[06:12] http://news.softpedia.com/news/fairphone-2-ubuntu-touch-port-is-in-the-making-here-s-what-works-500105.shtml [06:12] nice! [08:28] Hello ! I tried to install ubuntu on Nexus10 (manta). I see there are recent images (https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu/manta/) but it could boot afterward. [08:28] is this meant to be working ? [08:36] guys who can answer me where i missed? zte t82, oem unlocked, device is in recovery mode now ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap [08:36] 2016/02/09 11:33:05 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting [08:37] powerewop: reboot in bootloader mode [08:37] or fastboot as they say it [08:38] if i'm booting in bootloader mode screen not works, just is dark [08:38] will it work correctly? [08:39] well, i'll try... [08:40] powerewop: does the zte t82 have a port ready for touch? [08:41] actually, idk.. [08:41] powerewop: its not wise to install ubuntu touch on a device not really supported... [08:41] !devices | powerewop [08:41] powerewop: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [08:41] i thought i thought Touch may be user at all devices [08:42] no yet mate [08:42] :( [08:42] powerewop: you can search the XDA forums to see if your device has a working project? [08:42] phone in bootloader mode now, but still waiting [08:42] yeah, i'll check everything now :D [08:42] thanks, guys [08:43] powerewop: you can buy a nexus4 or a bq 4.5 if you like ubuntu touch [08:45] i don't know about like i Touch or not yet, but i love ubuntu :) well, ZTE isn't in list of supported devices... [08:48] powerewop: sell your device and buy a bq :p [08:48] i like zte, thank you :) [08:49] how long ubuntu will come free for all devices? [08:49] Hello, while installing android-tools-adbd I am having strange error: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/android-tools-adbd not found. [08:49] adb, not adbd [08:49] android-tools-adb [08:49] powerewop: developers working hard, its not easy to just port devices like that, but your free to try the porting guid yourself [08:50] am i understand right, port is port for repository connect or what is it? [08:50] powerewop: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/android-tools-adbd [08:50] ugh.. [08:51] well, anyway.. while searching for this I found out that ogra_ had similar problem 2ish years back :D but no solution [08:51] http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/android-tools-adbd [08:51] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/28/%23ubuntu-devel.txt [08:51] powerewop: porting a device is to make a working image for a device, see topic [08:52] any idea what to do? [08:52] ah... ok, sry [09:24] morn [09:32] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Pancake Day! 🙌 === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [11:39] Hi, I tried here maps and it asked if I'd like to use updated version of maps. pressed ok and after that here app crashes every time. [11:41] error in webapp-container: malloc smallbin double linked list corrupted [11:42] vegetahd, rc r248 [12:24] slvn_: I'd be interested to hear how you get on as I was planning to flash a Manta image later today === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [12:29] lardman, ... I first start to see a mail/new about ubuports and see that the "nexus10" port was refresh. I start to flash my nexus with it. but it did not work. Then, I also look on the official devel-proposed and I saw there was need images built ! I try them. and it didn't work either. [12:30] But, since I saw many images on the official server, I wonder whether the image were broken, of if I just fail flashing my nexus10 [12:30] s/need/recent/ [12:30] The spreadsheet giving status of Nexus devices indicates that 20140821 is working [12:30] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Irz35QJOfvXKtUFx5a4TjktUcwc0ubKTfHz8KZzPM6Y/edit#gid=0 [12:31] but that's quite old.... [12:31] yep, I now, but they are old. I just wondering if they would be some new images. especially with latest mir api's. [12:32] Is there a maintainer for the Manta I wonder? It's one of the officially supported devices I think [12:33] Not anymore AFAU [12:33] tathhu: ah I see [12:35] tathhu: Can you remember vaguely when it was dropped? I'd be interested to