[06:13] <hikiko> hi
[07:01] <didrocks> good morning
[07:08] <pitti> Good morning
[07:55] <larsu> morning!
[08:02] <didrocks> hey larsu!
[08:05] <larsu> hi didrocks! How are you?
[08:05] <didrocks> I'm good, thanks! Yourself?
[08:05] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:05] <larsu> great thanks!
[08:05] <seb128> hey  didrocks larsu pitti
[08:05] <larsu> just came back from the gym
[08:05] <larsu> hi seb128 :)
[08:05] <pitti> bonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon week-end ?
[08:05] <didrocks> hey seb128 :)
[08:06] <seb128> pitti, oui, très bon ! samedi on a mangé chez des amis et joué à des jeux, et hier j'avais un match de tennis
[08:06] <seb128> pitti, et vous ? c'était bien les tambours du bronx ?
[08:06] <seb128> didrocks, lut, bien rentré ? had fun in London ?
[08:07] <hikiko> hi pitti larsu didrocks seb128
[08:07] <pitti> seb128: oui, c'était magnifique ! samedi on a visité la ville Salzburg
[08:07] <seb128> hey hikiko
[08:07] <pitti> seb128: c'est un très vieux et belle ville, et il y avait beaucoup de soleil aussi :)
[08:08] <larsu> hi hikiko and pitti!
[08:08] <seb128> pitti, super!
[08:08] <pitti> hey hikiko!
[08:08] <pitti> moin moin larsu!
[08:09] <didrocks> hey hikiko :)
[08:09] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, was busy in London. Back on Saturday, but woke up at 5 to get the first train :p
[08:09] <seb128> crazy!
[08:10] <seb128> I hope you weren't too tired/didn't get ubuflu due to that
[08:11] <didrocks> tired yeah, flu, it doesn't seem :p
[08:11] <didrocks> despite a crazy week with crazy hours
[08:12] <seb128> quiet week in Lyon this week? ;-)
[08:14] <didrocks> I hope so, there are some deliveries for this week, so, we'll see
[08:55] <willcooke> morning desktoppers
[08:56] <willcooke> urgh.  Massive inbox this morning
[08:57] <larsu> morning willcooke
[08:57] <larsu> sorry to hear. good luck!
[08:58] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:58] <willcooke> larsu, thanks
[08:58] <seb128> willcooke, spam? or did people work over the w.e?
[08:58] <willcooke> larsu, btw - could you take a look at bug #1539055
[08:58] <ubot5`> bug 1539055 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "latest update broke overlay scrollbar on terminals" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1539055
[08:58] <larsu> yep!
[08:58] <willcooke> seb128, people were working on docs over the weekend for ASM prep.
[08:59]  * willcooke ignored emails this weekend (yay)
[08:59] <willcooke> larsu, thank you!
[08:59] <seb128> I see
[09:02] <Laney> hullo
[09:02] <andyrock> morning
[09:02] <willcooke> morning Laney, andyrock
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney andyrock
[09:09] <Laney> sup
[09:09] <seb128> Laney, had a good w.e?
[09:11] <Laney> seb128: I got a peace lily and a venus fly trap
[09:11] <didrocks> hey Laney, willcooke!
[09:11] <Laney> so that is a good weekend to me
[09:11] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[09:11] <Laney> other than that it was quiet
[09:12] <Laney> can't find any flies to feed to the thing
[09:12] <Laney> and a slug was too big
[09:12] <seb128> heh
[09:12] <Laney> hi didrocks & willcooke!
[09:12] <Laney> seb128: you????
[09:13] <seb128> Laney, w.e was good, we had diner with friends on saturday and played some game and I had a tennis match yesterday (blue sky yeah! be lot of wind as well :-()
[09:13]  * seb128 hates wind
[09:13] <larsu> Laney!
[09:13] <Laney> nice
[09:13] <larsu> morning
[09:13] <Laney> it's verrrrrrrrrrrry windy now
[09:13] <Laney> storm imogen!
[09:14] <Laney> hola larsu
[09:14] <Laney> you back home?
