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hikikohi06:13
didrocksgood morning07:01
pittiGood morning07:08
larsumorning!07:55
didrockshey larsu!08:02
larsuhi didrocks! How are you?08:05
didrocksI'm good, thanks! Yourself?08:05
seb128good morning desktopers08:05
larsugreat thanks!08:05
seb128hey  didrocks larsu pitti08:05
larsujust came back from the gym08:05
larsuhi seb128 :)08:05
pittibonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon week-end ?08:05
didrockshey seb128 :)08:05
seb128pitti, oui, très bon ! samedi on a mangé chez des amis et joué à des jeux, et hier j'avais un match de tennis08:06
seb128pitti, et vous ? c'était bien les tambours du bronx ?08:06
seb128didrocks, lut, bien rentré ? had fun in London ?08:06
hikikohi pitti larsu didrocks seb12808:07
pittiseb128: oui, c'était magnifique ! samedi on a visité la ville Salzburg08:07
seb128hey hikiko08:07
pittiseb128: c'est un très vieux et belle ville, et il y avait beaucoup de soleil aussi :)08:07
larsuhi hikiko and pitti!08:08
seb128pitti, super!08:08
pittihey hikiko!08:08
pittimoin moin larsu!08:08
didrockshey hikiko :)08:09
didrocksseb128: yeah, was busy in London. Back on Saturday, but woke up at 5 to get the first train :p08:09
seb128crazy!08:09
seb128I hope you weren't too tired/didn't get ubuflu due to that08:10
didrockstired yeah, flu, it doesn't seem :p08:11
didrocksdespite a crazy week with crazy hours08:11
seb128quiet week in Lyon this week? ;-)08:12
didrocksI hope so, there are some deliveries for this week, so, we'll see08:14
willcookemorning desktoppers08:55
willcookeurgh.  Massive inbox this morning08:56
larsumorning willcooke08:57
larsusorry to hear. good luck!08:57
seb128hey willcooke08:58
willcookelarsu, thanks08:58
seb128willcooke, spam? or did people work over the w.e?08:58
willcookelarsu, btw - could you take a look at bug #153905508:58
ubot5`bug 1539055 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "latest update broke overlay scrollbar on terminals" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153905508:58
larsuyep!08:58
willcookeseb128, people were working on docs over the weekend for ASM prep.08:58
* willcooke ignored emails this weekend (yay)08:59
willcookelarsu, thank you!08:59
seb128I see08:59
Laneyhullo09:02
andyrockmorning09:02
willcookemorning Laney, andyrock09:02
seb128hey Laney andyrock09:03
Laneysup09:09
seb128Laney, had a good w.e?09:09
Laneyseb128: I got a peace lily and a venus fly trap09:11
didrockshey Laney, willcooke!09:11
Laneyso that is a good weekend to me09:11
willcookemorning didrocks09:11
Laneyother than that it was quiet09:11
Laneycan't find any flies to feed to the thing09:12
Laneyand a slug was too big09:12
seb128heh09:12
Laneyhi didrocks & willcooke!09:12
Laneyseb128: you????09:12
seb128Laney, w.e was good, we had diner with friends on saturday and played some game and I had a tennis match yesterday (blue sky yeah! be lot of wind as well :-()09:13
* seb128 hates wind09:13
larsuLaney!09:13
Laneynice09:13
larsumorning09:13
Laneyit's verrrrrrrrrrrry windy now09:13
Laneystorm imogen!09:13
Laneyhola larsu09:14
Laneyyou back home?09:14
larsuyup09:14
Laneyneat09:14
larsuboth wheels of my bike were stolen09:14
larsufuckers09:14
LaneyUN NEAT09:14
Laneywhere was it09:14
larsucourtyard09:14
Laney:(09:14
larsuframe and everything's still there09:15
Laneyi hope they immediately went over some broken glass09:15
larsuI just had one of the tubes replaced before I left for brussels :/09:15
larsuah well09:15
larsushit happens09:15
larsuotherwise I'm great!09:15
* Laney needs to unsubscribe from the juju list STAT09:16
pittihey Laney, how are you?09:36
willcookelarsu @ bike - noooo. sorry to hear that09:37
Laneyhey pitti09:47
LaneyI'm doing good thanks09:47
Laneyour friend who does painting just turned up to start re-painting some of the walls downstairs09:47
Laney\o\09:47
Laneyhow are you?09:47
pittiLaney: I'm great, thanks! We had a great Friday evening (Les Tambours du Bronx) and Saturday (visiting the city) in Salzburg09:48
pittiand a nice calm Sunday for a change09:48
Laneypitti: /me listens to http://www.tamboursdubronx.com/en/ --- sounds good!09:51
Laneywas it a proper concert or on the street?09:52
pittiLaney: no, in some basement music club09:52
pittihttps://www.rockhouse.at/09:53
TrevinhoHi folks... it seems lp:unity has been recovered :-)09:54
