[00:48] good evening all [00:49] hell [00:49] o [00:49] :| [00:58] :( [00:58] * bluesabre sobs uncontrollably in the corner [00:59] again? [00:59] :'( [00:59] now what is it this time? [00:59] you being a bully :P [01:00] right? [01:00] :D [07:21] bluesabre: bug 1533200 [07:21] bug 1533200 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "Black background at first login" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533200 [07:22] not sure what's causing that - but I guess we don't want to have that for 3 years ... [07:22] or rather than not sure - can't remember what ochosi said about it ... [07:24] or even if I misremember that :( [09:42] flocculant: Dang, bummer you got stuck with the CC meeting. :/ [09:42] Go well? [09:43] Unit193: I don't think it was that much of an ordeal... [09:45] flocculant did a great job explaining what's currently happening in the xubuntu world and which issues are currently most pressing. [09:49] dholbach: Hah, nothing personal. Just a bummer it was just him and none of us were there either. [09:49] Howdy. [09:51] ah ok :-) [09:51] Though you guys might look just as scary in the morning as knome. ;) [12:00] flocculant: I'll see if I can get a good look at that this weekend [12:02] flocculant: can you kick the tires on https://launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa catfish-daily? I'll probably go ahead and push out 1.4.0 this weekend if things seem to check out [12:02] and work on the greeter, see what I can fix [12:02] it's one of the worst kinds of bugs, everything is working until it stops [12:02] :D [12:56] Unit193: hah - no-one scares me :p [12:57] bluesabre: anything in particular this catfish fixes? or just have at it [12:58] and yes I understand that with the bug ... [12:59] bluesabre: I'll have a see at catfish when I'm really home later - I'm away from early tomorrow till Monday/Tuesday after that [13:00] Unit193: and yea - was ok - other than Daniel and Michael :p === qwebirc527879 is now known as slickymasterWork [14:51] !team | Meeting in ten minutes [14:51] Meeting in ten minutes: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [14:56] * dkessel will be on the road during the meeting [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started Fri Feb 5 15:00:01 2016 UTC. The chair is slickymasterWork. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:00] Welcome all to the Xubuntu community meeting. The agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [15:00] So, who's here for the meeting? [15:01] * micahg is here [15:01] welcome micahg :) [15:01] anyone else? [15:01] jfaust is here. first meeting for me [15:02] welcome jfaust :) [15:02] thanks! [15:04] unfortunately it seems that we won't have quorum to proceed with the meeting [15:04] there's just me and micahg here, from team [15:04] unless any other members show up [15:05] I'm curious about the process. Planned to just observe (and contribute if I could). Happy to hang out for awhile and wait for others. [15:06] I'll give it another 10 minutes to see if anyone shows up [15:07] if not I'll reschedule it [15:08] ? [15:08] but as long as you're here now jfaust, did you already have a read at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ [15:09] it's a good starting point for you [15:10] Yes, I have read (most of) the contributor information. Trying to test 16.04 now [15:11] great [15:13] unfortunately I missed the recent meeting about testing. still not 100% how best to focus my efforts... [15:14] jfaust, here is the backlog of that meeting -> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/31/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t16:00 [15:15] oh, that's great! Will definitely check it out. Thanks! [15:15] sure jfaust, no problem [15:16] #info due to the lack of quorum the meeting is postponed and slickymaster will reschedule it [15:17] #action slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting [15:17] ACTION: slickymaster to reschedule next Xubuntu Community Meeting [15:18] #endmeeting [15:18] Meeting ended Fri Feb 5 15:18:00 2016 UTC. [15:18] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-02-05-15.00.moin.txt [15:18] thanks micahg and jfaust for showing up [15:19] slickymaster, thanks for your help! Will try to attend the next meeting. [15:20] are yo subscribed to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, jfaust? [15:20] if not, I advise to subscribe it [15:20] + you [15:21] Yes, I am subscribed to the mailing list. Hope to transition from a lurker to a contributor :) [15:27] you're more than welcome jfaust [15:34] Minutes are up [16:57] jfaust: basically - the question I have is - What position are you in to test? hardware? virtual? the dev version? the released stable version only? [17:00] hi flocculant. I have a daily build (~1 week old) running in a virtual machine. Just trying sotware and settings that I typically use. I have a lot of thunar crashes in 15.10. haven't tried reproducing them in 16.04 [17:02] jfaust: ok [17:02] flocculant: build is actually 3 weeks old. [17:02] let me gather my thoughts while the kettle boils [17:07] jfaust: ok so - in vm you could check the latest thunar and try reproducing - add this