[09:14] <larsu> yup
[09:14] <Laney> neat
[09:14] <larsu> both wheels of my bike were stolen
[09:14] <larsu> fuckers
[09:14] <Laney> UN NEAT
[09:14] <Laney> where was it
[09:14] <larsu> courtyard
[09:14] <Laney> :(
[09:15] <larsu> frame and everything's still there
[09:15] <Laney> i hope they immediately went over some broken glass
[09:15] <larsu> I just had one of the tubes replaced before I left for brussels :/
[09:15] <larsu> ah well
[09:15] <larsu> shit happens
[09:15] <larsu> otherwise I'm great!
[09:16]  * Laney needs to unsubscribe from the juju list STAT
[09:36] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:37] <willcooke> larsu @ bike - noooo. sorry to hear that
[09:47] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:47] <Laney> I'm doing good thanks
[09:47] <Laney> our friend who does painting just turned up to start re-painting some of the walls downstairs
[09:47] <Laney> \o\
[09:47] <Laney> how are you?
[09:48] <pitti> Laney: I'm great, thanks! We had a great Friday evening (Les Tambours du Bronx) and Saturday (visiting the city) in Salzburg
[09:48] <pitti> and a nice calm Sunday for a change
[09:51] <Laney> pitti: /me listens to http://www.tamboursdubronx.com/en/ --- sounds good!
[09:52] <Laney> was it a proper concert or on the street?
[09:52] <pitti> Laney: no, in some basement music club
[09:53] <pitti> https://www.rockhouse.at/
[09:54] <Trevinho> Hi folks... it seems lp:unity has been recovered :-)
[09:55]  * Laney force pushes to it again
[09:55] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[09:55] <seb128> well done :-)
[09:55] <Trevinho> seb128: it's all cjwatson merit :)
[09:55] <seb128> how did he do it?
[09:55] <Trevinho> btw hi seb128  :)
[09:55] <Trevinho> seb128: well, some bzr +ssh foo
[09:56] <Trevinho> we tried to reconcile, it didn't work, so... he had to force something.
[09:56] <alexarnaud> Good morning all !
[09:56] <seb128> hey alexarnaud
[09:58] <alexarnaud> seb128: do you have a good weekend?
[09:58] <seb128> alexarnaud, yes, quite relaxing which was nice! what about you?
[10:03] <Trevinho> didrocks: so... Can you now repropose lp:~didrocks/unity/dep-session-shorcuts with a proper branch or should I do that?
[10:05] <didrocks> Trevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity/dep-session-shorcuts/+merge/285312!
[10:12] <Trevinho> didrocks: thanks
[10:13] <didrocks> yw!
[10:22] <larsu> charles: connecting my phone makes indicator-power crash and restart all the time - is that known?
[10:22] <seb128> larsu, bt?
[10:22] <seb128> but not likely known no
[10:22] <larsu> didn't make one
[10:23] <larsu> will do when I'm back home and have the cable again
[10:23] <larsu> (this happened last night)
[10:23] <seb128> gdb is your friend!
[10:23] <seb128> k
[10:23] <larsu> I think the problem is that the iphone doesn't report charging status correctly
[10:23] <larsu> or linux doesn't read it right
[10:23] <larsu> upower always had it a 0%
[10:23] <seb128> not a reason to segfault though
[10:24] <seb128> I didn't see recent reports about that though
[10:24] <seb128> the indicator also didn't change recently
[10:24] <larsu> maybe it's not segfaulting but just flickering the icon?
[10:24] <seb128> let's see with the bt
[10:24] <seb128> could be...
[10:24]  * larsu didn't look deeply yet too be honest
[10:24] <larsu> *to
[11:53] <pitti> didrocks: I see some queued ubuntu-make tests on armhf; OOI, how are these holding up? and how about the other arches?