* Laney force pushes to it again09:55
seb128hey Trevinho!09:55
seb128well done :-)09:55
Trevinhoseb128: it's all cjwatson merit :)09:55
seb128how did he do it?09:55
Trevinhobtw hi seb128  :)09:55
Trevinhoseb128: well, some bzr +ssh foo09:55
Trevinhowe tried to reconcile, it didn't work, so... he had to force something.09:56
alexarnaudGood morning all !09:56
seb128hey alexarnaud09:56
alexarnaudseb128: do you have a good weekend?09:58
seb128alexarnaud, yes, quite relaxing which was nice! what about you?09:58
Trevinhodidrocks: so... Can you now repropose lp:~didrocks/unity/dep-session-shorcuts with a proper branch or should I do that?10:03
didrocksTrevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity/dep-session-shorcuts/+merge/285312!10:05
Trevinhodidrocks: thanks10:12
didrocksyw!10:13
larsucharles: connecting my phone makes indicator-power crash and restart all the time - is that known?10:22
seb128larsu, bt?10:22
seb128but not likely known no10:22
larsudidn't make one10:22
larsuwill do when I'm back home and have the cable again10:23
larsu(this happened last night)10:23
seb128gdb is your friend!10:23
seb128k10:23
larsuI think the problem is that the iphone doesn't report charging status correctly10:23
larsuor linux doesn't read it right10:23
larsuupower always had it a 0%10:23
seb128not a reason to segfault though10:23
seb128I didn't see recent reports about that though10:24
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seb128the indicator also didn't change recently10:24
larsumaybe it's not segfaulting but just flickering the icon?10:24
seb128let's see with the bt10:24
seb128could be...10:24
* larsu didn't look deeply yet too be honest10:24
larsu*to10:24
pittididrocks: I see some queued ubuntu-make tests on armhf; OOI, how are these holding up? and how about the other arches?11:53
didrockspitti: they should have run on all archs (but couldn't check on other yet, on something else)11:54
pittididrocks: I meant, are these reasonably robust for you now? particularly, armhf isn't the most robust thing in the world11:54
didrockspitti: most of the tests are ignored on that archs normally (apart from unit ones), so it's a good first trial on this :)11:55
pittididrocks: oh, that's a first? *drumroll* :-)11:55
pittididrocks: almost there! http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#queue-xenial-armhf11:55
didrocks:)11:56
pittididrocks: although you probably should have checked on s390x first, it's so much faster11:56
didrockspitti: good hint for next time :)11:56
pittior just try them both :)11:58
pittiI guess s390x isn't a prime target for u-make, though :)11:58
didrocksyeah :p12:01
davmor2pitti: really you mean user won't be installing s390x systems in their bedrooms just for the extra speed?12:03
pittidavmor2: maybe for the heating!12:03
davmor2hahaha12:03
larsuwillcooke: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/fix-terminal/+merge/28533112:06
larsuwillcooke: couldn't find a fix that applies to all scrollbars, so I had to add a terminal-specific rule12:06
larsu(out to lunch)12:06
Laneyhaha12:06
willcookethx lars!12:06
LaneyGood Fix!12:06
pittiLaney: yay, IS fixed the ppc64el DHCP b0rkage, so these pesky "timed out for ssh" should be gone now -- knocking on virtual wood!12:18
Laneypitti: yeah, just saw the mail!12:18
pittiand the queue is catching up12:19
Laney93, not too bad12:19
* pitti re-enables in britney12:19
didrockspitti: how do I bypass a blocking systemd job at boot? (LSB: Raise nework interfaces)12:19
didrockspitti: I tried to control+C/D12:19
pittididrocks: boot with the rescue shell and stop it there?12:20
pittididrocks: I assume that's on a local VM, how  did you get there even?12:20
didrockspitti: it's with ubuntu core, trying to configure wlan012:20
pittiwow, that's hardcoded there?12:20
pittididrocks: mark it as "allow-hotplug" instead of "auto" perhaps?12:20
didrocksthere is no network-manager12:21
pittibut hardcoding an "auto" wlan0 in /e/n/i is seriously broken12:21
didrockspitti: that's the official doc :p12:21
pitti(both the "auto" and the "wlan0" bits..)12:21
pittididrocks: oh, you mean you added it there? ok, *phew* :)12:23
pittididrocks: it should time out by itself after some 3 minutes12:23
* pitti had loooots of opportunity to watch that timeout on cloud instances recently12:24
