[00:00] <clivejo> I know I have to do the last two changelogs
[00:01] <sgclark> I *hope* it will merge properly next cycle with the fixes.
[00:01] <clivejo> but Im trying to merge libkface
[00:01] <clivejo> and the changelog isnt being merged properly
[00:02] <clivejo> maxy made a new changelog entry for it a few days ago
[00:02] <clivejo> but it isnt being displayed at the top
[00:02] <clivejo> this is so confusing
[00:03] <sgclark> I just fix them to go in order by date. Why it is messing up, I do not have answers :(
[00:04]  * sgclark curses at kwallet-pam CI stalker
[00:04]  * clivejo kicks KCI
[00:04] <clivejo> I didnt break it!!
[00:04] <sgclark> me either lol
[00:04] <clivejo> you are using the wrong f'ing branch
[00:05]  * clivejo goes crazy
[00:12]  * valorie makes so calming tea for the workers
[00:12] <clivejo> to have tea or not to have tea
[00:13] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
[00:14] <clivejo> dont make them drink tea!
[00:17] <yofel> for some reason, quassel shows the blame CI messages in my freenode server window, not the actually channel
[00:18] <yofel> so I never see those ^^
[00:18] <yofel> *actual
[00:18] <clivejo> lucky you!
[00:18] <sgclark> lol yeah lucky you
[00:18] <clivejo> yofel: could you please help me with libkface
[00:18] <sgclark> no matter what channel I am in it stalks me with blame messages
[00:18] <clivejo> pretty please
[00:19] <yofel> well, with what exactly?
[00:19] <clivejo> I dunno the changelog looks wrong
[00:19] <clivejo> its like its not merging it correctly
[00:19] <yofel> can happen
[00:19] <sgclark> sort by date.. 
[00:20] <sgclark> cut and paste, no other way.
[00:20] <clivejo> maxy's entry should be at the top
[00:20] <yofel> dpkg-mergechangelogs should sort by version automatically
[00:20] <clivejo> but its not
[00:20] <yofel> it sometimes failes though
[00:20] <yofel> *fails
[00:20] <sgclark> yofel it is not in many cases sadly
[00:20] <clivejo> does it tell you when it fails?
[00:20] <yofel> it works in a lot of cases for me, if it fails it usually shows merge conflicts in changelog
[00:20] <sgclark> changelogs seems to be the biggest problem in these merges. no idea why it is failing so much
[00:21] <clivejo> yofel: would you mind doing it and letting me know what wrong?
[00:21] <yofel> well, worst case you can also just take the individual changelogs and feed them into merge-changelogs
[00:21] <clivejo> its driving me crazy
[00:21] <sgclark> right and then I cut and paste in correct order, and all is well with the world.
[00:22] <yofel> I never had to cut and paste o.O
[00:22] <yofel> maybe a changelog or two didn't play well together and I had a fix something by hand, but I never had ordering issues
[00:23] <yofel> like, can you pastebin what you have right now?
[00:23] <sgclark> alright then, congratulations.
[00:23] <sgclark> I am off. laters
[00:23] <yofel> cu
[00:26] <clivejo> ah, I think I know whats wrong
[00:26] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkface.git/tree/debian/changelog
[00:26] <clivejo> maxy has forgot the epoch
[00:27] <clivejo> no
[00:27] <clivejo> hes renamed it and dropped it
[00:27] <yofel> we should do the same
[00:28] <yofel> but yeah, the epoch messed things up
[00:28] <clivejo> does that upset dpkg-mergechangelogs?
[00:29] <yofel> sure, after all 15.12.0 < 4:15.04.1
[00:30] <clivejo> how do I merge them?
[00:30] <clivejo> libkface (4:14.12.2-2) experimental; urgency=medium isnt in my supposely merged changelog
[00:31] <clivejo> if I took maxy's entry out of master locally and merged that would it work?
[00:32] <yofel> the result looks okay already?
