[00:48] <bluesabre> good evening all
[00:49] <knome> hell
[00:49] <knome> o
[00:49] <knome> :|
[00:58] <bluesabre> :(
[00:58]  * bluesabre sobs uncontrollably in the corner
[00:59] <knome> again?
[00:59] <bluesabre> :'(
[00:59] <knome> now what is it this time?
[00:59] <bluesabre> you being a bully :P
[01:00] <knome> right?
[01:00] <bluesabre> :D
[07:21] <flocculant> bluesabre: bug 1533200
[07:22] <flocculant> not sure what's causing that - but I guess we don't want to have that for 3 years ... 
[07:22] <flocculant> or rather than not sure - can't remember what ochosi said about it ... 
[07:24] <flocculant> or even if I misremember that :(
[09:42] <Unit193> flocculant: Dang, bummer you got stuck with the CC meeting. :/
[09:42] <Unit193> Go well?
[09:43] <dholbach> Unit193: I don't think it was that much of an ordeal...
[09:45] <dholbach> flocculant did a great job explaining what's currently happening in the xubuntu world and which issues are currently most pressing.
[09:49] <Unit193> dholbach: Hah, nothing personal.  Just a bummer it was just him and none of us were there either.
[09:49] <Unit193> Howdy.
[09:51] <dholbach> ah ok :-)
[09:51] <Unit193> Though you guys might look just as scary in the morning as knome. ;)
[12:00] <bluesabre> flocculant: I'll see if I can get a good look at that this weekend
[12:02] <bluesabre> flocculant: can you kick the tires on https://launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa catfish-daily? I'll probably go ahead and push out 1.4.0 this weekend if things seem to check out
[12:02] <bluesabre> and work on the greeter, see what I can fix
[12:02] <bluesabre> it's one of the worst kinds of bugs, everything is working until it stops
[12:02] <bluesabre> :D
[12:56] <flocculant> Unit193: hah - no-one scares me :p
[12:57] <flocculant> bluesabre: anything in particular this catfish fixes? or just have at it
[12:58] <flocculant> and yes I understand that with the bug ... 
[12:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: I'll have a see at catfish when I'm really home later - I'm away from early tomorrow till Monday/Tuesday after that
[13:00] <flocculant> Unit193: and yea - was ok - other than Daniel and Michael :p
[14:51] <slickymasterWork> !team | Meeting in ten minutes
[14:56]  * dkessel will be on the road during the meeting
[15:00] <slickymasterWork> #startmeeting
[15:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Feb  5 15:00:01 2016 UTC.  The chair is slickymasterWork. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:00] <slickymasterWork> Welcome all to the Xubuntu community meeting.  The agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[15:00] <slickymasterWork> So, who's here for the meeting?
[15:01]  * micahg is here
[15:01] <slickymasterWork> welcome micahg :)
[15:01] <slickymasterWork> anyone else?
[15:01] <jfaust> jfaust is here.  first meeting for me
[15:02] <slickymasterWork> welcome jfaust :)
[15:02] <jfaust> thanks!
[15:04] <slickymasterWork> unfortunately it seems that we won't have quorum to proceed with the meeting
[15:04] <slickymasterWork> there's just me and micahg here, from team
[15:04] <slickymasterWork> unless any other members show up
[15:05] <jfaust> I'm curious about the process.  Planned to just observe (and contribute if I could).  Happy to hang out for awhile and wait for others.
[15:06] <slickymasterWork> I'll give it another 10 minutes to see if anyone shows up
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> if not I'll reschedule it
[15:08] <slickymasterWork> ?
[15:08] <slickymasterWork> but as long as you're here now jfaust, did you already have a read at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
[15:09] <slickymasterWork> it's a good starting point for you
[15:10] <jfaust> Yes, I have read (most of) the contributor information.  Trying to test 16.04 now
[15:11] <slickymasterWork> great
[15:13] <jfaust> unfortunately I missed the recent meeting about testing. still not 100% how best to focus my efforts...
