick? Well, I don't see how that would help with my COMPUTER, but I guess I'll try it.
[06:56]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[06:58] <homa_> good by my friends
[07:02] <satay> Guys i try to update ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 and when i go to updater he tells me "failed to download repository information. check you internet connection. Help pls
[07:05] <rww> !eolupgrade
[07:06] <rww> second link
[07:14] <Dylan____> How do i install the mint image writer on ubuntu?
[07:21] <OerHeks> Dylan____, mint image writer? not in our repos, ask in the mint channel maybe?
[07:22] <OerHeks> our disks utility can do image writing too, cd/dvd/usb
[07:28] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:28] <Dylan____> My usb is not being mounted im running 15.10
[07:28] <Dylan____> Its a lexar 3.0
[07:29] <coolstar-pc> anyone know if the mainline 4.5.0 rc2 kernel has this patch in it? https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/c67566c6a1dc0dd0309a54e63656e57050cbb9fe
[07:29] <Dylan____> And it mounted before but now its not been seen
[07:29] <coolstar-pc> that patch is needed for the touch screen on my laptop to work
[07:33] <Dylan____> Someone help me?
[07:33] <Marauder> gso: Just starting here myself, what do you need?
[07:33] <hateball> Dylan____: Are you talking about an external drive?
[07:33] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:33] <Dylan____> USB
[07:34] <Dylan____> Like it appears on the disks thing
[07:34] <hateball> Dylan____: run "dmesg" in a terminal right after you plug it in. Most likely it will say it was uncleanly unmounted
[07:34] <Dylan____> But not on the desktop nor nautilaus
[07:34] <hateball> Dylan____: Assuming this is a drive with NTFS partition(s)
[07:34] <Dylan____> Im formatted with ntfs
[07:35] <Dylan____> And still doesnt show up
[07:35] <hateball> Dylan____: And what does dmesg say?
[07:35] <Dylan____> Nvm i got it running again
[07:35] <Dylan____> Dont know what happened
[08:33] <auzty> i'm using ubuntu 14.04 , i got notification from sofware updater, so i update it, after that, i restart it, but my lightdm didn't start automatically
[08:34] <auzty> i must start it manually by using sudo service lightdm start to see login screen,
[08:34] <auzty> how to solve it?
[08:35] <auzty> i already do 1. dpkg-reconfigure lightdm , 2. apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[08:42] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i
[08:53] <ubuntu441> Hi, By default my mobile broadband is not enabled in ubuntu 12.04
[08:53] <ubuntu441> How to enable it
[08:53] <ubuntu441> Anybody can suggest
[08:55] <XATRIX> Hi guys, there's a problem with my laptop. I'm using 4.0.0 PF kernel, but i started to have problems with my WLAN adapter (brmcms kernel module). So i installed kernel-image-4.2.0... and after reboot, i have shitty video resolution, my usb mouse initialized but doesn't want to move on screen. touchpad is still functional
[08:55] <XATRIX> Also there's no way to change the current resolution of the display. There's only one option 800x600 in display setting
[08:57] <XATRIX> kernel-image-4.2.0 i took from the offical ubuntu repo
[08:57] <nocontrol> is anyone using foreman with upstart for rails projects ? I am exporting to services but I get a message "No such file or directory" when trying to start it
[09:03] <ubuntu441> Hi Guys, Mobile broadband is not enabled by default. Any suggestions
[09:04] <arlekin> hello world
[09:05] <Spitfire5> Hello! How to always start pcmanfm with duble columns mode?
[09:05] <arlekin> could anyone help me with my hibernation issue ? namely i can't achieve proper 'dehibernation' i get resume error on startup - and weirdly enough on EVERY startup :/
[09:07] <Spitfire5> no me, excuse
[09:08] <arlekin> Spitfire5: no worries, thanks for attention anyway ;)
[09:09] <prova> ciao
[09:25] <Silenced> Guys ? Will resetting Windows 10 remove its dual boot ? I mean the ubuntu and data ?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: do you have a dualboot right now?
[09:26] <lichen> ?
[09:26] <Silenced> Yes
[09:27] <Silenced> lotuspsychje^
[09:27] <Guest67495> who change my name as Guest
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: depends what you mean by resetting
[09:28] <Guest67495> 谁会说中文
[09:29] <DJones> !cn | Guest67495
[09:29] <Guest67495> 好吧
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Silenced check here mate
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: things can mess up grub, depending what your gonna be doing
[09:31] <Silenced> Okay
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: why dont you completely switch over to ubuntu?
[09:31] <arlekin> hi there - i don't have .ssh folder in my home and i'd like to have my old key (new install) simple copypasting of old .ssh doesn't work, and i frankly forgot how to set the whole thing up
[09:31] <arlekin> and advice ?
[09:32] <k1l_> arlekin: just make a .ssh folder and copy the files from the old folder there
[09:32] <Silenced> lotuspsychje : I was using ubuntu these days . But I wasn't able to install steam in ubuntu
[09:32] <arlekin> k1l_: i did, but it doesn't seem to work
[09:32] <Silenced> So I installed windows a week ago
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: did you setup the right graphics driver? there is also #steam and #gamingonlinux to help you
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !steam > Silenced
[09:33] <hateball> Silenced: Enable partner repo and install Steam that way rather than using deb from valve
[09:33] <Silenced> lotuspsychje : tried everything
[09:33] <k1l_> arlekin: can you show a "ls -al ~/.ssh" in a pastebin and link it here?
[09:34] <Silenced> Almost spent a week in it
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: see what hateball recommends, tried that?
[09:35] <Silenced> Okay will try that . First I need to ensure ubuntu is not deleted . This shit windows take a lot of time to load :/
[09:35] <hateball> Silenced: The first run of Steam will fetch needed dependencies
[09:35] <hateball> Other than that, it should "just work"
[09:36] <Silenced> Hateball . I guess we spoke about this in the steam channel few days back
[09:37] <hateball> Silenced: Memory is fickle
[09:38] <Silenced> I remember . And tried what you said
[09:38] <arlekin> k1l_: https://dpaste.de/EWFy
[09:38] <BenSolo> Hello having an issue getting easytether pro working with 15.10 if you look here it has me add a line to a file. http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android_faq.html#linuxsetup
[09:39] <BenSolo> Does it literally mean to add source-directory ?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: how about you tell us what kind of errors you encountered while trying everything?
[09:39] <BenSolo> Or am I to put some directory here?
[09:39] <hateball> Silenced: after you've installed it, run steam-launcher which will fetch extra packages. That should be all there is to it
[09:39] <Silenced> Give me 10 mins . I will shoot you the errors :)
[09:40] <k1l_> arlekin: you copied as root. that is not necessary in your users home.
[09:40] <Silenced> hateball : Yes it did fetch . But fails to update
[09:40] <arlekin> k1l_: so im just stupid, that's what you're saying ?
[09:40] <k1l_> arlekin: now your system cant read the files because its only trying as your user.
[09:40] <arlekin> k1l_: it may well be that, since i forgot about such thing... rookie mistake :/
[09:41] <k1l_> arlekin: thats what you said. but dont use everything with root priviledges. that is going to make a mess
[09:41] <BenSolo> I would really like to use Linux and  it Windows but until I buy a wireless card for this machine I need to get easytwther working and supposedly it been tested with 15.10 and is supposed to be as simple as installing and running the service and plugging it in.
[09:41] <BenSolo> It shows a connection established..  Just not receiving any packets?
[09:41] <arlekin> k1l_: just joking, thank you very mjuch for pointing it out :)
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: seems like you need to add this line: source-directory interfaces.d
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:42] <BenSolo> lotuspsychje: yes I did
[09:42] <k1l_> arlekin: "chown" that files back to arlekin:arlekin. for that chown command you will need sudo :)
[09:42] <aero> first time here
[09:43] <BenSolo> Does it mean actually source-directory or is that a variable for something I'm supposed to put?
[09:43] <BenSolo> I added the line as is and have rebooted.
[09:43] <arlekin> k1l_: already done. thank you again!
[09:43] <BenSolo> Still shows the connection in ifconfig but wont receive any packets.
[09:43] <hateball> Silenced: You mean the steam client fails to update itself once you launch it?
[09:44] <Silenced> hateball : It downloads the update . But fails to update in the system
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> aero: welcome, you joined an ubuntu support channel
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: found something usefull perhaps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/616528/sweethome3d-and-easytether-not-working-on-ubuntu-15-04
[09:50] <BenSolo> Yeah looked at that lotuspsychje it's for issues pertaining to 15.04.. I tried then anyways to no avail..  I've been in Google for 4 hours Haha.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: you could try the easy way out= 14.04 :p
[09:52] <BenSolo> Yeah I'm not reinstalling my entire setup..
[09:52] <BenSolo> That would not be the easy way Haha.
[09:53] <BenSolo> Over 2TB of crap all over the place. Plus I like 15.10 I'm sure this is something simple...
[09:53] <Silenced> hateball: There ?
[09:54] <BenSolo> Maybe "source-directory"  is some actual directory I'm supposed to plug in..  Or else what the hell can it mean? What source directory?
[09:55] <mcphail> Silenced: if you are using open source drivers, Steam may not start without a bit of tweaking. It'll go through the update process then just disappear
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: i think dir of interfaces.d but not sure
[09:56] <Silenced> mcphail: okay
[09:57] <BenSolo> Yeah no go
[09:58] <BenSolo> Err I know this is a simple solution..
[09:58] <BenSolo> Just not a ton of people use this so there isn't much out there to read.
[09:58] <mcphail> Silenced: it is the same problem people see with the GL errors and open source drivers. But the GL errors only show if there is not Update pending for the Steam client. Renaming/moving steam's copy of libstdc++ usually lets it start
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> BenSolo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245059
[09:59] <Silenced> mcphail: I am able to update steam . I am getting this error called "Fatal error: failed to load steamui.so"
[09:59] <Silenced> I mean when i run steam
[09:59] <mcphail> Silenced: does it crash just after the update bar goes to completion?
[10:00] <Silenced> mcphail: Yes
[10:00] <BenSolo> Lol lotuspsychje completely unrelated. Thx though.
[10:00] <BenSolo> This is specific to 15.10 and it's hot plugging.
[10:00] <mcphail> Silenced: might be worth trying the "renaming libstdc++" fix, as I had the very same symptoms
[10:00] <mcphail> Silenced: hold on and I'll find the one-liner to tweak it
[10:01] <Silenced> mcphail: okay
[10:01] <mcphail> Silenced: find $HOME/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/*/usr/lib/ -name "libstdc++.so.6" -exec mv "{}" "{}.bak" \; -print
[10:01] <ubuntu441> Hi, I  am using ubuntu 12.04 by default my mobile broadband is not enabled, because of this i am not able to access the internet
[10:02] <ubuntu441> It is showing in the drop down but it is showing not enabled
[10:02] <mcphail> Silenced: you need to rerun that after every update
[10:02] <Silenced> mcphail: Can you paste that command again
[10:03] <ubuntu441> Anybody can suggest
[10:03] <Silenced> I am running tmux. And has a split screen
[10:05] <mcphail> Silenced: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886297/
[10:05] <Silenced> exit
[10:05] <mcphail> Silenced: close any running Steam processes first
[10:06] <Silenced> mcphail: Same error :/
[10:06] <mcphail> Silenced: aargh
[10:06] <Silenced> Send me the link to install the experimental driver for steam
[10:07] <Silenced> mcphail: ^
[10:07] <mcphail> Silenced: no idea what link you are talking about
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: could be some missing libs in the steam home dir also
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: maybe you should consider what hateball recommended all over from the beginning
[10:09] <Silenced> Silenced: okay
[10:10] <mcphail> Silenced: there is a way to poke steam to redownload the runtime, but I can't remember the magic
[10:11] <Silenced> mcphail: What driver do you use now ?
[10:11] <mcphail> Silenced: a mixture of nvidia proprietary drivers and open source radeon drivers on different machines
[10:12] <Silenced> When i ran steamclient.so manually. I get a error as "could not find shared library to run this application"
[10:13] <mcphail> Silenced: presumably that is a library, and most libraries can't be run directly
[10:14] <ross> hi
[10:15] <Silenced> okay
[10:16] <paul98> wonder if someone can help,  running xubuntu and do the daily updates, since doing the last one prob yesterday now spoftiy doesn't play any thing, also you tube does the same it loads but doesn't play even clicking play etc
[10:20] <guest> paul98: does the progress bar move as if it's playing?
[10:21] <guest> paul98: or is it stuck at 0:00 ?
[10:21] <sruli> got a problem booting my gnome 15.10, it complains "bad password or options"(luks) i booted livecd and mounted the luks vol without an issue, i guess i.mm gonna need to reinstall, what’s the easiest way to mount my home ecryptfs, i need to get my data. also while mounted & chrooted how can i get a list of packages i installed?
[10:21] <guest> sruli: when you set the password during installation, your keymap was set to US English.
[10:21] <guest> sruli: Is it possible you thought you were typing (e.g.) a £ but instead set it as a #
[10:21] <guest> sruli: I've been caught by that before
[10:22] <paul98> guest: nope it's stuck on 0 but buffers
[10:22] <guest> paul98: Can you install the package "pavucontrol" and then run the program by the same name
[10:24] <haasn> Not sure if this is the right place to ask. In https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/10/maas-network-layouts-for-the-landscape-autopilot/ I'm looking at https://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/split.png but I don't understand why they're all attached to the same switch
[10:24] <haasn> Or is this supposed to be a switch that can distinguish between the two networks (e.g. VLAN)?
[10:24] <haasn> Wouldn't it make more sense to have the private and public networks be on separate switches, at least conceptually?
[10:25] <sruli> Guest: it worked fine for a long time, the reason it happened is complex... its a VM i think my script ran a qemu-img snapshot while the VM was running and that nuked it, i converted the image to raw, was able to start the VM but ran into this, i think the problem is something with UUID and /dev/vdX changing,
[10:25] <sruli> i give up trying to fix the issue all i need is what’s the easiest way to mount my home ecryptfs, i need to get my data. also while mounted & chrooted how can i get a list of packages i installed?
[10:26] <slappymcfry> Can somebody direct me to Ubuntu Server Documentation for the latest releases? The official page hasn't released any yet, what do Ubuntu administrators use for reference?
[10:26] <paul98> guest: managed to fix it for some reason the mode for headset was set to  telephony duplex
[10:27] <k1l_> slappymcfry: "manpages"
[10:27] <guest> paul98: grats
[10:27] <paul98> thanks! :)
[10:28] <guest> sruli: Take a look at the ecryptfs-recover-private utility http://askubuntu.com/a/102257
[10:29] <slappymcfry> k1l_: Reading manpages at the moment but there is no overview from a system wide perspective. example, Ubuntu seems to use ifupdown for its default network management. The manpages are great for individual utilities but where's the broader perspective? Like default configurations and management philosophy etc.
[10:31] <sruli> guest: what about getting a list of custom installed packages, how would i do that?
[10:32] <guest> sruli: you could dpkg -l
[10:32] <guest> sruli: and diff it against dpkg -l on a vanilla install
[10:32] <sruli> is there no simpler way?
[10:32] <slappymcfry> guest: Is there no way to list explicitly installed packages?
[10:34] <jusss> why there's only EFI directory in ubuntu 15.10 iso file? and no other files?
[10:34] <jusss> and I try mount this iso file, and get wrong fs
[10:34] <jusss> wtf
[10:34] <slappymcfry> jusss: You're probably looking at the Efi partition
[10:35] <nocontrol> I have an issue with foreman/upstart and rails, any help is appreciated http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35221886/export-foreman-workers-from-rails-app-to-upstart
[10:35] <jusss> slappymcfry: how I can get the others file in iso file
[10:36] <jusss> slappymcfry: how I mount the iso file?
[10:36] <gabrielAtheos> Hey, I have an hdd that was installed and working fine in another computer, I just tried to install it in my linux machine and it isn't showing up, what could be some likely causes?
[10:38] <slappymcfry> jusss: what OS are you on?
[10:38] <jusss> slappymcfry: win7 and archlinux
[10:39] <jusss> slappymcfry: I just see EFI direcotry of this iso file on win7 via ultraiso, and I can't mount iso file on archlinux, it says wrong fs
[10:39] <jusss> slappymcfry: and the dmesg|tail show nothing about this
[10:39] <slappymcfry> jusss: In Arch: sudo mount -o loop,ro /path/to/iso /mount/path
[10:41] <jusss> slappymcfry: yes, it works, my aplogize
[10:42] <jusss> slappymcfry: if I would make a usb-stick to install ubuntu, dd is ok?
[10:43] <k1l_> jusss: yes
[10:43] <slappymcfry> jusss: yep
[10:43] <k1l_> ubuntu uses hybrid isos. just make sure to dd to sdb and not sdb1
[10:44] <jusss> k1l_: I see, and can I mount the usb-stick after dd is done?
[10:45] <jusss> slappymcfry: does ubuntu provide bootia32.efi?
[10:45] <slappymcfry> jusss: have a look under the EFI directory. I'm new here.
[10:46] <ubuntu528> how to access the mobile broadband connection,  it is not enabled
[10:46] <jusss> slappymcfry: no, it just have bootx64.efi
[10:46] <slappymcfry> jusss: the server iso also only has bootx64.efi
[10:47] <slappymcfry> jusss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[10:47] <k1l_> jusss: you need a 32bit efi? for a tablet?