[00:32] <yofel> ah no, the 14.12.3 changelog needs to go one step up
[00:32] <clivejo> no, my results look very wrong
[00:33] <yofel> ah well
[00:33] <yofel> I don't see that ^^
[00:36] <yofel> what you could do:
[00:36] <yofel> make a copy of the debian changelog, temporarily add the epoch, feed both changelogs to merge-changelog, then remove the epoch again
[00:36] <yofel> that might give you something sensible
[00:37] <yofel> might also require changing the package name back
[00:37] <yofel> clivejo: ^
[00:37] <clivejo> Ive removed maxy's entry from master
[00:37] <clivejo> commited locally
[00:37] <clivejo> merged that into xenial archive
[00:38] <clivejo> and added his back
[00:38] <clivejo> hes only on libkf5kface (15.12.0-1) experimental; urgency=medium
[00:38] <clivejo> so Ive added a new changelog libkf5kface (15.12.1-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
[00:38] <yofel> that might mess up git's auto merge tracking with a commit that doesn't really belong in there... but I might worry too much
[00:38] <clivejo> for .1
[00:38] <yofel> ack
[00:39] <clivejo> do you want to fix it
[00:39] <clivejo> its frying my brain
[00:40] <yofel> nah, we can fix that later
[00:41] <yofel> nobody reads the git history anyway
[00:41] <clivejo> so should I push what Ive done?
[00:41] <clivejo> makes sense in my head
[00:41] <yofel> go ahead
[00:47] <clivejo> yofel: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkface.git/log/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive
[00:47] <clivejo> does that look ok?
[00:48] <yofel> yes
[00:49] <clivejo> is it how you would do it?
[00:49] <clivejo> I wonder why maxy didnt upload 15.12.1 :/
[00:50] <yofel> ah, remove the changelog for 4:15.12.0-0ubuntu1 please
[00:51] <yofel> that's UNRELEASED
[00:51] <yofel> and maybe mention the merge in the new changelog entry
[00:51] <yofel> everything else looks about right
[00:53] <clivejo> ok done and uploaded to LP
[00:54] <clivejo> is experimental like an archive?
[00:55] <clivejo> ie maxy wont just bump that to 15.12.1?
[00:55] <yofel> latter I don't know, but experimental is a debian series, like unstable
[00:56] <yofel> it's used to prepare packages for unstable, either for testing or to gather all packages for a transition
[00:56] <yofel> they use it mostly like we use PPAs
[00:56] <clivejo> when you copy to xenial archive is there a script goes and updated the changelogs from UNRELEASED to xenial?
[00:56] <yofel> yes
[00:57] <clivejo> any how, time for bed!
[00:57] <clivejo> night all
[00:57] <yofel> nini
[09:34] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:54] <clivejo> yofel: cant seem to upload libkface - Unable to find libkf5kface_15.12.1.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution.
[09:54] <clivejo> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[10:20] <clivejo> lot of failures today
[10:22] <clivejo> oh kio is broken again!
[10:23] <lordievader> :(
[10:24] <clivejo> missing files and symbols
[10:43] <clivejo> yofel OR sgclark: in kio there are some new files - https://paste.kde.org/pwkjm3rrq  I cant see where they are supposed to go?  maybe a new package kiogui?
[10:53] <clivejo> also https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org/msg30155.html seems to indicate a new package
[13:39] <ovidiu-florin> hello humans
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> how do I add an article to Kubuntu wire?
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[13:50] <soee_> mparillo: ^
[14:22] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[14:22] <Riddell> let me see
[14:24] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: /msged
[14:25] <clivejo> Riddell: do KDE publish packaging guidelines somewhere?
[14:26] <clivejo> kio has new files for a libKF5KIOGui
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:37] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[14:38] <clivejo> anyone able to help me with a broken package issue?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> clivejo, which package?
[14:41] <clivejo> kolab
[14:41] <clivejo> Ive confused myself
[14:41] <clivejo> need new set of eyes
[14:42] <BluesKaj> never used kolab :/
[14:43] <clivejo> have you looked into broken packages before?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> only from the pov of fixing dependencies with usual commands , like sudo dpkg --configure -a, and sudo apt -f install or rolling back the system by ppa-purge
[14:55] <BluesKaj> clivejo,^
[14:55] <clivejo> oh ok
[14:56] <clivejo> this is a problem with a control file, but I cant put my finger on it
[14:59] <BluesKaj> i have fixed the odd dependency issue by installing the last required dependency listed by apt and moving up the list until they are all installed, but that method was only successful a few times, usually it's more hit and miss 
[15:32] <clivejo> grrrr
[15:33] <clivejo> how did I manage that!
