| hikiko | hi | 05:49 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Good morning | 06:41 |
| didrocks | good morning! | 06:55 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks ! | 06:57 |
| didrocks | hey pitti | 06:58 |
| larsu | good morning! | 07:44 |
| pitti | hey larsu! | 07:46 |
| larsu | morgen pitti! | 07:46 |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 08:01 |
| larsu | bonjour didrocks! | 08:01 |
| desrt | happy 9am CEST, everyone! | 08:06 |
| * desrt parties | 08:06 | |
| larsu | haha | 08:06 |
| larsu | morning desrt | 08:06 |
| desrt | hello larsu! | 08:07 |
| desrt | and everyone else at the party :) | 08:07 |
| * desrt would also like to give a special mention to the coffee machine, for being so lovely | 08:08 | |
| didrocks | good morning desrt | 08:14 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:29 |
| seb128 | hey larsu pitti didrocks desrt | 08:30 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:30 |
| zzarr | hello! | 08:34 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va ? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ouais, et toi ? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | zzarr, hey | 08:34 |
| zzarr | I get an error trying to connect to WiFi networks from lightdm, "(32) Incufficient privileges" | 08:35 |
| zzarr | seb128, :-) | 08:35 |
| zzarr | I installed the system with the help of debootstrap so I suspect I'm missing some settings | 08:36 |
| seb128 | zzarr, try #ubuntu for user questions | 08:36 |
| * duflu just learned what he should already know | 08:36 | |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 08:37 |
| duflu | seb128: Morning | 08:37 |
| zzarr | seb128, duflu sent me here ;-) | 08:37 |
| duflu | Yeah | 08:37 |
| seb128 | zzarr, but that's normal afaik, the greeter has limited privileges to avoid having non auth users to be able to do too much on the system | 08:37 |
| zzarr | no problem, I'll ask in #ubuntu instead | 08:37 |
| duflu | Oh, so the system needs to learn about the network first inside a login | 08:38 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va :) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | zzarr, duflu, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-greeter-team/unity-greeter/trunk/view/head:/debian/unity-greeter.pkla | 08:38 |
| duflu | Yep, as designed | 08:39 |
| zzarr | I'll have a look, thanks | 08:39 |
| zzarr | seb128, is that ini file found on the system anywhere? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | zzarr, dpkg -S <filename> | 08:42 |
| seb128 | usually replies to that question | 08:42 |
| seb128 | unity-greeter: /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/unity-greeter.pkla | 08:42 |
| zzarr | seb128, okey, nice to know | 08:42 |
| zzarr | I'll have a look what it says on my system | 08:43 |
| zzarr | seb128, it looks the same to me | 08:47 |
| seb128 | zzarr, why would it be different? | 08:48 |
| zzarr | seb128, I don't know, but I checked in case | 08:48 |
| zzarr | seb128, is there a command to connect to WiFi from console? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | zzarr, nmcli | 08:57 |
| zzarr | thanks | 08:57 |
| seb128 | zzarr, http://askubuntu.com/questions/377687/how-do-i-connect-to-a-wifi-network-using-nmcli | 08:57 |
| zzarr | thanks seb128 | 08:58 |
| seb128 | yw! | 08:58 |
| Laney | hey hey | 09:01 |
| willcooke | g'mornin' | 09:01 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey u.k people | 09:02 |
| seb128 | how is your island today? | 09:02 |
| willcooke | what up seb128 | 09:02 |
| Laney | hey willcooke seb128 | 09:02 |
| willcooke | actually not too bad | 09:02 |
| Laney | it's sunny | 09:02 |
| seb128 | we have sun here this morning! | 09:02 |
| Laney | looks good! | 09:02 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:02 |
| * seb128 ^5 Laney | 09:02 | |
| flocculant | Laney has now broken that and the rain will be back later | 09:02 |
| Laney | oh noes | 09:03 |
| zzarr | seb128, the step where it says "To list WiFi networks" don't work | 09:04 |
| zzarr | it complaints that there is no list option | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I think nmcli changed syntax | 09:04 |
| zzarr | okey | 09:05 |
| seb128 | zzarr, try nmcli d wifi | 09:05 |
| Laney | nmcli dev wifi list ifname wlan0 | 09:05 |
| zzarr | seb128, okey, I'll do | 09:05 |
| seb128 | or what Laney says | 09:06 |
| seb128 | dunno the difference | 09:06 |
| Laney | don't you just love nmcli's interface?!?!?! | 09:06 |
