[00:10] <balloons> popey, not yet. But I will re-run once fixed
[00:20] <Guest4112> where can i find help with developing a quickfixj applicaiton on ubuntu does anyone know?
[00:21] <Guest4112> I'm trying to debug a quickfixj connection issue
[02:53] <nipuna> Hello there, I'm a new developer hoping to take part in the scopes showdown, right now I'm having trouble with setting up the emulator
[02:54] <nipuna> Could someone please tell me why the devices tab says, "The device is currently booting..." Even when the emulator is up and running?
[02:54] <nipuna> Pressing the refresh button does not do any change either.
[03:02] <nipuna> appdevs
[09:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Pancake Day! 🙌
[09:45] <nik90> popey, ping
[09:50] <popey> hello nik90
[09:50] <popey> Sorry for bugspam
[09:50] <nik90> popey, nah I like seeing these small papercut bugs :)
[09:50] <popey> :)
[09:50] <nik90> about bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543496, I think with the UC 1.3 migration it is mostly gone.
[09:50] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1543496 in Ubuntu Clock App "‘Shutter’ effect animation on title bar when opening bottom edge should not be present." [Undecided,New]
[09:51] <popey> Great!
[09:51] <popey> I was copy/pasting bugs from a design review doc, so sorry if I missed things which are fixed but not landed.
[09:51] <nik90> About https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543476, may I ask why you want the clear button to be shown?
[09:51] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1543476 in Ubuntu Clock App "stopwatch: Start & Clear should be visible before stopwatch started" [Undecided,New]
[09:51] <nik90> oh these are from design review?
[09:52] <popey> yes
[09:52] <nik90> I was under the impression that the new design doc only shows a "start" button in the stopwatch page.
[09:52] <popey> These come from updated design specs for buttons
[09:52] <popey> which I'm attempting to get access to for you
[09:52] <nik90> Ok. I will target all these bugs against the 3.7 milestone which is intended for MWC.
[09:53] <popey> Awesome, thank you nik90
[09:53]  * popey files one more
[09:53] <nik90> the new design is more or less done thanks to bartosz and michael predotka.
[09:53] <nik90> will follow up with them about what's left.
[09:53] <popey> Apologies if there's a lack of detail. if you have any more questions which are design specific we can poke JMulholland :)
[09:53] <popey> his name is all over this  😃
[09:54] <nik90> sure, no problemo
[09:54] <popey> JMulholland: specifically, could you tell me what colour is appropriate for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1543501 ?
[09:55] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1543501 in Ubuntu Clock App "settings: wrong font colour (purple) for section titles" [Undecided,New]
[10:41] <davidcalle> popey: what's your solution for Marvin to interact with the app? I'm looking into autopilot for scopes and I'm not fond of it. Not for running tests, just a sequence of taps on the screen.
[10:48] <popey> davidcalle: good question. currently don't have a solution
[10:49] <popey> davidcalle: would like a really simple streamlined way of injecting presses, press-hold and swipe
[10:50] <popey> dpm: am i right in saying there's currently no possible way to run x86 unity8 on any known device?
[10:50] <popey> (specifically installing clicks in said environment)
[10:57] <popey> (which I assume is why you're using debs)
[11:01] <popey> Pondering if it's really worth pushing fat packages to the store, given nobody uses them on x86 devices
[11:06] <davmor2> davidcalle: lego mindstorm robotic arm?
[11:07] <davidcalle> davmor2: :D
[11:07] <davmor2> popey: I think that is mostly because you don't have access to the click store from the desktop so people use the ppa that they can install though right?
[11:08] <davmor2> popey: might be different if more people were trialling unity8 on desktop maybe
[11:11] <popey> davmor2: You do have access to the click store on some builds I've seen, but installing clicks fails
[11:11] <dpm> popey, I'm not sure I understand the question, but here's what I did, in case that helps:
[11:11] <popey> davmor2: I don't think we're ever going to support clicks on the desktop
[11:11] <popey> dpm: my point is about having fat (armhf/i386/amd64) clicks in the store
[11:11] <dpm> - installed the unity8-mir-desktop-session package (or whichever the right name is) on my xenial desktop
[11:11] <dpm> ah, I see where you come from
[11:12] <popey> We used to have an image that worked, but now we don't seem to be able to install clicks on the desktop so why bother putting x86 builds in the store?
