bluesabregood evening all00:48
* bluesabre sobs uncontrollably in the corner00:58
knomenow what is it this time?00:59
bluesabreyou being a bully :P00:59
flocculantbluesabre: bug 153320007:21
ubottubug 1533200 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "Black background at first login" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153320007:21
flocculantnot sure what's causing that - but I guess we don't want to have that for 3 years ... 07:22
flocculantor rather than not sure - can't remember what ochosi said about it ... 07:22
flocculantor even if I misremember that :(07:24
Unit193flocculant: Dang, bummer you got stuck with the CC meeting. :/09:42
Unit193Go well?09:42
dholbachUnit193: I don't think it was that much of an ordeal...09:43
dholbachflocculant did a great job explaining what's currently happening in the xubuntu world and which issues are currently most pressing.09:45
Unit193dholbach: Hah, nothing personal.  Just a bummer it was just him and none of us were there either.09:49
dholbachah ok :-)09:51
Unit193Though you guys might look just as scary in the morning as knome. ;)09:51
bluesabreflocculant: I'll see if I can get a good look at that this weekend12:00
bluesabreflocculant: can you kick the tires on https://launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa catfish-daily? I'll probably go ahead and push out 1.4.0 this weekend if things seem to check out12:02
bluesabreand work on the greeter, see what I can fix12:02
bluesabreit's one of the worst kinds of bugs, everything is working until it stops12:02
flocculantUnit193: hah - no-one scares me :p12:56
flocculantbluesabre: anything in particular this catfish fixes? or just have at it12:57
flocculantand yes I understand that with the bug ... 12:58
flocculantbluesabre: I'll have a see at catfish when I'm really home later - I'm away from early tomorrow till Monday/Tuesday after that12:59
flocculantUnit193: and yea - was ok - other than Daniel and Michael :p13:00
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ubottuMeeting in ten minutes: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19314:51
* dkessel will be on the road during the meeting14:56
meetingologyMeeting started Fri Feb  5 15:00:01 2016 UTC.  The chair is slickymasterWork. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:00
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slickymasterWorkWelcome all to the Xubuntu community meeting.  The agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings15:00
slickymasterWorkSo, who's here for the meeting?15:00
* micahg is here15:01
slickymasterWorkwelcome micahg :)15:01
slickymasterWorkanyone else?15:01
jfaustjfaust is here.  first meeting for me15:01
slickymasterWorkwelcome jfaust :)15:02
slickymasterWorkunfortunately it seems that we won't have quorum to proceed with the meeting15:04
slickymasterWorkthere's just me and micahg here, from team15:04
slickymasterWorkunless any other members show up15:04
jfaustI'm curious about the process.  Planned to just observe (and contribute if I could).  Happy to hang out for awhile and wait for others.15:05
slickymasterWorkI'll give it another 10 minutes to see if anyone shows up15:06
slickymasterWorkif not I'll reschedule it15:07
slickymasterWorkbut as long as you're here now jfaust, did you already have a read at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/15:08
slickymasterWorkit's a good starting point for you15:09
jfaustYes, I have read (most of) the contributor information.  Trying to test 16.04 now15:10
jfaustunfortunately I missed the recent meeting about testing. still not 100% how best to focus my efforts...15:13
slickymasterWorkjfaust, here is the backlog of that meeting -> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/31/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t16:0015:14
jfaustoh, that's great!  Will definitely check it out.  Thanks!15:15
slickymasterWorksure jfaust, no problem15:15
slickymasterWork#info due to the lack of quorum the meeting is postponed and slickymaster will reschedule it15:16
slickymasterWork#action slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting15:17
meetingologyACTION: slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting15:17
meetingologyMeeting ended Fri Feb  5 15:18:00 2016 UTC.  15:18
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-02-05-15.00.moin.txt15:18
slickymasterWorkthanks micahg and jfaust for showing up15:18
jfaustslickymaster, thanks for your help!  Will try to attend the next meeting.15:19
slickymasterWorkare yo subscribed to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, jfaust?15:20
slickymasterWorkif not, I advise to subscribe it15:20
slickymasterWork+ you15:20
jfaustYes, I am subscribed to the mailing list.  Hope to transition from a lurker to a contributor :)15:21
slickymasterWorkyou're more than welcome jfaust 15:27
slickymasterWorkMinutes are up15:34
flocculantjfaust: basically - the question I have is - What position are you in to test? hardware? virtual? the dev version? the released stable version only? 16:57
jfausthi flocculant.  I have a daily build (~1 week old) running in a virtual machine.  Just trying sotware and settings that I typically use.  I have a lot of thunar crashes in 15.10. haven't tried reproducing them in 16.0417:00
flocculantjfaust: ok 17:02
jfaustflocculant: build is actually 3 weeks old.17:02
flocculantlet me gather my thoughts while the kettle boils 17:02
flocculantjfaust: ok so - in vm you could check the latest thunar and try reproducing - add this ppa17:07