| zzarr | thanks seb128 that worked | 09:06 |
| didrocks | good morning Laney, willcooke | 09:06 |
| Laney | hey didrocks! | 09:06 |
| willcooke | hey didrocks! How's your market? | 09:07 |
| didrocks | willcooke: busy market place! but good, thanks! :) | 09:07 |
| willcooke | didrocks, I see that a community guy might pick up Fritzing \o/ | 09:07 |
| didrocks | willcooke: it's the one with commit rights :) | 09:08 |
| willcooke | didrocks, that guy rocks! | 09:08 |
| willcooke | seb128, X tests: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15002882/ <-- no failures on Xorg though. :/ | 09:08 |
| didrocks | yeah, he really does :) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you help me with that maybe? is there anything keeping appstream in main? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.html lists it as "binary to demote", I'm wondering why it's not "source & binary" | 09:08 |
| willcooke | tjaalton, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813610 <--- fixed! Thank you! | 09:12 |
| ubot5` | Debian bug 813610 in xf86-video-omap "Please update to 0.4.4" [Wishlist,Fixed] | 09:12 |
| Laney | seb128: the source is in universe already | 09:13 |
| Laney | don't ask me! | 09:13 |
| seb128 | lol, ok | 09:13 |
| * seb128 demotes the binary | 09:13 | |
| tjaalton | willcooke: yeah, seems it got synced too | 09:13 |
| * Laney has not the power | 09:13 | |
| seb128 | so gcab can build | 09:13 |
| seb128 | can unblock gnome-software in universe | 09:13 |
| seb128 | until we get the MIR resolved | 09:13 |
| willcooke | tjaalton, can I mark that bug as fixed release?> | 09:16 |
| willcooke | (the Ubuntu one) | 09:16 |
| seb128 | urg, no, appstream-glib can't be demoted so it's not going to fix it | 09:16 |
| seb128 | need the security team to do that review then | 09:16 |
| tjaalton | willcooke: I just did | 09:17 |
| willcooke | tjaalton, \m/ | 09:17 |
| willcooke | thanks | 09:17 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, did the drivers situation get resolved yesterday? | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yes, -amdgpu is in main now | 09:17 |
| seb128 | great | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | so the images should be fine? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | indeed they are | 09:18 |
| seb128 | well the manifest is at least | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | cool | 09:18 |
| seb128 | I didn't try to boot one yet | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | so the xserver testing is going well, and a point-release happened yesterday. I'm thinking of moving them to main repo next monday before FF | 09:18 |
| seb128 | great | 09:21 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, hey, I guess you saw the pulseaudio build failure? | 09:24 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, they renamed pa_strlist_tostring to pa_strlist_to_string and 0600-droid-sync-with-upstream-for-Android-5-support-and-b.patch needs to have those changed | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey | 09:38 |
| andyrock | morning | 09:39 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: moin! | 09:39 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, the libreoffice autopkgtests seem grumpy with the update | 09:39 |
| seb128 | /tmp/adt-run.GLsJeZ/build.1te/libreoffice-5.1.0~rc3/solenv/gbuild/Package.mk:81: *** Something depends on package instsetoo_native_setup which does not exist.. Stop. | 09:39 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, ^ does it speak to you? | 09:39 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hey! | 09:39 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: hmmm, it tells me something in the libreoffice build system is fubared (or rather, the abuse we do with it to run the tests standalone). | 09:41 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: FWIW, it does not suggest that libreoffice itself is broken (yet). | 09:42 |
| seb128 | right | 09:42 |
| seb128 | still it makes britney frown at it | 09:43 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: for more, I'd need to get a local autopkgtest setup to see what is odd there. | 09:43 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: yeah, will look into it. | 09:43 |
| seb128 | well, one way or another we need to unblock it | 09:43 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 09:43 |