[11:54] <didrocks> pitti: they should have run on all archs (but couldn't check on other yet, on something else)
[11:54] <pitti> didrocks: I meant, are these reasonably robust for you now? particularly, armhf isn't the most robust thing in the world
[11:55] <didrocks> pitti: most of the tests are ignored on that archs normally (apart from unit ones), so it's a good first trial on this :)
[11:55] <pitti> didrocks: oh, that's a first? *drumroll* :-)
[11:55] <pitti> didrocks: almost there! http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#queue-xenial-armhf
[11:56] <didrocks> :)
[11:56] <pitti> didrocks: although you probably should have checked on s390x first, it's so much faster
[11:56] <didrocks> pitti: good hint for next time :)
[11:58] <pitti> or just try them both :)
[11:58] <pitti> I guess s390x isn't a prime target for u-make, though :)
[12:01] <didrocks> yeah :p
[12:03] <davmor2> pitti: really you mean user won't be installing s390x systems in their bedrooms just for the extra speed?
[12:03] <pitti> davmor2: maybe for the heating!
[12:03] <davmor2> hahaha
[12:06] <larsu> willcooke: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/fix-terminal/+merge/285331
[12:06] <larsu> willcooke: couldn't find a fix that applies to all scrollbars, so I had to add a terminal-specific rule
[12:06] <larsu> (out to lunch)
[12:06] <Laney> haha
[12:06] <willcooke> thx lars!
[12:06] <Laney> Good Fix!
[12:18] <pitti> Laney: yay, IS fixed the ppc64el DHCP b0rkage, so these pesky "timed out for ssh" should be gone now -- knocking on virtual wood!
[12:18] <Laney> pitti: yeah, just saw the mail!
[12:19] <pitti> and the queue is catching up
[12:19] <Laney> 93, not too bad
[12:19]  * pitti re-enables in britney
[12:19] <didrocks> pitti: how do I bypass a blocking systemd job at boot? (LSB: Raise nework interfaces)
[12:19] <didrocks> pitti: I tried to control+C/D
[12:20] <pitti> didrocks: boot with the rescue shell and stop it there?
[12:20] <pitti> didrocks: I assume that's on a local VM, how  did you get there even?
[12:20] <didrocks> pitti: it's with ubuntu core, trying to configure wlan0
[12:20] <pitti> wow, that's hardcoded there?
[12:20] <pitti> didrocks: mark it as "allow-hotplug" instead of "auto" perhaps?
[12:21] <didrocks> there is no network-manager
[12:21] <pitti> but hardcoding an "auto" wlan0 in /e/n/i is seriously broken
[12:21] <didrocks> pitti: that's the official doc :p
[12:21] <pitti> (both the "auto" and the "wlan0" bits..)
[12:23] <pitti> didrocks: oh, you mean you added it there? ok, *phew* :)
[12:23] <pitti> didrocks: it should time out by itself after some 3 minutes
[12:24]  * pitti had loooots of opportunity to watch that timeout on cloud instances recently
[12:24] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, it was written "no timeout", that's why I pinged you first
[12:24] <pitti> oha?
[12:24] <didrocks> but it did timeout after quite some time, indeed
[12:24] <pitti> didrocks: ah, maybe they overrode the timeout then; normally it's 5min
[12:25] <pitti> $ systemctl show -p TimeoutStartUSec  networking.service
[12:25] <pitti> TimeoutStartUSec=5min
[12:25] <didrocks> TimeoutStartUSec=0
[12:25] <pitti> you can check that on your image
[12:25] <pitti> ah, then they overrode that; check with systemctl cat?
[12:26] <didrocks> pitti: it's 15.04 ftr
[12:26]  * pitti blinks -- vivid!
[12:26] <didrocks> (it seems no override)
[12:26] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, it's the official focus/target for Ubuntu Core for now (I know…)
[12:27] <didrocks> so, this is weird…
[12:27] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, it used to be the init.d script back then, that might have been different
[12:27] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, it's a converted script
[12:27] <didrocks> I have a MAC address
[12:27] <didrocks> so the wifi card was detected
[12:27] <pitti> didrocks: RLY -- I thought that was the phone, and snappy is xenial
[12:27] <didrocks> pitti: not for what we "promote" at least and the official doc
[12:27]  * pitti sticks finger in ears, sings "lalala", and heads off to grab some lunch
[12:27] <didrocks> wpasupplicant is installed
[12:27] <didrocks> but it can't find any ssid around
[12:27] <didrocks> (I guess that's why it times out)
[12:28] <pitti> didrocks: ah, "sudo iwlist scan" -> no result?