[15:41] <Riddell> clivejo: there's no packaging guidelines except occationally for some projects that chose to add a README like calligra
[15:57] <ScottK> yofel: I still get the daily "Kubuntu daily CD health check" mails.  Would you please figure another alternate recipient and ask cjwatson to add them and remove me?
[15:58] <yofel> oh, I get those these days, I guess he didn't remove you. I'll ask him
[15:58] <ScottK> Thanks.  I do think it's good if you have an alternate to receive them.
[15:59] <yofel> riiight. I think I even made a todo task for that, but we never decided on one..
[16:17] <clivejo> yofel: did you get my message about libkface?
[16:18] <yofel> clivejo: missed it, seems like you uploaded without the tarball
[16:19] <clivejo> do I have to rename the tarball?
[16:19] <yofel> well, you already did do that, right? Otherwise the upload error makes no sense
[16:19] <clivejo> yofel: kio has a new lib
[16:20] <yofel> there's also some watch file magic to rename stuff I believe
[16:20] <clivejo> I created a new package in the control file
[16:20] <yofel> I'll look at that later, distracted right now
[16:20] <clivejo> but Im getting a lintian warning
[16:20] <clivejo> W: libkf5kiogui5: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5KIOGui.so.5.19.0 usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5KIOGui.so
[16:21] <clivejo> new package contains these new files - https://paste.kde.org/pwkjm3rrq#line-9
[16:23] <blaze> clivejo: *.so files are usually symlinks, those should be placed into "*-dev" packages
[16:24] <clivejo> I think that whole lib is for dev?
[16:24] <clivejo> header files too
[16:25] <blaze> yeah, header files should go to -dev
[16:25] <clivejo> so I need a libkf5kiogui5 and a libkf5kiogui5-dev package?
[16:27] <blaze> yes
[16:28] <blaze> and libkf5kiogui5-dbg I think
[17:16]  * soee_ has to upload 185 MB ... takes 35 min ...
[17:16] <clivejo> how come?
[17:16] <soee_> upload here in Poland sux :<
[17:30] <blaze> soee_: jaki ISP?
[17:31] <soee_> blaze: neo/orange
[17:35] <BluesKaj> soee_, what are the up and down speeds on your internet package?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> usually the up speeds aren't paid much attention, but in your case it's important I think
[17:38] <BluesKaj> usually the up speeds aren't paid much attention
[17:39] <soee_> BluesKaj: download is up to 10 Mb/s
[17:40] <soee_> uploads something like 960 KB/s
[17:40] <soee_> *96 KB
[17:54] <BluesKaj> soee_, yeah, that's quite slow ..very similar to miy up speed 100kbs , but i don't pay mch for my inyernet, only $35 Canadian/mos
[17:55] <BluesKaj> internet  even :-)
[21:44] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: It looks as if Riddell sent you access, but I see nothing new.
[21:44] <ovidiu-florin> because I'm looking into how to repost
[21:44] <Riddell>  I did
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> and not copy paste the article
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> https://arpadtoth.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/increasing-battery-life-on-kubuntu/
[23:13] <valorie> sgclark: when you have a moment, clivejo wants you to look at his merges and give him some feedback
[23:13] <valorie> but he doesn't want to disturb you by asking
[23:13]  * valorie isn't so polite always....
[23:22] <clivejo> konsole keeps hanging on me
[23:23] <clivejo> http://postimg.org/image/kzauwc11z/
[23:25] <valorie> hmmm
[23:25] <valorie> I use yakuake
[23:27] <clivejo> its the paste that crashes it
[23:28] <valorie> can you run that in gdb and figure out why?
[23:28] <valorie> !gdb
[23:28] <valorie> pfff
[23:28] <valorie> stupid ubottu
[23:29] <clivejo> its doesnt crash, I think its something to do with the focus of that window
[23:29] <valorie> http://community.kde.org/Amarok/Development/DebuggingHowTo 
[23:29] <valorie> gdb should figure out a freeze too
[23:31] <DarinMiller> how are you pasting? ctrl-shift-v, right click mouse, or ?
[23:33] <clivejo> ctrl-shift-v
[23:33] <clivejo> now dolphin is crashing
[23:33] <clivejo> FFS
[23:36]  * valorie runs off for a few mins