| * Sweet5hark mumbles something about "tests are for quicheeaters" and real programmers use pascal (http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html) | 09:45 | |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:46 |
| desrt | "One can tell immediately by this comment that Nicklaus Wirth is a Quiche Eater." | 09:49 |
| seb128 | shrug | 09:52 |
| * seb128 shakes fist at firefox, it crashed, used 100% cpu and now my awesome bar is less awesome/lost some history | 09:53 | |
| seb128 | I guess something in the profile got corrupted/deleted | 09:53 |
| seb128 | it's annoying! | 09:53 |
| desrt | seb128: firefox has some very serious issues when the history db gets too big | 09:53 |
| seb128 | :-( | 09:53 |
| desrt | i periodically sacrifice my history in order to avoid losing more important stuff like saved passwords :p | 09:54 |
| seb128 | that is suboptimal :-/ | 09:56 |
| Laney | oh em gee | 10:06 |
| Laney | we had a power cut | 10:06 |
| willcooke | nowai | 10:06 |
| Laney | I can now hear a symphony of burglar alarms | 10:07 |
| Laney | all across the land | 10:07 |
| willcooke | hah! | 10:07 |
| willcooke | I've never understood the logic in that | 10:07 |
| willcooke | presumably something like... now the burglars have reconnected the power I shall alert my owners to this probably break in | 10:08 |
| willcooke | or.. Ah, I am freshly switched on... let me sing you the song of my people | 10:08 |
| Laney | nah it was sounding when the power was off too | 10:09 |
| Laney | now I get to find all the shit that doesn't come up properly when power gets restored | 10:09 |
| * Laney stares at you, NFS mount on rpi | 10:09 | |
| willcooke | ha | 10:10 |
| willcooke | starting the things in the right order is always a pain | 10:10 |
| Laney | systemd kindly blocked my boot waiting for it | 10:10 |
| Laney | now... I was actually staring at some code before this rude interruption... | 10:11 |
| Laney | ... | 10:11 |
| * Laney looks for that video of Homer playing with the squirrels | 10:11 | |
| willcooke | :) | 10:12 |
| seb128 | need some UPS! | 10:12 |
| willcooke | Laney, https://frinkiac.com/ is your friend | 10:12 |
| Laney | this one will do | 10:13 |
| Laney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsKOYQ7z9CE | 10:13 |
| Laney | appstream segfaults... birds... appstream segfaults... cup of tea... | 10:14 |
| Laney | ok I'm back in the zone | 10:14 |
| Laney | WTF no I'm not | 10:16 |
| * Laney had never put pi's external hard drive in fstab | 10:16 | |
| pitti | seb128: ftr, chromium-browser has failed on armhf for a long time, little sense in retrying | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, can we skip it? | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: we have a force-badtest for it | 10:21 |
| pitti | pitti:force-badtest chromium-browser/48.0.2564.82-0ubuntu1.1222 | 10:21 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: see excuses.html "Should wait for chromium-browser 48.0.2564.82-0ubuntu1.1222 test, but forced by pitti " | 10:21 |
| seb128 | right, I overlooked that one | 10:22 |
| seb128 | do you get notified of every retry? ;-) | 10:22 |
| pitti | one of these days I need to fix britney to show the overrides right after/on the affected result | 10:22 |
| pitti | seb128: no, I just look at http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#queue-xenial-armhf to see how far we are | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I see | 10:23 |
| seb128 | sorry for adding useless backlog | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: perl and Qt in the silo combined have kept the armhf runners busy since Monday evening.. | 10:23 |
| pitti | no worries | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: the armhf machines need quite a lot of handholding, so I'm looking at running regularly | 10:23 |
| doko | seb128, Laney: all sphinx* related packages updated, and fixed simon. | 11:05 |
| doko | except for unity-voice | 11:05 |
| doko | now, there is a problem: the vcs reads for 2014-06: Remove old energy-based VAD | 11:05 |
| doko | and unity-voice apparently relies on that :-/ | 11:06 |
| Laney | doko: perhaps this is a thing that is not maintained | 11:12 |
| Laney | or needed | 11:12 |
| doko | how to find out? | 11:12 |
| Laney | it seems to not be on touch images | 11:12 |
| Laney | maybe ask sil2100 | 11:12 |
| doko | sil2100, ^^^ you touched this last | 11:12 |
| sil2100 | Hey, what's up? | 11:13 |
| doko | read backlog | 11:13 |
