=== curtness is now known as strahtw [01:51] Didn't see a response so I'm asking again, I'm noticing a lot of curl 404's when running my initial phablet-dev-bootstrap, is that safe to ignore? === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix [08:26] hey sil2100 [08:26] sil2100: would this be interesting to add to topic mate? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet [08:32] lotuspsychje: hey! [08:32] Oh, indeed, let's see if it fits the topic still thouugh, we've got quite a lot there already [08:33] hehe === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet | OTA-9 released! [08:33] great tnx sil2100 [08:34] There, the changelogs I guess were no longer maintained [08:34] looks pretty shine tablet page [08:34] lotuspsychje: thanks for reminding o/ [08:34] no problem, ubuntu twitter page all over the news with the new tablet :p [08:34] sil2100: https://twitter.com/ubuntu [08:35] pretty sure BQ gonna get sold out on this one again [09:11] <_Sponge> Morn, Morni .... Good Morning ! [09:53] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Chinese New Year! 😃 [09:55] <_Sponge> JamesTait: What is the animal this year ? [09:56] Year of the Monkey, a Yang year. [09:57] <_Sponge> JamesTait: Oh Ok , I think it was on the radio. Monkeys are smarties. [09:58] They come in tubes? [09:58] http://www.nestle.co.uk/brands/chocolate_and_confectionery/chocolate/smarties [09:59] So that’s what with those monkeys on all chinese calendars and stuffs === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:28] * _Sponge isn't sure why the word 'convergence' isn't being pushed more at Canonical. [10:40] morning, is there a more up-to-date version of the spreadsheet linked from here?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/Nexus [10:40] giving status/functionality of Touch on Nexus devices [10:46] Do you have any link that explains how to set up adb with ubuntu-touch? I can’t seem to find a clear explanation. [11:07] MCMic: what are you trying to do exactly [11:08] make adb shell work [11:09] MCMic: you trying install ubuntu touch somewhere? [11:14] lotuspsychje: no I got it on my bq aquaris 4.5 [11:33] Yay, managed to sync contacts with owncloud. (had to type all commands on the phone because adb shell was not working. Ubuntu touch really need some alternative keyboards…) [11:59] john-mcaleely, hi, could you please comment in bug 1466021 answering the question about how to detect a writable image? [11:59] bug 1466021 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "System settings version information lacks indication of writeable image" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466021 [12:03] mpt done [12:04] thanks === Isla_de_Muerte is now known as NwS [14:31] kenvandine, hey, what's the rationnal for fixing the width of the win in desktop mode? what if I want to resize it to test something or because some labels are ellipsized and I want to see them? [14:38] seb128, request from design [14:38] kenvandine, why do they care? [14:38] default size makes sense [14:38] seb128, it was on the convergence hit list [14:38] but why forcing it? [14:39] seb128, i think because our design isn't optimized for wide views [14:39] not all apps will have a wide view [14:39] right [14:40] but what I prefer to have a 60gu width win on my desktop to see more content? [14:40] kenvandine, who in design should I talk to/decided that? [14:40] JohnLeah and ben [14:41] thanks === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === yorick__ is now known as yorick === barry` is now known as barry_ === barry_ is now known as barry [14:53] Guys, do you have /proc/last_kmsg on your Android or Ubuntu? [14:54] yes [14:54] I nave no. [14:54] it is enabled by default in the kernel (usually) [14:54] Is it config flag? [14:54] yeah [14:54] What is it? [14:56] i dont remember exactly ... something about android ram console [14:56] I built the kernel, but have no last_kmsg. Without it I can't resolve my bootloop. [14:57] All CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_* flags are enable. [14:58] well, then you shoudl have /proc/last_kmsg ... though note that it will only be there if you didnt power off the device between the two boots [14:59] Lol, this is my main trouble: I can't switch to recovery without powering off. xD [14:59] well, as the name says ... the ram console lives in ram :) no power no logging ... [15:00] By the way, when I boot recovery, can I see last_kmsg of recovery? [15:01] of the last boot ... whatever that was [15:02] hey guys, I'm not able to create armhf chroots anymore :( Any suggestion? [15:02] Here all the details on the error: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg18173.html [15:05] zbenjamin: ^ [15:05] i know we are looking into it .... [15:05] ok [15:05] \o/ [15:05] I had this