[12:28] <pitti> I guess/hope linux-firmware is installed, but maybe it's missing something there
[12:29] <didrocks> no command :p
[12:29] <didrocks> I tried with wpa_cli
[12:29] <didrocks> scan
[12:29] <didrocks> wait for results
[12:29] <didrocks> and scan result
[12:29] <pitti> does "iw" exist?
[12:29] <didrocks> got nothing
[12:29] <didrocks> yeah, iw exists
[12:29] <pitti> sudo iw dev wlan0 scan trigger
[12:29] <pitti> sudo iw dev wlan0 scan dump
[12:30] <pitti> actually, just "scan", that DTRT
[12:30] <didrocks> -> no output
[12:30]  * didrocks reruns with just scan
[12:30] <didrocks> and yeah, still nothing
[12:30] <pitti> didrocks: dmesg | grep wlan0 → any error? missing fw or so?
[12:30] <didrocks> [   48.081680] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[12:30] <didrocks> [  503.321831] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[12:30] <didrocks> that's it
[12:30] <didrocks> (and it have the MAC address in ifconfig)
[12:31] <pitti> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:31]  * pitti ducks and really runs for lunch
[12:31] <pitti> no further off-hand idea, sorry :/
[12:31] <didrocks> pitti: ahah, already tried!
[12:31] <didrocks> enjoy your lunch :)
[12:37] <attente> mpt: hey, do you happen to have time to help us design a login interface for ubuntu one in gnome software?
[13:01] <attente> mpt: this is kind of what it looks like now: https://imgur.com/a/sl4iU
[13:03] <attente> (just need to fix the password field to be actually a password)
[13:13]  * Sweet5hark will be away for a hour or so: doctors appointment.
[13:16] <mpt> attente, here’s one I did six years ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingleSignOn/SignOnDialog
[13:18] <mpt> attente, six years later I think the biggest thing I would change is saving the wireframes as PNG rather than Jpeg :-)
[13:18] <attente> :)
[13:18] <attente> mpt: thanks
[13:19] <attente> mpt: is there a specific ubuntu logo i should use?
[13:19] <mpt> attente, probably change it to the Ubuntu One logo
[13:20] <attente> ok, i'll grab it off of the website. thanks!
[13:51] <seb128> mdeslaur, hey, thanks for upstreaming that gnupg regression
[13:55] <mdeslaur> seb128: np, stupid bug
[13:55] <mpt> attente, is there a reason you’re not using the existing ubuntu-sso-client?
[13:56] <attente> mpt: dependencies on python2
[13:56] <attente> we're trying to move away from it
[13:57] <seb128> mdeslaur, did you hit the issue in another context?  or do you follow gnupg?
[13:57] <mpt> attente, it is easier to implement a whole new client than to fix the dependency?
[13:57] <mdeslaur> seb128: nah, just have packages that aren't migrating because of it
[13:57] <seb128> k, same here ;-)
[13:57] <mdeslaur> seb128: same as you
[13:57] <seb128> yeah
[13:58] <mdeslaur> seb128: I'll see if upstream doesn't have a proper fix for it, alse I'll duct-tape one in in a couple of days
[13:58] <seb128> mdeslaur, oh, I meant to ask after holidays and forgot ... what's the point to update usb-creator to drop persistant storage? without that feature it doesn't do more than gnome-disks, does it?
[13:58] <seb128> mdeslaur, great, thanks
[13:58] <mdeslaur> seb128: yeah, except gnome-disks doesn't actually work, it hits the same busted udisks2 issue
[13:59] <seb128> can't we just fix udisks2?
[13:59] <seb128> then drop usb-creator
[13:59] <mdeslaur> seb128: sure, go ahead
[13:59] <seb128> lol
[13:59] <seb128> what's the issue with udisks?
[13:59] <willcooke> seb128, you walked in to that one
[14:00] <seb128> pitti is upstream for it he might be able to help us?