| sil2100 | hm, ok, I suspect this package is no longer used, but let me double-confirm that | 11:15 |
| sil2100 | s/used/maintained | 11:16 |
| doko | reverse-depends doesn't show anything for it | 11:19 |
| sil2100 | doko: yeah, confirmed it's not used or really maintained | 11:22 |
| Laney | FLUSH IT | 11:22 |
| doko | sil2100, please could you address this at some meeting that those packages are removed? these issues cost people's time :-( | 11:23 |
| doko | sil2100, please file a bug report and assign it to ubuntu-archive | 11:23 |
| sil2100 | doko: on it o/ I actually wonder why we didn't drop it when we dropped it from our touch images | 11:23 |
| sil2100 | Thought they had some other uses for it | 11:24 |
| doko | sil2100, bug report? | 12:06 |
| sil2100 | doko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-voice/+bug/1544025 | 12:22 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1544025 in unity-voice (Ubuntu) "Please remove unity-voice from the archive" [Undecided,New] | 12:22 |
| doko | sil2100, removed | 12:25 |
| sil2100 | doko: thanks o/ | 12:25 |
| seb128 | doko, Laney, check with ted or pete-woods maybe? I think unity-voice was going to be used for the hud (I think it's still on futur roadmaps, just not a priority atm) | 12:34 |
| Laney | yeah, when that time comes it can be fixed & reuploaded | 12:35 |
| Laney | already talked to pete on some other channel | 12:35 |
| seb128 | k | 12:36 |
| seb128 | I'm not going to complain about being agressive for removals | 12:36 |
| seb128 | usually it's the other way around, I would delete half of the universe craps but people keep saying that those might have some users and we should better fix things than remove them :p | 12:37 |
| doko | seb128, Sweet5hark: are you going to work on the hsqldb dep-wait? | 12:43 |
| * doko ducks | 12:44 | |
| seb128 | doko, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb/2.3.3+dfsg2-1 no dep-wait? | 12:44 |
| doko | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb1.8.0 | 12:44 |
| doko | yes, because it's still in universe | 12:45 |
| seb128 | I can fix that | 12:45 |
| doko | sure, and please all resulting component mismatches | 12:45 |
| seb128 | thanks for pointing it out | 12:45 |
| doko | I assume these are the same for the two versions | 12:46 |
| * Sweet5hark sticks pins in his libreoffice-base voodoo doll. | 12:52 | |
| Sweet5hark | doko: thanks for the notification. | 12:53 |
| willcooke | grrrrr. the big orange thing in the sky is too bright and now I'm having to close the blinds | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | send it over here, you can have our rain | 13:05 |
| * willcooke goes to look for an envelope | 13:05 | |
| pitti | ogra_: dry and half-sunny here :) | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | lucky you in the south | 13:06 |
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| Sweet5hark | *grmbl* | 14:43 |
| Sweet5hark | toggling proposed in software updater toggles binaries, but not deb-src ... | 14:43 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, did that use to work? unsure what's the logic but I would expect it to enable deb-src if you have those enabled for the main pocket | 15:36 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: dunno, if it used to work. I just enabled proposed via GUI, then installed the libreoffice bins and was confused for a sec when I got libreoffice 5.0.x with apt-get source | 16:09 |
| dobey | Sweet5hark: pull-lp-source is your friend, btw | 16:28 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: hacked the autopkgtest into submission, I think. needed some 3-line change in the bowels of the libreoffice build system | 16:30 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, cool | 16:32 |
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| davmor2 | whose the best person to talk to about secureboot and it's behaviour in 16.04, more specifically how to re-enable it after the installer disabled it? | 18:01 |
| willcooke | davmor2, humm, I would guess foundations | 18:02 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: thanks | 18:03 |
| willcooke | alrighty, g'night all | 18:03 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: libreoffice_5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu2 currently uploading to http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/ and should fix the autopkgtests. no upload of libreoffice-l10n needed though. should be finished in a few minutes -- suggesting upload tomorrow though (as per "no late evening or friday uploads if possible" guideline for libreoffice) | 18:15 |
