[01:14] <diddledan> doobleydo
[03:33] <mapps> hi all;]
[07:35] <Myrtti> time of day
[07:40] <zmoylan-pi> $timeAppropriateWearinessOfSpirit
[07:40] <Myrtti> dweaver: any hope for you fixing your client soon?
[07:41] <zmoylan-pi> it'a nor irc if someone isn't bumping in and out... :-)
[07:54] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:16] <knightwise> morning toasters !
[08:21] <zmoylan-pi> mmmm, toast...
[08:25] <Myrtti> I've become a butter snob and nothing but the Welsh butter from Tesco is good enough for me nowadays
[08:25] <MooDoo> :)
[08:29] <zmoylan-pi> welsh butter... now that i think of it i don't think i've ever seen butter from another country in irish supermarkets...
[08:30] <Myrtti> there's scottish and english and god all sorts too
[08:30] <zmoylan-pi> but leave space for pancake tuesday...
[08:31] <Myrtti> Finland has two shrove days, so we had our pancakes already on Sunday
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> interesting... any reason for two?
[08:32] <Myrtti> today could be a cream bun and pea-and-ham-soup day but I don't want pea soup
[08:32] <zmoylan-pi> ham it is... :-P
[08:34] <Myrtti> zmoylan-pi: I assume it's because of the last Sunday before lent or something
[08:34] <Myrtti> I'd kill for an almond-paste and cream filled bun
[08:35] <Myrtti> can't be arsed to make any myself so meh
[08:35] <Myrtti> I'll just suffer in silence
[08:35] <zmoylan-pi> maim for a wagon wheel filled with jam? :-)
[09:17] <popey> Good morning ratfans.
[09:17] <MooDoo> yeeeeeeeeeeeeh!
[09:18] <MooDoo> or perhaps that should of been "ello roland"
[09:19]  * zmoylan-pi releases box of kittens to take out rat in cutest way possible...
[09:21] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: did you get the reference?
[09:21] <zmoylan-pi> the 80s had some weird presenters... metal mickey...
[09:24]  * zmoylan-pi wonders where big ted and little ted are now...
[09:25] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:26] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: yes in comparison with the 90's with Mr Blobby and Zig and Zag
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> well... we had zig and zag in 80s...
[09:26] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:26] <MooDoo> i loved metal mickey
[09:27] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: well 87 I guess but most prevalent in the 90's
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> who kinda ruined their kids show by throwing a puppet from 70s called bosco around chanting 'bosco is a boll@x' when they didn't know camera was live...
[09:29] <davmor2> I have this stuck in my head today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1voj6H8CHY
[09:31] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Pancake Day! 🙌
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> pancake tuesday \o/
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> when all the good catholics in ireland can be persecuted by evil people continuing their vices around them :-) :: me stocks up on chocolate ::
[09:34] <popey> I got up nice and early and made pancakes for breakfast for the family
[09:34] <popey> Stupidly didn't make enough for me
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> did you get at least 1 pancake stuck to the ceiling?
[09:41] <popey> JamesTait: what is that unicode char?
[09:41] <popey> U+1F64C ?
[09:42] <popey> I doubt anyone but you has that in their font :)
[09:42] <JamesTait> popey, I know at least three other people who do. 😉
[09:43] <JamesTait> It's a person holding their hands up in celebration.
[09:43] <JamesTait> Or because they're about to be tazered.  Not sure which.
[09:43] <JamesTait> I prefer the first.
[09:44] <JamesTait> popey, fonts-symbola or ttf-ancient-fonts-symbola seem to be the packages to install.
[09:45] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ apt-cache search fonts-symbola ttf-ancient-fonts-symbola
[09:45] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$
[09:45] <popey> not on our flagship LTS release :)
[09:46] <JamesTait> Well, only a couple more months and our flagship LTS release will get with the times. 😉
[09:54] <davmor2> JamesTait: 3 songs to sum up today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teaft0Kg-Ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHyB9KzQvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UIB9Y4OFPs
[09:57] <davmor2> you must understand I wasn't prepped for this day at all and went out of my way to find songs on pancakes that were fun and amazing I can't believe how fast his mouth goes popey this guy makes jcastro speed seem slow ;)
[09:59] <MooDoo> https://play.spotify.com/user/europeanspaceagency play the tim Peake play list :)
[10:00] <JamesTait> Not bad, davmor2. 😉
[10:00] <JamesTait> I'll try and pick something more challenging tomorrow.