didrockspitti: yeah, it was written "no timeout", that's why I pinged you first12:24
pittioha?12:24
didrocksbut it did timeout after quite some time, indeed12:24
pittididrocks: ah, maybe they overrode the timeout then; normally it's 5min12:24
pitti$ systemctl show -p TimeoutStartUSec  networking.service12:25
pittiTimeoutStartUSec=5min12:25
didrocksTimeoutStartUSec=012:25
pittiyou can check that on your image12:25
pittiah, then they overrode that; check with systemctl cat?12:25
didrockspitti: it's 15.04 ftr12:26
* pitti blinks -- vivid!12:26
didrocks(it seems no override)12:26
didrockspitti: yeah, it's the official focus/target for Ubuntu Core for now (I know…)12:26
didrocksso, this is weird…12:27
pittididrocks: yeah, it used to be the init.d script back then, that might have been different12:27
didrockspitti: yeah, it's a converted script12:27
didrocksI have a MAC address12:27
didrocksso the wifi card was detected12:27
pittididrocks: RLY -- I thought that was the phone, and snappy is xenial12:27
didrockspitti: not for what we "promote" at least and the official doc12:27
* pitti sticks finger in ears, sings "lalala", and heads off to grab some lunch12:27
didrockswpasupplicant is installed12:27
didrocksbut it can't find any ssid around12:27
didrocks(I guess that's why it times out)12:27
pittididrocks: ah, "sudo iwlist scan" -> no result?12:28
pittiI guess/hope linux-firmware is installed, but maybe it's missing something there12:28
didrocksno command :p12:29
didrocksI tried with wpa_cli12:29
didrocksscan12:29
didrockswait for results12:29
didrocksand scan result12:29
pittidoes "iw" exist?12:29
didrocksgot nothing12:29
didrocksyeah, iw exists12:29
pittisudo iw dev wlan0 scan trigger12:29
pittisudo iw dev wlan0 scan dump12:29
pittiactually, just "scan", that DTRT12:30
didrocks-> no output12:30
* didrocks reruns with just scan12:30
didrocksand yeah, still nothing12:30
pittididrocks: dmesg | grep wlan0 → any error? missing fw or so?12:30
didrocks[   48.081680] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready12:30
didrocks[  503.321831] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready12:30
didrocksthat's it12:30
didrocks(and it have the MAC address in ifconfig)12:30
pittihave you tried turning it off and on again?12:31
* pitti ducks and really runs for lunch12:31
pittino further off-hand idea, sorry :/12:31
didrockspitti: ahah, already tried!12:31
didrocksenjoy your lunch :)12:31
attentempt: hey, do you happen to have time to help us design a login interface for ubuntu one in gnome software?12:37
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attentempt: this is kind of what it looks like now: https://imgur.com/a/sl4iU13:01
attente(just need to fix the password field to be actually a password)13:03
* Sweet5hark will be away for a hour or so: doctors appointment.13:13
mptattente, here’s one I did six years ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingleSignOn/SignOnDialog13:16
mptattente, six years later I think the biggest thing I would change is saving the wireframes as PNG rather than Jpeg :-)13:18
attente:)13:18
attentempt: thanks13:18
attentempt: is there a specific ubuntu logo i should use?13:19
mptattente, probably change it to the Ubuntu One logo13:19
attenteok, i'll grab it off of the website. thanks!13:20
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seb128mdeslaur, hey, thanks for upstreaming that gnupg regression13:51
mdeslaurseb128: np, stupid bug13:55
mptattente, is there a reason you’re not using the existing ubuntu-sso-client?13:55
attentempt: dependencies on python213:56
attentewe're trying to move away from it13:56
seb128mdeslaur, did you hit the issue in another context?  or do you follow gnupg?13:57
mptattente, it is easier to implement a whole new client than to fix the dependency?13:57
mdeslaurseb128: nah, just have packages that aren't migrating because of it13:57
seb128k, same here ;-)13:57
mdeslaurseb128: same as you13:57
seb128yeah13:57
mdeslaurseb128: I'll see if upstream doesn't have a proper fix for it, alse I'll duct-tape one in in a couple of days13:58
seb128mdeslaur, oh, I meant to ask after holidays and forgot ... what's the point to update usb-creator to drop persistant storage? without that feature it doesn't do more than gnome-disks, does it?13:58
seb128mdeslaur, great, thanks13:58
