[00:00] <pleia2> desertwolf: you should be able to look in /var/log/kern.log to see what iptables (underlying mechanism for ufw) is blocking
[00:00] <erick_> I only want to get my picture right. I am learning that is all.
[00:00] <desertwolf> Cool thank you pleia2 I'll try that ^_^
[00:01] <pleia2> desertwolf: you'll see lines like kernel: ... IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=24..., and then a section with "SPT=5666 DPT=58397"
[00:01] <pleia2> desertwolf: those are source and destination ports
[00:02] <pleia2> so by looking at those, you can likely figure out what it's bumping into
[00:05] <erick_> Thank you.
[00:22] <desertwolf> Thank you pleia2 :) I found the pesky port I needed
[00:23] <pleia2> desertwolf: yay! which was it?
[00:24] <desertwolf> it was upd 5353 and tcp 9100
[00:29] <desertwolf> I always hate trying to find out what ports to open for outgoing connections most of the time I can find it through Google but this one I couldn't
[02:17] <Guillaume2> nice
[02:17] <Guillaume2> hello
[02:18] <Guillaume2> i want to know if there something i can install on my laptop to be able to boot on a linux live cd if the usb boot is not supported by the bios ?
[02:18] <Guillaume2> yeah liveusb i mean
[02:23] <Unit193> Guillaume2: 1. You may be able to upgrade the BIOS.  2. http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[02:23] <Guillaume2> no the bios is already upgraded.
[02:23] <Guillaume2> it's a old acer aspire 5315
[02:24] <Guillaume2> when using window i was able to install something trough wubi that hallowed my usb to boot ubuntu even
[02:24] <Guillaume2> so i was wondering if i can install something just for that but that will work without windows caus i don't have this crap anymore
[02:25] <Unit193> !wubi
[02:25] <Unit193> With the instructions in the page I linked, you burn something to CD that chainloads USB.
[02:25] <Guillaume2> yeah that will do the job
[02:26] <Guillaume2> thanks i go buy a cd tommorow and try that
[02:27] <Unit193> Ouch, fun timesw..  Don't have a CD or something laying around?
[02:27] <Guillaume2> nope
[02:27] <Guillaume2> not a big deal i am patient
[02:28] <Guillaume2> it's late here
[02:28] <Guillaume2> everything closed
[10:40] <novanauliazami> can i used wily repo in my trusty?
[12:06] <nikitasius> helloworld!
[12:07] <nikitasius> helloworld! just a question: xubuntu - it's same ubuntu but with xfce?
[12:08] <daniel_> @nikitasius it's essentially that, yes, but is also so much more :)
[12:09] <nikitasius> daniel_ great. And if i need to run some windows's stuff under, wine better work under ubuntu that under debian? before i had lot of problems with wine under debian.
[12:10] <knome> i wouldn't expect that much.
[12:11] <daniel_> You might find that any Ubuntu-based distribution might be more user-friendly than Debian, particularly for those getting used to working in linux/unix environment. However, Wine is a work in progress and certainly has its limitations
[12:11] <nikitasius> knome maybe i never seen good guide "wine under debian". I use debian mostly as console variant and ubuntu as desktop on my laptop. But on new laptop i'd like to install xubuntu, because as i've seen, xfce looks like my gnome classic.
[12:12] <knome> daniel_, also, problems might be related to specific software being ran with wine, so without specific information, there's no way to say that another distro is better with wine...
[12:12] <knome> (and tbh, i don't think there are that many differences)
[12:13] <daniel_> One of the strongest thing that ubuntu distributions has going for it is that we get to benefit from our own little distro communities, and the support from the greater Ubuntu community as a whole. Therefore, you'll probably find more support.
[12:13] <nikitasius> knome latest and actual wine runs under ubuntu. Under debian i've not succeed to launch it (but it was long time ago)
[12:13] <knome> daniel_, true, but that still doesn't mean that another distro is better with some software :)
[12:14] <knome> i'm just trying to keep expectations to a certain realistic limit
[12:14] <equinox_> \join
[12:15] <daniel_> @knome completely agree with you. It basically comes down to the level of support offered
[12:15] <knome> debian jessie (stable) and ubuntu 15.10 actually have pretty much the same version in repositories
[12:17] <daniel_> @nikitasius, basically knome is correct. Don't expect miracles from Wine by changing distros
[12:18] <nikitasius> daniel_ ok. I need wine just for photoshop. as i have old version which probably will work.
[12:21] <nikitasius> daniel_, knome so i think i'll install debian 8.3.  I never had problems with debian and their updated on servers. But on my old laptop ubuntu 12 -> 14 failed.
[12:22] <nikitasius> if wine will start as i hope - i'll keep debian. Or.. it will be xubuntu. Thank you for your advices!
[12:23] <dnlgry> We might be biased but give Xubuntu a go. You might love it :) Good luck nikitasius.
[12:23] <nikitasius> dnlgry ok. so i'll try xubuntu :)  because 3xDVD of debian will be downloaded not soon.
[12:24] <dnlgry> (I was daniel_ as well, sorry - just testing out something in BitchX client)
[12:24] <nikitasius> anyway it's all debian based. Im only afraid of intertal utilities from ubuntu and it will be boring to search all of them and turn off.
[12:25] <nikitasius> and i've seen news about statistics to canonical.
[12:25] <nikitasius> when system send it.
[12:25] <nikitasius> it was fixed?
[12:25] <dnlgry> You will find Xubuntu is a pretty clean distro without being too bare-bones.
[12:27] <dnlgry> That was back last year and was actually part of the Unity desktop, which is not included in Xubuntu
[12:27] <dnlgry> So yes. a) it was never in Xubuntu and b) it was fixed :)
[12:28] <dnlgry> OK Nikitasius we should probably stop talking about this now as this is a support forum - or move the conversation to #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:30] <nikitasius> dnlgry i'll join it, thanks!
