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diddledandoobleydo01:14
mappshi all;]03:33
Myrttitime of day07:35
zmoylan-pi$timeAppropriateWearinessOfSpirit07:40
Myrttidweaver: any hope for you fixing your client soon?07:40
zmoylan-piit'a nor irc if someone isn't bumping in and out... :-)07:41
MooDoomorning all07:54
knightwisemorning toasters !08:16
zmoylan-pimmmm, toast...08:21
MyrttiI've become a butter snob and nothing but the Welsh butter from Tesco is good enough for me nowadays08:25
MooDoo:)08:25
zmoylan-piwelsh butter... now that i think of it i don't think i've ever seen butter from another country in irish supermarkets...08:29
Myrttithere's scottish and english and god all sorts too08:30
zmoylan-pibut leave space for pancake tuesday...08:30
MyrttiFinland has two shrove days, so we had our pancakes already on Sunday08:31
zmoylan-piinteresting... any reason for two?08:31
Myrttitoday could be a cream bun and pea-and-ham-soup day but I don't want pea soup08:32
zmoylan-piham it is... :-P08:32
Myrttizmoylan-pi: I assume it's because of the last Sunday before lent or something08:34
MyrttiI'd kill for an almond-paste and cream filled bun08:34
Myrttican't be arsed to make any myself so meh08:35
MyrttiI'll just suffer in silence08:35
zmoylan-pimaim for a wagon wheel filled with jam? :-)08:35
popeyGood morning ratfans.09:17
MooDooyeeeeeeeeeeeeh!09:17
MooDooor perhaps that should of been "ello roland"09:18
* zmoylan-pi releases box of kittens to take out rat in cutest way possible...09:19
MooDoozmoylan-pi: did you get the reference?09:21
zmoylan-pithe 80s had some weird presenters... metal mickey...09:21
* zmoylan-pi wonders where big ted and little ted are now...09:24
davmor2Morning all09:25
davmor2zmoylan-pi: yes in comparison with the 90's with Mr Blobby and Zig and Zag09:26
zmoylan-piwell... we had zig and zag in 80s...09:26
MooDoomorning davmor209:26
MooDooi loved metal mickey09:26
davmor2zmoylan-pi: well 87 I guess but most prevalent in the 90's09:27
zmoylan-piwho kinda ruined their kids show by throwing a puppet from 70s called bosco around chanting 'bosco is a boll@x' when they didn't know camera was live...09:28
davmor2I have this stuck in my head today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1voj6H8CHY09:29
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Pancake Day! 🙌09:31
zmoylan-pipancake tuesday \o/09:33
zmoylan-piwhen all the good catholics in ireland can be persecuted by evil people continuing their vices around them :-) :: me stocks up on chocolate ::09:33
popeyI got up nice and early and made pancakes for breakfast for the family09:34
popeyStupidly didn't make enough for me09:34
zmoylan-pidid you get at least 1 pancake stuck to the ceiling?09:35
popeyJamesTait: what is that unicode char?09:41
popeyU+1F64C ?09:41
popeyI doubt anyone but you has that in their font :)09:42
JamesTaitpopey, I know at least three other people who do. 😉09:42
JamesTaitIt's a person holding their hands up in celebration.09:43
JamesTaitOr because they're about to be tazered.  Not sure which.09:43
JamesTaitI prefer the first.09:43
JamesTaitpopey, fonts-symbola or ttf-ancient-fonts-symbola seem to be the packages to install.09:44
popeyalan@deep-thought:~$ apt-cache search fonts-symbola ttf-ancient-fonts-symbola09:45
popeyalan@deep-thought:~$09:45
popeynot on our flagship LTS release :)09:45
JamesTaitWell, only a couple more months and our flagship LTS release will get with the times. 😉09:46
davmor2JamesTait: 3 songs to sum up today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teaft0Kg-Ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHyB9KzQvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UIB9Y4OFPs09:54