[10:47] <jusss> k1l_: yes
[10:48] <k1l_> jusss: i would look out for experieces with that install on that tablet. most times someone made a howto
[10:48] <guest> slappymcfry: sruli try zcat -f history.log* | grep "apt-get install"
[10:48] <guest> sorry zcat -f /var/log/apt/history.log* | grep "apt-get install"
[10:49] <sruli> Guest: i also used synaptic to install
[10:49] <slappymcfry> guest: Clever. I'll keep that for future, thanks!
[10:49] <slappymcfry> sruli: synaptic is just a front-end.
[10:49] <ubuntu528>     
[10:50] <sruli> slappymcfry: i dont think it leaves a apt-get in the history log
[10:51] <jusss> k1l_: it's not complex I think, just get a bootia32.efi and put it in EFI/BOOT, and boot from usb-stick, but drivers are really problems
[10:51] <k1l_> jusss: yes. thats why i said: look what you need to do very specific to get that tablet running.
[10:54] <slappymcfry> sruli: it's a front-end to apt, so actions should be logged.
[10:54] <just_> Hi guys. I have Ubuntu 16.04. when apt-get install -f get:
[10:54] <just_> Configured package udev (228-5ubuntu2) ...
[10:54] <just_> add group: «input» Group already exists and is the system. Shutdown.
[10:54] <just_> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[10:54] <just_> insserv: Service mountkernfs has to be enabled to start service udev
[10:54] <just_> insserv: exiting now!
[10:54] <jusss> k1l_: I got a new tablet today, and I try install ubuntu 15.10 on it. and sound and video cards don't work, but wifi is ok, a little surprise
[10:55] <k1l_> just_: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 please
[10:55] <gabrielAtheos> Could anyone help me with a hard drive question?
[10:56] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: Ask away.
[10:56] <gabrielAtheos> I have an hdd that was installed and working fine in another computer, I just tried to install it in my linux machine and it isn't showing up, what could be some likely causes?
[10:57] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: Is the drive listed by `lsblk`?
[10:57] <gabrielAtheos> Yes
[10:58] <slappymcfry> By "showing up" do you mean no showing up in a file manager?
[10:58] <gabrielAtheos> Mind you, I just am looking for some direction, not necessarily the answer. I like to figure things out.
[10:58] <gabrielAtheos> Yes
[11:00] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: Try mounting it manually with the `mount` command.
[11:00] <gabrielAtheos> Is there a reason that Ubuntu wouldn't automatically mount the drive?
[11:01] <gabrielAtheos> Like, why would Ubuntu not mount it, if manually mounting it would work?
[11:02] <sruli> slappymcfry: will test 1 min
[11:02] <sgo11> hi, I meet "Hash Sum mismatch" errors when running "apt-get update". I tried many ways to solved this problem by goolging, but no luck. can anyone please help? thanks a lot. error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886435/
[11:02] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: Mounts are defined in /etc/fstab. I believe Ubuntu uses udisks to allow user mounting, but then it should show up in your file manager.
[11:03] <sruli> guest: where is this history file supposed to be ? i get "gzip: history.log*.gz: No such file or directory"
[11:04] <gabrielAtheos> slappymcfry: Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into those areas
[11:04] <plop28> Hi everyone
[11:04] <jusss> auto mounting sounds not a good idea I think :)
[11:05] <plop28> need some help for a Ubuntu Desktop, Icon are missing after upgrade and indicator session too
[11:05] <slappymcfry> Could anybody recommend resources on Ubuntu? I understand some things have changed since the switch to systemd, so some older documentation might not be valid. I'm a *nix administrator looking for insight. I don't want to rely on trial-and-error. Is it closely aligned to Debian enough so its docs are relevant?
[11:06] <plop28> i reinstall ubuntu-desktop and indicator-session package, it works after a reboot, but today the problem is the same
[11:06] <plop28> do you know a permanent fix for this issue ?
[11:06] <arlekin> hi - i have a problem with hamachi - i installed it, copied my previous config (to avoid tiresome mess with joining networks and such) and now im in a pickle: while i can list networks, and my status says 'logged_in' i can't seem to connect to most of the network members
[11:06] <arlekin> sorry since this is probably wrong channel, but i have no idea where to find a solution
[11:08] <slappymcfry> sruli: /var/log/...
[11:08] <gfdhjf> hi everyone, burn all jews in oven
[11:08] <gfdhjf> allahu akhbar
[11:08] <gfdhjf> death to infidels
[11:08] <gfdhjf> only muslims have a right to live
[11:09] <arlekin> trolls ? seriously ?
[11:09] <k1l_> dont mind them.
[11:10] <gabrielAtheos> slappy, I don't know how much detail you are looking for, but the book How Linux Works 2nd edition by Brian Ward from No Starch Press has about 10 pages on systemd and it's uses.
[11:10] <sruli> k1l_: why not let them tell everyone what the media does not want anyone to know, let them show their true colours and enough of political correctness!
[11:10] <arlekin> k1l_: i don't intend to, but seriously, thats like, soooo 2005
[11:10] <gabrielAtheos> Not sure if that helps, but it is all I know of
[11:10] <paul__> how to set TCP conncetion limit in ubuntu?
[11:11] <k1l_> sruli: if you support that trolls statements just leave this channel since that does in no way fit with the ubunut code of conduct. thanks
[11:11] <mrp> hello, what is the "best" way to get the latest version of GCC installed? I want the very latest releases which takes a few weeks/months to reach the standard Ubuntu update channels.
[11:11] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: I'm familiar with the book, thank you for the recommendation. I use systemd everyday, so it's not a problem. I'd like to learn more about Ubuntu. I haven't used it since "netbook edition" became permanent.
[11:12] <mrp> I don't want to screw up my system though by removing the default GCC so I want something that allows me to select install different GCC versions
[11:12] <sruli> k1l_: i support? u did not understand my message!
[11:13] <sruli> k1l_: in order to stop another hitler everyone needs to know how big the problem is, by banning them from chat rooms no one will know the severity of the problem!
[11:14] <gabrielAtheos> slappymcfry: I am not an expert in the matter, but Ubuntu kind of does their own thing and while it may be based on Debian, I think they have distanced themselves from Debian pretty substantially.
[11:14] <sruli> k1l_: i know its off-topic, just want to make sure u understand i do not agree with the statements made by the troll
[11:15] <gabrielAtheos> Looking for a Ubuntu specific book would be a better bet than basing your knowledge on Debian
[11:15] <slappymcfry> gabrielAtheos: I was afraid of that. The official documentation is very limited and the wiki is... well... it leaves a lot to be desired.
[11:16] <gabrielAtheos> slappymcfry: I agree fully...
[11:16] <slappymcfry> Which is a shame because we are considering using Ubuntu servers due to LXD.
[11:17] <bekks> slappymcfry: And whats the problem in using Ubuntu then?
[11:17] <arlekin> how can i check my ssh logs ?
[11:17] <gabrielAtheos> slappymcfry: My knowledge is based on the desktop os, I know nothing of the server os. My insight could be completely off in that regard
[11:17] <arlekin> i mean there are not in /var/logs as i would expect
[11:17] <bekks> gabrielAtheos: There is no such things as "desktop OS" or "server OS".
[11:18] <slappymcfry> bekks: lack of documentation, at the moment. maybe I'm just not looking in the right places
[11:18] <bekks> slappymcfry: I assume the latter.
[11:18] <mcphail> slappymcfry: as far as the server side of things is concerned, Ubuntu is close enough to debian that you're rarely going to notice any difference
[11:18] <bekks> slappymcfry: PRetty much everything is documented for Ubuntu.
[11:18] <k1l_> slappymcfry: help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <slappymcfry> bekks: which brings me here :)
[11:18] <k1l_> !documentation | slappymcfry
[11:19] <mcphail> slappymcfry: Ubuntu follows the debian conventions, with configuration under /etc, docs in /usr/shar/docs/packagename etc
[11:19] <mcphail> *share
[11:19] <slappymcfry> k1l_: Thanks, but as mentioned. Latest documentation is for 14.04. Pre-systemd
[11:19] <bekks> slappymcfry: Latest LTS is 14.04.
[11:19] <bekks> slappymcfry: For a server, thats your best bet.
[11:19] <k1l_> slappymcfry: you dont want to use non LTS as server anyway :)
[11:19] <spearsec-lonny> chaps, I have a home server running on my network that temporarily becomes unreachable. I can't visit any web-services, I can't ssh... any idea where I should be looking to find the root cause of this? I haven't the faintest idea where to start
[11:20] <slappymcfry> bekks: I don't see us migrating our systemd units to upstart
[11:20] <spearsec-lonny> what logs should I be looking at
[11:20] <k1l_> slappymcfry: or do you want to upgrade every 6months? i dont think so
[11:20] <bekks> slappymcfry: which service in particular do you have to migrate?
[11:20] <bekks> slappymcfry: Which service without an existing upstart startup script in particular?
[11:21] <ubone> is there a command to list show the current active keyboard layout, to put with notify-send for a notification upon layout change
[11:21] <slappymcfry> k1l_: We'll probably only switch when 16.04 is released.
[11:21] <k1l_> slappymcfry: yes. that makes more sense
[11:23] <slappymcfry> bekks: plenty in-house services. from user-based luks containers to libvirt/lxc sessions.
[11:24] <dcunit3d> so i built ffmpeg and a few dependencies, then installed ffmpeg with checkinstall.  i built OBS on top of this. and after several hours i got it to work.
[11:24] <dcunit3d> but i installed VLC with apt-get and it depends on FFMpeg.  so it stomps on my custom build.
[11:25] <dcunit3d> i tried making isolated build of ffmpeg, then building OBS with that, but failed and i don't feel like screwing with it bc i don't understand why cmake isn't finding my dependency libs in ~/local.
[11:25] <dcunit3d> so, how do i get VLC to not update?
[11:27] <slappymcfry> bekks: k1l_: So before the next LTS, I was hoping to get up to speed over the weekend with Ubuntu's inner workings. The server ISO is already much more minimal than the last time I tried it, so picking it apart isn't hard, just tedious.
[11:28] <bekks> slappymcfry: Which "inner workings"? It's a linux-based userland, just as debian, etc.
[11:30] <slappymcfry> bekks: each distro has its own quirks. I come from a Red Hat and Gentoo background so Debian is strange in many aspects.
[11:31] <slappymcfry> If Ubuntu is closely aligned to Debian, I'm content with Debian's books/resources I have.
[11:31] <bekks> slappymcfry: Most strange thing is the network configuration not being in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ - everything else is almost just the same.
[11:32] <slappymcfry> bekks: I'll keep that in mind, thank you.
[11:34] <mcphail> slappymcfry: I've administered Ubuntu hobby servers for years, using the Debian docs, and haven't hit any issues. But my usage is as an amateur: I don't do this for a living. But, if anything, Ubuntu and Debian are getting closer again with the switch to systemd
[11:35] <slappymcfry> mcphail: That's great to hear. Much appreciated!
[11:37] <mcphail> slappymcfry: debianadministration.org has always been a great resource, although it is quite out of date. But is is good for high-level overviews of the way debian (and Ubuntu) work on the server
[11:37] <ubone> in openbox/rc.conf can both shifts execute a command, s-s is interpreted as shift+S, #openbox is invite only
[11:39] <slappymcfry> mcphail: thanks. definitely bookmarked. There are some great articles.
[11:43] <Wulf> Hi
[11:43] <EvilDust> hi
[11:44] <Wulf> I want to use a specific kernel version. Where can I specify which one is used by default, even if later versions are installed?
[11:45] <badp> Hi guys. I've been getting catastrophic problems with my 15.10 install. Every time I right click something, open a window, open a chrome tab, drag and drop something or otherwise create a window, there is like a 1% chance that Xorg gets completely stuck midway in event hell
[11:45] <badp> I've collected some information at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1540553
[11:47] <badp> I've tried not using compiz (gnome 3/cinnamon), going back to an older kernel version (25), going back to upstart, not using redshift, not using external monitors
[11:47] <badp> sometimes I can work without issue for hours on end, sometimes it's like the last hour where I get hung thrice in a row
[11:49] <slappymcfry> badp: which graphics card/driver are you using?
[11:50] <slappymcfry> badp: nevermind, saw the link.
[11:50] <badp> intel
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:52] <slappymcfry> badp: do you have a full Xorg log?
[11:53] <kuly-zu> how can i solve is group writable?
[11:53] <k1l_> kuly-zu: can you explain more?
[11:53] <slappymcfry> badp: consider using dri3 perhaps?
[11:54] <kuly-zu> whenever i use sudo i get this message: /var/lib/sudo/ts is group writable
[11:58] <k1l_> kuly-zu: that sounds like you messed with your system
[11:59] <k1l_> kuly-zu: sudo chmod 0700 /var/lib/sudo
[11:59] <kuly-zu> k1l_, you are scaring me, is it bad?
[12:00] <bekks> kuly-zu: maybe you just tell us what you did? :)
[12:02] <kuly-zu> i wanted to be able to edit /var/www
[12:02] <kuly-zu> so i run these commands
[12:02] <k1l_> kuly-zu: that is the totally wrong way. just add your user to the www-data group and you can edit stuff in /var/www
[12:02] <bekks> kuly-zu: Which commands?
[12:03] <kuly-zu> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/082ada44d4d4a348f53a
[12:03] <kuly-zu> i did add a user to www-data
[12:04] <kuly-zu> but when i tried to clone a repo into /var/www
[12:04] <bekks> kuly-zu: And you did much more, like messing up /var/lib/sudo
[12:04] <kuly-zu> it did gives me permission denied
[12:04] <bekks> kuly-zu: So please tell us everything you did.
[12:04] <k1l_> kuly-zu: you made everything group writeable on your system, iirc.
[12:04] <kuly-zu> these command are from my history, how did i missed with /var/lib/sudo
[12:04] <kuly-zu> ??
[12:05] <kuly-zu> k1l_, how?
[12:05] <bekks> kuly-zu: you have been in / when executing the commands, did you?
[12:05] <kuly-zu> no i was in /var
[12:05] <kuly-zu> oh shit
[12:05] <kuly-zu> i see it now
[12:06] <kuly-zu> www is inside /var as well as lib folder
[12:06] <kuly-zu> OMG
[12:06] <kuly-zu> how can i get it back?
[12:06] <bekks> kuly-zu: Restore it from your backup.
[12:06] <bekks> kuly-zu: Or reinstall.
[12:07] <kuly-zu> i don't have a backup, reinstall is not an option
[12:07] <bekks> kuly-zu: Reinstall is your inly option when not having a backup.
[12:07] <bekks> *only
[12:07] <kuly-zu> can anyone send the default permissions for the /var directory
[12:08] <bekks> kuly-zu: you need to fix the permissions for every single file under /var ...
[12:08] <bekks> kuly-zu: those are thousands of files.
[12:09] <Mathisen> oooo the pain....
[12:09] <kuly-zu> aren't all have the same permission?
[12:09] <bekks> kuly-zu: No.
[12:17] <barto_> buenos dias gente
[12:26] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[12:26] <saitama> no
[12:28] <guest> sruli: /var/log/apt
[12:28] <dzieglerg> Hi, how can i install apache2 via apt without that apt will remove my nginx?
[12:29] <guest> dzieglerg: can you please put the output of the command "apt-get -s install apache2" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel?
[12:29] <guest> dzieglerg: The -s flag means simulate, ie, no actual changes will be made, it will just show what *would* be done
[12:30] <C_minus> I am running the Ubuntu LiveUSB. I can't install stuff with apt-get. I want pv to monitor the progress of dd copy. sudo apt-get install pv says "Unable to locate package pv"
[12:30] <EriC^^> !info pv
[12:30] <dzieglerg> guest: yes https://gist.github.com/nook24/939559e82bab85522a28
[12:30] <guest> C_minus: you should run "apt-get update" first to refresh the package index
[12:31] <C_minus> i did
[12:31] <EriC^^> C_minus: sudo add-apt-repository universe
[12:31] <k1l_> C_minus: enable universe repo
[12:31] <guest> dzieglerg: That's fine then. It is not going to remove nginx. It's safe to install apache2
[12:31] <C_minus> EriC^^ 'universe' distribution component enabled for all sources.
[12:31] <guest> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[12:31] <guest>   openitcockpit openitcockpit-common
[12:31] <k1l_> C_minus: then apt-get update
[12:31] <EriC^^> C_minus: apt-get update
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^
[12:31] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[12:32] <C_minus> thanks - it has now installed pv
[12:32] <dzieglerg> guest: ah the openitcockpit package conflicts with apache2... ok my fault
[12:32] <C_minus> since i am on live usb, i need to mount disks before i can perform a backup (using dd)?
[12:33] <EriC^^> C_minus: no, and don't
[12:33] <k1l_> C_minus: dont mount and dd.
[12:33] <C_minus> k1l Clonezilla doesn't work for me, it says i have mismatched MBR and GPT tables
[12:34] <leonarth> anyone knows how to allow VNC access to Ubuntu without the need to SSH port forward first?
[12:34] <EriC^^> C_minus: Bashing-OM game you a link
[12:34] <EriC^^> *gave
[12:34] <C_minus> yeah but for that fix, it suggests backing up first, in case it destroys all your stuff. so i'm in the position of needing to backup before i can backup before i can backup before...
[12:35] <EriC^^> C_minus: try sudo fixparts on the disk
[12:35] <EriC^^> you might have stray gpt causing the confusion
[12:36] <C_minus> EriC^^ yes i definitely do. but that's the point. to fix it with that gdisk thing, they recommend backing up first.
