[17:33] <xnox> can armhf do gpt?
[17:33] <xnox> why should amd64 & i386 still semi-default to msdos?
[17:33] <xnox> why don't we switch everything to gpt?
[17:33]  * xnox assumes that e.g. uboot supports gpt
[17:51] <infinity> We don't switch x86 to GPT wholesale because most old BIOS implementations won't boot it.
[17:52] <infinity> Not all uboot implementations will either.
[17:53] <ogra_> recent ones do though ...
[18:08] <xnox> ogra_, i think arm64 defaults to gpt, but not armhf. obviously one can override it.
[18:08] <xnox> infinity, why is lucid still on archive.ubuntu.com mirrors?
[18:10] <ogra_> xnox, "defaults" is such a broad word :)
[18:10]  * ogra_ just booted an arm64 dragonboard via uboot with GPT ... 
[18:10] <ogra_> i booted it with MBR before though ... its a matter of hacking ;)
[18:12] <xnox> ogra_, partman-partitioning default_disk_label() function. This is #ubuntu-installer =) we get to pick what we lay down by default =)
[18:12] <ogra_> lol, right, i missed what channel i'm in ... for me itz was partition.sh and flash.sh :P
[18:13] <xnox> ogra_, hippie =))))))
[18:14] <ogra_> lol
[18:19]  * xnox ponders why popularity-contest is configured
[18:20] <cjwatson> because otherwise all systems with it installed end up with the same "unique" id
[18:21] <cjwatson> at least for ones installed from a livefs base
[18:21] <cjwatson> one of several packages that require that kind of handling
[18:23] <xnox> lol
[18:23] <xnox> well, we had all machines using same dbus-id and systemd machine-id for quite some time =) nobody complained
[18:24] <cjwatson> err, yes they did :)
[18:24] <infinity> Quite.
[18:24] <cjwatson> though the result of that is fairly subtle
[18:25] <infinity> I vaguely recall the dbus thing being fixed a day or two before release in London.
[18:25] <infinity> May have been the same release sprint where some crazy person was debugging grub by attaching gdb to qemu.
[18:25] <cjwatson> That was a sad time in my life
[18:26] <xnox> well i recall complaining about machine-id but it was just a grumpy rpm loving intel employee pointing fingers rather than it being a real issue i experienced from.
[18:27] <cjwatson> Havoc Pennington complained about it, in fact :P
[18:27] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/322830
[18:29] <xnox> and this is the sort of thing that probably keeps re-occuring in e.g. touch, snappy, cloud-image variants, lxd, etc.
[18:29] <xnox> a class of $must-be-unique bugs
[22:17] <agrajag> anyone know what/who creates the officially released ISOs, and specifically the mini.isos?