know what the latest working build setup is [12:37] Like a week ago I saw something about manta images @ ubuntu-phone ML [12:37] ah, I must have searched that list for tilapia rather than manta, /me goes to look again [12:39] :P [12:41] hmm, can't see any posts with manta in the title all the way back to mid-Cotober [12:41] October even [12:41] I'll do some Googling [12:42] lardman: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg17857.html [12:42] "We're also slowly preparing for the removal of the no-longer supported [12:42] manta images from our official system-image servers." [12:43] svij: Thanks [12:43] np [12:47] UB Ports it is then, is this the right channel in that case? I see the forum link is down on the wiki main page [12:52] nm, link from site main page works [12:57] mzanetti, ping [12:58] jgdx, hi there [12:58] pongero [12:58] mzanetti, hey, I'm trying to port [1] to USS but it's not working well. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/update-inputinfo/+merge/273248 [12:59] jgdx, why/what? [12:59] mzanetti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15001145/ [12:59] jgdx, you should not need to port that to USS [13:00] mzanetti, how so=? [13:00] Mirv, when will the inputinfo patch land on the phone? [13:00] jgdx, because this will be part of QSystemInfo [13:00] yeah, but eventually, right? [13:00] jgdx, rather soon, I think [13:00] today? :p [13:01] Mirv will know [13:01] jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/763 [13:02] mzanetti, cheers! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [13:17] mzanetti: when someone tells me "it's good, please land it". my latest info from zsombi was that it doesn't work because of apparmor blockings, and a mir backend for providing the info for the Qt API would be needed [13:17] mzanetti: but unconfined it's supposedly working as is [13:17] Mirv, well, it would work for unity8 and systemsettings [13:17] jgdx: ^ [13:17] but yeah, for zsombi's use case it might be a bit of a problem atm [13:18] mzanetti: in that case I could finish the silo with one more final build and set it off towards QA. have you tested either unity8 or systemsettings with it, does it bring what's needed? [13:19] Mirv: mzanetti: talking about the device info API? [13:21] yes [13:22] Mirv, I'll give another review asap. I'll ping you [13:23] zsombi: yes [13:23] mzanetti: ok! [13:24] Mirv: mzanetti: the thing is that even if it doesn't work for UITK, it'd do the job on X apps, right? So we coudl also use it full featured once the Mir adaptation is done by lpotter [13:27] zsombi, yeah, also works for unity8 and systemsettings, given both are unconfined [13:55] Congratulate me, guys! I did last_kmsg. [13:56] This is CONFIG_SEC_LOG_LAST_KMSG flag in kernel defconfig. === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [13:56] Mirv, are there any docs for the 5.5 systeminfo? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:24] lpotter, hey, I'm looking at qsysteminfo and I'm unsure how to assert what type a device is? Using this example: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15001992/ [14:27] Mirv, that would be my only comment on the silo ^ [14:28] ogra_: hey! Do you know if the ./update script in ubuntu-touch-meta uses -proposed? [14:28] ogra_: I just wanted to update the seeds as per what's in -proposed and it didn't fetch the package I wanted during update [14:29] ogra_: do you know if it's ok to manually modify the seeds in this case? [14:30] sil2100, hmm, i dont think it does [14:31] (and i wouldnt know how to make it work) === barry` is now known as barry_ === barry_ is now known as barry [15:00] jgdx: regarding inputinfo part, not at this point, the patch is all code https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/101049/15//ALL,unified [15:01] jgdx: you might want to exchange experiences with zsombi who was successfully using it [15:03] jgdx: happy to help :) [15:06] Mirv, thx! [15:07] zsombi, cool :) It's basic really, how do I get only Mouse devices from a DeviceManager? I've been using this [1], but I'm not having any luck. [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15001992/ [15:09] jgdx: hmm... I've been using it from cpp, and it works there like charm [15:10] jgdx: see here https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/device_detection/+merge/284282 [15:11] zsombi, right. Good to know—most likely pebkac. Thanks! [15:11] jgdx: so the deviceAdded signal is sthing you don't get triggered at all? [15:12] zsombi, it triggers, and I have a device and device.properties.type, but I'm unsure how to assert the type [15:13] jgdx: the type is an enum, so you simply use == :) [15:13] jgdx: you are trying to check whether the flag is set :) [15:14] zsombi, that's actually code from the example folder in that silo [15:14] zsombi, okay, I'll try that! Thank you [15:15] jgdx: it's weird... the type is an enum, the filter is a flag. check the cpp code I have [15:17] indeed [16:37] !devices | OerHeks [16:37] OerHeks: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [16:48] Guys, where is system.img live on my device? [16:49] In /data? [16:53] hi cheery looks like we are all very alone here. [16:54] Very. :D [16:54] what kind of hardware are you looking into ? I am guessing this makes a big difference.. [16:58] Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I have system image, but when I drop it into /data initrd write the error: Couldn't find a system partition [16:58] It causes kernel panic [16:59] aha - you are one of the heroes who actually do things. [17:00] I believe you need to write the img file into existence, but I would need to go back and check. I use a BQ E5 so my life is easy [17:00] Yep. I'am almost built it. [17:01] i am curious enough to go look, back in a bit. [17:01] is there any installation guide to change samsung 10.1 gt n8010 from android to ubuntu? [17:01] Oh, yep [17:01] Just check wiki devices page. [17:02] Our device has Ubuntu Touch build made by mamenyaka. [17:03] sorry, but i only find a guide for sony nexus - does it also work for samsung? [17:03] Yep. I'm currently working on N8000 build. [17:04] If everything will be ok, I will work on N8010 [17:05] does it mean, that i schould wait? [17:07] Now -- doesn't. I would see qualitative system. [17:07] And all stuff must working. [17:10] so i understand, that it's better to wait until there is a final build for Samsung n8010. is it right? [17:11] Ur right [17:11] thank's and by [17:35] @CheeryLee it has been awhile since I did anything like that but I thought you were flashing the image, more than simply copying it. But that is why I gave up sideloading long ago. [17:50] TheOneLaw: I use rootstock script from the porting guide. [17:56] TheOneLaw: do you have another way? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:10] CheeryLee - you mean like this: $ ./rootstock-touch-install vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz out/target/product/mako/system.img ? [18:10] TheOneLaw: Yep [18:26] CheeryLee it looks like you are flashing two items: the tar.gz and also the system.img - correect ? [18:29] CheeryLee - I find this on the launchpad source site: ./rootstock-touch-install ./trusty-trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz ./system.img (assumes both files in the current directory) [18:29] Yep [18:32] This means what it is doing is writing the file system (tar.gz) and then painting it with the contents of system.img -- I guess the question is what happens when you do that ? [18:33] Is somebody else having trouble with the battery display? My (up to date) Aquaris 4.5 is reporting 91%, I charged it last Thursday. That has started a few months ago. [18:36] hi [18:36] Robert_Zenz : my BQ E5 (OTA-9) is doing okay but no guarantees about an E4.5. I do know it is always much better to turn off wifi unless you are actually using it. [18:37] TheOneLaw: Everything is OK - the system image writes to /data directory. [18:37] TheOneLaw: I think there is problem in touch script in initramfs. [18:38] Robert_Zenz: I've had some battery oddity in the past on my 4.5, but things seem OK just now. I was wondering if a charge to less than 100% confuses the battery stats, but I have never got around to investigating [18:39] TheOneLaw: But now after editing touch script I get uncempression error while kernel is booting. That's really funny. [18:40] Guys, how about battery life in Ubuntu? Worse then Android? [18:40] mcphail, well, I have drained and recharged it completely multiple times (mostly because It drops off *very* fast below 60% or so). [18:41] CheeryLee, my Aquaris 