[00:10] popey, not yet. But I will re-run once fixed === bigt is now known as Guest4112 [00:20] where can i find help with developing a quickfixj applicaiton on ubuntu does anyone know? [00:21] I'm trying to debug a quickfixj connection issue [02:53] Hello there, I'm a new developer hoping to take part in the scopes showdown, right now I'm having trouble with setting up the emulator [02:54] Could someone please tell me why the devices tab says, "The device is currently booting..." Even when the emulator is up and running? [02:54] Pressing the refresh button does not do any change either. [03:02] appdevs [09:32] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Pancake Day! 🙌 [09:45] popey, ping [09:50] hello nik90 [09:50] Sorry for bugspam [09:50] popey, nah I like seeing these small papercut bugs :) [09:50] :) [09:50] about bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543496, I think with the UC 1.3 migration it is mostly gone. [09:50] Launchpad bug 1543496 in Ubuntu Clock App "‘Shutter’ effect animation on title bar when opening bottom edge should not be present." [Undecided,New] [09:51] Great! [09:51] I was copy/pasting bugs from a design review doc, so sorry if I missed things which are fixed but not landed. [09:51] About https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543476, may I ask why you want the clear button to be shown? [09:51] Launchpad bug 1543476 in Ubuntu Clock App "stopwatch: Start & Clear should be visible before stopwatch started" [Undecided,New] [09:51] oh these are from design review? [09:52] yes [09:52] I was under the impression that the new design doc only shows a "start" button in the stopwatch page. [09:52] These come from updated design specs for buttons [09:52] which I'm attempting to get access to for you [09:52] Ok. I will target all these bugs against the 3.7 milestone which is intended for MWC. [09:53] Awesome, thank you nik90 [09:53] * popey files one more [09:53] the new design is more or less done thanks to bartosz and michael predotka. [09:53] will follow up with them about what's left. [09:53] Apologies if there's a lack of detail. if you have any more questions which are design specific we can poke JMulholland :) [09:53] his name is all over this 😃 [09:54] sure, no problemo [09:54] JMulholland: specifically, could you tell me what colour is appropriate for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543501 ? [09:55] Launchpad bug 1543501 in Ubuntu Clock App "settings: wrong font colour (purple) for section titles" [Undecided,New] [10:41] popey: what's your solution for Marvin to interact with the app? I'm looking into autopilot for scopes and I'm not fond of it. Not for running tests, just a sequence of taps on the screen. [10:48] davidcalle: good question. currently don't have a solution [10:49] davidcalle: would like a really simple streamlined way of injecting presses, press-hold and swipe [10:50] dpm: am i right in saying there's currently no possible way to run x86 unity8 on any known device? [10:50] (specifically installing clicks in said environment) === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [10:57] (which I assume is why you're using debs) [11:01] Pondering if it's really worth pushing fat packages to the store, given nobody uses them on x86 devices [11:06] davidcalle: lego mindstorm robotic arm? [11:07] davmor2: :D [11:07] popey: I think that is mostly because you don't have access to the click store from the desktop so people use the ppa that they can install though right? [11:08] popey: might be different if more people were trialling unity8 on desktop maybe [11:11] davmor2: You do have access to the click store on some builds I've seen, but installing clicks fails [11:11] popey, I'm not sure I understand the question, but here's what I did, in case that helps: [11:11] davmor2: I don't think we're ever going to support clicks on the desktop [11:11] dpm: my point is about having fat (armhf/i386/amd64) clicks in the store [11:11] - installed the unity8-mir-desktop-session package (or whichever the right name is) on my xenial desktop [11:11] ah, I see where you come from [11:12] We used to have an image that worked, but now we don't seem to be able to install clicks on the desktop so why bother putting x86 builds in the store? [11:12] not that I know of, but best to ask kgunn or pmcgowan [11:12] "Snappy will fix this" of course (c) ogra [11:12] okay [11:12] popey, we've never been able to install clicks on the desktop to the best of my knowledge [11:12] ditto [11:13] We could save space on user devices by doing thin packages [11:13] (only a few are fat) [11:13] at least when I used to run the unity8 in LXC session a while ago, click was not working, and there were no plans to make it work [11:13] ok [11:13] yeah, so we have think packages now for snappy [11:13] They were uploaded fat only because the assumption was there that at some point soon there'd be a click desktop [11:13] yeah [11:14] But if that won't happen then we can save space and bandwidth [11:14] I don't think it'll happen for clicks, no [11:14] popey, yeah, I'd say let's remove the fat clicks and think of a way to do it when we move to snaps for core apps [11:14] I mean let's trim the fat, not remove them :) [11:15] 😃 [11:23] Ok, will do for next set of uploads. [11:25] * popey looks for a dholbach [11:43] popey, which app is it? [11:43] file manager [11:43] sure, let me take a look [11:44] thanks :) [11:44] you can leave when you're done ㋛ [11:49] done [11:52] * popey hugs dholbach [11:53] * dholbach hugs popey back === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [14:07] popey: hey, isn't the calendar supposed to have a local calendar instance? [14:08] or do I have to add an online calendar to be able to save anything? [14:08] faenil, there used to be a "Personal" calendar [14:08] (local instance) [14:08] yeah...I remember that [14:09] click kebab, tick personal calendar [14:09] sorry, faenil click kebab, choose calendars, tick personal one [14:10] (on a hangout, biab) [14:11] kebab.. now I'm hugry [14:12] :) [14:13] popey: there's