[12:36] <C_minus> i need to remove the GPT table because i boot in legacy mode with MBR
[12:36] <EriC^^> i think it won't harm
[12:37] <C_minus> EriC^^ See the disclaimer in red at the very end http://drbl.org/faq/fine-print.php?path=./2_System/116_unmatched_partition_table.faq
[12:38] <Kartagis> what package do I need so that I can get gparted to format to exfat? both exfat-tools and exfat-fuse are installed
[12:40] <EriC^^> C_minus: they mean if it's gpt and you use that command it'll destroy it, use sudo fixparts it does a check i think
[12:41] <EriC^^> it'll say it's gpt and just exit, if it sees it's mbr with stray data it'll say it found something that looks like stray data and ask what to do
[12:42] <C_minus> Here's my lsblk output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886802/ . So would "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc conv=noerror,sync" be what I'm after for a full backup?
[12:42] <leonarth> anyone knows how to allow VNC access to Ubuntu without the need to SSH port forward first?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> leonarth: be carefull with vnc stuff, its a danger to use
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> leonarth: whats your end goal exactly?
[12:43] <leonarth> it'll be used only internally
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> leonarth: no internet connected on any boxes?
[12:43] <leonarth> goal: VNC into a Linux box without the need to SSH tunnel
[12:43] <leonarth> directly on LAN ip
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> leonarth: try teamviewer
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | leonarth
[12:44] <leonarth> with tightVNC unless I tunnel the connection gets refused
[12:44] <C_minus> EriC^^ I thought so but I just wanted to be sure. You mean that I'll be OK using that fix because I know I use MBR for sure?
[12:44] <leagris> if you don't need to share a session, use NXDesktop/FreeNX (better performance, more secure since goes through ssh)
[12:45] <leonarth> the client we use to manage all connections doesn't support NX
[12:45] <EriC^^> C_minus: no, well if you do, yeah, but i said use fixparts cause even if you run it on a gpt it checks stuff for you
[12:45] <leonarth> my question is what configuration is limiting the connection to 5901 ?
[12:46] <argyaista> hai
[12:46] <EriC^^> C_minus: you can use that dd if you want straight away, or without noerror if you want to know about errors
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> leonarth: whatever you choose, dont mess with vnc variants, youl get hammered 24/7
[12:46] <argyaista> i dont know
[12:47] <argyaista> hei
[12:47] <leonarth> I see, thanks lotuspsychje
[12:47] <leagris> Can have freeNX on whatever port you like if it is a port issue. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:48] <C_minus> EriC^^ Thanks and you said I didn't want any drives mounted, so looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886802/ am I in the correct state to execute the dd right now? The laptop's sda is not mounted but the external drive sdc is?
[12:48] <leagris> it has clients for MacOs and Windows
[12:48] <EriC^^> C_minus: unmount both
[12:50] <C_minus> EriC^^ Thanks. I did "sudo umount /dev/sdc" but the output of lsblk looks the same as before
[12:50] <C_minus> i.e. mount point of sdc is given as "/media/ubuntu/My Passport..."
[12:55] <EriC^^> C_minus: try again
[12:55] <EriC^^> see if it shows up in cat /proc/mounts
[12:57] <C_minus> EriC^^ I ended up just clicking the "eject" icon next to the drive on nautilus. Now it doesn't have amount point listed http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886876/ Now I'm ready to use "sudo pv dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc bs=512 conv=noerror,sync"
[12:57] <C_minus> ?
[13:00] <C_minus> EriC^^ So I'll do this dd backup, then Ill try your fixparts fix, and if that works nicely, I'll backup again (this time using clonezilla hopefully)
[13:02] <EriC^^> C_minus: i dont think you can use pv like that
[13:03] <EriC^^> C_minus: i think it's dd if=/dev/sda | pv | dd of=/dev/sdc bs=4M
[13:04] <C_minus> EriC^^ Althouhg I think I want a smaller bs than that (in case of errors) right?
[13:09] <C_minus> EriC^^ dd Failed with error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14886932/
[13:10] <C_minus> dd failed saying "failed to open 'dev/sdc': Permission denied"
[13:10] <guest> !sudo | C_minus
[13:10] <C_minus> guest The command was " sudo dd if=/dev/sda | pv | dd of=/dev/sdc bs=512 conv=noerror,sync"
[13:11] <BluesKaj> C_minus, unmount /dev/sdc
[13:11] <EriC^^> C_minus: you need sudo on both
[13:13] <C_minus> EriC^^ Oh like this: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | pv | sudo of=/dev/sdc bs=512 conv=noerror,sync"
[13:13] <EriC^^> yeah,
[13:13] <BluesKaj> C_minus, why the  | pv |  ?
[13:13] <EriC^^> i think bs won't affect the error
[13:13] <C_minus> BluesKaj to see progress. It's a big copy.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:14] <BluesKaj> bs=1M would be safe as well, but faster
[13:14] <C_minus> Thanks EriC^^ and everyone. It's now copying away happily. See you all in many hours!
[13:14] <ZoderUch2> hi
[13:16] <ZoderUch2> question, i have ubuntu 14.04 from half year ago, if i want to install curl i get an message it depens a generic linux kernel is it a good idea to do first apt-get -f install   i am afraid lots of packages will break
[13:22] <huxxy> hello
[13:22] <huxxy> ?
[13:23] <ZoderUch2> hello
[13:23] <jaake> hello
[13:26] <Guest14080> hallo
[13:27] <SEGELBERT> hi
[13:39] <agung> hello ....
[13:42] <nichlas> Is there an updated guide for dualbooting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.10? It's failing hard for me.
[13:45] <ghabit> Hello guys. I'm looking for total commander analog. Is there something? Thank you.
[13:48] <UbuOneKenobi> yes I said so
[13:48] <UbuOneKenobi> :)
[13:48] <UbuOneKenobi> thats how it goes up in there.
[13:48] <OerHeks> !info mc
[13:49] <OerHeks> ghabit, midnight commander = filemanager for in a terminal ?
[13:51] <gothaggis> question - I recently setup a system and moved the home directory to an iscsi mount.  worked like a charm.  however, I compared this system to another system (both ubuntu 14.04) and there is one slight difference.  the system i setup, if I look at 'df -h' it shows as the filesystem /dev/sdc1 mounted on /home.  if i look at the existing system, it shows as /dev/mapper/hostname--vg-home mounted
[13:51] <gothaggis> on /home.  the /etc/fstab file is identical on both systems (aside from the UUID) - and the original home mount in /etc/fstab that was /dev/mapper/hostname--vg-home is commented out on both systems. is this some lvg thing - perhaps I need to setup lv on the new system?
[13:52] <OerHeks> !gentoo | ghabit or a filemanager with gui
[13:53] <OerHeks> !info gentoo
[13:54] <jhinkley> Hi, would anyone give me some direction on how to speed up my chronically slow instance of Ubuntu 15.10
[13:55] <jhinkley> The specs aren't great, but it should not be this slow I do not believe: it's an Intel® Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz × 2
[13:55] <jhinkley> 1.8 Gig
[13:55] <ghabit> Thank you
[13:55] <ghabit> !!!
[13:56] <aatwood> fluxbox. 8)
[13:56] <OerHeks> jhinkley, open terminal : systemd-analyze blame  ( without sudo) , what is the culprit?
[13:57] <xangua> jhinkley: are you using unity? I would try Xfce desktop instead
[13:57] <OerHeks> jhinkley, and ' systemd-analyze  ' gives total times
[13:57] <jhinkley>   15.664s postgresql@9.4-main.service
[13:57] <jhinkley>          13.094s dev-sda2.device
[13:57] <jhinkley>          10.262s systemd-sysctl.service
[13:57] <jhinkley>           8.123s systemd-udevd.service
[13:58] <jhinkley> how do I switch to Xfce?
[13:58] <jhinkley> yes using unity
[13:58] <OerHeks> postgresql likely, 15 sec.
[13:58] <jhinkley> what is that
[13:58] <OerHeks> SQL database
[13:59] <jhinkley> oh
[13:59] <jhinkley> I also see a tor default service, I am not running tor
[14:00] <ivali> Is there a guideline at using integrated or dedicated graphics on an Ubuntu laptop?
[14:00] <jhinkley> and a virtual box web service, not using virtual box
[14:00] <ivali> with both options it seems to work the same
[14:04] <OerHeks> jhinkley, that vbox part is preloaded, so if you are sure you don't need it, deinstall vbox then. (i think it is the network part and such)
[14:04] <jhinkley> I have two other questions: how to I remove the Kubuntu graphic that appears on startup? I am not even running Kubunutu
[14:04] <jhinkley> ok
[14:05] <jhinkley> OerHeks: is the SQL service necessary?
[14:06] <jhinkley> xangua: what is better about Xfce? I am installing xubuntu-destop right now..
[14:07] <OerHeks> oh, you installed kubuntu desktop and it changed the loader ..
[14:08] <OerHeks> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth ( and choose lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth    auto mode )
[14:08] <OerHeks> and to make it stick :  sudo update-initramfs -u
[14:08] <OerHeks> old guide, still valid > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/
[14:09] <jayjo> I run a command to ssh tunnel a db connection by using ssh and some flags, and it runs in the background. Can I have a script that I can run like ssh-tunnel activate and ssh-tunnel deactivate to switch this on and off?
[14:09] <OerHeks> err, so you ask for help, and perform installations in between, very clever
[14:15] <kimse> Anybody here who can help me with this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/729950/automouting-nfs-share-inside-nated-lxc-container-fails
[14:30] <tgm4883> kimse: I believe the correct way to do that is to mount it on the host and share it with the lxc container
[14:32] <adac> wondering if vzdump can also encrypt the backup
[14:32] <adac> or if there is another way to do that
[14:38] <Atnon> Anyone here who is running Adobe Photoshop and/or Abelton Live on xubuntu?
[14:38] <kimse> tgm4883: but the disadvantage of that is that the directory is mounted all the time, and automount is working in another setup.
[14:42] <neredsenvy> I create a new user when I switch to that user I cannot use commands like ll nor do I see folders/files colored as I do when I'm on root
[14:42] <neredsenvy> I used sudo useradd --system --gid www-data --shell /bin/bash --home /home/tomcat tomcat
[14:45] <Pici> neredsenvy: useradd doesn't copy things from /etc (and the specific folder name is escaping me right now) the one that holds the default .bashrc, etc. Most of the time you should be using adduser, not useradd.
[14:45] <Pici> neredsenvy: let me remember that folder name and you can copy the stuff from there manually.
[14:45] <neredsenvy> thanks
[14:46] <iperc> hello everyone
[14:46] <anonymous287> best way to create usb bootable in ubuntu
[14:47] <anonymous287> "bootable usb" :)
[14:47] <Pici> neredsenvy: they're in /etc/skel/
[14:47] <neredsenvy> where do i copy it to
[14:47] <Pici> neredsenvy: /home/tomcat/ in this case.
[14:50] <neredsenvy> Pici: Thanks worked like charm
[14:53] <homa_> hi my friends
[14:55] <znemz> Could use some help getting linux-tools-generic installed on ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-71 on heroku. Been trying https://github.com/ddollar/heroku-buildpack-apt/ with no such luck.
[14:56] <znemz> tried:
[14:56] <znemz> linux-tools-common
[14:56] <znemz> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-tools-common_3.13.0-71.114_all.deb
[14:56] <znemz> linux-tools-generic
[14:56] <znemz> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.13.0-71-generic_3.13.0-71.114_amd64.deb
[14:56] <znemz> linux-tools-3.13.0-71-generic
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !find linux-tools
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> znemz  it's in the repos, no need for an external .deb
[14:57] <iperc> who tried to user guitar rig on ubuntu through wine ?
[14:57] <znemz> I need the deb url to make that buildpack work.
[14:57] <znemz> There is no access to root in heroku and everything gets installed at boot / buildpack time.
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> iperc  try #ubuntustudio, a dedicated multimedia channel
[14:58] <iperc> I can't compile wineasio on ubuntu 15.10
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> what's herolu
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> what's heroku
[14:58] <iperc> thanks !
[14:58] <znemz> heroku.com/
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> znemz  this is ubuntu support
[14:59] <znemz> Could use some help getting linux-tools-generic installed on ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-71 on heroku. Been trying https://github.com/ddollar/heroku-buildpack-apt/ with no such luck.
[14:59] <znemz> I just need perf
[15:00] <znemz> sorry wrong room; meant that to be in heroku channel
[15:02] <anonymous287> wine cannot use my connexion
[15:02] <anonymous287> can you help me?
[15:07] <lessless> hey folks! I'm trying to install nginx mainline  on ubuntu 14.04 by following this article http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html#mainline
[15:08] <lessless> but even after apt-get update,  apt-get install nginx still installs 1.8.x instead of 1.9.x
[15:13] <znemz> lessless did you try updating the repos? https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/tutorials/install/#
[15:13] <znemz> sudo -s
[15:13] <znemz> nginx=stable # use nginx=development for latest development version
[15:13] <znemz> add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/$nginx
[15:13] <znemz> apt-get update
[15:13] <znemz> apt-get install nginx
[15:15] <bugnuts> anyone here figured out how to get the ubuntu template up and running in qubes?
[15:16] <nichlas> Can anyone point me towards an up-to-date guide on dualbooting Ubuntu and Win10? Seems i end up with either unbootable ubuntu or win10 when i try it.
[15:16] <bugnuts> nichlas, try www.qubes-os.org
[15:17] <bugnuts> single boot, then run all you need in a secured virutlised sandbox
[15:17] <longwuyuan> hi, anyone using wily
[15:17] <nichlas> bugnuts: so how does it perform graphically?
[15:18] <bekks> nichlas: Not sufficient for gaming.
[15:18] <nichlas> then it's out
[15:18] <lessless> znemz, no luck - still 1:1.8.1-8.5.0.24~trusty1
[15:18] <bugnuts> nichlas, mostly headless ecept for gui applications then its windowed, you can force full screan, gor gaming your looking at 1gig ram hit for seucirty
[15:18] <omenius> I'm getting some errors while upgrading and installing mumble-server, could someone help?
[15:18] <omenius> here is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/rhPi4cC3
[15:18] <omenius> seems python related
[15:18] <nichlas> bugnuts: that's so not what i'm looking for :)
[15:19] <bekks> bugnuts: Can you please rephrase it? Gaming is not a target for virtualization.
[15:19] <omenius> could it be because I've changed default 2.x python to 3.4
[15:20] <bugnuts> bekks, its more rather than dual booting run everything you need on xen
[15:20] <longwuyuan> hello, anyone using wily
[15:20] <bugnuts> not sure how far along they are with win10 though
[15:20] <nichlas> bugnuts: "everything you need" as long as it's not AAA gaming.
[15:20] <bekks> bugnuts: that would require the (only) graphics adapter to be passed through to a VM, which I strongly advice against.
[15:20] <nichlas> that's the only thing keeping Win10 on my PC.. that and lightroom
[15:21] <bugnuts> nichlas, i havent tried gaming yet been to buisy to install windows lol
[15:22] <nichlas> bugnuts: then you really shouldn't try to advice on it.
[15:22] <bugnuts> bekks, fair point, not sure how qubes does it exactly i sjould really look that up
[15:22] <Mozai> Which irc channel do I use to ask a question about postfix?
[15:22] <longwuyuan> hello, any way to use the backported atheros10k driver on Wily
[15:23] <bekks> bugnuts: They do it using xen. The above applies.
[15:23] <bekks> Mozai: #postfix ? :)
[15:23] <znemz> lessless https://gist.github.com/nmccready/d25c0446a586fe6c2407
[15:24] <Mozai> bekks, "Unfortunately because of attacks on Freenode IRC, we have had to limit participation to  registered users."
[15:25] <nichlas> Mozai: you could just register.
[15:25] <Mozai> nichlas, working on that now.
[15:25] <lessless> 10x
[15:25] <ioria> omenius, python --version ?
[15:26] <Mozai> ... seems NickServ forgot my name.
[15:27] <nichlas> Mozai: happened to me too. I guess they clean up once in a while.
[15:29] <Mozai> In the meantime, I'll ask here.  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, postfix. Gotta change the default suffix for outgoing mail to something that isn't the hostname and matches the host's PTR record.  I've set 'myorigin' and 'mydomain' and even 'myhostname' but postfix is still using `hostname -fqdn` and appending that to outgoing mail.  What did I forget to do?
[15:30] <vikash> vikku
[15:35] <plop_> hi there, is anyone can tell me how can i have my little gear icon back on ubuntu 15.10 ? i try to reset unity with unity-tweak-tool but it's the same
[15:38] <Mozai> plop_ where is the little gear icon?
[15:39] <Mozai> or where did you expect to see it?
[15:40] <iperc> what is the gear icon ?
[15:41] <plop_> top right of the screen, it's where you have shutdown restart etc..
[15:41] <plop_> Mozai: top right of the screen, it's where you have shutdown restart etc..
[15:42] <plop_> Mozai: the button is gone after upgrade to 15.10
[15:43] <cfhowlett> plop_, you tweaked it away then
[15:44] <teta> what's the most boombalistic way to upgrade my ubuntu 14.04 to the latest ubuntu?
[15:44] <ubuntu082> hi
[15:45] <OerHeks> teta, reinstall
[15:45] <ubuntu082> guys i upgrade my ubuntu 14.04 to 15.10 but when i reboot it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> teta, download 15.10 and clean intstall
[15:45] <ubuntu082> it show failed to load kernel modules
[15:45] <ubuntu082> how can i fix it ?