[11:12] <dpm> not that I know of, but best to ask kgunn or pmcgowan
[11:12] <popey> "Snappy will fix this" of course (c) ogra
[11:12] <popey> okay
[11:12] <dpm> popey, we've never been able to install clicks on the desktop to the best of my knowledge
[11:12] <popey> ditto
[11:13] <popey> We could save space on user devices by doing thin packages
[11:13] <popey> (only a few are fat)
[11:13] <dpm> at least when I used to run the unity8 in LXC session a while ago, click was not working, and there were no plans to make it work
[11:13] <dpm> ok
[11:13] <beuno> yeah, so we have think packages now for snappy
[11:13] <popey> They were uploaded fat only because the assumption was there that at some point soon there'd be a click desktop
[11:13] <dpm> yeah
[11:14] <popey> But if that won't happen then we can save space and bandwidth
[11:14] <beuno> I don't think it'll happen for clicks, no
[11:14] <dpm> popey, yeah, I'd say let's remove the fat clicks and think of a way to do it when we move to snaps for core apps
[11:14] <dpm> I mean let's trim the fat, not remove them :)
[11:15] <popey>  😃
[11:23] <popey> Ok, will do for next set of uploads.
[11:25]  * popey looks for a dholbach
[11:43] <dholbach> popey, which app is it?
[11:43] <popey> file manager
[11:43] <dholbach> sure, let me take a look
[11:44] <popey> thanks :)
[11:44] <popey> you can leave when you're done ㋛
[11:49] <dholbach> done
[11:52]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[11:53]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[14:07] <faenil> popey: hey, isn't the calendar supposed to have a local calendar instance?
[14:08] <faenil> or do I have to add an online calendar to be able to save anything?
[14:08] <ogra_> faenil, there used to be a "Personal" calendar
[14:08] <ogra_> (local instance)
[14:08] <faenil> yeah...I remember that
[14:09] <popey> click kebab, tick personal calendar
[14:09] <popey> sorry, faenil click kebab, choose calendars, tick personal one
[14:10] <popey> (on a hangout, biab)
[14:11] <karni> kebab.. now I'm hugry
[14:12] <popey> :)
[14:13] <faenil> popey: there's on Add online calenda
[14:13] <faenil> ok
[14:13] <faenil> I reset configs and caches, fyi
[14:16] <popey> faenil: you dont see personal at all?
[14:17] <popey> faenil: wonder if this is to blame http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/revision/753
[14:17] <faenil> popey: nope
[14:17]  * faenil clicks
[14:18] <faenil> popey: cannot read "collectionId" of undefined
[14:18] <popey> can you file a bug please faenil ?
[14:19] <ogra_> popey, i doubt that ... thats only for the "New Event"
[14:19] <ogra_> iirc that Personal calendar even comes from syncevolution
[14:19] <faenil> popey: I wanted to understand if it's because I reset config,cache and .local/share folders
[14:20] <popey> well, i still see it here, and I didnt do that
[14:20] <popey> so quite likely
[14:20] <ogra_> (you get it on desktop too if you use a fresh evolution install)
[14:20] <popey> I don't know if this is a calendar or evolution issue
[14:21] <faenil> also, adding a new calendar returns a QDbusError
[14:21] <faenil> this is on Xenial+Unity8 on laptop
[14:21] <popey> ah
[14:22] <popey> you should have said that 15 mins ago :)
[14:23] <faenil> popey: yep, I should have
[14:23] <faenil> doing 3 things at a time decreases my efficiency :)
[14:23] <popey> :)
[14:24] <davmor2> faenil: only 3 pfff ;)
[14:24] <faenil> davmor2: on 3 diff laptops, that's what smashes my brain :D
[14:27] <popey> bartbes: https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-terminal-app/add-control/+merge/282280
[14:27] <popey> bartbes: see comments.. :)
[14:27] <faenil> mmm
[14:27] <faenil> OnlineAccountsUi: unrecognised option '--socket' and 'profile"
[14:27] <faenil> ...
[14:28] <Elleo> popey: would you happen to have an old click of something fairly big like file manager or document viewer or similar? (I'm fixing some UDM stuff with click updates and need a large click I can keep re-updating to test with)
[14:29] <popey> Elleo: i have everything
[14:30] <Elleo> popey: awesome :)
[14:30] <popey> Elleo: http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2016/
[14:30] <Elleo> popey: perfect, thanks
[14:31] <popey> np
[14:38] <bartbes> popey: I do think it should highlight, but I really just lack the experience with qml to do it
[14:39] <popey> ditto :)
[14:40] <popey> bartbes: I'll leave a comment
[14:40] <bartbes> well, I've got a launchpad account too :P
[14:46] <popey> bartbes: yeah, i thought you just hated bzr ㋛
[14:47] <bartbes> hate's a strong word, but I'll reply, at least
[14:47] <popey> :)
[14:48] <bartbes> now.. how do I subscribe..