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> ash wednesday...
[10:01] <MooDoo> oh i do like the i3 window manager :)
[10:01] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: ashes to ashes david bowie done next
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> i keep meaning to give that a go. i like the idea of a tiling window manager, every window in it's place...
[10:02] <davmor2> MooDoo: why?
[10:02] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'm a simple man simple requirements, guis suck :)
[10:02] <davmor2> MooDoo: byobu
[10:03] <MooDoo> davmor2: yes you keep telling me that :)_
[10:03] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's cause it rocks :)
[10:06] <MooDoo> :)
[10:09] <davmor2> MooDoo: the status bar at the bottom of the byobu screen alone is worth it's wait in gold
[10:10] <MooDoo> I'm happy with i3 at the moment, just getting it how I like it
[10:13] <davmor2> MooDoo: http://byobu.co/
[10:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: yea I've watched the video
[10:27] <davmor2> MooDoo: mutlitasking at it's best :)
[10:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah it looks good and I'll probably give it a try, just like i3 at the moment
[11:11] <Myrtti> https://www.skrolli.fi/2016/02/sample-of-the-international-edition/
[11:13] <awilkins> May as I ask if this aligns with other people's experience - ecryptfs is a really slow FS to host VM images on?
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: very much so
[11:13] <awilkins> Darn
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> luks + lvm seems way faster somehow
[11:14] <awilkins> Plus it's also very annoying in terms of filename sizes
[11:14] <awilkins> It doesn't like filenames more than 144 chars
[11:15] <MartijnVdS> really? never ran into that
[11:15] <MartijnVdS> is that total or per component
[11:15] <awilkins> Our sales team named some files with very long names and Syncthing had a mental because it couldn't write them
[11:15] <awilkins> Per component
[11:15] <davmor2> awilkins: the encryption decryption happens with each transaction on ecryptfs with luks+lvm it is unlocked to use it and then locked again on shutdown as I understand it
[11:15] <awilkins> Doing an apt-get dist-upgrade on a fresh VM I just installed and it's PAINFUl
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: for LUKS every disk write/read is also encrypted/decrypted.. has to be
[11:16]  * awilkins wonders if he can un-ecryptfs his home folder easily
[11:16] <awilkins> Or maybe if I store my VMs outside my home folder it will be better
[11:18] <popey> awilkins: also +1 on ecryptfs slowness with VMs
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> but then your VMs will be unencrypted
[11:18] <popey> I moved all my VMs to a folder off root
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> On my new laptop, I just use LUKS.. but I can't be bothered to reinstall this one
[11:18] <awilkins> Just reinstalled this desktop *sigh*
[11:18] <popey> you can migrate
[11:18] <popey> from ecryptfs to not
[11:19] <popey> basically copy all the files out of the ecryptfs folder, move things about, remount, etc
[11:19] <awilkins> Yeah, there's an Askubuntu article I'm reading now
[11:21] <awilkins> It's now spent about 20 minutes unpacking a kernel update in this VM image
[11:21] <awilkins> I'm guessing it's doing something monumentally awful like copying the whole file every time it syncs
[11:23]  * awilkins murders VM
[12:04] <MooDoo> dweaver: having a few connection issues?
[12:08] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: ah that's the difference luks encrypts when the disk is idle, ecryptfs happens on write make luks more efficient, ecryptfs's big advantage though is that you can have multiple passwords per user
[12:43] <diddledan> mornin
[12:44] <diddledan> wait, it's pancake day?!
[12:44] <MooDoo> yup shrove tuesday
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> when all around the linux channels various recipes for pancakes are fought over... :-)
[12:49] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: vi pancakes! no emacs pancakes!
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> emacs pancakes require too many resources...