[15:45] <OerHeks> teta, else you have issues upgrading 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol) > 15.04 ( eol) > 15.10 ( current)
[15:46] <iperc> i newer upgrade my ubuntu, because it always crash after upgrade
[15:46] <ubuntu082> i just upgrade it directly from 14.04 to 15.10
[15:46] <OerHeks> 14.04 to 15.10, i have seen that the upgrader gives this option, but fails.
[15:46] <OerHeks> no clue how to fix this, backup your data and reinstall
[15:46] <plop_> ok i found a solution, its appen only with high contrast theme
[15:46] <plop_> thanks guys
[15:47] <ubuntu082> is there anybody can help me ?
[15:47] <teta> so looks like 14.04 is still like the main version right
[15:47] <teta> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:48] <ubuntu082> ok have a nice night i will find it myself
[15:48] <cfhowlett> ubuntu082, we did help you.  you cannot "easily" upgrade to 15.10 from 14.04.  download 15.10 and install it.  OR wait for a few months and direct upgrade to 16.05
[15:48] <ubuntu082> bye
[15:48] <OerHeks> no, 15.10 is also in that page, 2nd blcok
[15:48] <ubuntu082> why i cant ?
[15:48] <EriC^^> ubuntu082: hi
[15:48] <OerHeks> again: 14.04 to 15.10, i have seen that the upgrader gives this option, but fails.
[15:48] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: he did upgrade, but he got an error after restarting
[15:49] <ubuntu082> what is the problem its not like windows move from xp to seven and go on
[15:49] <ubuntu082> it just cant load modules
[15:49] <EriC^^> ubuntu082: how did you upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> it's not like windows because it AIN"T windows.
[15:50] <ubuntu082> with do-release-upgrade ithink
[15:50] <Metacono> Hi guys
[15:50] <ubuntu082> ok
[15:50] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, 2nd time I've heard of this.  the first guy did some halfway eolupgrade to force it which broke everything
[15:51] <OerHeks> EriC^^, xangua found out that as of december, this upgrade path 14.04 > 15.04 is offered
[15:51] <OerHeks> :-(
[15:51] <cfhowlett> link OerHeks ???
[15:51] <EriC^^> yeah normal upgrade path
[15:51] <EriC^^> 14.04 > 15.04 > 15.10
[15:52] <genii> Not more like 14.04->14.10->15.04->15.10 ?
[15:52] <OerHeks> i have to loook for that askubuntu page, but this bugreport https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1534897
[15:53] <EriC^^> oh right
[15:53] <Metacono> I had 15.10 and my SO didn't work
[15:53] <Metacono> there's no user
[15:53] <Metacono> after installation
[15:56] <ciccio> hello
[15:58] <Metacono> hi ciccio
[15:58] <OerHeks> Metacono, what do you mean with "no user afer installation" ??
[16:00] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, just tested my 14.04 --- changed update settings to "next release" and it did indeed begin to upgrade to wily.  I halted the process once it changed my sources.list
[16:00] <cfhowlett> that feature seems to have been rather quietly rolled out ...
[16:00] <ciccio> il mangiarozzo
[16:01] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, yes, there should have been an announcement for that :-(
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !it | ciccio
[16:01] <OerHeks> but xangua found out it crashes, a lot.
[16:01] <OerHeks> so, it is a bug, or buggy
[16:02] <OerHeks> buggy as intended, but with a bug
[16:02] <ciccio> grazie
 I mean that theres no user, no root user and nothing
 I had to run Ubuntu 15.10 in recovery mod to create a user
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Metacono, your install is suspect and not to be trusted.
[16:06] <S-USA|Phone> Metacono: you'll have to reinstall due to that whatever it is
[16:06] <cfhowlett> ubuntu creates the admin user by default.  No admin user on reboot?  your system is funky
[16:08] <teward> is there a list of what architectures are supported for which releases?
 and I couldn't give admin permissions to it
[16:09] <Metacono> scuse me for my bad english xD
[16:10] <S-USA|Phone> teward: Well, we support 32- and 64-bit x86 (including Mac), and a couple of flavours support PowerPC
[16:10] <cfhowlett> and arm ...
[16:10] <OerHeks> Metacono, without admin user, you cannot give an user admin rights, so you run around in circles.
[16:10] <Metacono> yes
[16:11] <Metacono> I think it could be because i used an netinstall
[16:11] <S-USA|Phone> cfhowlett: Well yes, ARM as well, but that's just for Ubuntu Touch, right?
[16:11] <cfhowlett> S-USA|Phone, yep
[16:11] <OerHeks> backup your data with live iso, not netinstall iso, and reinstall.
[16:11] <Metacono> now I have ubuntu 14.04
[16:11] <Metacono> I installed with the live iso
[16:11] <OerHeks> installing with netinstall should be fine. ( only wired internet)
[16:11] <Metacono> and works perfectly
[16:12] <S-USA|Phone> cfhowlett: I was particularly talking about Ubuntu desktop :)
[16:12] <Metacono> I used wireless :c
[16:12] <teward> S-USA|Phone: not the question, i'm not asking about flavors, i'm asking about individual releases - precise, trusty, etc.
[16:12] <teward> i *know* we support the basics ;)
[16:12] <teward> i need the full list
[16:12] <teward> i just got my answer from Launchpad, now.
[16:13] <OerHeks> teward, easy to find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedArchitectures
[16:13]  * teward goes back into the shadows
[16:13] <teward> thanks OerHeks
[16:14] <S-USA|Phone> teward: I don't think you get my point... All supported releases are for 32- and 64-bit x86, except for Ubuntu Touch for ARM platforms and Ubuntu MATE additionally supports PowerPC. (Lubuntu does too, but they are lacking testers ATM)
[16:14] <S-USA|Phone> Ack! Net split!
[16:14] <bugnuts> sin ack!
[16:15] <OerHeks> teward arm 8 is missing on that page :-D
[16:15] <OerHeks> like rasp pi2
[16:15] <bugnuts> or is it ack sin
[16:15] <bugnuts> or is it ack sin forgot the packet order :S
[16:15] <llutz> OerHeks: rpi2 is armv7
[16:16] <Mozai> I found the answer to my postfix problem.  I assumed `mail` was part of postfix, but it's actually GNU mailutils.  And GNU mailutils appends `hostname` when making the message and before handing it to the local MTA.
[16:16] <DrUbuntu> nja
[16:19] <S-USA|Phone> Ding dong, the witch is dead
[16:19]  * OerHeks is alive
[16:22] <DrUbuntu> nja
[16:23] <S-USA|Phone> Oh Dang it, that was meant for #u-o
[16:24] <k1l_> DrUbuntu: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here
[16:24] <asdf-> i'm looking into SSD caching on Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm finding all sorts of tutorials for dm-cache, bcache, etc. that are a couple years old... can anyone recommend a HOWTO that is relatively new with what is considered today's best practices?
[16:25] <basti> hi
[16:25] <basti> wayne
[16:31] <sab> someone knows rsnapshot? I want to rsnapshot from one box to another. but it says permission failed.
[16:32] <asdf-> sab, lookup chown and chmod
[16:32] <asdf-> change the permissions
[16:32] <MacroMan> I'm reading about more in depth optimizing of my server. I keep finding references to net.core.somaxconn being set to 128 as default, but mine seems to be 3281300 which just doesn't seem right.
[16:33] <nikola_> hello?
[16:33] <MacroMan> Is there something I'm missing? I'm using cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max to check
[16:33] <IamTrying> Ubuntu still did not fixed this issue. 1) sound settings, how can i setup headphone volume and speaker volume? (my endusers have to go to every time in terminal and type alsamixer and then find where is headphone bar.)
[16:33] <the_drow> how do I prevent ubuntu from deleting the apt cache after apt-get install?
[16:34] <llutz> sab: if you want to preserve permissions, you need to run rsnapshot as root. destination has to be a filesystem supporting hardlinks
[16:34] <the_drow> I just tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/51567/why-does-var-cache-apt-archives-keep-deleting-files and it doesn't really work
[16:34] <MacroMan> Doh. Wrong command to check. Ignore me
[16:35] <oscar-> Hi, how do I find out the services, that need a restart, after I have upgraded my system?
[16:38] <goddard> when you connect a bluetooth speaker for example it connects and switches to play sound on that device automatically, but it doesn't switch the device in the sound controls so every time you have to go into the sound settings and set the default device.
[16:38] <goddard> who or what is the project to look at for this?
[16:39] <goddard> i imagine the sound controller and the the sound settings manager are different systems
[16:39] <goddard> ?
[16:41] <anonymous287> hi, i need help
[16:41] <nicomachus> goddard: pulseaudio. specifically, you may want to look into pavucontrol, which is PulseAudio Volume Control. You can set default devices there easily.
[16:43] <anonymous287> i installed duc no-ip  in wine, but i can't access to my account with it, it tell me "Timeout requests"
[16:45] <OerHeks> anonymous287, try the wine channel for applicationhelp
[16:45] <OerHeks> !wine
[16:45] <oscar-> In other words: How do I map running processes to the name of the service, they result from?
[16:46] <goddard> nicomachus: so you set the devices in priority level or something?
[16:48] <S-USA|Phone> Grrr
[16:48] <S-USA|Phone> I hate I/O errors in syscalls
[16:50] <XATRIX> Hi again. Why i can't install linux-headers
[16:50] <XATRIX> http://www.fpaste.org/319055/54691029/
[16:50] <OerHeks> XATRIX, what ubuntu version, 15.04 ??
[16:50] <XATRIX> Yea
[16:50] <OerHeks> it is dead, EOL, upgrade.
[16:50] <OerHeks> !vivid
[16:51] <XATRIX> Sorry, 15.10
[16:51] <DirtyCajunWork> dat 1 day ago doe
[16:52] <XATRIX> I tried stock kernel 4.2.0, but i have messed my laptop with it
[16:52] <OerHeks> XATRIX, strange comand >>  sudo dpkg -i Kernel/linux-headers-4.5.0-040500rc2-generic_4.5.0-040500rc2.201601312230_amd64.deb
[16:52] <XATRIX> Yeap, i did it. currently on this kernel
[16:52] <XATRIX> But i can't install headers
[16:53] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) # for current running kernel
[16:53] <XATRIX> OerHeks: this kernel was downloaded directly from ppa
[16:54] <oscar-> XATRIX, install the missing dependency package first ("linux-headers-4.5.0-040500rc2-generic depends on linux-headers-4.5.0-040500rc2"), then try again
[16:54] <OerHeks> XATRIX, looks like not a kernel from mainline, so i cannot help you
[16:54] <XATRIX> OerHeks: i took it here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.5-rc2-wily/
[16:55] <XATRIX> oscar-: kk, let's see
[16:58] <isp> Hi, i've installed Ubuntu (15.10) and used the windows ESP in the install wizard, i can see an entry for ubuntu in efibootmgr and when i enter windows boot manager itself, but when i try to boot it the machine just reboot and switches to windows
[16:58] <XATRIX> cool! seems i've made it
[16:59] <isp> do i have to install grub seperatly or something ?
[16:59] <EriC^^> isp: hp laptop?
[17:00] <isp> EriC^^: no, an intel nuc
[17:00] <EriC^^> isp: paste efibootmgr -v
[17:03] <Charly41> I have the ubuntu with the home folder encrypted, is it possible to change it to the normal  version? Some people told me that the encrypted version give some problems and happens that user lose everything.
[17:03] <Charly41> users*
[17:04] <oscar-> Charly41, you should have a recent backup anyway anytime.
[17:04] <OerHeks> Charly41, fastest way is to create an new user, add that one to sudoers, and remove the encrypted user.
[17:05] <OerHeks> and allways backup indeed
[17:06] <isp> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14889302
[17:07] <Charly41> so if I try to create a new user ubuntu will ask me if I want the normal home folder or the encrypted one...
[17:09] <OerHeks> use adduser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[17:11] <Charly41> thanks
[17:16] <homa_> hi my friends
[17:16] <areski> hello, I upgraded to 15.10 and when I go to Ubuntu Dash, it cannot find any applications... any ideas on how to fix this?
[17:18] <R13ose> Is there a way to make Mac OS X run on Ubuntu?
[17:18] <OerHeks> R13ose, the UELA only allows you to run osx virtualised on osx.
[17:19] <R13ose> UELA?
[17:19] <homa_> R13ose, install virtualbox
[17:19] <OerHeks> apples osx uela
[17:19] <isp> *eula ?
[17:19] <homa_> install virtualbox from www.oracle.com
[17:31] <boodllebat> whenever i shut down ubuntu a screen flashes for second which says lightdm [on] how to get that screen ?
[17:31] <boodllebat> and it shows other logs too , i want to see those logs
[17:37] <boodllebat> anybody up ?
[17:38] <HamRadio> boodllebat, here
[17:38] <boodllebat> whenever i shut down ubuntu a screen flashes for second which says lightdm [on] how to get that screen ?
[17:38] <boodllebat> HamRadio: !
[17:38] <HamRadio> No idea boodllebat
[17:38] <HamRadio> Sorry
[17:39] <pastrani> Whats up people!
[17:40] <OerHeks> boodllebat,  those messages appear in the log for the last session  /var/log/kern1.log or /var/log/messages
[17:41] <boodllebat> OerHeks: strange i dont have messages
[17:42] <OerHeks> boodllebat, oh correct, /var/log/messages has been deleted from Natty.
[17:42] <OerHeks> ( 11.04 )
[17:43] <boodllebat> OerHeks: no kern1.log is not that screen
[17:50] <elliot_> hi
[17:51] <Bassem> is there away to make Ubuntu an advanced router that give Internet to specific MAC address on the network
[17:55] <v0r0nwe> Bassem: generally, to build an "advanced router", i made good experiences with ipcop or ipfire, which are distros build exactly for router/firewalls
[17:55] <v0r0nwe> but you can do the same with ubuntu, i guess
[17:56] <Bassem> v0r0nwe, is ipcop or ipfire and applications or what?
[17:56] <v0r0nwe> no it's a linux distro like ubuntu is
[17:57] <boodllebat> does anybody know what is onion router in log it says starting onion router but i dont remember setting up Tor relay network
[18:00] <boodllebat> OerHeks: do you know
[18:02] <EriC^^> isp: have you solved the problem yet?
[18:02] <k1l_> boodllebat: onion is tor stuff. so you installed tor for browsing or such? we dont know what you did
[18:03] <boodllebat> k1l_: i remember last year i just used tor browser , i did not created any relay network do you know how can i remove it ?
[18:11] <nascentmind> Hi. When I do a systemd-analyze blame I get dev-sda5.service at ~25s. Why is this so slow?
[18:12] <EriC^^> nascentmind: what's /etc/fstab  have
[18:13] <nascentmind> proc, / and swap, /dev/scd0
[18:13] <Bassem> v0r0nwe, do you know how can i do it with ubuntu?
[18:13] <ZoderUch2> hey
[18:13] <ZoderUch2> hi
 if an asp.net sample application does run with xsp4 --port  how do i enable that in  apache2 with modmono ?
[18:13] <k1l_> nascentmind: what is sda5?
[18:13] <nascentmind> k1l_, partition mounted as root.
[18:14] <jgilje> So my Xubuntu install is 5 gigs on my ssd, and i have 16 gb ram. Is it possible to run xubuntu from ramdisk to make it faster?
[18:14] <DaMastah> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu server 15.10 and I have a problem with aufs : I mount several different directories on several mount points (all rw). All 4 mounts work when I read them but I can only create files on one (others tell "device is busy"). It kinda blows my mind because they are all setup the same. Can someone please help me ? :')
[18:14] <v0r0nwe> Bassem: sorry, no. if you are planning a machine to use only for such thing (router/firewall) i would use a distro specialized for that, which would be ipcop, ipfire or others.
[18:15] <nascentmind> EriC^^,  proc, / and swap, /dev/scd0
[18:15] <k1l_> nascentmind: got it fsckd this boot?
[18:15] <nascentmind> k1l_, no
[18:16] <donga> h
[18:16] <Bassem> v0r0nwe, can i run ipcop as VM on ubuntu
[18:16] <Pipapop> Hello! How can I force an upgrade of network-manager to the vivid version when I'm on 14.04 (trusty) ?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> Pipapop, vivid is no longer supported
[18:17] <v0r0nwe> Bassem: sure, you can run any os as vm on ubuntu.
[18:17] <Pipapop> BluesKaj: ok :/
[18:17] <Pipapop> I have a network-manager problem and the bug resolution on launchpad was to upgrade to vivid version.
[18:18] <Bassem> v0r0nwe, ok what i want to do is allow internet to specific mac address on my network and control it's internet bandwidth,,will ipcop do that
[18:18] <VoidWhisperer> What's the best way to use ubuntu desktop when there is minimal space availiable? I'm installing it into a 15GB partition
[18:18] <VoidWhisperer> :/
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Pipapop, what is your networki NIC /chip?
[18:19] <v0r0nwe> VoidWhisperer: 15GB is way enough.
[18:19] <Pipapop> I lost my network on ubuntu (works on Win7). I managed to get it back but now the wifi only works when the ethernet cable is wired. I can't find any help on google
[18:19] <VoidWhisperer> v0r0nwe, won't it mean i have to store everything on a cloud server or an external drive?
[18:19] <Pipapop> BluesKaj: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
[18:19] <v0r0nwe> Bassem: don't remember, just checkout the ipcop or ipfire distros.
[18:19] <Pipapop> BluesKaj: from lspci
[18:20] <v0r0nwe> VoidWhisperer: a sorry that's the whole space? ok there are some lightweight desktop environments like lxde (which is Lubuntu, then) but i don't think they give you more than just 1 GB, but i don't really know.