[15:14] <slickymasterWork> jfaust, here is the backlog of that meeting -> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/31/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t16:00
[15:15] <jfaust> oh, that's great!  Will definitely check it out.  Thanks!
[15:15] <slickymasterWork> sure jfaust, no problem
[15:16] <slickymasterWork> #info due to the lack of quorum the meeting is postponed and slickymaster will reschedule it
[15:17] <slickymasterWork> #action slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting
[15:17] <meetingology> ACTION: slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting
[15:18] <slickymasterWork> #endmeeting
[15:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Feb  5 15:18:00 2016 UTC.  
[15:18] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-02-05-15.00.moin.txt
[15:18] <slickymasterWork> thanks micahg and jfaust for showing up
[15:19] <jfaust> slickymaster, thanks for your help!  Will try to attend the next meeting.
[15:20] <slickymasterWork> are yo subscribed to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, jfaust?
[15:20] <slickymasterWork> if not, I advise to subscribe it
[15:20] <slickymasterWork> + you
[15:21] <jfaust> Yes, I am subscribed to the mailing list.  Hope to transition from a lurker to a contributor :)
[15:27] <slickymasterWork> you're more than welcome jfaust 
[15:34] <slickymasterWork> Minutes are up
[16:57] <flocculant> jfaust: basically - the question I have is - What position are you in to test? hardware? virtual? the dev version? the released stable version only? 
[17:00] <jfaust> hi flocculant.  I have a daily build (~1 week old) running in a virtual machine.  Just trying sotware and settings that I typically use.  I have a lot of thunar crashes in 15.10. haven't tried reproducing them in 16.04
[17:02] <flocculant> jfaust: ok 
[17:02] <jfaust> flocculant: build is actually 3 weeks old.
[17:02] <flocculant> let me gather my thoughts while the kettle boils 
[17:07] <flocculant> jfaust: ok so - in vm you could check the latest thunar and try reproducing - add this ppa
[17:07] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging?field.series_filter=xenial
[17:07] <flocculant> make sure you're updated first though
[17:07] <slickymasterWork> hey flocculant 
[17:07] <slickymasterWork> :P
[17:07] <flocculant> then update/upgrade should drag the new thunar and power manager in
[17:08] <flocculant> power manager changes won't be apparent in vm
[17:08] <flocculant> xenial is pretty stable atm - unless you're mad enough to use the proposed repos
[17:08] <flocculant> perhaps consider a dual boot
[17:09] <flocculant> I do that - data is in other partitions
[17:09] <flocculant> testing of the ppa thunar is important currently
[17:09] <flocculant> hi slickymasterWork :)
[17:09] <flocculant> jfaust: did you see http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ ? 
[17:10] <flocculant> there are 3 qa sections there
[17:10] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, did you read the backlog yet?
[17:10] <flocculant> yep
[17:10] <slickymasterWork> ok
[17:10] <flocculant> knew there was meeting - knew I'd be driving :)
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> I'll reschedule it during the weekend
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> you won't be around, I know ;)
[17:12] <flocculant> :D
[17:12] <jfaust> flocculant: upgrading now, will take a while :) i have read the contributor info., but still a little unsure about where to start.  will check it out again
[17:13] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: not back till monday/tuesday but no work next week at all
[17:13] <flocculant> jfaust: right 
[17:13] <flocculant> jfaust: tbh if you can the best place to start is run a dual boot. Then use the xenial one all the time - then fall back if something breaks
[17:13] <slickymasterWork> you lucky you, flocculant 
[17:13] <slickymasterWork> :P
[17:14] <flocculant> jfaust: I've had little to write home about since cycle start tbh
[17:14] <jfaust> flocculant: I will focus on thunar.  The crashes in 15.10 are not reproducible for me.  Mostly when renaming files or moving into subfolders.