in docker last week, thought it was docker, glad it's not 😃 [15:06] you can use static chroots though; apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-api-15.04-armhf [15:06] zbenjamin, thanks :) [15:07] zbenjamin: can you still do a "maint" on those and add packages? [15:07] * rpadovani is quite outdated with all these new sdk things [15:08] popey: in theory yes, but everytime that package is upgraded your packages are essentially gone... [15:08] oh :( [15:08] oh [15:08] me too :) [15:08] By the way, rootstock-ng from launchpad is differs from github. Is it right? [15:09] Is this new way the official way for the future? [15:09] well, better than nothing - at least I can do some packages [15:09] I mean, I have a stack of apps which have pre-requisites to build in a chroot [15:18] CheeryLee, given that i'm the author of rootstock(-ng) and i hate git ... not sure what the rootstock on github is [15:20] Err... Is ogra1 -- you? [15:20] There is only one ogra [15:21] CheeryLee, yep [15:22] (i need it to recieve commit messages for snappy ... but dont do anything else with it) [15:22] the ogra [15:22] This is strange. Github's rootstock is bit differs. [15:22] well, the original rootstock is dead since years ... [15:23] (as is -ng) [15:23] (simply because i dont have time for it) [15:23] perhaps the github one is newer, better or has new hacks, you have to compare the code i fear [15:24] It's good. [15:24] Thanks for answer. [15:24] also checking github there seem to be multiple branches [15:24] (you surely dont want robert nelsons one ... thats not for phones) [15:26] I see ubuntu-touchCAF [15:26] yeah, no idea what that is [15:28] Crap, I completely don't understand, why I don't have last_kmsg. [15:29] In Android too. [15:32] So, it comes when my device is already booted or crashed? [15:53] dholbach, hey, re: bug #1543133, are you getting any crashes by any chance? what's your GPU? [15:53] bug 1543133 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Desktop: Black screen after logging into unity8 session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543133 [15:54] mariogrip: https://devices.ubports.com/#/ isn't listing any devices [15:55] mhall119: It is listing for me, could you capture the javascript error (if there are any?) [15:56] Saviq, Intel (i915) in an x220 - no crashes [15:56] mariogrip: odd, sometimes it shows, and sometimes it doesn't [15:56] huh, i find the percentage complete on that page to be a bit odd [15:57] mhall119: oh, i'll add that to my "way to long" fix/repair todo list :) [15:58] btw, what browser are u using? [15:58] dholbach, can you clear /var/log/lightdm/*, ~/.cache/upstart/*, try again and post the contents to the bug? [15:58] firefox atm [15:58] I haven't seen any issue with chrome [15:58] ok, will do some test with firefix [15:58] Saviq, sure [15:59] dholbach, even more, if you could "gdb -program `pidof unity8`" when it's stuck and paste the output of "info threads" and "thread apply all bt" [15:59] mhall119: Thanks for reporting :) [15:59] mariogrip: ah ha, so when I first click the Devices link at the top it takes me to the page with a trailing / and it loads fine, but if I click it again from that page, it doesn't have the trailing / and it doesn't load [15:59] dholbach, if unity8's not running, you might want to try the same for unity-system-compositor [15:59] Saviq, the problem is - I can't even get into the console [15:59] Saviq, magic sysrq is all I can do [16:00] dholbach, what's "magic sysrq"? ;) [16:00] alt-print- [16:00] tedg, how's the app-object branch going? (did voss ever make progress there?) [16:00] Saviq, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [16:00] dholbach, no idea what that does, but I assume, then you can't ctrl+alt+f? [16:00] mterry: No, I think I'm going to drop the signals and respin it without those so it can land. [16:00] mhall119: oh, I managed to recreate it, seems like it might be an issue with angular-router [16:00] mterry: Then we can put the signals in another MR. [16:00] Saviq, I tell the kernel to sync, unmount and reboot [16:01] mterry: That's on my TODO for today actually :-) [16:01] dholbach, ok, that sounds like a mir lockup then [16:01] mhall119: I'll try to update angular-router [16:01] Saviq, I'll try with the directories cleared, as you said - see you in a bit :) [16:01] tedg, cool [16:01] mterry: Like to get the bulk of it landed. The signals are smaller. [16:01] dholbach, wait! [16:01] tedg, I still care about the signals bits (for the warn-on-xapp feature) but good to separate and make progress [16:02] Yup [16:02] mariogrip: not a big deal, I'd rather have Unity loading that the devices page :) [16:02] dholbach, bregma just commented, can you check re: bug #1526658, what versions of of mir-client-platform-mesa you have installed? [16:02] bug 1526658 in mir (Ubuntu) "Mir clients (including Unity8 itself) crash in XGetXCBConnection() if multiple versions of mir-client-platform-mesa are installed." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526658 [16:02] Saviq, I'm on most recent xenial [16:03] Saviq, 0.19.1+16.04.20160204-0ubuntu1 [16:04] Saviq, brb [16:10] mhall119: Well, I think i fixed it now [16:10] :) [16:10] webpage also [16:11] Saviq, this time I didn't get the black screen, but lightdm just popped up again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14993956/ [16:27] * ogra_ wonders where dholbach did get that i915 based phone :P [16:47] tedg, mterry I can have a look tonight [16:47] tedg, mterry my apologies for letting the ball drop, my plate is somewhat full at the moment [16:47] tvoss, no worries [16:50] Cool, thanks tvoss [17:57] Saviq: ping, mariogrip needs some help with Unity8 on the Fairphone [17:57] mariogrip: can you provide context and pastebins? [17:58] Saviq: Mir seems to be working fine, and he can get the boot splash screen to display,but it failed to load Unity8 [17:58] hey all, I am getting a low disk space warning on my device, I can't figure how to clean out disk space... says I have 12 gigs in /userdata.... how do I clear out unused space... I have maybe a gig of data on there when I browse the files from my desktop [17:58] It fails to start unity8-dash [17:59] Unity8-dash QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display [17:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/14994417/ [17:59] besneatte: I run this every once in a while, it clears the webapp container's cached data: find .local/share/ -name Cache |xargs -I{} rm -r "{}" [17:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/14994692/ [18:00] do i run that from terminal on the phone? do I need to enable disk write first? [18:00] besneatte: but htat doesn't touch /userdata/ [18:01] besneatte: yes from the phone, no on writable disk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:04] mhall119 thanks... command ran but didn't free up any disk space... what kind of stuff is stored in /userdata? [18:04] could it be maps from unav taking uip that space? or some other application data? [18:06] mhall119: abeato I found the issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14994960/ [18:07] mariogrip, nice, now you have something where to start :) [18:07] :) [18:09] besneatte: you can creep through the directory tree of /userdata/ , running "du -sh ." as you go, picking the largest directory and repeating until you find the biggest lump of data [18:10] besneatte: or you can remove everything in ~/.cache, which usually achieves the goal ;) [18:11] mhall119: I rand that command, and it didn't really help.... I have 10gigs in userdata and don't know why... I will use du and let you know the results.... [18:11] mhall119: it loosk like i have to do it as super user... is that normal? [18:12] no [18:12] not in your home dir [18:13] (which i assume mhall119 was referring to) [18:16] mhall119: it's all in system-data/var .... isn't that where temp files and such will be stored? [18:17] besneatte, don't put too much trust in the 10gg number, there is a calculation bug in settings [18:17] besneatte, no, thats the readonly part of the system [18:17] besneatte, if the disk is not used by your media files its likely hidden in our apps [18:17] nothing should get written there [18:17] you [18:17] r [18:18] oh, wait, ignore me :P [18:18] system-data/ is indeed the rw side [18:18] pmcgowan: the figure I get from du -h /userdata/sysrtem-data/var [18:19] mhall119: it works! [18:19] Unity loads? [18:19] juo [18:19] p [18:19] \o/ [18:20] it was a permission issue [18:20] I am starting to think some app has chached an enourmous amount of data... the only culprate I can think of doing something like that is unav... should I try uninstalling apps at this piont/ [18:20] that will not delete their data [18:20] which is another debate :( [18:21] looking closer..... it's all log files in system/var/log [18:21] besneatte: don't worry too much about /userdata/ [18:21] is there a command to clear out the log? [18:21] besneatte: run du -sh /home/phablet/* [18:21] can I just delete what's in there [18:21] that'll give you a better indication of what's using your space [18:21] besneatte, you can especially anything archived as a gz [18:21] sweeet! [18:22] one sec... this might solve it [18:22] mariogrip: can I flash it to my device? [18:22] yeah sure [18:22] letme upload the images [18:24] my upload speed isn't the fastest... [18:24] 15 min ish [18:24] mariogrip: no worries, just let me know the commands once it's there [18:25] the file /userdata/system-data/var/log/syslog is 5.7 gigs [18:25] what would happen if I deleted it? [18:25] mhall119: do you have