mdeslaurseb128: yeah, except gnome-disks doesn't actually work, it hits the same busted udisks2 issue13:58
seb128can't we just fix udisks2?13:59
seb128then drop usb-creator13:59
mdeslaurseb128: sure, go ahead13:59
seb128lol13:59
seb128what's the issue with udisks?13:59
willcookeseb128, you walked in to that one13:59
seb128pitti is upstream for it he might be able to help us?14:00
seb128willcooke, I guess :p14:00
mdeslaurseb128: let me find the bug, one sec14:00
mdeslaurseb128: of course, the plan is to reintroduce persistence at some point14:01
mdeslaurseb128: but done another way that actually works14:01
mdeslaurseb128: and I guess gnome-disks is going to need a kde frontend to replace the usb-creator kde frontend?14:01
mdeslaurseb128: bug 146060214:02
ubot5`bug 1460602 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "Erasing disk failed: Error wiping newly created partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146060214:02
attentempt: not really sure, but yeah, that could be worth a shot14:03
seb128mdeslaur, unsure, I guess kubuntu can keep maintaining usb-creator if they want14:08
mdeslaurseb128: 5$ says as soon as you switch to writing images with gnome-disks, that feature gets removed in the new version ;)14:08
seb128lol14:09
mdeslaurespecially now that udisks is deprecated14:10
Sweet5harkre14:59
seb128Trevinho, I approved https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-control-center/unity-menu-visibilty-toggle/+merge/284307 ... feel free to do a landing for it if you want17:09
Trevinhoseb128: ok thanks17:10
seb128thank you for doing the change!17:10
seb128have a good evening everyone!17:58
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chrisccoulsonseb128, ah, seems I made a typo in a changelog. Thanks for updating bug 1538724 for me ;)19:14
ubot5`bug 1538724 in firefox (Ubuntu Wily) "GraphicsCriticalError: |[0][GFX1]: Unknown cairo format 3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153872419:14
Pithegoruswhy cant i add ppa ...i get this error singam@singam-HP-15-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/ppa19:20
PithegorusTraceback (most recent call last):19:20
Pithegorus  File "/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py", line 9, in <module>19:20
Pithegorus    import aptsources.distro19:20
PithegorusImportError: No module named aptsources.distro19:20
sarnoldtry installing python3-apt or python-apt, whichever corresponds to the python version used in /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py19:22
Pithegorushow to remove that19:24
Pithegorusllinux mint im using ubuntu mate19:24
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charleslarsu, no I haven't seen that. Can you file a crash report bug?19:52
robert_ancellwillcooke, hi19:57
willcookehi robert_ancell, sorry was on baby detail20:14
robert_ancellwillcooke, np20:14
Trevinhodoko: please next time propose a MP for debian changes such as the one you did in unity, as otherwise we need to sync trunk using the train and it's a little annoying :-)20:36
dokoTrevinho, how can I see that it is managed by the train? It doesn't have this typical version number20:37
Trevinhodoko: well, it has something like upstream+distroversion.date-0ubuntuX.Y...20:38
Trevinho doko but no problem, just that I could have missed the actual change...20:38
Trevinhodoko: you didn't change anything other than what was in debian/ right?20:39
dokosorry, missed that one. sil2100 managed the other ones20:39
dokoTrevinho, no. launchpad shows you the debdiff20:40
Trevinhodoko: yeah, thanks20:40
KillerSingamsex20:40
willcookeg'night all20:46
thumpero/ willcooke20:46
willcookehey thumper!!20:46
willcookehows it going?20:46
thumperfreakishly busy20:46
thumperyou?20:46
willcookemuch the same :)20:46
thumper:)20:47
willcookeI gotta go eat, take it easy!20:47
thumperI'm still holding out for some future all hands so I can have some fun with my old desktop peeps20:47
Trevinhohey thumper!20:50
thumpero/ Trevinho20:50
thumperTrevinho: I've been watching your trip photos20:50
thumperlooks like you have been doing some fun travelling20:50
Trevinhoeheh, yeah... I've not posted many... But yeah.. I've been in holidays in Thailand then SCaLE and FOSDEM so... All in the same month20:51
Trevinhoso, moving around the world :)20:51
thumpernice20:53

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