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| ssk | Can anyone please help me with auto volume boost on WebRTC in xubuntu? Thanks. | 13:59 |
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| ssk | Can anyone please help me with auto volume boost on WebRTC in xubuntu? Thanks. | 14:00 |
| ssk | Anyone please? | 14:00 |
| Atnon | Does anyone here have experience with Abelton Live or Adobe Photoshop on Xubuntu? | 14:38 |
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| xubuntu705 | can i just do a sudo apt-get remove abiword to remove? cause last time i did something like this and it wanted to remove xubuntu-desktop or something so i was alarmed and hesitant | 17:20 |
| flocculant | removing xubunt-desktop isn't an issue :) | 17:24 |
| G33kDude | xubuntu705, This is not directly related to your question (as I don't know the answer to that), but I think it's worth noting that xubuntu 15.10 comes with LibreOffice instead of AbiWord/Gnumeric | 17:24 |
| flocculant | all that means is you've removed something that is part of the default install | 17:24 |
| G33kDude | oh well | 17:26 |
| flocculant | G33kDude: following up on that point - jfyi - the only supported versions of Xubuntu with Abiword now is 14.04 | 17:26 |
| G33kDude | neat, didn't know that | 17:26 |
| flocculant | yep - 15.04 is now EOL - so people running that need to be updating | 17:27 |
| G33kDude | https://archive.org/details/malwaremuseum | 17:31 |
| RoadRunner | what's the best way of keeping python current (default install gives 3.4; latest is 3.5.1)? There seem to be lots of python ppa's (I dough up this one https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=trusty) but is that the best source? is there a system that rates reliability of similar ppa's? | 21:16 |
| xangua | No | 21:17 |
| Pici | RoadRunner: deadsnakes is generally the best python PPA | 21:18 |
| RoadRunner | xangua: "no" to no ppa rating system present? | 21:19 |
| RoadRunner | xangua: or "no" the source I found isn't the best one as Pici said? | 21:21 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: I recall looking at deadsnakes, but don't remember finding 3.5.1 | 21:23 |
| RoadRunner | generaly speaking, in the case of Python, is it more advisable to stay as current as possible or to go with an older version in favour of greater stability/predictability due to canonical support? | 21:25 |
| Pici | RoadRunner: unless you need something from 3.5.x, I don't see a problem with staying on 3.4. | 21:27 |
| Pici | If it was 3.3 that was offered in the repos, I'd probably be suggesting to go to 3.4, but thats another story. | 21:28 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: it seems I got confused there regarding deadsnakes, that is the link I gave above, isn't it? I just thought that "deadsnakes" refers to older - not current - versions even if from the same guy (fkrull) | 21:34 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: I don't need any of 3.5 features yet, but the reason why I thought of upgrading, is because I was thinking of installing IDLE, so either I stay with 3.4 and install 3.4 IDLE or get new py with its IDLE, what would be your final rulling on that? | 21:40 |
| Pici | RoadRunner: I'd say that IDLE is terrible and no one should be using it, but I don't think thats the answer you're looking for. | 21:41 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: its just that I started learning with IDLE so its just something familiar, but please feel free to make a suggestion for a better dev environment | 21:42 |
| Pici | RoadRunner: If you want a full IDE, pycharm is nice. Otherwise just use the REPL via python3 or ipython. | 21:42 |
| Pici | Also feel free to join us in #python if you want (although you'll need to be registered an identified with nickserv to join) | 21:43 |
| Pici | see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | 21:43 |
| teward | Pici: i thought PyCharm wasn't free? | 21:43 |
| teward | oop wait | 21:43 |
| * teward is used to his pro version | 21:43 | |
| teward | :) | 21:43 |
| Pici | teward: the community edition is free as in beer | 21:43 |
| teward | yep just realized, though a lot of that company's tools don't have a community edition heh | 21:44 |
| teward | +1 on the PyCharm recommendation though, I use it myself :) | 21:44 |
| RoadRunner | teward: the community free or the pro version? | 21:44 |
| Pici | I had a pro subscription for a while, but I just use vim nowadays. If I did more python stuff I'd probably check it out again. | 21:45 |
| teward | RoadRunner: I have the pro version. Benefits of being a University student, and JetBrains giving university students free access so long as one's a student | 21:45 |
| Pici | I was using pro back before they had the community edition availabel. | 21:45 |
| Pici | er, and paying for it. | 21:45 |
| teward | yeah, i did a lot of python at work recently, and needed an IDE for syntax, etc. | 21:46 |
| teward | +1 for PyCharm though | 21:46 |
| RoadRunner | is the free version much infrerior to pro? | 21:46 |
| teward | it might not have all the functions | 21:47 |
| Pici | https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html | 21:47 |