[18:20] <eelstrebor> dnscrypt - i downloaded the resolvers list from github but it's html encoded. is there a true .csv file i can download?
[18:21] <ioria> VoidWhisperer, you could install from mini.iso and install openbox
[18:22] <v0r0nwe> VoidWhisperer: why do you have only 15GB? soon or later, regardless of which lightweight (or not) distro, you will need more space anyway if you start use it productively and "really" work with it
[18:22] <VoidWhisperer> I'm kind of stuck here, tryin to dualboot ubuntu with windows on my surface pro 3
[18:22] <VoidWhisperer> which as it turns out, partitioning on windows 10 on a 128GB SSD is a huge pain
[18:22] <v0r0nwe> VoidWhisperer: or you can install a minimal system and install only the few packages you need
[18:23] <Pipapop> BluesKaj: my bug was almost exactly this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1415702
[18:23] <k1l_> VoidWhisperer: install in just one partition. no seperate / and /home partitions. how much ram you got?
[18:25] <Pipapop> networkmanager was respawning to fast and it was stopped. I thought it was a kernel problem because I had a upgrade recently and did not reboot from 1 week but the problem was still there with the previous kernel
[18:31] <isp> EriC^^: no :(
[18:39] <fscd> hello! i have stuff on ~/Maildir/new but running `mail` gives `No mail for USER`. sometime before it showed new mail's correctly. what can i do to understand and fix this?
[18:42] <llutz> fscd: does it work, after you set "export MAIL=$HOME/Maildir"
[18:44] <_pash> hello i am trying to install linux intel haswell hd graphics
[18:44] <_pash> and i canat download the graphics installer from 01.org because there seems to be an error
[18:44] <_pash> any tips?
[18:45] <fscd> llutz: let me try
[18:45] <fscd> llutz: yes it does. thank you! why didn't I need to set that env var before?
[18:46] <llutz> fscd: idk, maybe it was already set somewhere
[18:46] <fscd> llutz: okay, ill set that envvar on .bashrc, thanks!
[18:48] <_pash> how can i install linux intel hd integrated haswell drivers?
[18:50] <Dreaman> how to install win 10 :)
[18:50] <Chris93> Hello World, whats*s up?
[18:51] <k1l_> Chris93: technical ubuntu support :)
[18:51] <Chris93> okay. How can I help?
[18:53] <_pash> Chris93: 01.org doesnt work, can i somehow install intel drivers
[18:53] <_pash> graphics?
[18:54] <_pash> Dreaman: thats funny, have you found a mirror to 01.org?
[18:54] <k1l_> _pash: what gives you "lsb_release -d" in terminal?
[18:54] <Chris93> actually it should work. Have you tried it from other system?
[18:54] <_pash> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[18:55] <_pash> Chris93: i tried it from my phone and it doesnt
[18:55] <Chris93> ok
[18:55] <_pash> it was down
[18:55] <_pash> now they took it down for maintenance
[18:55] <k1l_> _pash: why do you want to install a driver? its in the kernel already
[18:56] <sergiuasd> Hi
[18:56] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[18:56] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.5.0-040500rc2-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[18:56] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity Distro: Ubuntu 15.10 wily  k1l_ i just kidding
[18:56] <_pash> well k1l_ i get better performance of MATLAB on Windows, but i mostly work on Linux, so the only different thing are the drivers, currently its using mesa
[18:56] <k1l_> !ot | Dreaman
[18:56] <Dreaman> ок
[18:57] <sergiuasd> Iam using Ubuntu, i Wanted to ask.. I bought NEW harddrive SATA 3, and it died at 3 day. Iam asking myself, maybe my power supply kills hard drivers?
[18:57] <Chris93> It is in the Kernel already, but sometimes Intel has new drivers. I think you have to install *.deb.
[18:57] <Dreaman> и усе убунту
[18:57] <Dreaman> i use ubuntu
[18:57] <sergiuasd> Already 2 hard drivers died in last week, maybe power supply is guilty..
[18:57] <_pash> k1l_: Chris93: why do you think i get better matlab speed on windows than ubuntu
[18:57] <k1l_> Dreaman: enough offtopic now. you were warned enough times. use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:57] <_pash> and the difference is significant
[18:58] <Chris93> I don*t think Ubuntu broke your hard drive.
[18:58] <k1l_> _pash: "uname -a" gives you what?
[18:58] <ZoderUch2> hi
 if an asp.net sample application does run with xsp4 --port  how do i enable that in  apache2 with modmono ?
[18:58] <_pash> k1l_: 3.19.0-49-generic #55~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 11:24:31 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:58] <sergiuasd> Chris93, no, i think power supply, can powr supply hard hard driver?:)
[18:58] <sergiuasd> harm*
[18:58] <Chris93> pASH> Because the drivers are mostly newer for windows.
[18:59] <_pash> right so what would be a good linux solution?
[18:59] <_pash> to improve performance?
[18:59] <k1l_> _pash: you could test the 4.2 kernel from wily. install the wily lts kernel package
[19:00] <k1l_> _pash: linux-generic-lts-wily
[19:00] <_pash> right
[19:00] <Chris93> what do you want to perform with your graphic card?
[19:00] <_pash> what would that improve?
[19:00] <_pash> ill try it now
[19:01] <_pash> Chris93: i am working on a matlab project for uni
[19:01] <_pash> and it just runs faster in windows than on ubuntu, but i dont like win. its mostly for rotating and resizing images
[19:01] <k1l_> _pash: intel drivers are in the kernel.
[19:02] <_pash> k1l_: ah yes
[19:02] <_pash> k1l_: is that the same as running ubuntu 15?
[19:02] <k1l_> _pash: no
[19:02] <_pash> k1l_: or would that possibly give a boost?
[19:03] <Chris93> Possibly. But it would only give a small boost.
[19:04] <liquidSignal> Hello, people. How do I install MatLab on an Ubuntu 14.04 machine?
[19:04] <pbx> liquidSignal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[19:05] <ZoderUch2> hi
[19:06]  * liquidSignal thanks pbx
[19:07] <deniz946> Hello, i have ubuntu server installed with apache2 and my port 80 opened, but when i try to access frm outside of my lan, i can't conenct
[19:07] <deniz946> the same way i have another ports opened and for them i can access
[19:07] <deniz946> but not for the apache web server
[19:07] <deniz946> any help please
[19:09] <_pash> k1l_: it gave me a 1s boost :) thanks!
[19:09] <_pash> is there anything else i could do?
[19:09] <CreackerJack> k1l_: to nervius my friend
[19:09] <CreackerJack> :)
[19:10] <k1l_> CreackerJack: really? you rae evading a mute to make even more offtopic?
[19:11] <CreackerJack> i say ok
[19:11] <k1l_> CreackerJack: join ##chat if you want to talk with others. this channel is _only_ for technical support.
[19:11] <Chris93> send something from your MathLab. If it is possible?
[19:20] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am trying to use gparted to move a partition to the right.  the partition is NTFS and this is on a live cd.  gparted is saying it can't read NTFS.
[19:21] <bump> what livecd are you using?
[19:21] <sudormrf> ubuntu 15.04
[19:21] <sudormrf> ntfs-3g is installed
[19:21] <bump> huh
[19:21] <bump> does mounting the partition work?
[19:22] <sudormrf> no
[19:22] <sudormrf> it is ghosted out
[19:22] <bekks> use the mount command.
[19:23] <sudormrf> hmm
[19:23] <sudormrf> it is saying it can't find /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[19:23] <bekks> sudormrf: I doubt that. What is the command you are using, and what is the exact output?
[19:24] <sudormrf> bekks, sudo mount /dev/sda -> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab
[19:24] <sudormrf> same result with sda1
[19:24] <sudormrf> oh derp
[19:24] <bump> oh that's because you need to give it a mount point
[19:24] <sudormrf> need to point it at a folder
[19:24] <sudormrf> hang on
[19:24] <DaMastah> Hi I'm on 15.10 server and I have a problem with aufs : when I aggregate two cifs mountpoints I can't write to them, I get "device is busy". Please help :)
[19:24] <sudormrf> ok there we go
[19:24] <sudormrf> didn't mount
[19:24] <sudormrf> but
[19:25] <sudormrf> mount: /dev/sda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[19:25] <sudormrf> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, or other error
[19:25] <llutz> sudormrf: mount partitions, not the drive
[19:25] <sudormrf> derp
[19:25] <sudormrf> ok no errors
[19:25] <bekks> when doing what?
[19:25] <bekks> We cant see what you are doing so you have to tell us.
[19:26] <sudormrf> bekks, mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp -> no error.
[19:26] <bump> sudormrf if your partition is write protected that probably means it is "dirty"
[19:26] <bekks> bump: he tried to mount the entire drive.
[19:26] <sudormrf> bump, will that prevent me from moving the partitions around?
[19:26] <bekks> sudormrf: yes.
[19:26] <orodorienthe> miss
[19:26] <bump> but if it doesn't give you a dirty error on mount then it isn't dirty
[19:27] <sudormrf> interesting
[19:27] <sudormrf> bump, go on
[19:27] <bump> okay so you have successfully mounted the partition?
[19:27] <sudormrf> bump,
[19:27] <sudormrf> bump, yes
[19:27] <ash_workz> when you get an md5 file along with your file, are you supposed to do something along the lines of `diff <(md5 file) file.md5` ?
[19:28] <sudormrf> the primary OS on this is windows and when the image was deployed it was not done correctly.  the partition table looks like this: c drive - system reserved instead of system reserved - c drive
[19:28] <bump> okay, now unmount it, since we've confirmed that the ntfs-3g drivers are working properly
[19:28] <sudormrf> so now, I cloned the drive to something with more capacity and have this c drive - system reserved - unallocated space
[19:28] <bekks> sudormrf: PAstebin "sudo fdisk -l".
[19:28] <sudormrf> would like to move the system reserved before the c drive
[19:28] <sudormrf> bump, unmounting
[19:28] <bekks> sudormrf: that will tell us how the partition table looks like.
[19:28] <bump> yes an fdisk layout would be nice
[19:29] <bump> but I don't know if you can move a partition in front of another partition
[19:29] <disconnected> hey, I've got 2nd screen connected and I feel some "lags" on it... I've got 2 cards in my laptop - intel one and nvidia, how can I 'debug' this issue?
[19:29] <ph88> can i refresh the desktop somehow? everything is black instead of mouse pointer
[19:29] <bump> but I don't believe it actually matters which order the system reserved is in in windows, as long as everything is pointing to everything correctly
[19:29] <ph88> except mouse pointer *
[19:29] <sudormrf> installing pastebinit
[19:29] <ash_workz> maybe most people ignore the md5
[19:29] <ash_workz> file
[19:30] <bekks> bump: correct, it is irrelevant to windows.
[19:30] <sudormrf> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14894339
[19:30] <ash_workz> or maybe it uses openssl ? I dunno how to md5 a file in linux
[19:30] <sudormrf> there is unallocated space that isn't showing
[19:30] <sudormrf> 121.10gb
[19:31] <sudormrf> would either like to move sda2 before sda1 or move the unallocated space in to sda1
[19:31] <ash_workz> oh I guess you're supposed to use md5sum
[19:32] <bump> sudormrf you don't actually need to rearrange those, you should just extend the volume to the desired size, and then make sure your BCD (windows boot config) is correct
[19:33] <ash_workz> if a file is gzipped, are you supposed to run md5sum on the zip or unzipped file?... zipped right?
[19:33] <bekks> ash_workz: depends which md5sum you have for comparison.
[19:34] <sudormrf> bump, I can't extend the volume because it is not allowing me to select the unallocated space because it is after sda2
[19:34] <sudormrf> either that or it is because I am getting the error in gparted about ntfs
[19:34] <Chris93> I would definitely use md5sum
[19:35] <bump> oh I see now we're back to the reason for what you said in the beginning
[19:35] <bump> so you can't "drag" the sda2 partition to the right?
[19:35] <sudormrf> bump, correct
[19:35] <bekks> sudormrf: Which error do you get in gparted?
[19:35] <ash_workz> bekks: if I have 2 files file.ext.gz and file.ext.md5 ... does that imply the md5sum is on the uncompressed file?
[19:35] <bump> I believe so ash_workz
[19:35] <sudormrf> bekks, the red ! saying that it is unable to read the contents of the drive
[19:35] <bekks> ash_workz: look into the file.ext.md5 sum, it will tell you which file was used.
[19:36] <sudormrf> the cause might be a missing software package....ntfsprogs/ntfs-3g
[19:36] <geirha> ash_workz: Doesn't the md5 file contain the filename?
[19:36] <bekks> sudormrf: If that would be the case, you would have been unable to mount it.
[19:36] <ash_workz> geirha: no
[19:36] <geirha> unconventional
[19:37] <bump> hey sudormrf, close gparted, then open up a terminal
[19:37] <sudormrf> bekks, right.  and I was able to mount it.  so I don't know why gparted is reporting an error
[19:37] <ash_workz> just a hash
[19:37] <bump> and type sudo -i
[19:37] <sudormrf> bump, done
[19:37] <bump> and then type gparted
[19:37] <Chris93> is there a good program to convert videos?
[19:37] <sudormrf> bump, was already running gparted as su
[19:37] <sudormrf> same error
[19:37] <bekks> no need for sudo -i :)
[19:37] <bump> aww
[19:37] <geirha> ash_workz: Oh well, try both:  gzip -cd file.ext.gz | md5sum - file.ext.gz
[19:37] <bekks> sudo gparted would be sufficient.
[19:37] <daftykins> i thought we tended to advise against 'sudo' with GUI utilities
[19:38] <bump> we do
[19:38] <bump> sudo -i drops you to su
[19:38] <bekks> it doesnt.
[19:38] <bekks> sudo -i opens an interactive shell using sudo.
[19:38] <alex__> hellp
[19:38] <alex__> hello
[19:38] <sudormrf> so are we stuck?
[19:38] <sudormrf> :D
[19:39] <bump> do you have any other live cd's you could try? all things considered, it should be able to play with the partition since you were able to manually play with it
[19:39] <sudormrf> bump, yeah.  one sec
[19:39] <toc> k
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Use [ gparted-pkexec ] instead
[19:40] <bump> oh what does that do SonikkuAmerica
[19:41] <daftykins> asks for password on run
[19:41] <daftykins> it often comes up in the dash or run dialogue box when you start typing gparted
[19:41] <SonikkuAmerica> It uses the polkit authentication method instead of the older gksu method
[19:41] <sudormrf> doing about 100 things at once.  trying another live CD now
[19:42] <bekks> sudormrf: How about just doing one thin after another then? :)
[19:42] <sudormrf> bekks, unfortunately that isn't an option.
[19:42] <daftykins> bekks: sudormrf never was famed for a logical order of tasks ;)
[19:43] <bekks> daftykins: :P
[19:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Lol
[19:43] <sudormrf> bekks, only person in the office today means that I am the only one doing everything.  makes it tough to do only one thing at a time
[19:43] <daftykins> wow you're in here asking about a work based thing?
[19:43] <bekks> sudormrf: and that windows box your are trying to break with gparted is the main office computer?
[19:43] <sudormrf> was trying parted magic but it was an old version that wasn't booting correctly
[19:44] <sudormrf> bekks, nah
[19:44] <bekks> sudormrf: Well, then do your job first. :)
[19:44] <sudormrf> bekks, this is part of the job
[19:44] <bekks> sudormrf: you just said "nah".
[19:44] <sudormrf> anyway, booted to ubuntu 15.10 gnome and it is giving me the same issue
[19:44] <sudormrf> it is not the main office computer
[19:44] <sudormrf> which is what the nah was in response to
[19:44] <sudormrf> anyways, same error
[19:45] <daftykins> do i smell LVM?
[19:45] <sudormrf> no.  you don't.
[19:46] <Pipapop> Hi again. Can someone share a basic /etc/networking/interfaces file?
[19:46] <daftykins> ah, so then you should backup and re-do from scratch so as to save everyones time
[19:46] <Pipapop> My wifi doesn't work without ethernet cable plugged in.
[19:46] <daftykins> backup, repartition, restore -> done
[19:46] <daftykins> Pipapop: typically the file doesn't even refer to the interfaces since network manager needs to take control of them
[19:46] <Pipapop> I had to manually add two lines in the previous file to enable eth0 connexion but wlan0 doesn't show up until I plug the ethernet cable
[19:46] <sudormrf> bekks, bump any suggestions?
[19:46] <bekks> sudormrf: backup, reinstall.
[19:47] <sudormrf> bekks, not an option.
[19:47] <ash_workz> so the normal way to do this is `md5sum file -c file.md5` ?
[19:47] <sudormrf> if the suggestion was going to be nuke it and restart I would have done that without cloning the drive
[19:47] <sudormrf> lel
[19:47] <sudormrf> I will figure it out.  thanks anyway.
[19:48] <daftykins> do what i said, it makes sense
[19:48] <sudormrf> no.
[19:48] <bilb_ono> has anyone here used the glances monitor tool?
[19:48] <Pipapop> daftykins: ok, but my network-manager went berserk after a reboot. I had no connection available but the network worked on Win7. I managed to add two lines in the interfaces file to get internet back but I am stuck with the cable now :/
[19:48] <daftykins> sudormrf: any particular reason you're fighting with sense again today, or do you just not like me teasing you earlier? :D
[19:48] <bilb_ono> im trying to find a way to show the mem usage in kb instead of MB
[19:48] <bekks> sudormrf: good luck then, bein on your own.