[14:00] <seb128> willcooke, I guess :p
[14:00] <mdeslaur> seb128: let me find the bug, one sec
[14:01] <mdeslaur> seb128: of course, the plan is to reintroduce persistence at some point
[14:01] <mdeslaur> seb128: but done another way that actually works
[14:01] <mdeslaur> seb128: and I guess gnome-disks is going to need a kde frontend to replace the usb-creator kde frontend?
[14:02] <mdeslaur> seb128: bug 1460602
[14:02] <ubot5`> bug 1460602 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "Erasing disk failed: Error wiping newly created partition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1460602
[14:03] <attente> mpt: not really sure, but yeah, that could be worth a shot
[14:08] <seb128> mdeslaur, unsure, I guess kubuntu can keep maintaining usb-creator if they want
[14:08] <mdeslaur> seb128: 5$ says as soon as you switch to writing images with gnome-disks, that feature gets removed in the new version ;)
[14:09] <seb128> lol
[14:10] <mdeslaur> especially now that udisks is deprecated
[14:59] <Sweet5hark> re
[17:09] <seb128> Trevinho, I approved https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-control-center/unity-menu-visibilty-toggle/+merge/284307 ... feel free to do a landing for it if you want
[17:10] <Trevinho> seb128: ok thanks
[17:10] <seb128> thank you for doing the change!
[17:58] <seb128> have a good evening everyone!
[19:14] <chrisccoulson> seb128, ah, seems I made a typo in a changelog. Thanks for updating bug 1538724 for me ;)
[19:14] <ubot5`> bug 1538724 in firefox (Ubuntu Wily) "GraphicsCriticalError: |[0][GFX1]: Unknown cairo format 3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538724
[19:20] <Pithegorus> why cant i add ppa ...i get this error singam@singam-HP-15-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/ppa
[19:20] <Pithegorus> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:20] <Pithegorus>   File "/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py", line 9, in <module>
[19:20] <Pithegorus>     import aptsources.distro
[19:20] <Pithegorus> ImportError: No module named aptsources.distro
[19:22] <sarnold> try installing python3-apt or python-apt, whichever corresponds to the python version used in /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintSources/mintSources.py
[19:24] <Pithegorus> how to remove that
[19:24] <Pithegorus> llinux mint im using ubuntu mate
[19:52] <charles> larsu, no I haven't seen that. Can you file a crash report bug?
[19:57] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hi
[20:14] <willcooke> hi robert_ancell, sorry was on baby detail
[20:14] <robert_ancell> willcooke, np
[20:36] <Trevinho> doko: please next time propose a MP for debian changes such as the one you did in unity, as otherwise we need to sync trunk using the train and it's a little annoying :-)
[20:37] <doko> Trevinho, how can I see that it is managed by the train? It doesn't have this typical version number
[20:38] <Trevinho> doko: well, it has something like upstream+distroversion.date-0ubuntuX.Y...
[20:38] <Trevinho>  doko but no problem, just that I could have missed the actual change...
[20:39] <Trevinho> doko: you didn't change anything other than what was in debian/ right?
[20:39] <doko> sorry, missed that one. sil2100 managed the other ones
[20:40] <doko> Trevinho, no. launchpad shows you the debdiff
[20:40] <Trevinho> doko: yeah, thanks
[20:40] <KillerSingam> sex
[20:46] <willcooke> g'night all
[20:46] <thumper> o/ willcooke
[20:46] <willcooke> hey thumper!!
[20:46] <willcooke> hows it going?
[20:46] <thumper> freakishly busy
[20:46] <thumper> you?
[20:46] <willcooke> much the same :)
[20:47] <thumper> :)
[20:47] <willcooke> I gotta go eat, take it easy!
[20:47] <thumper> I'm still holding out for some future all hands so I can have some fun with my old desktop peeps
[20:50] <Trevinho> hey thumper!
[20:50] <thumper> o/ Trevinho
[20:50] <thumper> Trevinho: I've been watching your trip photos
[20:50] <thumper> looks like you have been doing some fun travelling
[20:51] <Trevinho> eheh, yeah... I've not posted many... But yeah.. I've been in holidays in Thailand then SCaLE and FOSDEM so... All in the same month
[20:51] <Trevinho> so, moving around the world :)
[20:53] <thumper> nice