[12:31] <dnlgry> Enjoy Xubuntu!
[12:31] <nikitasius> dnlgry but the question about xubuntu: there is no more statistics to canonical and amazon ads?
[12:34] <novanauliazami_> what's packages in /usr/lib with extention so.0 ? there accdly deleted.
[12:50] <novanauliazami_> i accidently deleted file *.so.0 in /usr/lib/ . how do i fix it?
[13:02] <Walliski> Well it depends on which packages you have installed :/
[13:05] <Walliski> Not sure if this is a good idea, but you might try to reinstall all packages that you have on your computer :S ?
[13:06] <novanauliazami_> huft..
[13:07] <Walliski> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/162425/force-download-reinstall-of-all-deb-packages Maybe something like this
[13:07] <Walliski> But there might be a smarter way to do it
[13:07] <Walliski> You can somehow list files from packages you have installed
[13:07] <Walliski> maybe you can grep out the packages that contains matching filenames
[13:07] <Walliski> and fix those
[13:12] <Walliski> Aaah
[13:13] <Walliski> dpkg -S /usr/lib/*.so.0
[13:13] <Walliski> shows which packages should have files there
[13:37] <knome> Walliski, if you aren't sure, it often isn't a good idea to try to guess
[13:37] <Walliski> :X
[13:37] <Walliski> True indeed
[13:38] <Walliski> Was hoping someone else would chip in and say if it is a completly horrible idea :P
[13:38] <knome> if somebody could monitor the channel whole time, they probably could just answer all questions too :P
[13:39] <Walliski> Then again it is difficult to know how much people knows about stuff :S
[13:39] <Walliski> The ones that ask for help that is
[13:39] <knome> that's why people who help need self-moderation (to know when they aren't knowledgeable to help) and people who ask for help some source criticism
[13:40] <Walliski> Which is why I started with "not sure if this is a good idea", so that he knows if he is to try it or not...
[13:41] <knome> from my experience, people have the latter much less; eg. they type almost anything you say into a terminal or whatever in a search for a quick, one-liner fix
[13:41] <Walliski> Since he soimehow managed to remove files with a wildcard he is probably poking around stuff anyways more than a normal user might. But yes, point taken
[13:41] <knome> again, people are able to do "wonderful" things and when asked what they did, respond "nothing"...
[23:31] <xubuntu859> hello?
[23:31] <knome> hello.
[23:31] <xubuntu859> hi
[23:31] <xubuntu859> what is this?
[23:32] <xubuntu859> its like the old school dos chats
[23:32] <xubuntu859> lol
[23:32] <xubuntu859> knomeknome?
[23:33] <xubuntu859> help
[23:33] <knome> xubuntu859, patience please
[23:34] <knome> if you have a support question, simply ask it and people will likely reply if the know the answer
[23:36] <xubuntu859> its my 2nd time on this computer i download fox fire   goooglechrome ect and cant run it or somthing
[23:36] <knome> where are you downloading it?
[23:36] <xubuntu859> i click on it and nothing launches it goes to the files
[23:37] <xubuntu859> microsoft
[23:37] <knome> xubuntu isn't windows
[23:37] <xubuntu859> its from microsoft but i am using out of date foxfire
[23:38] <knome> ok, let's start from the beginning
[23:38] <knome> which xubuntu version are you using?
[23:38] <xubuntu859> i wish it was or i just wish i knew how to use linux
[23:38] <xangua> Fox fire?
[23:38] <xubuntu859> the help is no help..haha
[23:39] <xubuntu859> mozzzilla firefox
[23:39] <knome> xubuntu859, you aren't answering my question so i'm unable to help
[23:39] <knome> xubuntu859, please pay attention if you want help
[23:41] <xubuntu859> Xfce version 4.10
[23:41] <xangua> 5:38 PM <knome> which xubuntu version are you using?
[23:41] <xubuntu859> i am trying
[23:41] <knome> xubuntu859, that's not what i asked; which xubuntu version are you running
[23:41] <xubuntu859> sorry
[23:41] <xubuntu859> where do i find that
[23:42] <knome> xubuntu859, in terminal, run "lsb_release -a"
[23:42] <xubuntu859> terminal emulater
[23:43] <knome> yes
[23:44] <xubuntu859> No LSB modules are available. user@user-Inspiron-5100:~$
[23:45] <knome> did you append the -a parameter after the command?
[23:45] <xubuntu859> ???
[23:45] <knome> did you run "lsb_release" or "lsb_release -a" ?
[23:45] <xubuntu859> no i didnt type -a is that what u mean
[23:46] <xubuntu859> 1st one
[23:46] <xubuntu859> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 13.10 Release:	13.10 Codename:	saucy user@user-Inspiron-5100:~$
[23:46] <knome> please run the command with "-a" as i said
[23:46] <knome> ok... you are running and end-of-life release
[23:47] <knome> or in other words, that release isn't supported any more, which is why you have an outdated firefox version
[23:47] <xubuntu859> yeah its a relic
[23:47] <xubuntu859> what can i do?
[23:47] <knome> i would suggest reinstalling
[23:48] <xubuntu859> newer version of linux?
[23:48] <knome> yes, newer version of xubuntu
[23:48] <xubuntu859> or xubuntu?
[23:49] <knome> xubuntu is one of the linux distributions
[23:49] <xubuntu859> can i download it off internet? if so how do i install it?
[23:49] <knome> !install | xubuntu859
[23:50] <knome> the same methods work for xubuntu too
[23:51] <xubuntu859> thank you for helping
[23:51] <knome> no problem and good luck