davmor2you must understand I wasn't prepped for this day at all and went out of my way to find songs on pancakes that were fun and amazing I can't believe how fast his mouth goes popey this guy makes jcastro speed seem slow ;)09:57
MooDoohttps://play.spotify.com/user/europeanspaceagency play the tim Peake play list :)09:59
JamesTaitNot bad, davmor2. 😉10:00
JamesTaitI'll try and pick something more challenging tomorrow.10:00
zmoylan-piash wednesday...10:01
MooDoooh i do like the i3 window manager :)10:01
davmor2zmoylan-pi: ashes to ashes david bowie done next10:01
zmoylan-pii keep meaning to give that a go. i like the idea of a tiling window manager, every window in it's place...10:01
davmor2MooDoo: why?10:02
MooDoodavmor2: I'm a simple man simple requirements, guis suck :)10:02
davmor2MooDoo: byobu10:02
MooDoodavmor2: yes you keep telling me that :)_10:03
davmor2MooDoo: that's cause it rocks :)10:03
MooDoo:)10:06
davmor2MooDoo: the status bar at the bottom of the byobu screen alone is worth it's wait in gold10:09
MooDooI'm happy with i3 at the moment, just getting it how I like it10:10
davmor2MooDoo: http://byobu.co/10:13
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:14
MooDoodavmor2: yea I've watched the video10:25
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davmor2MooDoo: mutlitasking at it's best :)10:27
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MooDoodavmor2: yeah it looks good and I'll probably give it a try, just like i3 at the moment10:29
Myrttihttps://www.skrolli.fi/2016/02/sample-of-the-international-edition/11:11
awilkinsMay as I ask if this aligns with other people's experience - ecryptfs is a really slow FS to host VM images on?11:13
MartijnVdSawilkins: very much so11:13
awilkinsDarn11:13
MartijnVdSluks + lvm seems way faster somehow11:13
awilkinsPlus it's also very annoying in terms of filename sizes11:14
awilkinsIt doesn't like filenames more than 144 chars11:14
MartijnVdSreally? never ran into that11:15
MartijnVdSis that total or per component11:15
awilkinsOur sales team named some files with very long names and Syncthing had a mental because it couldn't write them11:15
awilkinsPer component11:15
davmor2awilkins: the encryption decryption happens with each transaction on ecryptfs with luks+lvm it is unlocked to use it and then locked again on shutdown as I understand it11:15
awilkinsDoing an apt-get dist-upgrade on a fresh VM I just installed and it's PAINFUl11:15
MartijnVdSdavmor2: for LUKS every disk write/read is also encrypted/decrypted.. has to be11:16
* awilkins wonders if he can un-ecryptfs his home folder easily11:16
awilkinsOr maybe if I store my VMs outside my home folder it will be better11:16
popeyawilkins: also +1 on ecryptfs slowness with VMs11:18
MartijnVdSbut then your VMs will be unencrypted11:18
popeyI moved all my VMs to a folder off root11:18
MartijnVdSOn my new laptop, I just use LUKS.. but I can't be bothered to reinstall this one11:18
awilkinsJust reinstalled this desktop *sigh*11:18
popeyyou can migrate11:18
popeyfrom ecryptfs to not11:18
popeybasically copy all the files out of the ecryptfs folder, move things about, remount, etc11:19
awilkinsYeah, there's an Askubuntu article I'm reading now11:19
awilkinsIt's now spent about 20 minutes unpacking a kernel update in this VM image11:21
awilkinsI'm guessing it's doing something monumentally awful like copying the whole file every time it syncs11:21
* awilkins murders VM11:23
MooDoodweaver: having a few connection issues?12:04
davmor2MartijnVdS: ah that's the difference luks encrypts when the disk is idle, ecryptfs happens on write make luks more efficient, ecryptfs's big advantage though is that you can have multiple passwords per user12:08
diddledanmornin12:43
diddledanwait, it's pancake day?!12:44
MooDooyup shrove tuesday12:44
zmoylan-piwhen all around the linux channels various recipes for pancakes are fought over... :-)12:44