[19:48] <bekks> *being
[19:48] <daftykins> Pipapop: ok so your install is probably borked somehow
[19:48] <sudormrf> daftykins, for a variety of reasons.
[19:48] <Pipapop> daftykins: by berserk, I mean that It tried to start and respawn 10 times before being shut down
[19:49] <daftykins> sudormrf: ok well have fun with that - you're only making things harder on yourself :)
[19:49] <sudormrf> bekks, deleting it and reinstalling is not an option, that is why.
[19:49] <sudormrf> daftykins, enough.
[19:49] <daftykins> er no, you don't get to tell me that actually :)
[19:49] <Pipapop> daftykins: yep I think so. How can I reinstall correctly the network-manager package ?
[19:49] <daftykins> it's pretty worrying you work with these systems for a living and yet come in here with the basics so often
[19:49] <daftykins> ho-hum.
[19:49] <bilb_ono> pls no fight
[19:50] <bekks> sudormrf: As I said, you are on your own now.
[19:51] <sudormrf> bekks, word.
[19:51] <Pipapop> daftykins: I found an answer on askubuntu, involving a live USB. I'll try that
[19:51] <sudormrf> there we go.  much better.
[19:52] <sudormrf> bekks, understood.  I appreciate you and bump trying to help out.  I am sure I can work around it.  going to try it in parted magic.
[19:52] <daftykins> Pipapop: ok. i'd have tested from one at least
[19:52] <sudormrf> see if some of the other tools there will help out.
[19:52] <daftykins> most folks learnt in the win9x era not to trust foolish partitioning tools
[19:53] <bekks> sudormrf: Is the data on that disk worth to be kept?
[19:54] <sudormrf> bekks, the point is to do this non-destructively if I can.  doing it destructively will add a lot of time to this.  whoever imaged the machine did something incorrectly
[19:54] <bekks> sudormrf: So image that machine correctly.
[19:54] <bekks> sudormrf: And save our and YOUR time.
[19:54] <sudormrf> bekks, that will take more time than fixing the partitions.  believe me.
[19:54] <Pipapop> daftykins: yeah, i'll try if it works with the LiveUSB before trying to reinstall. Safety first
[19:54] <ikonia> I doubt that
[19:54] <sudormrf> that is the last case resort
[19:55] <bekks> sudormrf: I strongly doubt that.
[19:55] <sudormrf> ikonia, if you saw our imaging process you would
[19:55] <sudormrf> bekks, see comment to ikonia
[19:55] <ikonia> then fix that
[19:55] <ikonia> stop working with broken processes/tools
[19:55] <ikonia> stop wasting time maintaining junk
[19:55] <sudormrf> ikonia, oh, if only life were that easy
[19:55] <ikonia> invest the time fixing the junk then roll out fix
[19:55] <ikonia> it is
[19:55] <daftykins> it actually is, you just don't know what you're doing it seems
[19:55] <tgm4883> it is
[19:55] <sudormrf> ikonia, unfortunately carte blanche does not exist here
[19:56] <ikonia> then work within the process
[19:56] <ikonia> and feed back you need X time to fix the image
[19:56] <sudormrf> already am working on that
[19:56] <ikonia> hilight the flaw in the process/tool
[19:56] <sudormrf> already have
[19:56] <sudormrf> anyways
[19:56] <ikonia> job done then
[19:56] <sudormrf> this is beyond the scope of this chat
[19:56] <sudormrf> thanks for your help guys
[19:56] <ikonia> take the time to build the image correctly
[19:56] <ikonia> as you've fed back thats what's going to happen
[19:56] <tgm4883> sudormrf: what are you talking about. You work in a company that is small enough that you are the only person that can deal with the computers right now. Grow a pair and tell your dad you are fixing the imaging process
[19:57] <daftykins> XD
[19:57] <tgm4883> I just came in and I'm already tired of hearing about this
[19:57] <ikonia> well, I'd handle it a little better than that
[19:57] <bekks> tgm4883: That will end up in having no dinner.
[19:58] <SonikkuAmerica> aaaaand he is tired of the snakes on this plane :)
[20:02] <sudormrf> tgm4883, ugh.  you really have no idea.  I am already in process of fixing it, however it has been deprioritized by the powers that be.  and again, this is beyond the scope of this room.  if you wish to carry on this discussion in a *rational* manner, it would be better suited for offtopic.
[20:03] <bekks> sudormrf: Any further continuation of this discussion would be even more time wasted.
[20:03] <tgm4883> alright everyone simmer down na
[20:04] <sudormrf> what's new and cool in 16.04, lads?
[20:04] <sudormrf> :D
[20:05] <daftykins> that would be off topic here - also lads is sexist
[20:05] <tgm4883> you need riddlin
[20:05] <ikonia> tgm4883: enough please
[20:05] <daftykins> feel free to direct any future release chat to #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-discuss
[20:05] <ikonia> let it go,
[20:05] <ikonia> sudormrf: systemd is the main difference for an LTS release, discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:06] <sudormrf> ikonia, didn't know that channel existed :D.  thanks!
[20:06] <ikonia> no problem
[20:08] <daftykins> ah wow i must have been afforded a good /ignore despite stating fact :>
[20:11] <Jupp__> @Jupp__
[20:15] <sergiuasd> hi
[20:17] <sergiuasd> iam using ubuntu livecd without hdd, on left luncher, it says that there is 1.1GB volume
[20:17] <sergiuasd> can i donwload some file with 1gb size?
[20:18] <sergiuasd> :)
[20:18] <akik> sergiuasd: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/dev/ look under there
[20:25] <quesker> trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer but my iso doesn't have a /install/netboot dir
[20:26] <quesker> I don't have a usb stick handy so I wanted to install using pxe instead
[20:28] <quesker> is there a different installer iso I need to download?
[20:28] <daftykins> i think you're just going to make life 100x more painful, just go obtain one :)
[20:31] <ioria> quesker, " (last edited 2010-07-24 )"  i think is old
[20:31] <ioria> quesker,  i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[20:31] <quesker> doesn't sound like usb installer is much simpler but ok
[20:33] <quesker> that page expects you to have ubuntu already running
[20:33] <quesker> if I did I wouldn't be in this predicament  :)
[20:38] <ioria> quesker,  nope, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto#Creating_your_NFS_installation
[20:42] <raul> holaaa
[20:46] <Kartagis> can you help me about my middle button not working anymore?
[20:49] <Penorsaurus> hi
[20:49] <Penorsaurus> I am having an issue with crontabs not working
[20:49] <Penorsaurus> * */1 * * * reboot
[20:49] <Penorsaurus> @reboot /home/jorged/startup.sh
[20:49] <Penorsaurus> for some reason, the reboot isn't working
[20:50] <Penorsaurus> I want it to reboot every hour
[20:50] <bekks> Penorsaurus: Can you show us the content of that startup.sh?
[20:50] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: that would reboot your machine every minute....
[20:50] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, this was for testing
[20:50] <Pici> Penorsaurus: what Seveas said, assuming you put it in root's crontab.
[20:50] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: and whether it works at all depends on which crontab it is in
[20:50] <Penorsaurus> it still does not work.
[20:50] <PerpetualWar__> hello ppl
[20:50] <Penorsaurus> I am logged in as the root user. I am using crontab -e.
[20:51] <PerpetualWar__> when I wanna block certain IP using iptables
[20:51] <PerpetualWar__> how to restart iptables so change take effect ?
[20:51] <Penorsaurus> bekks, startup.sh works fine.
[20:51] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: try /sbin/reboot (and try */5 * * * * to give yourself time to login to disable it :))
[20:51] <PerpetualWar__> service iptables save
[20:51] <PerpetualWar__> iptables: unrecognized service
[20:51] <Seveas> PerpetualWar__: there's no such thing as an iptables service, that's a redhatism.
[20:52] <PerpetualWar__> ok so how do I make changes take effect ?
[20:52] <Seveas> PerpetualWar__: try ufw. (or write your own startup script that populates iptables)
[20:52] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, how can I reboot crontab so the chnages I did with crontab -e take effect
[20:52] <llutz> PerpetualWar__: iptables-save
[20:52] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: crontab changes take effect immediately
[20:52] <Seveas> llutz: that just dumps it to stdout
[20:53] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, so every 5 minutes, it should reboot, then?
[20:53] <llutz> Seveas: redirect to file, iptables-restore <file later
[20:53] <Seveas> to save it, iptables-save > /etc/iptables.conf. And in your startup script: iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.conf
[20:53] <Seveas> llutz: :)
[20:53] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: yup. If it doesn't, check /var/log/syslog for CRON
[20:54] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, i am going to change it to /1
[20:54] <Penorsaurus> so its every minute.
[20:54] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: don't. that'll not leace you enough time to log in and remove it if the cronjob works :)
[20:54] <Penorsaurus> I'm a local server
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> I have direct access to it.
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, thanks
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> that worked
[20:55] <Seveas> well, do as you please, but don't say you weren't warned :)
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> I'll change /1 to /60
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> for every 60 minutes?
[20:55] <Seveas> hten just do 0
[20:55] <cortexman> i'm not getting any visible errors, but after i log in the desktop is not rendering
[20:55] <Seveas> then it goes off at the top of the hour
[20:55] <cortexman> i don't see any errors in dmesg or Xorg.0.log
[20:55] <cortexman> any ideas/
[20:55] <cortexman> ?
[20:56] <PerpetualWar__> ok I saved to file and did iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.conf
[20:56] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, thank you
[20:56] <PerpetualWar__> still I see connection using netstat
[20:56] <lord4163> How do you port forward with ufw? I have an application running in a container that I want to expose.
[20:56] <Penorsaurus> Seveas,  it says "bad minute"
[20:57] <Seveas> PerpetualWar__: iptables rules don't kill existing connections (though when correctly written, no traffic will be allowed on that connection)
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> when I do /0
[20:57] <Seveas> Penorsaurus: I said 0, not */0
[20:57] <Seveas> you don't need to do */anything
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> oh, I see
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> so its at 0, not divisible by 0
[20:57] <PerpetualWar__> Seveas, you are saying even though its established conn, it will not allow traffic thru ?
[20:57] <Seveas> */5 -> every 5 minutes, 5 -> 5 minutes passed the hour
[20:57] <Seveas> etc...
[20:57] <Seveas> PerpetualWar__: if your rule is correct, yes.
[20:58] <PerpetualWar__> how can I just drop connection ?
[20:58] <springirl> Hi I've ubuntu installed on a 500gigs disk and I want to move that without losing any data to a bigger disk
[20:58] <mate|18745> hello im trying to install ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso to my usb stick so i can then instal it to my harddrive . but after doing dd if= of= ; sync  .. the usb says it say an invalid GPT partition that is missing a fake msdos partition. how do i correctly make a usb so i can use ubuntu? please help =(
[20:58] <Seveas> PerpetualWar__: restart the service that has it open.
[20:58] <PerpetualWar__> remove from established ?
[20:58] <llutz> PerpetualWar__: use tcpkill
[20:58] <springirl> is there a way to get an image of the current installation and copy it to the new disk?
[20:58] <Arthur__Hact> what
[20:58] <PerpetualWar__> llutz I cannot use that command
[20:59] <PerpetualWar__> tcpkill
[20:59] <PerpetualWar__> bash: tcpkill: command not found
[20:59] <llutz> !find tcpkill
[20:59] <Seveas> springirl: dd for a bit-by-bit copy (only useful if the disks are of the same size) or rsync for a file by file copy (where you need to be careful with which files to exclude)
[20:59] <llutz> PerpetualWar__: sudo apt-get install dsniff
[20:59] <mate|18745> how do i go about installing ubuntu then from iso
[21:00] <mate|18745> to either usable persistance usb or perferable harddrive and also persist usb
[21:00] <Seveas> mate|18745: turn the iso into a dvd or usb disk and install from that
[21:00] <mate|18745> i dont have a dvd
[21:00] <Seveas> usb stick works just fine
[21:00] <mate|18745> but not with dd?
[21:00] <Seveas> I haven't installed from DVD in years :)
[21:00] <mate|18745> so lost
[21:01] <Seveas> try usb-creator-gtk
[21:01] <mate|18745> i am only able to boot from porteus atm
[21:01] <Jordan_U_> mate|18745: What is the exact dd command you ran?
[21:01] <PerpetualWar__> llutz can u help me with usage ?
[21:01] <PerpetualWar__> tckill <ipaddress> not working
[21:01] <mate|18745> dd if=ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
[21:02] <Seveas> mate|18745: I'm not sure if that is supposed to work with Ubuntu's isos
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Seveas: It is.
[21:02] <llutz> PerpetualWar__: tcpkill host ip.ad.re.ss   "man tcpkill"
[21:02] <Seveas> Jordan_U: thanks! TIL :)
[21:02] <Jordan_U> mate|18745: And what happens when you try to boot from this USB drive?
[21:02] <_pash>  /bye
[21:02] <Seveas> bye _pash
[21:02] <mate|18745> do i need to setup partitions with fdisk before i do dd?
[21:03] <Jordan_U> mate|18745: No.
[21:03] <mate|18745> i didnt try to boot it, i just used dd cmd and then ran gparted and gparted said errors with gpt missing fake msdos
[21:03] <PerpetualWar__> thanks llutz
[21:03] <Arthur__Hact> alguem???
[21:03] <PerpetualWar__> thanks all
[21:03] <Arthur__Hact> alguembr???
[21:04] <bekks> !br | Arthur__Hact
[21:04] <Penorsaurus> Seveas, thanks for your help.
[21:04] <mate|18745> atm i am doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb; sync   .. then hoping i can find a solotion to be able to install ubuntu
[21:05] <mate|18745> i am running from ram atm and if i reboot i will be without iso
[21:06] <dr00p4> wow
[21:06] <LambdaComplex> Seveas: ...Why would dd not work?
[21:06] <dr00p4> can anyone recommend a twitter command-line app?
[21:06] <billbillbill> Hi, I have a laptop with encrypted LVM that is unable to boot into X because it says disk is full ... looking at the error messages in dmesg, it looks like it might have something to do with hibernation image (computer has been off for months, and maybe was hibernated when last shut off?)
[21:07] <billbillbill> when I run du, it shows plenty of space, but df shows device-mapper drive @ 100% full
[21:07] <billbillbill> trying to boot x shows can't create temp file because disk is full
[21:08] <Seveas> LambdaComplex: older isos didn't contain a partition table compatible with usb disks and the right bootloader. Booting from cd is a different process than booting from usb.
[21:08] <_Rarity> Hi. When doing an "cd mydir", which directory is searched for "mydir" first? Is it the working directory or the PATH?
[21:08] <Seveas> dr00p4: irssi+bitlbee
[21:08] <LambdaComplex> Seveas: Yeah, and I haven't seen a Linux iso in ages that wasn't a hybrid :P
[21:08] <LambdaComplex> springirl: you want rsync btw
[21:09] <Seveas> LambdaComplex: that just shows how long ago I actually looked at this :) I feel old.
[21:09] <dr00p4> Seveas:  thx, bitlbee - I'll investigate
[21:09] <mate|18745> rsync not sync?
[21:09] <LambdaComplex> mate|18745: rsync and sync are two very different things
[21:10] <mate|18745> how to fix the gparted program saying i have invalid gpt table thats missing fake msdos partion after doing dd from the ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:10] <Seveas> mate|18745: the rsync suggestion was aimed at springirl, who's looking to copy one system to another. sync is what you do to sync filesystems, it's not needed (but harmless) after dd.
[21:10] <billbillbill> Can anyone helphelphelp mememe?
[21:11] <billbillbill> I needneedneed to be able to boot into my XXX windows.
[21:11] <LambdaComplex> springirl: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_system_backup_with_rsync
[21:11] <mate|18745> might be able to use the vg cmds from grub resuce bill
[21:11] <Seveas> mate|18745: yes, your dd's have overwritten everything, including the partition table. If you want a partition table, create one :)
[21:12] <mate|18745> hrm so after i dd copy go into gparted and do add partition table msdos or gpt? and that wont overwrite the disk again?
[21:12] <LambdaComplex> Seveas: Shouldn't the iso have a valid partition table? O.o
[21:12] <Seveas> LambdaComplex: he then overwrote it from /dev/zero :)
[21:12] <LambdaComplex> Seveas: Well, that'd do it :p
[21:13] <mate|18745> ya but after the dev/zero is complete id like to put ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso back on it as Round 2
[21:13] <mate|18745> but correctly this time
[21:13] <Seveas> mate|18745: then stop faffing about with gparted
[21:13] <LambdaComplex> mate|18745: How'd you do it the first time?
[21:13] <Seveas> and just dd the iso onto it
[21:13] <mate|18745> dd if=ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
[21:14] <Seveas> you don't need the sync.
[21:14] <LambdaComplex> Er...why didn't that work? O.o
[21:14] <irreleph4nt> Hi all. I installed isc-dhcp-server yesterday. Was able to start, worked great. After reboot today the service won't start
[21:14] <mate|18745> when i plug it in after the dd , it mounts sdb which i cant access , sdb1 with Ubuntu files on it and sdb2 with efi folder
[21:14] <Seveas> irreleph4nt: show us the logs please.
[21:15] <Seveas> mate|18745: that seems fine. And it doesn't mount sdb, as it's not a filesystem. So that's why you can't access it.
[21:15] <cortexman> i can't boot into unity and i'm not getting any useful error messages...
[21:15] <Seveas> !pm | irreleph4nt
[21:16] <irreleph4nt> Seveas: Which logs would be relevant for you to see in this case?