ppa [17:07] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging?field.series_filter=xenial [17:07] make sure you're updated first though [17:07] hey flocculant [17:07] :P [17:07] then update/upgrade should drag the new thunar and power manager in [17:08] power manager changes won't be apparent in vm [17:08] xenial is pretty stable atm - unless you're mad enough to use the proposed repos [17:08] perhaps consider a dual boot [17:09] I do that - data is in other partitions [17:09] testing of the ppa thunar is important currently [17:09] hi slickymasterWork :) [17:09] jfaust: did you see http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ ? [17:10] there are 3 qa sections there [17:10] flocculant, did you read the backlog yet? [17:10] yep [17:10] ok [17:10] knew there was meeting - knew I'd be driving :) [17:11] I'll reschedule it during the weekend [17:11] you won't be around, I know ;) [17:12] :D [17:12] flocculant: upgrading now, will take a while :) i have read the contributor info., but still a little unsure about where to start. will check it out again [17:13] slickymasterWork: not back till monday/tuesday but no work next week at all [17:13] jfaust: right [17:13] jfaust: tbh if you can the best place to start is run a dual boot. Then use the xenial one all the time - then fall back if something breaks [17:13] you lucky you, flocculant [17:13] :P [17:14] jfaust: I've had little to write home about since cycle start tbh [17:14] flocculant: I will focus on thunar. The crashes in 15.10 are not reproducible for me. Mostly when renaming files or moving into subfolders. [17:14] I will consider a dual boot. definitely see the benefit of running 16 as primary [17:15] jfaust: finally - being around on IRC and seeing what's current - and checking those things is useful to us hugely [17:15] jfaust: ok - that'd be really helpful indeed - I'm sure there are people who do so - but we rarely get any feedback [17:16] flocculant: sounds good. still new to IRC. forgive me lapses in etiquette :) [17:16] oh and also - nothing to stop you running through the priority and mandatory testcases on http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases [17:17] jfaust: :) basically enough - assuming you want people to treat you well - treat them the same and you'll be fine :D [17:18] jfaust: aah cool - I see you on the testers team, when you say you're subscribed to mailing list - do you mean the dev one? that'd be the one to be using [17:18] flocculant: sounds great! thanks for pointing out the testcases. i think that's what i've been looking for. [17:19] they are a good way to break yourself into testing [17:19] flocullant: i am on the dev mailing list also [17:20] but what we call exploratory testing is much better - and just a fancy name for 'installing and using the dev release on hardware normally' :) [17:20] jfaust: k - the testers/dev list is where 99% of the qa focus is [17:21] and finally finally - if you do have questions - anyone should be able to help you somehow - even if pointing you to who to ask [17:22] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa/+members#active should be the best bets [17:22] their IRC names are on their LP pages - mine is the same there as here :) [17:23] sigh [17:23] so really I shouldn't say finally till the night arrives ... [17:23] flocculant: ok, my plan will be to knock out the test cases first and then do more exploration. thank you so much for all the help! I need to unplug now. bye [17:24] jfaust: thanks for the interest :) [21:32] evening all [22:04] hi ochosi if you're still with us :) [22:06] o/ [22:21] hey flocculant [22:22] slickymaster: sorry i couldn't make it for the meeting [22:22] hey ochosi :) [22:22] no problem [22:22] flocculant: i saw some of the backlog, havent had time yet for all of it [22:22] no one did :P [22:22] so in case you wanna give me a quick summary, that wouldn't make me angry ;) [22:23] I'll reschedule for next week, ochosi [22:23] slickymaster: thanks! [22:23] ochosi: might want to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/02/04/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:41 [22:23] sure [22:24] ochosi: not much in backlog here afaik [22:24] I did CC meeting - brought up usc/g-s, fonts and core [22:25] other than that - just said we were all cool as cucumbers (as always) and knew where the CC was [22:25] * slickymaster likes cucumber [22:25] in salads [22:27] * flocculant realises that ochosi would know that if he goes to the log first :p [22:29] ochosi: not sure if you'll see this in backlog - I'm away till Monday/Tuesday [22:30] k [22:30] read the backlog now [22:30] :) [22:31] thanks for bringing up our issues [22:31] good to know we can keep using droid [22:31] the alternatives are okayish, but not exactly thrilling [22:31] yea for sure [22:32] I'm not in the least arty but I wasn't thrilled [22:32] and about the -core issue, i'm not sure i got the gist of that [22:33] hey knome [22:33] hey ochosi [22:34] ochosi: I was mostly interested from qa pov there tbh - if it's too late - it can be finished, but I'll not be signing it off untested [23:50] evening all [23:52] hey bluesabre [23:53] 'lo [23:54] hey slickymaster