on Add online calenda [14:13] ok [14:13] I reset configs and caches, fyi [14:16] faenil: you dont see personal at all? [14:17] faenil: wonder if this is to blame http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/revision/753 [14:17] popey: nope [14:17] * faenil clicks [14:18] popey: cannot read "collectionId" of undefined [14:18] can you file a bug please faenil ? [14:19] popey, i doubt that ... thats only for the "New Event" [14:19] iirc that Personal calendar even comes from syncevolution [14:19] popey: I wanted to understand if it's because I reset config,cache and .local/share folders [14:20] well, i still see it here, and I didnt do that [14:20] so quite likely [14:20] (you get it on desktop too if you use a fresh evolution install) [14:20] I don't know if this is a calendar or evolution issue [14:21] also, adding a new calendar returns a QDbusError [14:21] this is on Xenial+Unity8 on laptop [14:21] ah [14:22] you should have said that 15 mins ago :) [14:23] popey: yep, I should have [14:23] doing 3 things at a time decreases my efficiency :) [14:23] :) [14:24] faenil: only 3 pfff ;) [14:24] davmor2: on 3 diff laptops, that's what smashes my brain :D [14:27] bartbes: https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-terminal-app/add-control/+merge/282280 [14:27] bartbes: see comments.. :) [14:27] mmm [14:27] OnlineAccountsUi: unrecognised option '--socket' and 'profile" [14:27] ... [14:28] popey: would you happen to have an old click of something fairly big like file manager or document viewer or similar? (I'm fixing some UDM stuff with click updates and need a large click I can keep re-updating to test with) [14:29] Elleo: i have everything [14:30] popey: awesome :) [14:30] Elleo: http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2016/ [14:30] popey: perfect, thanks [14:31] np [14:38] popey: I do think it should highlight, but I really just lack the experience with qml to do it [14:39] ditto :) [14:40] bartbes: I'll leave a comment [14:40] well, I've got a launchpad account too :P [14:46] bartbes: yeah, i thought you just hated bzr ㋛ [14:47] hate's a strong word, but I'll reply, at least [14:47] :) [14:48] now.. how do I subscribe.. [14:53] to the merge? [14:54] subscribe to the bug I think [15:05] popey: who's working on calendar at the moment? [15:06] Nobody consistently full time. [15:06] We've had a bunch of patches recently from renatu and gary [15:07] ok, thanks :) [15:07] popey: didn't we move to buteo for calendar as well? [15:08] meanwhile, laptop doesn't have sync-monitor and all the syncevolution stuff installed, that's surely one of thep roblems [15:08] faenil: not yet afaiaa [15:08] popey: I see, so buteo is only for contacts atm, right? [15:08] yes [15:09] cool, thanks [15:09] * faenil installes sync-monitor and all its deps [15:09] that would help [15:10] apparmor denials now...dconf permission denied [15:10] aw :( [15:42] kenvandine: do you know if there's a plan to add a notification for app updates (like we have for system updates) in system settings? [15:43] popey, no solid plan... we want a background service for handling updates [15:43] settings can't do that [15:43] ah [15:43] there was talk ages ago about creating that, but nobody has done it [15:43] a background service that also handled actually applying the updates as well as installs from the scope [15:44] just providing an API for use to use [15:44] like update-manager for the phone :) [15:44] us to use [17:17] ogra_: if you get a moment, can you pair one of your ouya controllers with your ubuntu phone and reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1542305 ? [17:17] Launchpad bug 1542305 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Pressing button on bluetooth game pad shuts unity down" [Undecided,Incomplete] [17:17] popey, thats possible ?!? [17:17] yup [17:17] wow, i didnt know [17:17] just want to make sure it's not just me or my device [17:17] will take a bit til i have some time for that though (and i need to find batteries) [17:18] hehe [17:18] not much in use anymore :) [17:18] yeah [17:18] one reason why i'm playing with it with ubuntu [17:18] time that we create an ubuntu-tv unity8 image for it ;) [17:18] hah [17:21] you're the only person I know who has one === javiercrowsoft1 is now known as javiercrowsoft [19:47] Does anyone here have experience with the javascript scopes? I'm running into some issue that's crashing it and I don't know how to fix it [19:47] I've tried googling around a bit, but haven't found anything [19:48] RPiAwesomeness: what's crashing what? :) [19:48] My scope is crashing [19:48] RPiAwesomeness: are you able to start your scope? [19:48] It starts but then freezes up and this is in the console: [19:48] Error: libunity-scopes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [19:49] RPiAwesomeness: which version of Ubuntu are you using? [19:49] s/version/release [19:49] 15.10 [19:50] RPiAwesomeness: running Unity or another desktop? [19:50] Unity [19:50] (hold on, feeding baby :)) [19:50] No problem :) [19:54] RPiAwesomeness: maybe "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libunity-scopes3" could fix it, first time I'm seeing your issue [19:56] davidcalle: Package libunity-scopes3 is not available, but is referred to by another package [19:57] I reinstalled libunity-scopes1.0 and that resolved that issue but now I'm getting this: "error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.55.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [20:06] davidcalle: Should I reinstall the SDK? I just updated it, but maybe reinstalling it would make sure everything is up to date? [20:12] davidcalle: Okay, strange. I created a new project with the sample weather scope code and that runs fine [20:55] davidcalle: Well, I got it running. However, now I'm running into a new issue with getting the data from the API I'm trying to use [20:55] That's more of a Node/JS issue than a scope issue though === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj [22:31] I can't get PageHeader to work [22:31] it tells me it is not a Type