flocculantmake sure you're updated first though17:07
slickymasterWorkhey flocculant 17:07
flocculantthen update/upgrade should drag the new thunar and power manager in17:07
flocculantpower manager changes won't be apparent in vm17:08
flocculantxenial is pretty stable atm - unless you're mad enough to use the proposed repos17:08
flocculantperhaps consider a dual boot17:08
flocculantI do that - data is in other partitions17:09
flocculanttesting of the ppa thunar is important currently17:09
flocculanthi slickymasterWork :)17:09
flocculantjfaust: did you see http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ ? 17:09
flocculantthere are 3 qa sections there17:10
slickymasterWorkflocculant, did you read the backlog yet?17:10
flocculantknew there was meeting - knew I'd be driving :)17:10
slickymasterWorkI'll reschedule it during the weekend17:11
slickymasterWorkyou won't be around, I know ;)17:11
jfaustflocculant: upgrading now, will take a while :) i have read the contributor info., but still a little unsure about where to start.  will check it out again17:12
flocculantslickymasterWork: not back till monday/tuesday but no work next week at all17:13
flocculantjfaust: right 17:13
flocculantjfaust: tbh if you can the best place to start is run a dual boot. Then use the xenial one all the time - then fall back if something breaks17:13
slickymasterWorkyou lucky you, flocculant 17:13
flocculantjfaust: I've had little to write home about since cycle start tbh17:14
jfaustflocculant: I will focus on thunar.  The crashes in 15.10 are not reproducible for me.  Mostly when renaming files or moving into subfolders.17:14
jfaustI will consider a dual boot.  definitely see the benefit of running 16 as primary17:14
flocculantjfaust: finally - being around on IRC and seeing what's current - and checking those things is useful to us hugely17:15
flocculantjfaust: ok - that'd be really helpful indeed - I'm sure there are people who do so - but we rarely get any feedback 17:15
jfaustflocculant:  sounds good.  still new to IRC.  forgive me lapses in etiquette :)17:16
flocculantoh and also - nothing to stop you running through the priority and mandatory testcases on http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases17:16
flocculantjfaust: :) basically enough - assuming you want people to treat you well - treat them the same and you'll be fine :D17:17
flocculantjfaust: aah cool - I see you on the testers team, when you say you're subscribed to mailing list - do you mean the dev one? that'd be the one to be using17:18
jfaustflocculant: sounds great!  thanks for pointing out the testcases.  i think that's what i've been looking for.17:18
flocculantthey are a good way to break yourself into testing 17:19
jfaustflocullant: i am on the dev mailing list also17:19
flocculantbut what we call exploratory testing is much better - and just a fancy name for 'installing and using the dev release on hardware normally' :)17:20
flocculantjfaust: k - the testers/dev list is where 99% of the qa focus is17:20
flocculantand finally finally - if you do have questions - anyone should be able to help you somehow - even if pointing you to who to ask17:21
flocculanthttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa/+members#active should be the best bets17:22
flocculanttheir IRC names are on their LP pages - mine is the same there as here :)17:22
flocculantsigh 17:23
flocculantso really I shouldn't say finally till the night arrives ...17:23
jfaustflocculant: ok, my plan will be to knock out the test cases first and then do more exploration.  thank you so much for all the help! I need to unplug now.  bye17:23
flocculantjfaust: thanks for the interest :)17:24
ochosievening all21:32
flocculanthi ochosi if you're still with us :)22:04
ochosihey flocculant 22:21
ochosislickymaster: sorry i couldn't make it for the meeting22:22
flocculanthey ochosi :)22:22
slickymasterno problem22:22
ochosiflocculant: i saw some of the backlog, havent had time yet for all of it22:22
slickymasterno one did :P22:22
ochosiso in case you wanna give me a quick summary, that wouldn't make me angry ;)22:22
slickymasterI'll reschedule for next week, ochosi 22:23
ochosislickymaster: thanks!22:23
flocculantochosi: might want to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/02/04/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:4122:23
flocculantochosi: not much in backlog here afaik22:24
flocculantI did CC meeting - brought up usc/g-s, fonts and core22:24
flocculantother than that - just said we were all cool as cucumbers (as always) and knew where the CC was22:25
* slickymaster likes cucumber22:25
slickymasterin salads22:25
* flocculant realises that ochosi would know that if he goes to the log first :p22:27
flocculantochosi: not sure if you'll see this in backlog - I'm away till Monday/Tuesday22:29
ochosiread the backlog now22:30
ochosithanks for bringing up our issues22:31
ochosigood to know we can keep using droid22:31
ochosithe alternatives are okayish, but not exactly thrilling22:31
flocculantyea for sure22:31
flocculantI'm not in the least arty but I wasn't thrilled22:32
ochosiand about the -core issue, i'm not sure i got the gist of that22:32
ochosihey knome 22:33
knomehey ochosi 22:33
flocculantochosi: I was mostly interested from qa pov there tbh - if it's too late - it can be finished, but I'll not be signing it off untested22:34
bluesabreevening all23:50
slickymasterhey bluesabre 23:52
bluesabrehey slickymaster 23:54

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