| teward | was about to link heh | 21:48 |
| teward | Pici: stahp ninjaing >.< | 21:48 |
| teward | loljk | 21:48 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: teward: so to recap, for someone starting to learn to dev in py: stay with 3.4, forget IDLE, get PyCharm free and use Vim for small things? | 22:09 |
| teward | Pici can comment on the first two, PyCharm is nice for bigger things, and for tiny small things, Vim / Vi / Nano / Emacs / EditorOfChoice is useful | 22:10 |
| * teward came in late, only recognized where Pici suggested PyCharm | 22:11 | |
| RoadRunner | PyCharm isn't in Ubuntu's soft repo; what's the best source for that? | 22:13 |
| RoadRunner | or should I just follow PyCharm's instructions, get their tar.gz and "Run pycharm.sh from the bin subdirectory"? | 22:21 |
| RoadRunner | Pici: teward: ? | 22:25 |
| teward | RoadRunner: it's not in the repos. Follow their instructions | 22:59 |
| teward | you may also have to chmod +x later | 23:00 |
| teward | (a couple files need executable perms and may not have them by default) | 23:00 |
| RoadRunner | I am surprised that its the same instructions for all linuxes... | 23:00 |
| teward | :P | 23:01 |
| teward | making sure you have the deps though is your job :) | 23:01 |
| RoadRunner | ? | 23:01 |
| RoadRunner | me being a newbie, the more I read about chmod, the more confused I got... | 23:02 |
| teward | RoadRunner: basically, if you run things and it says something can't be run, poke with the error and we'll help | 23:06 |
| teward | :) | 23:06 |
| * teward was unaware about 'newbie' state in this case :) | 23:06 | |
| RoadRunner | thanks for the help, will you be here for a while longer, if I am to attempt it now? | 23:11 |
| teward | yeah | 23:12 |
| teward | for a little while anyways | 23:13 |
| teward | (unless the fiancee shows up for dinner sooner) | 23:13 |
| teward | (since she's at work, and we're headed out this evening) | 23:13 |
| RoadRunner | in my experience, nothing on a computer takes just a little while :) | 23:13 |
| RoadRunner | for starters, in which dir should I unzip tar.gz? | 23:14 |
| teward | wait are you the same person i went on a security rant against a few days ago heh | 23:14 |
| RoadRunner | I'd have to check the logs, but could be :) | 23:15 |
| teward | RoadRunner: in my opinion, anywhere you want, I'm specific of wanting /opt/jetbrains/[FOLDER] but as you said you're not familar with chmod / chown as much, just create a folder in your home directory called "JetBrains_Apps", and unzip it inside that directory | 23:16 |
| teward | as I bet you're the only user on that system ;) | 23:16 |
| RoadRunner | just trying to keep things orderly and in line with the convention | 23:17 |
| knome | there are as many conventions as there are users | 23:18 |
| teward | ^ that | 23:18 |
| knome | to prove that, i keep my built apps in /data/store/apps | 23:19 |
| teward | and i have directory after directory after directory after ... [50 cycles later] ... after directory for differing types of apps, ranging from testing things, to test building packages, etc. | 23:20 |
| knome | ;)= | 23:21 |
| teward | though system-wide stuff I put into /opt/[COMPANY_OR_AUTHOR]/[PROGRAM_OR_PROJECT_NAME]/... | 23:21 |
| teward | but again, that's my convention; create your own :) | 23:21 |
| RoadRunner | so, if I put my aps in my home folder, no diff what so ever? | 23:22 |
| flocculant | well | 23:22 |
| knome | if only your user runs them, it doesn't matter where you put them | 23:23 |
| teward | ^ | 23:23 |
| teward | though *some* things run better when installed to system dirs | 23:23 |
| flocculant | depends on something pretty basic - how big did you make / or /home if on a seperate partition | 23:23 |
| knome | besides, you don't probably even know if you like the app or not, so it would probably be the best choice to just get on with it | 23:23 |
| teward | but in the case of PyCharm if it's just you using it, doesn't matter where, unless you have a small / or /home partition | 23:23 |
| knome | you can move it later | 23:23 |
| RoadRunner | I am the only user and I don't know if I'll like the app, but for future time and or for ease of backups, may it be a good idea to have the home dir on a sep partition? | 23:26 |
| knome | i wouldn't say backups are affected; reinstalling is | 23:26 |
| RoadRunner | when is it advantageous to have home on a sep partition? | 23:30 |
| xangua | Always | 23:30 |
| teward | knome: though reinstalling after system death is always a bad thing anyways | 23:30 |
| teward | (like, drive death, not just the main boards dying) | 23:31 |
| teward | (so BACKUPS ARE IMPORTANT!) | 23:31 |
| knome | but you can reinstall without any death ;) | 23:31 |
| teward | indeed | 23:32 |
| RoadRunner | so, looking ahead I would be better off moving home to a new partition now? | 23:32 |
| knome | RoadRunner, i would proceed with your original question and try out the app you were about to test | 23:33 |
| RoadRunner | ok | 23:34 |
| teward | ^ that | 23:34 |
| teward | bah late | 23:34 |
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