4.5, with WLAN/Bluetooth/GPS turned off lasts for roughy one and a half week on standby. [18:42] Hmm, it's tempting. [18:42] CheeryLee: I charge my phone every night, but I suspect i could charge it twice a week. [18:43] Old habits die hard [19:04] barry, can you have a look at bug 1508081 [19:04] bug 1508081 in ubuntu-download-manager (Ubuntu) "Fails to receive OTA updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508081 [19:04] barry, allowOverGSM should really only be set on auto downloads too [19:05] but we need a way to override that to force a download [19:10] CheeryLee - I gotta go now, but it sounds like your problem is simple but probably very difficult to locate inside your system.img - maybe a bad write version. good luck ! [19:10] TheOneLaw: I wiil find. Thanks! [19:11] mcphail and Robert_Zenz - always charge as often as you can otherwise you lose (gradually) capacity. good night all. [20:28] kenvandine: are you saying that when 'wifi-only' is set, you still want to allow downloads over gsm? [20:35] barry, yes [20:36] but not automatically [20:36] only when the user clicks download in the UI [20:36] kenvandine: then i think that has to set auto_download != 1 [20:36] no... different thing [20:37] auto_download is if it should download automatically when it's found [20:37] right now if on gsm, the download gets created with allOverGsm false [20:37] so udm doesn't download it [20:37] we want to be able to change that property on the download after it's created [20:38] and changing auto_download persists [20:38] kenvandine: that can't be done through the si client [20:38] this is for one time [20:38] right... we need to :) [20:38] once the group download is started, si is out of the picture until it receives signals from udm [20:38] no, i mean, afaik, there's no way to communicate what you want to udm [20:38] you should be able to change the property in udm though [20:39] Elleo, ^^ [20:39] i think you can [20:39] on an existing group download? [20:39] and if you can't, we can get Elleo to implement that [20:39] a group download? [20:39] it's a single download right? [20:39] kenvandine: but then, why not have system setting change that itself? [20:39] no, it's always a group download [20:40] because we don't have access to the download in udm [20:40] it's owned by s-i-d [20:41] Elleo is probably gone for the day now, but he can probably explain better [20:41] ok. i have lots of questions, and i'm kind of skeptical frankly [20:41] :) [20:41] but we can certainly talk about it [20:41] :) [20:42] right now there's no way to download the update if it was created without wifi if you set to auto download on wifi [20:42] we need to be able to manually click "Download anyway" type button to download [20:43] you could of course cancel the existing download and restart it while not on wifi-only. maybe not pretty but it's doable today [20:43] and because of other bugs, udm often doesn't know if you connect to wifi after [20:43] oh, i know about that ;) [20:44] that's a different bug though, which makes this worse [20:44] cancel and start again would be ok, but i don't want to change the auto_download setting before restarting it [20:44] since that's a persistent setting [20:45] if we want a one-time, really download over gsm update, we can't right now [20:46] barry, anyway, think about it and lets sync up with Elleo in the morning [20:46] the semantics of auto_download have morphed several times in the past. it's unfortunate, because i never thought it should be kept in si in the first place, but that horse has left the barn [20:47] kenvandine: huh? you're saying s-i updates can't happen over gsm? [20:47] dobey, not if you've set it to auto download over wifi [20:47] dobey: they can't happen over gsm if it's set to wifi-only [20:47] kenvandine: but it certainly does work [20:47] you really want a wifi-only-wink-wink-nudge-nudge [20:48] but that wifi-only setting is for auto downloads, shouldn't be for manual downloads [20:48] because i don't have wifi enabled on my phone, and system-settings is set to "on wifi" for "auto download" [20:48] and i haven't had any problems installing updates [20:48] kenvandine, I had that bug and I set all the devices to autodownload never [20:48] iirc, it even auto-downloads on gsm forme [20:48] but thats