| * Sweet5hark is of for the day. | 18:16 | |
| Sweet5hark | s/of/off/ | 18:16 |
| TheMuso | seb128: Yeah, I'm on it. | 21:00 |
| TheMuso | Gah I always do that... | 21:00 |
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| robert_ancell | attente, I pushed some coding style changes to the Ubuntu login dialog code | 22:00 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: I've been playing with the gnome-software ppa in xubuntu - sort of, just got back to looking again - completely updated it, currently it want's (and obviously does) remove system-config-printer for me - should I report that? is that something you'd want to see reported | 22:22 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, yeah, please report that | 22:23 |
| flocculant | ack | 22:23 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: given it's a ppa and it won't let me ubuntu-bug - anything you want me to attach to the manual report? | 22:26 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, just note in the report it's from the PPA | 22:26 |
| flocculant | ok | 22:27 |
| flocculant | bug 1544325 | 22:30 |
| ubot5` | bug 1544325 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Installing gnome-software removes system-config-printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544325 | 22:30 |
| flocculant | I know someone else in our team was looking I'll try and get them to confirm that | 22:30 |
| flocculant | I know timezone issue here - so if I can do anything - leave a ping in here perhaps and I'll see it when I get back | 22:33 |
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| robert_ancell | flocculant, thanks | 22:35 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: might actually be an issue with an old vm install and the ppa and updating/grading - someone else looked and can't confirm it - redoing mine | 22:50 |
| attente | robert_ancell: can we squash those commits together to make a clean patch? | 22:51 |
| robert_ancell | attente, I have a local branch with everything squashed together | 22:51 |
| robert_ancell | attente, I've never worked out the appropriate way to do this with git - do we start a new branch with a clean commit? | 22:52 |
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| attente | robert_ancell: i've only ever done it on private/in-progress branches too | 22:53 |
| attente | i guess it gets hard if we start to force-push to a common remote | 22:53 |
| attente | maybe it's best if you maintain the clean branch after all | 22:54 |
| robert_ancell | attente, yeah, the force push just doesn't seem to scale beyond one developer. | 22:54 |
| robert_ancell | attente, So I'm putting the patches from my rebased branch onto bugzilla - you can always pick up one of those and modify it if you need it | 22:55 |
| robert_ancell | attente, and of course it's not impossible to generate the rebased branch yourself, though there are likely many conflicts in the process | 22:55 |
| attente | yeah, you're right. probably best if you maintain the clean patchset | 22:57 |
| attente | but if you push it to the remote, i could work off of that instead | 22:58 |
| attente | because it must be confusing keeping track of changes between the wip branch and the bugzilla patches | 22:59 |
| robert_ancell | attente, it's not hard - I just do a git diff to see what needs pulling in and then git cherry-pick them followed by a rebase | 23:00 |
| robert_ancell | attente, the issue pushing to the remote is then we have to force push and it gets messy/dangerous | 23:01 |
| attente | robert_ancell: i think it's ok as long as you're the only one doing it. but yeah, if you're ok with cherry picking changes from the other branch, that's sounds ok too | 23:01 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: I was trying to unconfirm that bug - now I've got add-apt-repository crashing on me - so I'll leave it for tomorrow - but it appears that a clean install today installs -gnome | 23:21 |
| flocculant | I'll look as soon as I can on that | 23:21 |
| flocculant | bug 1544346 just in case that's important | 23:26 |
| ubot5` | bug 1544346 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "add-apt-repository crashed with ssl.SSLError in create_default_context(): unknown error (_ssl.c:3046)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544346 | 23:26 |
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