[14:53] <popey> to the merge?
[14:54] <popey> subscribe to the bug I think
[15:05] <faenil> popey: who's working on calendar at the moment?
[15:06] <popey> Nobody consistently full time.
[15:06] <popey> We've had a bunch of patches recently from renatu and gary
[15:07] <faenil> ok, thanks :)
[15:07] <faenil> popey: didn't we move to buteo for calendar as well?
[15:08] <faenil> meanwhile, laptop doesn't have sync-monitor and all the syncevolution stuff installed, that's surely one of thep roblems
[15:08] <popey> faenil: not yet afaiaa
[15:08] <faenil> popey: I see, so buteo is only for contacts atm, right?
[15:08] <popey> yes
[15:09] <faenil> cool, thanks
[15:09]  * faenil installes sync-monitor and all its deps
[15:09] <popey> that would help
[15:10] <faenil> apparmor denials now...dconf permission denied
[15:10] <faenil> aw :(
[15:42] <popey> kenvandine: do you know if there's a plan to add a notification for app updates (like we have for system updates) in system settings?
[15:43] <kenvandine> popey, no solid plan... we want a background service for handling updates
[15:43] <kenvandine> settings can't do that
[15:43] <popey> ah
[15:43] <kenvandine> there was talk ages ago about creating that, but nobody has done it
[15:43] <kenvandine> a background service that also handled actually applying the updates as well as installs from the scope
[15:44] <kenvandine> just providing an API for use to use
[15:44] <kenvandine> like update-manager for the phone :)
[15:44] <kenvandine> us to use
[17:17] <popey> ogra_: if you get a moment, can you pair one of your ouya controllers with your ubuntu phone and reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1542305 ?
[17:17] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1542305 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Pressing button on bluetooth game pad shuts unity down" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[17:17] <ogra_> popey, thats possible ?!?
[17:17] <popey> yup
[17:17] <ogra_> wow, i didnt know
[17:17] <popey> just want to make sure it's not just me or my device
[17:17] <ogra_> will take a bit til i have some time for that though (and i need to find batteries)
[17:18] <popey> hehe
[17:18] <ogra_> not much in use anymore :)
[17:18] <popey> yeah
[17:18] <popey> one reason why i'm playing with it with ubuntu
[17:18] <ogra_> time that we create an ubuntu-tv unity8 image for it ;)
[17:18] <popey> hah
[17:21] <popey> you're the only person I know who has one
[19:47] <RPiAwesomeness> Does anyone here have experience with the javascript scopes? I'm running into some issue that's crashing it and I don't know how to fix it
[19:47] <RPiAwesomeness> I've tried googling around a bit, but haven't found anything
[19:48] <davidcalle> RPiAwesomeness: what's crashing what? :)
[19:48] <RPiAwesomeness> My scope is crashing
[19:48] <davidcalle> RPiAwesomeness: are you able to start your scope?
[19:48] <RPiAwesomeness> It starts but then freezes up and this is in the console:
[19:48] <RPiAwesomeness> Error: libunity-scopes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:49] <davidcalle> RPiAwesomeness: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:49] <davidcalle> s/version/release
[19:49] <RPiAwesomeness> 15.10
[19:50] <davidcalle> RPiAwesomeness: running Unity or another desktop?
[19:50] <RPiAwesomeness> Unity
[19:50] <davidcalle> (hold on, feeding baby :))
[19:50] <RPiAwesomeness> No problem :)
[19:54] <davidcalle> RPiAwesomeness: maybe "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libunity-scopes3" could fix it, first time I'm seeing your issue
[19:56] <RPiAwesomeness> davidcalle:  Package libunity-scopes3 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[19:57] <RPiAwesomeness> I reinstalled libunity-scopes1.0 and that resolved that issue but now I'm getting this: "error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.55.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[20:06] <RPiAwesomeness> davidcalle: Should I reinstall the SDK? I just updated it, but maybe reinstalling it would make sure everything is up to date?
[20:12] <RPiAwesomeness> davidcalle: Okay, strange. I created a new project with the sample weather scope code and that runs fine
[20:55] <RPiAwesomeness> davidcalle: Well, I got it running. However, now I'm running into a new issue with getting the data from the API I'm trying to use
[20:55] <RPiAwesomeness> That's more of a Node/JS issue than a scope issue though
[22:31] <ahoneybun> I can't get PageHeader to work
[22:31] <ahoneybun> it tells me it is not a Type