probably the network status thingy [20:48] pmcgowan: right, that will work too because that does not set gsm=False [20:49] dobey, not app updates [20:49] gsm=false is only set when wifi-only is set [20:49] dobey, it shouldn't [20:49] kenvandine: app updates never auto download do they? [20:49] nope [20:49] right [20:49] so what's the problem? :) [20:50] system-updates when auto download on wifi only, we have no way to force them to download [20:50] if the download gets created but doesn't start [20:50] kenvandine: the way i'm looking at the code, allow_gsm is not tied at all to the group download. it's entirely owned by the interface. so i think settings could flip the gsm flag [20:51] if we have the download object i guess [20:51] in fact, we force allow gsm=false when we create the group download because of a bug in python-dbus. it's only later that we set the gsm flag on the iface based on that setting [20:52] kenvandine: it looks to me like you don't need the group download object, just the interface [20:52] currently we never talk directly to udm for system updates [20:52] and i guess the download id [20:53] * kenvandine isn't familiar with udm [20:53] nope, we don't have any of that. all we do is iface.allowGSMDownload(allow_gsm) [20:53] the id my be in the object path or something, don't know [20:53] haven't looked [20:54] so there's nothing that only si has to flip the gsm flag [20:54] but that's a property on the individual download [20:54] not globally [20:54] kenvandine: what i'm saying is that afaict, it *is* global [20:54] i hope not [20:55] toggling that could then mess up browser downloads :) [20:55] it a property on the download object [20:55] * kenvandine isn't talking dbus API... just udm cpp api [20:55] kenvandine: ok, i'll review the code more closely, and we can talk about it tomorrow [20:56] yeah, Elleo understands this stuff much better than i do [20:56] cool. then we'll talk about it then [20:56] barry, thx [20:56] cheers [21:19] does anyone have the problem of text overflowing into the Tab? [21:19] but only on devices not in the SDK [21:48] mm the SDK is telling me that PageHeader is not a type [21:48] ahayzen, any ideas? [21:52] mhall119, pin === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj [22:21] how do I know if it is the framework version being wrong? [22:28] mhall119: ping [22:30] hey mariogrip [22:30] ahoneybun: Hey :) [22:44] what's the ubuntu-pd channel for? [22:54] !pd [22:58] talking about irc channel? [23:07] it is a release channel for ubuntu touch apparently [23:11] was wondering what is in it specifically. [23:15] d-p would be devel-proposed [23:16] omg yes of course. haha i should be in bed it seems [23:17] thnks k1l_ [23:34] <_Sponge> nhaines: New video looks s'well. Not sure if everyone bis picking it up from your LJ page (?) [23:34] <_Sponge> http://nhaines.livejournal.com/69721.html [23:35] _Sponge: Thanks. It's actually mirroed on Planet Ubuntu, which is where I presume people will read it. [23:36] <_Sponge> fair enough. [23:39] <_Sponge> nhaines: Just as an aside. Community-thingy : I'm still waiting for Josee from ubuntu onair to update the Calendar to reflect weekly Q&A that /should/ be below on Tues. Could you prompt him, next time to see a stickie ? [23:40] <_Sponge> http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/ [23:40] <_Sponge> No worries if your busy at the moment. [23:41] I've sent jose a reminder. [23:41] <_Sponge> cheers. [23:49] <_Sponge> nhaines: Quick query, if you've a sec (just say IDK if not) ? [23:50] <_Sponge> What channel should I be on to ask about fingerprint readers for laptops ? [23:51] _Sponge: presumably #ubuntu, but I can save you time and just tell you that none of them work. [23:51] I'm asking again because my buffer was too short to see if there was a reply. I'm noticing a lot of curl 404's when running my initial phablet-dev-bootstrap, is that safe to ignore? [23:51] There's a model or two that you can use software to construct an image from scanned data, but I don't think there's anything that does anything useful about that. [23:51] <_Sponge> Note: this bis for a package for Ubuntu distro, not a flavour #elementary as it happens. [23:52] Still #ubuntu [23:56] <_Sponge> nhaines: This is the story so far .. http://postimg.org/image/w52myz0gf/