[17:14] <jfaust> I will consider a dual boot.  definitely see the benefit of running 16 as primary
[17:15] <flocculant> jfaust: finally - being around on IRC and seeing what's current - and checking those things is useful to us hugely
[17:15] <flocculant> jfaust: ok - that'd be really helpful indeed - I'm sure there are people who do so - but we rarely get any feedback 
[17:16] <jfaust> flocculant:  sounds good.  still new to IRC.  forgive me lapses in etiquette :)
[17:16] <flocculant> oh and also - nothing to stop you running through the priority and mandatory testcases on http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases
[17:17] <flocculant> jfaust: :) basically enough - assuming you want people to treat you well - treat them the same and you'll be fine :D
[17:18] <flocculant> jfaust: aah cool - I see you on the testers team, when you say you're subscribed to mailing list - do you mean the dev one? that'd be the one to be using
[17:18] <jfaust> flocculant: sounds great!  thanks for pointing out the testcases.  i think that's what i've been looking for.
[17:19] <flocculant> they are a good way to break yourself into testing 
[17:19] <jfaust> flocullant: i am on the dev mailing list also
[17:20] <flocculant> but what we call exploratory testing is much better - and just a fancy name for 'installing and using the dev release on hardware normally' :)
[17:20] <flocculant> jfaust: k - the testers/dev list is where 99% of the qa focus is
[17:21] <flocculant> and finally finally - if you do have questions - anyone should be able to help you somehow - even if pointing you to who to ask
[17:22] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa/+members#active should be the best bets
[17:22] <flocculant> their IRC names are on their LP pages - mine is the same there as here :)
[17:23] <flocculant> sigh 
[17:23] <flocculant> so really I shouldn't say finally till the night arrives ...
[17:23] <jfaust> flocculant: ok, my plan will be to knock out the test cases first and then do more exploration.  thank you so much for all the help! I need to unplug now.  bye
[17:24] <flocculant> jfaust: thanks for the interest :)
[21:32] <ochosi> evening all
[22:04] <flocculant> hi ochosi if you're still with us :)
[22:06] <slickymaster> o/
[22:21] <ochosi> hey flocculant 
[22:22] <ochosi> slickymaster: sorry i couldn't make it for the meeting
[22:22] <flocculant> hey ochosi :)
[22:22] <slickymaster> no problem
[22:22] <ochosi> flocculant: i saw some of the backlog, havent had time yet for all of it
[22:22] <slickymaster> no one did :P
[22:22] <ochosi> so in case you wanna give me a quick summary, that wouldn't make me angry ;)
[22:23] <slickymaster> I'll reschedule for next week, ochosi 
[22:23] <ochosi> slickymaster: thanks!
[22:23] <flocculant> ochosi: might want to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/02/04/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:41
[22:23] <slickymaster> sure
[22:24] <flocculant> ochosi: not much in backlog here afaik
[22:24] <flocculant> I did CC meeting - brought up usc/g-s, fonts and core
[22:25] <flocculant> other than that - just said we were all cool as cucumbers (as always) and knew where the CC was
[22:25]  * slickymaster likes cucumber
[22:25] <slickymaster> in salads
[22:27]  * flocculant realises that ochosi would know that if he goes to the log first :p
[22:29] <flocculant> ochosi: not sure if you'll see this in backlog - I'm away till Monday/Tuesday
[22:30] <ochosi> k
[22:30] <ochosi> read the backlog now
[22:30] <flocculant> :)
[22:31] <ochosi> thanks for bringing up our issues
[22:31] <ochosi> good to know we can keep using droid
[22:31] <ochosi> the alternatives are okayish, but not exactly thrilling
[22:31] <flocculant> yea for sure
[22:32] <flocculant> I'm not in the least arty but I wasn't thrilled
[22:32] <ochosi> and about the -core issue, i'm not sure i got the gist of that
[22:33] <ochosi> hey knome 
[22:33] <knome> hey ochosi 
[22:34] <flocculant> ochosi: I was mostly interested from qa pov there tbh - if it's too late - it can be finished, but I'll not be signing it off untested
[23:50] <bluesabre> evening all
[23:52] <slickymaster> hey bluesabre 
[23:53] <knome> 'lo
[23:54] <bluesabre> hey slickymaster