[12:57] <mapps> hello
[12:57] <mapps> where can i get pancakes
[12:57] <mapps> dont wanna make myself
[12:57] <mapps> hmm
[12:58] <mapps> think i got sunburnt in seville at the football;/
[12:59] <popey> co-op
[13:08]  * popey looks at dweaver 
[13:14]  * diddledan looks at popey looking at dweaver
[13:14] <diddledan> bouncy connections ftw?
[13:17] <mapps> no co-op here
[13:17] <mapps> in gibraltar
[13:17] <mapps> maybe morrisons sell them at the cafe?
[13:17] <mapps> hm
[13:20] <diddledan> ooh, I've got a WordPress "Core Contributor" badge now! https://profiles.wordpress.org/diddledan
[13:21] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:21] <diddledan> o/
[13:52] <mapps> whos used miracast?
[13:52] <mapps> hm misconduct was boring
[13:53] <MartijnVdS> mapps: I've never figured out how it's supposed to work
[13:53] <mapps> i read it as basically wireless hdmi
[13:54] <mapps> from android tablet/phone to a miracast tv or device using wifi direct?
[13:54] <mapps> some manufacturers name it differently and also read lots of devices dont work with others like thy should
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> yeah I've only used Chromecast and that works fine
[13:55] <knightwise> MartijnVdS: you mirror your PC screen via chromecast ?
[13:56] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: we do presentations at work using them
[13:56] <MartijnVdS> well using one xD
[14:10]  * davmor2 can't wait for the dev to finish working on athercast for Ubuntu :)
[14:11] <knightwise> MartijnVdS: Using google presenter ?
[14:16] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: just casting anything really
[14:16] <MartijnVdS> from the browser, or the whole screen
[15:24] <MooDoo> no dweaver you're drunk stop it :)
[15:25] <MartijnVdS> maybe that's what the 'd' stands for
[15:25] <zmoylan-pi> we could order something from acme to stop him...
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> an ACME banhammer?
[15:26] <zmoylan-pi> free delivery...
[15:34] <m0nkey_> Myrtti brings the banhammer :)
[15:34] <Myrtti> I tried it in the morning and thought it was sorted so removed it
[15:34] <Myrtti> alas it wasn't
[15:36] <m0nkey_> If only we could get the same response in #freenas. People's connections are _always_ cycling
[15:38] <popey> is that because people irc from their freenas boxes ㋛
[15:38] <MartijnVdS> subtle freebsd bashing :P
[15:38] <MooDoo> :)
[15:39] <m0nkey_> Both Linux and BSD people are awesome. I don't bash either of them. Unless they're missing a .bashrc file.
[15:40] <MartijnVdS> *goes to find a zsh user*
[15:40] <m0nkey_> Heh, I typically use csh on bsd.
[15:53]  * DJones plays with a new Galaxy Tab S2
[16:00]  * awilkins is free of ecryptfs
[16:00] <awilkins> Night and day
[16:00] <m0nkey_> heh
[16:01] <awilkins> I'm sure it's fine for office users, but DAYM
[16:01] <awilkins> Not so good for tech people
[16:07] <m0nkey_> VeraCrypt containers FTW for sensitive data
[16:11] <m0nkey_> back to work for me
[16:11] <m0nkey_> cya for now
[18:15] <mapps> hmm so tired lying down watching tv..always makes me tired
[20:14] <diddledan> x-files episode 3 was nuts
[20:14] <diddledan> complete craycray
[20:14] <zmoylan-pi> shhhhh was gonna watch that tonight
[20:14] <diddledan> there's another tonight at 1am in america
[20:33] <diddledan> it's daftytime!
[20:34] <diddledan> ello daftykins
[20:35] <daftykins> \o
[20:35] <diddledan> o/
[20:37] <daftykins> ooh this is creepy but impressive - https://i.imgur.com/kuxvSB5.jpg
[20:37] <diddledan> eep
[20:37] <diddledan> that's freaky
[20:49] <diddledan> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/09/microsoft_sql_server_2014_bug/
[20:54] <davmor2> diddledan: did you like my selection for pancake day :D
[21:00] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/gallery/4jmu3p2
[23:05] <diddledan> apparently sublime is still alive: http://thenextweb.com/apps/2016/02/09/sublime-text-is-being-developed-again-after-a-year-dormant/