[21:16] <xangua> cortexman: did you do anything before?
[21:16] <Seveas> irreleph4nt: the isc-dhcp-server logs that show the startup failure would probably be heplful...
[21:16] <mate|18745> so just ignore the gparted bad gpt table messages and try to boot it and then install to harddrive should work fine?
[21:16] <Seveas> mate|18745: yes.
[21:16] <mate|18745> awesome, thanks peeps
[21:16] <cortexman> xangua, i installed the wrong nvidia drivers, then reinstalled the system on top of the old one and it worked again. now it's not working again.
[21:18] <billbillbill> I don't know what to dododo!
[21:18] <anonymous287_> i have an error while launching tor
[21:19] <irreleph4nt> Seveas: Paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/14896288/  - I also included the service file as I had to rewrite it; stock wasn't working at all
[21:19] <anonymous287_> Feb 05 22:19:12.826 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the listener ports.
[21:19] <anonymous287_> Feb 05 22:19:12.826 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above.
[21:19] <mate|18745> will that usb be capable of running persistance after doing the dd copy or do i need to reinstall ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso to the usb with usbcreator after installing the hardrive from usb
[21:20] <Seveas> irreleph4nt: well, the clue is right there. Your new service file is just as broken (you're passing an empty variable to dirname)
[21:20] <Seveas> irreleph4nt: so revert back to the original one. I don't believe for a second that it's as broken as you say it is.
[21:21] <Seveas> irreleph4nt: and then edit /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server to match your environment. Then it should start.
[21:22] <Seveas> anonymous287_: so kill what's already listening on the tor port or run tor on another port...
[21:24] <irreleph4nt2> Seveas: I don't get why, but using the original service file works ...
[21:24] <irreleph4nt2> Seveas: I really don't understand that though. When I installed dhcp server yesterday, the stock file always crashed because it was unable to write a -pid file
[21:25] <irreleph4nt2> Seveas: Thank you for your help
[21:26] <springirl> Seveas: the other disk is bigger it should be 1 TB is there a possibility to do that?
[21:29] <Seveas> springirl: then rsync is your friend.
[21:29] <springirl> ok thank you so much
[21:29] <Seveas> springirl if you have no separate partion for home or something: rsync -avx /olddisk /mnt/newdisk
[21:30] <springirl> yes no separate partitions that's what I was looking for thank you so much
[21:30] <Seveas> err, rsync -avx / /mnt/newdisk
[21:31] <springirl> ok thanks
[21:35] <Bray90820> What's a good replacement or the question mark in the ubuntu file system
[21:35] <Bray90820> *For
[21:36] <Seveas> Bray90820: why would it need replacing?
[21:37] <Bray90820> stevens I have some errors when i add a question mark to fiiles and folders
[21:38] <Seveas> that's a bug in the app that processes them...
[21:38] <Seveas> spirit:/tmp/bray$ touch "Hello... is it me you're looking for?"
[21:38] <Seveas> spirit:/tmp/bray$ ls -la Hello*
[21:38] <Seveas> -rw-rw-r-- 1 dennis dennis 0 feb  5 22:37 Hello... is it me you're looking for?
[21:39] <Bray90820> springirl: Yes but what could I use instead of the question mark
[21:39] <tgm4883> Bray90820: how about the letter W
[21:39] <davidmichaelkarr> I have an ubuntu 14.04 vbox vm that I've been using for a while.  Today it seemed to freeze, and when I rebooted it, I was able to get through the graphical login, but after that it just goes black and never gives me a desktop.  I then tried rebooting the host also, but that made no difference.  How can I start diagnosing this?
[21:40] <Bray90820> tgm4883: Why the W
[21:40] <tgm4883> Bray90820: why not W
[21:40] <Seveas> Bray90820: take the Z if you don't like the W
[21:40] <Seveas> or the question mark!
[21:41] <tgm4883> 'sed s/?/W/g | sec s/W/?/g'
[21:43] <LambdaComplex> ext4 supports pretty much every character in filenames except /
[21:43] <streulma> hello I found an Ubuntu 14.04 Disks mounting bug, where can I report?
[21:43] <LambdaComplex> you can even have a newline in a filename
[21:44] <LambdaComplex> Bray90820: so, like Seveas said, that's a problem in whatever program you're using :P
[21:44] <LambdaComplex> (also just because you can _have_ a newline in a filename doesn't mean you ever should)
[21:45] <streulma> the problem is on 14.04 Disks program says to mount with x-gvfs-how and x-gvfs-name= but this commands don't exists, Disks app show this as mounting options :-)
[21:45] <Bray90820> LambdaComplex: It's a wine app so yea :P
[21:45] <streulma> on 15.10 the problem is solved
[21:45] <Seveas> LambdaComplex: I think only \0 can't be used in filenames
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Bray90820: What errors? When do you see these error messages?
[21:46] <LambdaComplex> Bray90820: And you're using it to view something on Ubuntu's ext file system?
[21:46] <Seveas> Bray90820: and you didn't think that would be useful to mention!?
[21:46] <tgm4883> lol
[21:46] <Seveas> windows (and by extension loads of windows apps, including when run with wine) disallow a lot  characters in filenames.
[21:47] <LambdaComplex> Windows + ext = probably not good, since Microsoft seems to think case-insensitive file systems are too complicated for most people
[21:47] <Bray90820> Seveas: Sorry
[21:50] <Treaver> Hyradar
[21:50] <Treaver> Dude
[21:51] <BlackDalek> Got a new HP notebook. I am having trouble getting the bluetooth to work. I got it working last night somehow, but when I booted it up this morning it was disabled again and I can't figure out how I got it working again.
[21:53] <BlackDalek> I get "bluetooth is disabled" under the bluetooth settings. I can't get it to turn back on. I have posted various terminal output here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2312613&p=13435002#post13435002
[21:54] <Jamie_1> anyone know whats up with steam on linux
[21:54] <Seveas> BlackDalek: does the laptop have a switch to disable wifi? Such switches also disable bluetooth on many laptops
[21:55] <Jamie_1> i go to install steam and when i do and i launch it, it tells me Couldn't set up Steam data - please contact technical support
[21:55] <Seveas> Jamie_1: hint: they mean steam technical support, not us :)
[21:56] <ZoderUch2> hi
[21:56] <Jamie_1> Seveas: i know... but it has been not working for awhile and steam support doesnt tell me or help me diddly squat
[21:59] <BlackDalek> Seveas, there is only the fn key with  picture of an airplane on it. That switches the wifi on and off, but it is not currently switched off as wifi is enabled and I am using that wifi connection to connect with this IRC channel currently.
[22:00] <quesker> fyi I got pxe installer working with zero helpful docs and some random guessing
[22:00] <Seveas> BlackDalek:then I don't know. Hopefully someone else does :)
[22:00] <Seveas> quesker: you mean https://www.debian-administration.org/article/708/Automating_the_Debian_installer_with_PXE_and_preseeding ? :)
[22:01] <hh929655> hola
[22:01] <Seveas> hi hh929655
[22:01] <bonzibuddy> hello folks
[22:01] <bonzibuddy> when i try to open files downloaded via chrome/firefox, it always opens them in file explorer
[22:01] <Jamie_1> quesker: i would if it were giving me any output anywhere... might be able to run it through the console and see if i can figure it out that way
[22:02] <bonzibuddy> and similarly, trying "xdg-open" on the files does the same thing
[22:02] <bonzibuddy> how do i un-fuck my xdg-open and browser file opening??
[22:02] <quesker> ah a link I sure could have used was in that debian page, the link to the netboot tarball
[22:03] <quesker> I downloaded it all by hand (wget -r is weird)
[22:03] <Jamie_1> well shit... got it
[22:04] <Jamie_1> had to remove the /.steam folder... it was trying to remove it but couldnt because it was a dir for some odd reason
[22:04] <hh929655> spanish?
[22:04] <Seveas> !es | hh929655
[22:04] <quesker> es una lengua buena, para los mojados!
[22:05] <hh929655> Gracias
[22:05] <hh929655> :)
[22:05] <hh929655> es una alegria saber que alguien habla español:D
[22:05] <Seveas> english only in here please
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !es
[22:06] <quesker> I told him it is a nice language for umm a perjorative for people of mexico
[22:06] <hh929655> ;)
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> alguien is spanish, alguem is portugese
[22:08] <quesker> and someone is russian too I bet
[22:11] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know anything about getting bluetooth enabled on a HP 15-af104au notebook? Please read my post which has useful (I hope) details from terminal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2312613&p=13435002#post13435002
[22:12] <VelusUniverseSys> hello is any able to help me set up a mail system with virtual users?
[22:12] <daftykins> VelusUniverseSys: not relevant here, try #ubuntu-server or find the channel of the mail server you want to use
[22:13] <LambdaComplex> daftykins: how is that not relevant?
[22:13] <LambdaComplex> i mean, assuming he's on ubuntu :p
[22:13] <quesker> if 14.04 doesn't recognize my usb3-ethernet adapter then no linux probably supports it right?
[22:14] <daftykins> LambdaComplex: desktop channel here, don't fight it - just the way things are.
[22:14] <LambdaComplex> til i can't use my desktop computer as a mail server
[22:14] <daftykins> BlackDalek: have you seen https://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr and https://askubuntu.com/questions/533043/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-dell-inspiron-15-3521 ? i know you're not using 14.04 but they may be helpful nevertheless
[22:15] <quesker> looks like a realtek chip
[22:16] <daftykins> quesker: what kernel are you on?
[22:16] <daftykins> or which, i should say
[22:16] <quesker> 3.13.0
[22:16] <shocker> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[22:17] <daftykins> quesker: so that's pretty old, you could test a live session of a newer release
[22:17] <daftykins> shocker: why are you pasting that here?
[22:17] <quesker> should I just take an update?  I don't want to install again, pxe install takes forever
[22:18] <quesker> he missed a / shoot him!
[22:18] <daftykins> quesker: well it doesn't look like a very safe command to be throwing around - no need to sensationalise it
[22:18] <BlackDalek> daftykins, no. I had not seen that. Looks like something new to try.
[22:18] <daftykins> quesker: oh are you the one that didn't have a flash drive earlier?
[22:19] <quesker> how can I take updates via command line?  I did a minimal install
[22:19] <quesker> yes
[22:19] <daftykins> well without a working network connection, you're screwed.
[22:19] <quesker> well I have regular ethernet too
[22:19] <ikonia> the same way you did the minimal insall with apt-get
[22:19] <ikonia> why do a minimal install ?
[22:20] <quesker> I just wanted to do a quick check to see if this cheapo adapter works on linux
[22:20] <ikonia> so a full install would have been a quicker check
[22:20] <quesker> how is that?  net install would take a while
[22:20] <daftykins> quesker: enabling the wily HWE would be the easiest, so that you get a 3.19 kernel to test - but even that's quite old now too
[22:21] <daftykins> i'm afraid i don't extend any patience to those who won't just save an install for a sensible time when they have a flash drive to hand, so i'll have to leave you to someone else who fancies the challenge.
[22:23] <quesker> don't worry I've been disappointed with ubuntu before.  fool me twice shame on me
[22:24] <quesker> for some reason I thought it would have latest drivers since it is supposedly a desktop os
[22:24] <ikonia> you've not done your home work on how linux works
[22:24] <quesker> heh
[22:24] <ikonia> you've done a minimal install - which only includes what you tell it to
[22:25] <quesker> so I need the gui and some games before I get net/usb drivers?  interesting
[22:25] <ikonia> no
[22:25] <daftykins> i think you're just trolling now, but your comments are indeed just highlighting your own inexperience... you're installing an old release and expecting an exotic piece of hardware to work out of the box
[22:25] <ikonia> thats not what I said at all
[22:25] <quesker> an old release?  go to your own site
[22:25] <quesker> it says that version is the suggested download
[22:25] <daftykins> we're volunteers, we're not staff - it's not our site.
[22:26] <daftykins> also, if you say you have the 3.13 kernel then that means you netinst'd the wrong ISO.
[22:26] <quesker> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/?_ga=1.187304171.256937426.1454704248
[22:27] <quesker> from    http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[22:27] <quesker> 14.04 suggested at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:27] <daftykins> 14.04.3 is current.
[22:27] <tgm4883> quesker: uh, if you read that page. It clearly says what to download for an updated kernel
[22:27] <ikonia> because it's the current LTS release
[22:29] <quesker> ok if you really want to help please tell me how to find the netboot tarball from that page   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/?_ga=1.176358246.256937426.1454704248
[22:29] <C_minus_> I just made a dd copy backup of my entire hard drive. Or at least I thought I did. When I plug it in, it only appears with the Windows partiton (I have both win7 and ubuntu). And it says the size of the external hard drive is only 209GB (the size of my win7 partition)
[22:29] <ikonia> you don't use a tarball
[22:29] <ikonia> quesker: you'll find it a more valid test if you just download and install a desktop setup
[22:29] <timolander> :-)
[22:29] <daftykins> again, i think assistance is just enabling your self-imposed restriction of not obtaining a flash drive and doing things properly.
[22:29] <quesker> no dvd
[22:30] <ikonia> use a usb
[22:30] <C_minus_> dd definitely copied the entire 500GB hard drive (it took all day)
[22:30] <timolander> :-?
[22:30] <quesker> and usb install looks like a crapshoot
[22:30] <timolander> ??
[22:30] <quesker> already tried one
[22:30] <timolander> ?
[22:30] <quesker> the machine doesn't recognize it but it will recognize the next one right?
[22:30] <daftykins> C_minus_: i would bet you screwed up, and used /dev/sdx1 instead of /dev/sdx as input
[22:30] <Jordan_U> C_minus_: What is "it"? Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[22:30] <tgm4883> quesker: well you should be using the ISO, however if you go down to "Select an architecture to install 14.04 with wily's 4.2 HWE kernel (supported until August 2016)" then click the link for your architecture (I'm assuming amd64) the tarball is right on the freaking page
[22:31] <quesker> ok I am blind I see it now thanks
[22:31] <quesker> heh
[22:31] <C_minus_> daftykins no i used dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[22:31] <daftykins> C_minus_: checking the output of "sudo parted -l" would double check what happened
[22:31] <daftykins> but why are you cloning an entire disk?
[22:32] <C_minus_> Jordan_U "it" would be nautilus
[22:32] <C_minus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14897735/
[22:33] <daftykins> looks like it's all there, to me.
[22:33] <C_minus_> daftykins cloning the entire disk so as to have a simple 1-line backup procedure.
[22:34] <daftykins> simple, but wildly wasteful
[22:34] <C_minus_> daftykins yeah i guess it is all listed there in the "my passport" (the brand of external hdd i have). i was just thrown off because only the win7 section displayed itself in nautilus
[22:34] <daftykins> yes a WD drive
[22:34] <C_minus_> i don't care about waste, i need fast easy simple
[22:34] <Jordan_U> C_minus_: That's probably a reasult of two fileystems having the same UUID. When supposedly Univerally Unique IDentifiers aren't Universally Unique you tend to get problems. You can either change the UUID of your filesystems or just ensure that you never have two copies of the same FS (with the same UUID) in the same machine at the same time.
[22:35] <C_minus_> i was going to use clonezilla but it gave me some stupid error. Jordan_U how did i set that? was it when I chose user account names at os install?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> C_minus_: The UUID is a random number generated when the FS is created.
[22:36] <C_minus_> yeah well ok thanks fellas
[22:36] <C_minus_> later
[22:36] <daftykins> ah the stuff users do.
[22:37] <MeXTuX> I plugged my USB flash drive into a Windows 7 machine and the "Error Checking" window popped up. I clicked on "Repair drive" option to fix it. Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu using the command line. This is what I see when I type "sudo fdisk -l": W95 FAT32 (LBA) Tnx in advance
[22:39] <ZoderUch2> hi
[22:39] <daftykins> hello
[22:40] <ZoderUch2> hay
[22:40] <daftykins> MeXTuX: err, i'm not sure if fsck works on FAT... it might do, but really it's best handled by Windows i think - depends if you care what's on there
[22:41] <Jordan_U> MeXTuX: sudo fsck.fat /dev/sdXY
[22:41] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Fixing ntfs filesystems should definitely be left to Windows, but fsck.fat is perfectly good at its job.
[22:42] <daftykins> fair enough
[22:42] <daftykins> i knew that much for sure :)
[22:42] <daftykins> how about exFAT? i'd imagine that one is still somewhat proprietary to Microsoft
[22:43] <xxx> s.a iyi akşamlar
[22:45] <OerHeks> !tr | xxx i wouldn say that in turkish channel, if i were you
[22:47] <Cihan> geyik? :)
[22:47] <Cihan> i don't think so OerHeks
[22:48] <daftykins> Cihan: if you're saying it's a bad translation someone made, feel free to suggest a correction to #ubuntu-ops
[22:48] <Cihan> not a bad
[22:48] <snp13r> :D
[22:48] <Cihan> it's ok :)
[22:49] <Cihan> daftykins: he just invited Turkish people in the chatroom, that's all :)
[22:49] <gilje> My Xubuntu install on my SSD is 6 gigs, and I have 16 gb ram. Is there any way I can boot Xubuntu to ramdisk to make it faster?
