[01:39] <lotuspsychje> could this be interesting for the topic? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet
[03:26] <n1cky> I'm noticing a lot of curl 404's when running my initial phablet-dev-bootstrap, is that safe to ignore?
[09:08] <CheeryLee> j
[15:30] <CheeryLee> If I remove symlinks in my kernel, is it start?
[16:18] <CheeryLee> Anybody answer me?
[16:28] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: What symlink? In boot.img's initramfs?
[16:28] <CheeryLee> Yep
[16:39] <CheeryLee> I know why my kernel doesn't start. I have no /android directory in root and android-ramdisk.img.
[16:45] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: What root? You mean system.img?
[16:45] <CheeryLee> I mean /
[16:45] <CheeryLee> The root of whole files on device
[16:46] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: "/" has no meaning without context. Anything can be "/" (think multiple OSes installed on the same machine)
[16:47] <CheeryLee> It is place that contains boot, cache, sys, system folders etc.
[16:47] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: How do you discover that? In recovery?
[16:48] <CheeryLee> Yes.
[16:48] <CheeryLee> For example, Meizu MX4 Ubuntu has android folder in root.
[16:51] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: I don't think thats where it should be. run 'mount /data' and see if there's /data/ubuntu.img
[16:56] <CheeryLee> Not found.
[16:59] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: what's in /data?
[17:00] <CheeryLee> Android files
[17:04] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: That's strange. Are there any of android-data, system-data or user-data in /data?
[17:06] <CheeryLee> Hard to say... For example, there is dalvik-cache folder.
[17:08] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: So there's not those 3 dirs and ubuntu.img, right? Then I think there's problem with flasing process.
[17:09] <CheeryLee> Yep. There are only Android folders.
[17:10] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: use TWRP to "format" data partition, and then try using rootstock-touch-install again.
[17:12] <aLeSD_> hi all
[17:12] <aLeSD_> are there differences between ubuntu qml and qt qml ?
[17:13] <dobey> qml itself? no. there is ubuntu-ui-toolkit however, and some qtquick modules are not installed on the phone
[17:16] <aLeSD_> dobey, so ... if I develop in qt quick ... I can deploy the app into ubuntu-touch ?
[17:17] <dobey> aLeSD_: depends on how few APIs you use.
[17:17] <aLeSD_> dobey, what do you mean ?
[17:18] <dobey> aLeSD_: as i said, all of qtquick is not installed on the phone. ubuntu-ui-toolkit is the supported way to create UI for a phone app
[17:18] <dobey> aLeSD_: if you want to use extra things, you may need to ship modules yourself in your app's package
[17:19] <dobey> also, there is #ubuntu-app-devel for questions like this :)
[17:19] <aLeSD_> ah ... ok . Tahnks
[17:45] <CheeryLee> peat-psuwit: Now I have system.img in /data. Whats next?
[17:48] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: 'mkdir /cache/system' then 'mount -o loop /data/system.img /cache/system/'
[17:48] <CheeryLee> Next?
[17:49] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: See if there's /cache/system/boot/android-ramdisk.img
[17:50] <CheeryLee> No, I have no it.
[17:52] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: Err, sorry. /cache/system/var/lib/lxc/android/system.img ?
[17:52] <CheeryLee> Yes, I have it.
[17:53] <CheeryLee> Maybe I need to add android-ramdisk.img into system.img?
[17:53] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: No no no. I misremember the location.
[17:54] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: run 'mkdir /cache/android-system' then 'mount -o loop /cache/system/var/lib/lxc/android/system.img /cache/android-system'
[17:56] <CheeryLee> Yes, in /cache/android-system/boot I have ramdisk
[17:59] <mimecar> good evening
[17:59] <CheeryLee> Good.
[18:19] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: Then I guessed the problem is withing boot.img. Out of idea how to debug if you can't get into recovery right after bootloop without holding power button.
[18:21] <CheeryLee> But recovery working.
[18:23] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: It's something in initramfs, or the init.
[18:23] <CheeryLee> Maybe some flags in config script are wrong?
[18:24] <CheeryLee> Init in initramfs or android-ramdisk.img?
[18:25] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: I mean init in /data/system.img (upstart)
[18:33] <peat-psuwit> CheeryLee: Could you try holding volume up button when it bootloop again?
[18:33] <CheeryLee> I tried. Nothing happens.
[19:49] <_Sponge> https://redd.it/445o1y
[21:15] <_Sponge> Is the tablet going to have a sim card ?
[21:20] <_Sponge> hi mimecar.
[21:20] <mimecar> hi _Sponge
[21:21] <mimecar> it seems that the tablet does not include SIM
[21:23] <_Sponge> mimecar: That's a shame.
[21:23] <mimecar> We will know all the details at MWC
[21:23] <_Sponge> I guess you could use the Convergence Phone as a Wifi Hotspot.
[21:24] <mimecar> you can use the phone as a Wifi Hotspot
[21:27] <_Sponge> sounds good = I like catch.
[21:48] <_Sponge> Oh my old netbook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KS2YRGggmQ
[23:27] <Thorondor> Hi All, I'm trying to port a program that was using QOpenGLWidget to ubuntu touch. I realized this isn't supported in this platform and tried to move to something QtQuick based. Now my program is able to render but I cannot trigger asynchronous renderings from other threads... Any hints on how could I achieve that? I tried setting a signal connected to the window::update() slot, but the scene doesn
[23:27] <Thorondor> 't get rendered automatically