MartijnVdSzmoylan-pi: vi pancakes! no emacs pancakes!12:49
zmoylan-piemacs pancakes require too many resources...12:51
mappshello12:57
mappswhere can i get pancakes12:57
mappsdont wanna make myself12:57
mappshmm12:57
mappsthink i got sunburnt in seville at the football;/12:58
popeyco-op12:59
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* popey looks at dweaver 13:08
* diddledan looks at popey looking at dweaver13:14
diddledanbouncy connections ftw?13:14
mappsno co-op here13:17
mappsin gibraltar13:17
mappsmaybe morrisons sell them at the cafe?13:17
mappshm13:17
diddledanooh, I've got a WordPress "Core Contributor" badge now! https://profiles.wordpress.org/diddledan13:20
czajkowskialoha13:21
diddledano/13:21
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mappswhos used miracast?13:52
mappshm misconduct was boring13:52
MartijnVdSmapps: I've never figured out how it's supposed to work13:53
mappsi read it as basically wireless hdmi13:53
mappsfrom android tablet/phone to a miracast tv or device using wifi direct?13:54
mappssome manufacturers name it differently and also read lots of devices dont work with others like thy should13:54
MartijnVdSyeah I've only used Chromecast and that works fine13:54
knightwiseMartijnVdS: you mirror your PC screen via chromecast ?13:55
MartijnVdSknightwise: we do presentations at work using them13:56
MartijnVdSwell using one xD13:56
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* davmor2 can't wait for the dev to finish working on athercast for Ubuntu :)14:10
knightwiseMartijnVdS: Using google presenter ?14:11
MartijnVdSknightwise: just casting anything really14:16
MartijnVdSfrom the browser, or the whole screen14:16
MooDoono dweaver you're drunk stop it :)15:24
MartijnVdSmaybe that's what the 'd' stands for15:25
zmoylan-piwe could order something from acme to stop him...15:25
MartijnVdSan ACME banhammer?15:26
zmoylan-pifree delivery...15:26
m0nkey_Myrtti brings the banhammer :)15:34
MyrttiI tried it in the morning and thought it was sorted so removed it15:34
Myrttialas it wasn't15:34
m0nkey_If only we could get the same response in #freenas. People's connections are _always_ cycling15:36
popeyis that because people irc from their freenas boxes ㋛15:38
MartijnVdSsubtle freebsd bashing :P15:38
MooDoo:)15:38
m0nkey_Both Linux and BSD people are awesome. I don't bash either of them. Unless they're missing a .bashrc file.15:39
MartijnVdS*goes to find a zsh user*15:40
m0nkey_Heh, I typically use csh on bsd.15:40
* DJones plays with a new Galaxy Tab S215:53
* awilkins is free of ecryptfs16:00
awilkinsNight and day16:00
m0nkey_heh16:00
awilkinsI'm sure it's fine for office users, but DAYM16:01
awilkinsNot so good for tech people16:01
m0nkey_VeraCrypt containers FTW for sensitive data16:07
m0nkey_back to work for me16:11
m0nkey_cya for now16:11
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mappshmm so tired lying down watching tv..always makes me tired18:15
diddledanx-files episode 3 was nuts20:14
diddledancomplete craycray20:14
zmoylan-pishhhhh was gonna watch that tonight20:14
diddledanthere's another tonight at 1am in america20:14
diddledanit's daftytime!20:33
diddledanello daftykins20:34
daftykins\o20:35
diddledano/20:35
daftykinsooh this is creepy but impressive - https://i.imgur.com/kuxvSB5.jpg20:37
diddledaneep20:37
diddledanthat's freaky20:37
diddledanhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/09/microsoft_sql_server_2014_bug/20:49
davmor2diddledan: did you like my selection for pancake day :D20:54
daftykinshttps://imgur.com/gallery/4jmu3p221:00
diddledanapparently sublime is still alive: http://thenextweb.com/apps/2016/02/09/sublime-text-is-being-developed-again-after-a-year-dormant/23:05

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