[22:49] <Cihan> 16GB ram <3
[22:49] <gilje> Cheap these days. :P
[22:50] <snp13r> 16 GB normally
[22:50] <ikonia> gilje: it really doens't work like that
[22:50] <snp13r> but i used to 20 gb
[22:50] <daftykins> i think such an action would be frivolous
[22:50] <k1l_> gilje: ubuntu uses the ram automatically
[22:50] <Cihan> I'm gonna build 64GB, when intel released 10nm cpu :)
[22:50] <Cihan> after skylake and cannonlake
[22:50] <snp13r> i use the ubuntu with win7
[22:51] <Cihan> ESXi :)
[22:51] <Cihan> vm <3
[22:52] <gilje> My system takes 15 secs to boot. But systemd-analyze gives 4 secs for kernel + userspace. Is there any way to improve boot speeds?
[22:52] <daftykins> bootchart gives clues does it not?
[22:52] <gilje> sorry, haven't checked that yet
[22:53] <snp13r> you should research the new version of bios system
[22:53] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[22:53] <OerHeks> from http://askubuntu.com/questions/710127/how-can-i-set-up-bootchart-in-ubuntu-15-10
[22:54] <daftykins> funky! good work OerHeks :D that resulting image would be useful
[22:54] <gilje> yep. that gives the same result. 3.8 secs (2.4+1.4)
[22:55] <k1l_> gilje: you can look at the image and see what exactly is taking "that long"
[22:55] <gilje> I was more concerned about the stuff that happens before kernel
[22:55] <gilje> how to speed up grub
[22:56] <dbilovd> Hi all, have a little problem with running my js scope.
[22:56] <quesker> so ikonia in addition to the base install which of these packages should I also install to see if a driver for my usb3 ethernet exists?  perhaps openssh server or 2d/3d creation and editing suite
[22:56] <dbilovd> This is the problem I have >> This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".
[22:57] <Jordan_U> gilje: Do you have reason to believe that grub is taking a long time, as opposed to POST taking a long time?
[22:57] <dbilovd> Please can anyone help out?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> dbilovd: What application are you trying to start?
[22:58] <gilje> yeah, might be that. trouble is I can't see the splash screen. Is it possible bios settings will speed up boot? Thanks.
[22:58] <dbilovd> Jordan_U: I'm going through one of the scopes tutorial, using qt
[22:58] <OerHeks> gilje, if you don't even see splash, your system is awfully fast
[22:58] <OerHeks> :-D
[22:59] <gilje> Nah, my monitor takes ages (about 5 secs) to wake from sleep
[22:59] <dbilovd> So I just hit run in the Ubuntu SDK IDE and the problem comes up.
[22:59] <dbilovd> It worked y'day
[23:00] <Jordan_U> gilje: Is this a UEFI based system?
[23:00] <gilje> I think so. Just formatted win8 ssd
[23:02] <snp13r> how  hack to website???
[23:02] <snp13r> can you help me??
[23:02] <daftykins> snp13r: not on topic here, wrong network.
[23:03] <OerHeks> snp13r, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[23:03] <snp13r> ok im sorry
[23:03] <gilje> Anyways, thanks for help. gtg now
[23:03] <Jordan_U> gilje: Then grub is waiting 3 seconds at boot.
[23:04] <quesker> so even with the 4.2 kernel it still doesn't see the usb3 ethernet.  thanks for the help getting pxe installs going
[23:04] <quesker> much easier than dealing with usb sticks
[23:04] <Jordan_U> quesker: Still worth trying Ubuntu 15.10.
[23:05] <OerHeks> snp13r, go look for backbox/kali channels for pentesting, don't say hacking
[23:05] <quesker> you think
[23:05] <Jordan_U> quesker: Actually, no. Just realized that 15.10 is on a 4.2 kernel as well.
[23:05] <snp13r> ok thanks
[23:05] <quesker> yeah.  no big I can order one that actually works
[23:05] <tgm4883> quesker: you could test 16.04 though
[23:06] <daftykins> quesker: nice try ;)
[23:06] <ali_> I've installed laptop-mode which enables me to adjust the default screen brightness when my laptop is running on battery. This works fine when I'm switching between battery and power-supply. The only problem I get with the laptop-mode is that the screen brightness is not been adjusted to the default configured value when Im booting the laptop with battery as it's power source.
[23:08] <ali_> But after my system is booted, witching between battery and power-supply will adjust the screen brightness accordingly to the configuration that I've done
[23:08] <daftykins> that's pretty common, set it with a boot script maybe
[23:10] <ali_> daftykins: I don't get it, I see that laptop-mode is u and running after booting the system
[23:10] <daftykins> too late probably.
[23:12] <ali_> yeahh
[23:21] <C2CNL> hey people
[23:21] <C2CNL> i'm in a kind of bend when it comes to using my SSD and HDD optimally
[23:21] <C2CNL> how should i partition my system?
[23:21] <ikonia> up to you
[23:22] <C2CNL> well, i'd want /home on my HDD
[23:22] <ikonia> do it then
[23:22] <minas114> Can I upgrade my ubuntu 15.04 to 16.04? (it's on a VM)
[23:22] <k1l_> C2CNL: put / and home onto the ssd and all data to the hdd
[23:22] <ikonia> minas114: yes
[23:22] <C2CNL> but i want fast boots, fast loading of applications, but store all data on the hdd
[23:22] <minas114> ikonia, How?
[23:22] <k1l_> minas114: first to 15.10, then to 16.04 (when its released in april)
[23:22] <ikonia> C2CNL: hoe doesn't store the applications
[23:22] <ikonia> minas114: what for the release
[23:22] <C2CNL> so i'm wondering how i would partition it in the installer, e.g. what to do?
[23:22] <ikonia> minas114: then follow the upgrade instructions
[23:23] <ali_> please tell me if anyone of you guys managed to get the configuration you've made in laptop-mode for screen brightness to kick in when booting your system
[23:23] <minas114> k1l_, sorry, It's 15.10 that I have
[23:23] <ikonia> ali_: the what ?
[23:23] <C2CNL> i think /etc should be on the hdd, /usr on the ssd?
[23:23] <ikonia> C2CNL: /etc can't be a partition
[23:23] <ikonia> C2CNL: you don't neeed /usr as a seperate partition
[23:23] <k1l_> minas114: then use the -d for developer. be aware 16.04 is still in development. it will break and you need to help yourself
[23:24] <C2CNL> ikonia: so, what should i do then?
[23:24] <ikonia> C2CNL: just put / on the ssd and /home on the hard disk if you're low on space on the ssd
[23:24] <minas114> k1l_, sudo apt-get upgrade -d ??
[23:24] <k1l_> minas114: no
[23:24] <ikonia> C2CNL: you've got to lay it out how you feel best, use your space
[23:24] <ikonia> minas114: what for the release
[23:24] <k1l_> minas114: ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to update the releases
[23:24] <C2CNL> ikonia: i want it optimized for speed, but store everything that's space-hungry on the hdd
[23:24] <ikonia> C2CNL: dp that then
[23:24] <minas114> ikonia, I'm sorry, I don't understand you...
[23:24] <C2CNL> not only /home holds a lot of data
[23:24] <ikonia> minas114: what for 16.04 to be released
[23:25] <ikonia> C2CNL: where else holds a lot of data
[23:25] <minas114> k1l_, Ah, ok. Do you know the command?
[23:25] <C2CNL> i don't know, that's why i'm here.
[23:25] <ikonia> C2CNL: how big is your SSD
[23:25] <C2CNL> i want as least as possible on the ssd
[23:25] <C2CNL> 120GB
[23:25] <C2CNL> HDD is 500GB
[23:25] <k1l_> minas114: ubuntu uses do-release-upgrade on CLI to upgrade. but 16.04 is not ready. it will break. and then you will need to fix the issues yourself. are you aware of that?
[23:25] <ikonia> C2CNL: how big is your personal data ?
[23:25] <suryo> hello
[23:25] <suryo> i want to asking
[23:25] <C2CNL> not sure yet, i'm starting fresh
[23:26] <ikonia> C2CNL: ok, so make / on the SSD and /home on the SSD, if your personal data gets too big move /home to the HD
[23:26] <suryo> how to install software in ubuntu?
[23:26] <ikonia> suryo: https://help.ubuntu.com
[23:26] <daftykins> !manual | suryo
[23:27] <poldo79> list
[23:27] <minas114> k1l_, Yes. It's only for testing on a VM. Okay I tried it but "no new release found". (By the way I have enabled pre-released updates in "software and updates" application, but I geuss that is for 15.10)
[23:27] <suryo> thanks
[23:27] <suryo> i will read it
[23:27] <ali_> ikonia: the configuration that Ive made for screen brightness values only works when Im switching between battery/power-supply when my system is up and running. The configuration is not read when Im booting my system with the battery as it power source...
[23:27] <k1l_> minas114: what is "lsb_release -d" ?
[23:27] <suryo> ohhh noooo newbie cant use anything
[23:27] <suryo> :(
[23:28] <k1l_> suryo: use the software center
[23:28] <ikonia> ali_: you'd need to change the boot order to make sure apm is earlier in the boot chain
[23:28] <C2CNL> ikonia: so, installing applications won't fill up the ssd?
[23:28] <minas114> k1l_, Ubuntu 15.10
[23:28] <ikonia> ali_: but to be honest - why bother
[23:28] <ikonia> C2CNL: no
[23:28] <suryo> software center install or from web?
[23:28] <ikonia> C2CNL: you'd have to try very hard to fill up a 120GB disk with ubuntu applications
[23:28] <k1l_> minas114: so that should work
[23:28] <LambdaComplex> steam games
[23:29] <C2CNL> Steam games will be installed where?
[23:29] <daftykins> /home/username/.steam/ probably
[23:29] <daftykins> read their help :)
[23:30] <minas114> k1l_, it should, but it doesn't :) Let me see what I can find. Thanks for the help.
[23:30] <LambdaComplex> i think it's ~/.local/share/Steam
[23:30] <k1l_> !paste | minas114 put all the command and output there
[23:30] <C2CNL> but only /home on the hdd is enough to be as space conservative as possible?
[23:31] <C2CNL> i also have major issues with my internal discrete graphics card, just can't get it to work seamlessly
[23:31] <ali_> ikonia: it's a nice configuration to save battery life, and you don't need to worry about forgetting it...
[23:32] <C2CNL> always having to optirun stuff
[23:32] <minas114> k1l_, ohhh, I did "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" and now it is fetching new packages. I didn;t realize you told me to use -d with that command!
[23:32] <OerHeks> C2CNL, you can move steam folders to an other hdd within steam, http://askubuntu.com/a/226885
[23:32] <daftykins> C2CNL: welcome to hybrid graphics under Linux
[23:32] <C2CNL> coolbeans, just like steam on windows
[23:33] <k1l_> minas114: -d is for developer. that is to make sure no beginners update to developer releases.
[23:33] <minas114> k1l_, I understand.
[23:33] <C2CNL> daftykins: it's rather annoying, especially when trying to get the Blizzard.net launcher to work under linux
[23:33] <minas114> k1l_, Thanks :)
[23:33] <C2CNL> fucked it up, now have to reinstall, gonna curb windows in the process
[23:33] <daftykins> C2CNL: yeah if you want to game i think Linux is a mistake on such a laptop. Easy on the language by the way...
[23:33] <C2CNL> daftykins: it's a Asus N750JK
[23:34] <daftykins> that doesn't really change much
[23:34] <C2CNL> i7-4710HQ and GTX 850M
[23:35] <minas114> suryo, it's preffered from software center because it gets updated automatically that way. However, it might be or two versions behind... You must check this, if possible.
[23:35] <C2CNL> just wanna be able to play WoW on linux, it should work
[23:35] <C2CNL> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=32314
[23:35] <OerHeks> for WoW, check out playonlinux
[23:36] <C2CNL> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855&iTestingId=92437
[23:36] <C2CNL> that should work aswell, tried debugging, some d3d shit
[23:36] <C2CNL> stuff*
[23:37] <C2CNL> sorry
[23:37] <C2CNL> but it crashes almost immediately
[23:37] <C2CNL> upon that i tried updating intel drivers, this completely killed X and it just wouldn't budge
[23:37] <C2CNL> so i've decided i'd reinstall
[23:38] <C2CNL> and just start fresh, with ubuntu on the SSD, and all data on the HDD
[23:38] <daftykins> to be honest buying a gaming laptop then installing Linux is very backwards imo
[23:38] <C2CNL> it's not a gaming laptop, multimedia laptop that just packs a punch
[23:39] <daftykins> that's splitting hairs
[23:39] <C2CNL> but i enjoy linux more than windows to be honest
[23:39] <C2CNL> and wanting to play WoW is just something i wouldn't ordinarily do on the laptop
[23:39] <C2CNL> i'm more home in things as Android Studio and PHPStorm
[23:42] <daftykins> sounds like a dualboot would make more sense, but up to you anyway
[23:43] <C2CNL> last time i tried that, windows took my ssd completely
[23:44] <n0t> Yeah, I second dual-booting. Good way to have a work environment and a gaming environment
[23:46] <daftykins> you need to pay some attention to the installer and not rush through it.
[23:47] <C2CNL> so, / => ssd, /home => hdd, anything else i can do while partitioning?
[23:47] <daftykins> how big is the storage in that thing?
[23:47] <C2CNL> daftykins: 449GB free
[23:47] <C2CNL> more than enough space
[23:47] <daftykins> so 512GB SSD and there's a mechanical too, or?
[23:47] <C2CNL> it starts the launcher, and then i get a blizzard crash error
[23:47] <C2CNL> oh, 120GB SSD, 500GB HDD
[23:48] <C2CNL> i'm used to windows filling it up real fast
[23:48] <daftykins> hmm not really a lot of either to do anything well
[23:48] <daftykins> yeah i don't think i would bother without an upgrade
[23:49] <C2CNL> upgrade as in, bigger SSD, bigger HDD
[23:49] <daftykins> any combination
[23:49] <C2CNL> lol yeah, guess so
[23:49] <k1l_> C2CNL: 512GB ssd? and you worry about ubuntu filling that?
[23:49] <C2CNL> 120
[23:49] <k1l_> even 120 is enough.
[23:50] <k1l_> the bare system is something <10GB. with nearly all programs installed.
[23:50] <C2CNL> but it's about partitioning, and to put what on which partition
[23:50] <k1l_> that makes 110GB for stuff in your /home.
[23:50] <daftykins> k1l_: we're talking about a dualboot with Windows as it happens
[23:50] <C2CNL> hoping i could split it optimized over the two
[23:50] <C2CNL> i'm not too keen on DB'ing windows tbh
[23:51] <daftykins> i mean even 100GB for Windows, then 20GB odd for ubuntu... games partition on the 500GB for Windows, maybe a /home for ubuntu... something like that
[23:51] <C2CNL> i'd rather dig in and get it to work on linux
[23:51] <daftykins> i don't think it's ideal still.
[23:51] <k1l_> C2CNL: put / and /home on your ssd. then put your data onto that big hdd and mount that big hdd to your ubuntu system.
[23:52] <C2CNL> k1l_: might, 100GB for windows?
[23:53] <C2CNL> i hate this so much right now, lol, means i have to reinstall the desktop aswell
[23:53] <daftykins> i dunno if k1l_ knows we were talking about dualbooting
[23:53] <daftykins> err what? why touch the desktop? that's an insane claim
[23:53] <eelstrebor> from zdnet: Here comes the first Ubuntu Linux tablet - http://www.zdnet.com/article/here-comes-the-first-ubuntu-linux-tablet/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
[23:53] <daftykins> eelstrebor: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[23:54] <k1l_> well, windows is very space hungry and its a pain when it filled up.
[23:54] <eelstrebor> this is ubuntu isn't it?
[23:54] <C2CNL> daftykins: two pc's, both need to run WoW, one is this laptop, the other is a desktop running only ubuntu
[23:54] <daftykins> eelstrebor: support only, not general chat.
[23:54] <C2CNL> k1l_: exactly
[23:54] <k1l_> eelstrebor: this channel is support only. please read the guidelines
[23:55] <C2CNL> it's even in the topic =P "#ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Suppot Channel"
[23:55] <eelstrebor> i was gonna ask a question about it but if you're gonna be jerks then i'll see you in about a year - bye!
[23:55] <C2CNL> woah, sorry for my humor o_O
[23:56] <gevs> hey there, having problems with sound (USB loudspeakers) + bluetooth mouse (HP).. when i have nothing running producing audio output, i hear this "bzzzzz" sound, which is getting louder whenever i scroll (when i click a mouse button it make the sound louder too) ; so i'm thinking there is some kind of frequence problem between the two... but could there be a driver update or so using ubuntu that fixes this ?
[23:56] <C2CNL> gevs: lol, had that issue aswell a long time ago
[23:56] <gevs> damn disturbing ..
[23:56] <gevs> been two months now
[23:56] <C2CNL> still don't know what the umpf it was
[23:56] <gevs> and today i am getting rid of it :P
[23:57] <C_minus> I followed the fix in this site (for mismatched mbr gpt) and now my laptop doesn't boot. no grub. just blinking cursor on black screen.
[23:57] <C_minus> https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18545787
[23:57] <daftykins> yeah following obscure forums advice isn't always too great
[23:57] <C_minus> so i assume i've gotta use my new fresh new backup!
[23:57] <Jordan_U> C_minus: You said that you had that error on a USB drive. Did you repair your USB drive or your internal drive?
[23:58] <OerHeks> gdisk is oke, choose 2: gpt
[23:58] <C_minus> no i didn't have that error on a usb drive. this is my laptop's hard drive
[23:58] <Jordan_U> C_minus: (Though I now realize that I may be confusing you with someone else).
[23:59] <C_minus> so i assume my fix is now to take my external hard drive backup and use dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda