[08:33] Good morning. [11:04] hi lordievader [11:05] >_< [11:07] yofel: you about? [11:22] Hey clivejo, how are you doing? [11:23] Relieved some stress from yesterday? [11:27] not really [11:28] need help [11:28] if I could just get a yes or a no whether Im doing these merges correctly [11:29] Unfortunately I cannot help you with that. [11:30] so Im just playing about with packaging kolab [11:37] clivejo: pong [11:38] hi yofel would you check over my merges [11:43] clivejo: I'll probably won't review everything, but I'll look at some of them [11:44] I need help with kio too [11:44] Ive really messed it up :( [11:44] saying that, the changelog in knetwalk is wrong [11:45] frameworks kio? [11:46] yes [11:47] could you push your changes somewhere so I can see them? [11:49] yofel: there are a few changes [11:51] well, I need to see them *somehow*. You can also git add everything then pastebin the output of git diff HEAD [11:51] that should show all changes [11:51] as long as you didn't commit anything yet [11:51] Ive only touched the unstable branch [11:52] ok, there we go. Now I know where to look :) [11:52] but I created a stable branch [11:53] and thats when things started going haywire :( [11:53] theres a new lib libkf5kiogui [11:53] so I added two new packages libkf5kiogui5 and libkf5kiogui5 -dev [11:54] but somehow I seems to have done a merge of master into unstable [11:54] do frameworks even need a stable branch? [11:55] and remove libkf5kiogui5 -dev, the content belongs into kio-dev [11:56] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kio.git/diff/debian/libkf5kiogui5.install?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=0e3e08096a4ead8b06a8610277d5f17ceb21d184 [11:56] please wildcard the api version away. [11:57] how do you keep local branches separate? [11:59] I don't quite get your question. Local branches are kept separate by different names. Remote branches are namespaced using their remote by default [11:59] e.g. local kubuntu_unstable trackes remote origin/kubuntu_unstable [11:59] like if I want to build it locally and make changes to try and fix it [11:59] you commit without pushing? [11:59] sometimes these "experiental" changes are getting into the branch and being commited [12:00] always read the git diff output before committing [12:00] Id intended to keep them local [12:00] aah [12:01] you have changes that you only want to keep in your local env [12:01] the thing intended for managing that would be git stash [12:01] well for example I just pasted in the files here - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kio.git/diff/debian/libkf5kiogui5.install?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=0e3e08096a4ead8b06a8610277d5f17ceb21d184 [12:01] but then changed it locally and build it [12:02] but it seems to have take my "experimental" changes and commited them [12:02] nothing ever gets committed without you running git commit [12:03] so please explain a bit more detailed what you actually did [12:03] I use git gui to commit [12:03] I stage and commit them in git gui [12:03] then you need to be careful about what you stage.. [12:04] then push using git push origin kubuntu_unstable [12:05] I stage the final version, but sometimes it only stages changes I made a while back [12:05] its a bit crazy [12:05] well, I haven't used git gui in a long time, so I can't help you with that [12:06] but it's probably a good idea if you run git diff before pushing [12:06] + git status [12:06] just to be sure that what you're pushing is what you want to push [12:07] so wildcard usr/lib/*/libKF5KIOGui.so.5.* ? [12:07] is there a way to remove that kubuntu_stable branch? [12:08] yes [12:08] no [12:09] Ill do that later, have some work to do outside [12:09] you are not allowed to delete branches on alioth [12:13] can somebody take a look at this bug report? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359120 [12:13] KDE bug 359120 in updater "Muon update removed Kubuntu desktop" [Critical,Unconfirmed] [12:13] looks like a packaging issue in Kubuntu [12:16] I don't see the log [12:16] ah [12:16] nvm [12:17] installng intel microcode removed packages 0.o [12:24] Err, wut? Why? What did it remove by the way? [12:36] FYI I filed FTBFS bug against kblog and ktnef bug #1543093 [12:36] bug 1543093 in ktnef (Ubuntu) "fails to build with No rule to make target '/usr/lib/libical.so'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543093 [13:01] Are you really planning to add a new -dev package in kio for the new favicons thingy? [13:01] All the other parts are in kio-dev. [13:03] maxyz: i guess no [13:03] clivejo: ^ [13:05] There is a thread about kdeconnect in the list pkg-kde-talk that needs some input from the kubuntu side of things. [13:05] Hey folks [13:05] And it would be nice is we can consider pkg-kde-talk a list were we can coordinate some things. [13:12] it would be nice to have akonadi-server deps done in a debian way [13:13] there are reasons why mysql is handled the way it is [13:14] I've recently realized that mysql-server-core was missing in the mysql backend dependencies. [13:14] i know, but still mysql backend is the default one [13:14] unless akonadi learns runtime backend support detection, uninstalling mysql is not an option [13:16] Also, mysql is the only reasonably supported backend [13:18] hopefully akonadi-nextgen will be ready soon [13:46] thunderbird works... :) [13:48] maxyz: I am pretty sure the understanding was that all kubuntu people with commit access are to subscribe to pkg-kde-talk so it's more a problem of not reading/answering than not being subscribed (: [13:54] sitter: Ok, I have an answer in draft, but every time I read I re write it. === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [15:04] clivejo, yofel: jobs updated. took a bit longer than expected unfortunately [15:04] clivejo: I am pretty sure the job count is broken or something ... notice how the installation count dropped for no apparent reason rather substantially https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Countjobs+Viewstabbar [15:04] maxyz: do you have access to delete a branch on alioth? [15:04] I think if you want it back you'll have to file a bug and/or find someone to look into it [15:07] oh oh, I also ripped out 'discover' to not have confusion there [15:07] is it plasma-discover now? [15:09] yeah [15:09] nice :) [15:12] * BluesKaj still uses muon [15:21] yofel: regarding knetwalk, the changelog didnt get staged with my commit [15:22] I dont understand why this is happening [15:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/14993712/ [15:24] how did git-buildpackage-ppa work? [15:28] clivejo: There is a hook that forbids that, but it can be done, directly or disabling the hook [15:28] maxyz: apologies, I went a bit crazy over the weekend [15:29] clivejo: I was planning on updating the hook to forbid the deletion of non merged branches [15:29] maxyz: for some reason I convinced myself that KCI needed a kubuntu_stable branch to work [15:30] maxyz: how do you get the information to write a description of a package? [15:31] for example that kiogui lib, where do you go to find out what it is? [15:32] clivejo: For libraries the api is usually a good start, the code is in src/gui 1 .h file, so it was easy enough [15:34] maxyz: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kio.git&a=tree&h=b3c4f8d89813c326ecc31ce2f3e8c92901532494&hb=8d016d2950778168a9deb90bd51a1d78f91e7705&f=src%2Fgui [15:34] where does it say what the lib does? [15:35] clivejo: The cmakelist lists the source files that are part of the KF5KIOGui library, in this case faviconrequestjob.cpp [15:37] The faviconrequestjob.h has a doxygen documentation of the API. which only add a support for faviconrequests. So the name "kiogui" is quite bad. [15:52] clivejo: did you maybe commit but not push? Then git-buildpackage-ppa would work.. [15:53] Im sure I pushed [15:55] when I do git merge master, if everything goes ok does it autocommit? [15:56] Merge branch 'master' into kubuntu_xenial_archive that is the automatic generated commit message [16:13] Guys, can someone tell me how to fix this bug? http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ajA5xwq_460s.jpg [16:16] clivejo: yes [16:17] should also be the commit message for non-automatic merges [16:17] should I be doing it in two steps? [16:18] the merge first, commit, then fix the changelog & new release? [16:20] yofel: why has master got an UNRELEASED in it? [16:20] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/signon-kwallet-extension.git/tree/debian/changelog [16:20] line 45 [16:20] if you do it like that then it's pointless to split the steps [16:20] merge --no-commit, fix changelog, commit, new release [16:20] is something I tried once. But that's more hassle than it's worth IMO [16:21] looks like we never released it? [16:21] does that belong in master? [16:22] ah wait master [16:22] yeah debians master branch [16:22] I guess that was simply merged before we released that. Can probably be removed [16:22] AFTER merging in the new changelog entries [16:23] it's not just us merging in debian, the other way happens too [16:24] yofel: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/signon-kwallet-extension.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive&id=522030fa0d547ad82834b99f7f17a107f58ccd74 [16:31] I think Im causing more problems than Im fixing with these merges [16:40] clivejo: I'll fix that in signon-kwallet-extension master branch [16:41] maxyz: thanks :) [16:42] maxyz: how do you know which KDE applications have been changed? [16:42] do you have a script compares the source tarballs or something? [16:43] clivejo, I check the diff against the previous release tag [16:43] kde git? [16:43] I import the tarballs, but kde.git should work. [16:44] thats clever [16:45] are you the main KDE packager then? [16:48] clivejo: for now, yes, I'm trying to replace myself with jenkins or something like that. [16:49] you cant be replaced! [16:50] how long have you been packaging? [16:51] kde, 2 years, or so. Random stuff in Debian, ~10 years. [16:52] do you have any experience with kolab? [16:55] At what level? I never used it, but I uploaded some versions of the libs with the help of detrout. heffee works there so he should probably know more about it. [16:55] Im trying to package it on Launchpad [16:55] but Im having trouble with the existing packaging [16:56] I wanted to add the dovecot support to debian some time ago, but I use SOGo, which is ugly, but it works, so it's not really worth the change for me. [18:58] !project neon [18:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about project neon [19:00] BluesKaj: CI now [19:04] genii, yeah, but I read something here the other day about new a project neon [19:04] anew [19:05] http://neon.kde.org.uk/ [19:07] something about JR announcing it [19:08] he did at FOSDEM, a week ago on sunday [19:09] it was in the rss feeds https://dot.kde.org/2016/01/30/fosdem-announcing-kde-neon [19:09] not sure if the video of his talk is there yet? [19:14] asume this a new neon project, separate from the old one [19:16] Seems to be no pool/ there [19:18] genii: the neon repo? [19:23] all this publicity about new plasma desktops but there's is no comprihensive guide for them, for example activities has a whole lot of hype, but I've yet to find any tuts for them that actually help make it work [19:23] Yep [19:25] correction: make them work :-) [19:26] http://archive.neon.kde.org.uk/unstable/pool/ [19:26] BluesKaj: ask in #kde-neon ? [19:28] looking for a method to assign apps that launch inside anactivity when the activity itself is launched, supposedly there's a method to do that, but the only one i found doesn't do what it claims [19:31] clivejo, I'm not compaining about neon's apps whatewver they might be, just the activities in plasma 5 [19:32] BluesKaj: I guess my point is that this is Kubuntu development, at the moment we have nothing really to do with Neon and how it operates [19:34] BluesKaj: It is called KDE Neon, to avoid confusion (a little) with Project Neon. [19:34] And the video ain't available yet. [19:34] yeah it's only in the sense that KDE/plasma is the Kubuntu desktop [19:34] I'm not bothering with neon , just to clarify :-) [19:37] I have enough desktop freezes happening here of late, I don't need any more [19:42] in a week or so qt5.6rc will arrive, that would be a good sign [20:13] yofel: would you look at marble please [20:42] yofel: Debian dropped the epoch in this package http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkmahjongg.git/commit/?id=f36da2301091ad464370795f81039c7d3291abbd [20:42] can we rename and do the same? [22:17] anyone installed kubuntu-desktop on xenial? [23:05] clivejo: I could -- what is the question? [23:06] does it install? [23:15] I'll start it up and try that [23:18] updating first though [23:36] clivejo: yes, we should do the rename as well [23:37] marble will have to wait for tomorrow [23:42] is the broken installer our problem, or ubuntu's problem? [23:42] someone was asking last night about the daily ISO -- and s/he is among many reporting a broken installer [23:42] we can't release that way... [23:43] did you install Ubuntu first? [23:43] ours, ubuntu just broke it [23:44] well yeah, but fixing the installer can be done after feature freeze, unless someone really wants to take care of that [23:44] only two months left :/ [23:44] tick tock [23:45] what 2 months? [23:45] feature freeze is in 1.5 weeks [23:45] release [23:46] 16.04? [23:46] maybe they'll wait til 16.06? [23:46] release yes, but that's not the only milestone we need to pay attention to [23:46] no [23:48] 16.07? [23:49] now you're just plain delusional :P [23:49] yofel, good point [23:49] having it broken does keep people from testing, though [23:50] darn it, in my xenial upgrade I missed the chance to tell it to use the new configs