the default recovery? [18:25] yeah, do I need a different one? [18:26] yeah, we need recovery with adb to flash, [18:27] I have one that i builded [18:28] the "update from ADB" doesn't work? [18:29] pmcgowan: I cleared out the 5.7 gig syslog with this command ( as super user ): > /userdata/system-data/var/log/syslog [18:29] mhall119: what do you mean? [18:29] besneatte, wow why was it so big [18:29] I now have lots of free space.... seems like this log should not just fill up like that... is there some setting to disable such intensive logging? [18:30] pcmgowan: NO idea.... weird right? [18:30] besneatte, it should roll when it hits a limit like 20MB or some such [18:30] besneatte, thats weird, we have a logrotate job that flushes syslog when it goes over 40Mb or so [18:30] yeah that [18:30] maybe I have some weird dev option set or something? [18:30] besneatte, did you make your system writable or tinker with it in any way ? [18:30] nope [18:30] no, there is no dev option [18:30] mariogrip: there was an option in the default recovery for "apply update from ADB" which makes it identify with 'adb devices' [18:31] even the devs have to live with that small amount of syslog ;) [18:31] unless you change the configs [18:31] (unless they make the system writable and delete the logrotate config that flushes it) [18:31] mhall119: I guess thats adbsideload, but you can test [18:31] to adb devices [18:31] heh, *snap* [18:31] really weird then... I will keep an eye on things and see if that file gets over 40mb [18:31] yeah, it is [18:31] do* [18:32] mhall119: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/FP2-boot-recovery.tar.xz [18:32] fyi, I am running the stable release on a nexus 4... if that makes any difference [18:32] there is recovery and boot [18:32] adb reboot bootloader [18:32] sudo fastboot flash boot boot.img [18:32] sudo fastboot flash recovery recovery.img [18:33] sudo fastboot reboot (while you hold power-up) [18:36] besneatte, may want to double check your logrotate config [18:36] ogra_, how can I check to make sure logrotate exists and is correct? [18:36] heh [18:36] lool [18:36] pmcgowan, do you know how I can do that? [18:36] there is a touch snippet in /etc/logrotate.d [18:37] check if thats there [18:38] yeah its 20M [18:38] logrotate itself runs from /etc/cron.daily/logrotate [18:38] mariogrip: it's taking a very long time after that reboot command [18:39] did you hold powerup? [18:39] the script is in there... set to rotate every 20M [18:39] yeah [18:39] sorry, volup [18:39] then do volup+power [18:39] besneatte, then it could be a bug in cron or it could be a permission issue ... who owns /var/log/syslog ? [18:40] hold that until it virbrates [18:40] ah, there we go, I see Cyanogen Recovery [18:40] ogra_, I think he just deleted it [18:41] oh, right [18:41] damn [18:41] mhall119: it's soon done uploading [18:42] ogra_: pmcgowan: fwiw, /var/log/ubuntu-location-service is at 97MB on my mako [18:42] checking the cronjob it sure seems like everything is all set up right.... I guess for now I will just watch that file and see if it grows over 20M [18:43] mhall119, thats not specifically guarded though [18:43] mhall119, yeah we have a bug on that [18:43] mhall119: do you have the rootstock installer? [18:43] mhall119, it should rotate normally (like on your desktop) [18:43] mariogrip: rootstock installer? never heard of that [18:43] but yeah, i remember it has 100s of small files inside [18:43] ogra_: ack, I thought maybe the 20MB limit applied there too [18:43] syslog is indeed only 14MB [18:44] mhall119, well, the location thing is a subdir, isnt it ? [18:44] and the single files in there are rather small ... but many [18:44] ogra_: ah, so it is [18:44] the prob is that you get 100 files even between two logrotate runs [18:45] so thats not as easy to handle as a single file [18:45] * ogra_ blames tvoss for being overly chatty [18:45] #blametvoss [18:47] how long on average should it take the syslog to hit 20M? a week? [18:47] hopefully even longer [18:47] but i'm not sure anyone checks it regulary for charry stuff nowadays [18:47] (we used to ) [18:47] *catty [18:47] bah [18:47] *chatty [18:47] mhall119: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/rootstock [18:48] unless you're doing something that constantly logs apparmor denials or such, you'll probably never hit a 20M syslog [18:48] interesting, OK, and the permissions are rw|r|none [18:48] si that correct [18:48] besneatte, the user is more interesting [18:48] it needs to be owned by a certain uer and group [18:48] *user [18:48] (and indeed, the permissions are important too ) [18:49] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -l /var/log/syslog [18:49] -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 20631240 Feb 8 19:49 /var/log/syslog [18:49] mariogrip: ok, grabbed it [18:49] (seems i'm close to rotation here) [18:50] thats what I have [18:50] :/ [18:50] well, watch it ... see if it grows again [18:50] (beyond the 20M) [18:51] phone has gone skynet and is a log hoarder... we are all doomed [18:51] then file a bug ... [18:51] yeah [18:51] cool, will do, thanks for all the help, you all saved me hours :) [18:52] mhall119: you need this [18:52] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz [18:54] mariogrip: downloading (slowly) [18:54] hi [18:54] mhall119: I made a some changes to the rootstock use this insted, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/rootstock.tar.xz [18:55] the configs folder need to be in the same folder as the script [18:55] that just so we get adb at boot [18:56] and here is system.img https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/system.img.tar.xz [18:57] mhall119: there is one problem, the power button to turn on screen does not work.... [18:57] so, don't let it turn off then, right? :) [18:57] jup :) [18:58] I guess you can use a command to force the screen on [19:00] heh ... rootstock ... the code that doesnt want to die :P [19:01] ogra_: I have fallen in love with ur code :) [19:02] i tried to follow the porting guide a little yesterday, but make just failed for the stock mako/hammerhead [19:02] mariogrip: is all of this going to be needed for everybody who wants to flash their fairphone, or will it eventually just work with ubuntu-device-flash? [19:03] mariogrip, want to take it over ? it is actually unmaintained since two years oer so [19:03] mariogrip: ok, I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14995584/ [19:03] ogra_: surely you've been around long enough to know that "taking it over" is not something one ever "wants" to do ;) [19:04] mhall119: I will setup the device on the system server, then udf will work [19:04] ogra_: yeah, sure [19:04] it's something that just sort of happens becuase one has to do so [19:04] dobey, well, love where love is due :) [19:04] mhall119: looks good [19:04] then adb shell [19:04] mount /data [19:04] mount /cache [19:04] exit [19:04] ogra_: eh, i get no love :P [19:05] ./rootstock vivid... system.img [19:07] mariogrip, there you go ... (see your email) [19:08] ogra_: :) [19:11] mariogrip: I see a boot splash! :) [19:11] now you need to open adb [19:11] and keep press on the screen don't let it sleep [19:12] stop lightdm [19:12] chmod 777 /dev/* [19:12] start lightdm [19:12] wow [19:12] chmod 777 /dev/* [19:12] thats gross [19:12] :) [19:12] :) [19:12] start: Job is already running: lightdm [19:12] restart maybe [19:12] ? [19:12] stop then chmod then start [19:13] screen went blank when I did that [19:13] yeah, that's normal [19:14] when you stop lightdm [19:14] lightdm start/running, process 5952 [19:14] did you chmod? [19:14] yeah, and restarted, but still blank screen [19:15] then it has gone to sleep :P [19:15] restart and try again (faster) [19:16] if not, I can fix it and send you a new system.img [19:16] trying again [19:17] mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~/Downloads/phablet-flash/fairphone$ adb shell "stop lightdm; chmod 777 /dev/*; start lightdm" [19:18] lightdm stop/waiting [19:18] chmod: changing permissions of '/dev/fd': Operation not permitted [19:18] lightdm start/running, process 2053 [19:18] still stays blank [19:18] it need a litte while to start [19:19] ogra_: is there a cli command for turning the screen back ok? [19:20] mhall119: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/need-for-speed [19:20] i think there are some mir tools [19:20] ask the mir team :) [19:21] mhall119: start that at boot, that will do that for you [19:21] hmm [19:21] "chmod 777 /dev/*" seems bad to me, but eh [19:21] dobey, nah, he should just put that into an upstart job and watch jdstrand cry i guess :P [19:22] ogra_: well, i mean bad in the sense that /dev isn't a single-level directory [19:22] yeah, you might want -R [19:23] aside from the fact that 777 by itself is bad :) [19:23] dobey: nah, 666 is evil, 777 is heavenly :) [19:23] :) [19:24] meh, a little 777 cant hurt anyone :P [19:25] 777 is only good if you're in vegas [19:26] xP [19:26] mhall119: did that work? [19:26] nope, got it stuck at the fairphone boot splash [19:26] manually running start lightdm now, and it's got the ubuntu splash [19:27] good, keep pressing the screen [19:27] success! [19:27] :D [19:27] now never shut it down again ! [19:28] heh [19:28] yeah xP [19:28] dobey: 3 7's is a crappy hand you want a royal flush to win in vegas :P [19:28] oh, i see what's wrong with my script, chmod "fails" so start ligthdm does't run [19:29] some mir/unity8 weirdness going on [19:29] davmor2: you should maybe stop trying to shove playing cards into the slot machines [19:29]