[16:49] <shakes808> Morning everyone.  I am redoing my server and want to know what "Publishing applications" is in the software to install section.
[17:36] <dzho> shakes808: on 14.04, I think that would be  agave, font-manager, fontforge, gimp, gimp-data-extras, gimp-gap, gimp-plugin-registry, gimp-ufraw, musescore, openclipart-svg, scribus
[17:36] <dzho> which are the recommends from ubuntustudio-publishing
[17:36] <dzho> this is based on tasksel
[17:38] <shakes808> dzho: Thank you.  I actually just got that same answer in the ubuntu server chat.  Was just about to echo back in here.
[17:39] <dzho> cool
[17:39] <shakes808> this is what they sent me: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/ubuntustudio-publishing
[17:39] <dzho> yeah.
[17:39] <dzho> the way I dug that up was to install tasksel, and then
[17:39] <dzho> tasksel --list-tasks
[17:39] <dzho> and I saw the package, and so did
[17:39] <shakes808> after my install finishes, I will try that
[17:39] <dzho> apt-cache show ubuntustudio-publishing
[17:40] <dzho> in general, if in doubt, leave it out, because you can always install it later
[17:40] <dzho> for values of "always" that assume you have a decent network connection
[17:40] <shakes808> yeah, that is what one of the other people said :)
[17:40] <dzho> \o/
[17:41] <dzho> we don't aspire to hivemind, but sometimes it happens :-)
[17:41] <dzho> it's interesting they don't include dia in there
[17:43] <dzho> and musescore is a funny choice for publishing in general, since it's specifically about music notation
[17:43] <dzho> fits in a "music studio" sense but less so in a "graphic design studio" sense
[17:44] <dzho> oh, another big one missing!
[17:44] <dzho> inkscape!
[17:48] <shakes808> haha
[17:53] <dzho> apt-get install gimp scribus inkscape dia
[17:53]  * dzho may look into what those other packages offer at some point
[17:58] <shakes808> hmmm.  install finished and now it won't boot  :(
[18:00] <dzho> :(
[18:01] <shakes808> i can get into the bios
[18:02] <dzho> is it in fact a bios machine or is an efi machine?
[18:02] <dzho> how new, etc
[18:04] <shakes808> the computer is an old DELL 330.  I had Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on this which I just upgraded from the last LTS.  I think something happened to it, because my user wasn't part of sudoer and I couldn't get into ROOT.  So I just went ahead and installed 15.10 on it.  and not it gets past the initial DELL boot screen but then blank.
[18:04] <shakes808> I tried to SSH into it and nothing as well.
[18:05] <shakes808>  :(
[18:07] <shakes808> maybe too old for 15.10?
[18:08] <shakes808> seeing if the usb boots up
[18:09] <shakes808> yes :(
[18:09] <dzho> optiplex 330
[18:09] <dzho> with intel core 2 duo
[18:09] <dzho> if that's it, shouldn't be a problem
[18:10] <dzho> the only age-related problem I know about with regard to hardware has been with machines that didn't support PAE well
[18:10] <dzho> and that has to do with hardware much older than core 2
[18:11] <shakes808> right?! That is what I thought.  :( going to reinstall it
[18:54] <shakes808> i am thinking that 15.10 can't be run on my hardware.  going back to 14.04
[20:58] <shakes808> 14.04 works :) just need to get everything else updated.  thank you for your assistance today dzho
[22:14] <dzho> :)