[00:03] <nhaines> _Sponge: I don't know anything about Elementary.  I would recommend #ubuntu.
[00:05] <k1l_> i would not recomment to use non ubuntu flavours if one wants support on irc.
[00:06] <nhaines> k1l_: I suspect it would depend on the individual distro.
[00:23] <Elleo> barry, kenvandine: looks like the way system-image-dbus is using it is global, there's an allowGSMDownload method on the manager itself that's getting called by the system-image-dbus stuff, which then goes and sets the allowGSMDownload on all the downloads currently in the queue; which seems really nasty to me :/
[00:27] <barry> Elleo: yeah, gosh that was all worked out with mandel ages ago
[00:28] <Elleo> barry: yeah, we might want to look at reworking that while we're fixing things, but we can discuss all that in the morning :)
[00:29] <barry> Elleo: +1
[00:38] <mhall119> mariogrip: pong
[00:41] <mariogrip> mhall119: I setup system-image for FP2 (haven't tested it) + fixed permission + sound
[00:41] <mariogrip> mhall119: wifi coming up soon
[00:41] <mhall119> mariogrip: \o/
[00:42] <mhall119> I will try u-d-f flashing my device tomorrow morning
[00:42]  * mhall119 is currently on the couch watching Jeapardy
[00:42] <mariogrip> mhall119: ack, I'm off to get some sleep :)
[00:44] <mhall119> yeah, it's late for you :)
[00:44] <mhall119> good night
[00:45] <mariogrip> night
[01:29] <_Sponge> nighty night  mariogrip Here's a bq ubuntu-phone  article for you tomorrow :) http://tinyurl.com/zowstb7
[01:31] <n1cky> Can someone please acknowledge me? Are canonical folk using in-house phablet-tools?
[01:35] <lpotter> are there any other phablet-tools?
[01:40] <n1cky> I mean there's the PPA on launchpad, but they might use an internal version.
[01:47] <lpotter> there might be development branches that some folks use, but probably mostly whatever is there
[02:15] <n1cky> okay. Well I'm getting errors when trying to run the bootstrap that downloads all the android sources
[02:15] <n1cky> curl is 404'ing a lot.
[02:16] <n1cky> is there a more formal place to get help, eg a mailing list?
[05:38] <blive> hi?
[05:38] <blive> somene there?
[05:39] <blive> i need some help with a nexus 7 2012
[05:39] <blive> how can i install linux in it touch or anything else
[05:43] <blive> [05:38] <blive> hi? [05:38] <blive> somene there? [05:39] <blive> i need some help with a nexus 7 2012 [05:39] <blive> how can i install linux in it touch or anything else
[05:51] <RAOF> blive: That's no longer one of our supported platforms, sorry.
[05:52] <RAOF> blive: You can probably install Ubuntu Touch onto it, but it might not work.
[05:55] <blive> ok, i found this preinstalled version, will this work? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/current/
[05:56] <RAOF> Oh, wow. Oldschool!
[06:17] <lpotter> I was told nexus 7 is still a reference platform. I was even sent one :)
[06:17] <lpotter> oh. might not be 2012
[06:17] <lpotter> ya, I've got a 2013
[06:23] <duflu> lpotter: You are fortunate then to have skipped Tegra
[06:24] <duflu> Also fortunate to have the model with wireless charging (Ikea has such chargers)
[06:25]  * duflu only just found out Nexus 4 and 5 has it. But not 5X or 6P
[08:56] <tsdgeos> mardy: have a second?
[08:56] <mardy> tsdgeos: hi! yep
[08:56] <tsdgeos> mardy: how do i see the debug output of signond?
[08:57] <tsdgeos> i changed /etc/signond.conf logginlevel to 2
[08:57] <tsdgeos> but i have no idea of what file to rad
[08:57] <tsdgeos> read
[08:57] <mardy> tsdgeos: if you don't want to change etc, you can also do "LoggingLevel=2" > ~/.config/signond.conf
[08:57] <mardy> tsdgeos: then, everything goes to the syslog
[08:57] <tsdgeos> ah ok
[09:19] <waressearcher2> can one install ubuntu on nexus devices ?
[09:25] <Smurphy> Anyone has the issue with repeating 1's filling up the text fields (any text field) when the virtual keyboard is up ? (Aquaris BQ E4.5 - OTA 9)
[09:33] <tathhu> reboot when enabling wifi hotspot known bug?
[09:39] <Smurphy> tathhu: Not happening with me. When I enable the WiFi Hotspot, it works.
[09:39] <Smurphy> Won't reboot by system.
[09:39] <tathhu> oh yeah, sorry
[09:40] <tathhu> doesn't reboot every time
[09:40] <Smurphy> I wonder if OTA 9.5 fixes my issue ;)
[09:41] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Plimsoll Day! 😃
[09:42] <Smurphy> Plimsoll ??? can one eat that ? :D
[09:53] <tathhu> Smurphy, all of them? :P
[09:53] <Smurphy> tathhu: all of them what ? :D
[09:54] <CheeryLee> JamesTait: Is it English holiday? Sorry for the ignorance
[09:54] <tathhu> dunno
[09:54] <tathhu> time to learn how to read and then sleep.
[09:55] <JamesTait> CheeryLee, just an internet "holiday"; I doubt it's actually celebrated anywhere.
[09:56] <Smurphy> prolly nowhere. Like the Admin day etc.
[09:57] <Smurphy> Ok. Deleted the .cache directory on my E4.5 ... Let'
[09:57] <Smurphy> s see if this repeating 1 bug still shows up.
[09:57] <Smurphy> BTW - any of you linked its owncloud to your touch device ?
[09:58] <CheeryLee> So, question related to Ubuntu: who is developing touch script?
[09:58] <Smurphy> what's a touch script ?
[09:58] <CheeryLee> It has a LOT of errors
[09:59] <CheeryLee> It lives in initramfs of Ubuntu Touch kernel
[09:59] <Smurphy> multitouch library for unity ?
[09:59] <CheeryLee> No, in the kernel. Linux kernel, not in the system.
[10:00] <Smurphy> Can't tell then.
[10:00] <Smurphy> Anyone knows of OTA 9.5 will be released tomorrow ?
[10:01] <CheeryLee> Smurphy: 6 weeks between releases, no?
[10:02] <mcphail> CheeryLee: the x.5 releases are hotfix releases, and don't follow the 6 week cycle
[10:02] <CheeryLee> So, can't tell then, sorry.
[10:04] <Smurphy> It was supposed to come out on the 4th of February. Then it got delayed by a Week because of issues mainly linked to the M10 tablet.
[10:05] <CheeryLee> How about convergence? Is it ready foe use?
[10:05] <JamesTait> mcphail, last I heard there was more going into the hotfix release than initially planned, it was delayed, and then it was considered possibly too large for a hotfix release and maybe better as a full OTA10.
[10:05] <mcphail> Smurphy: sounds as if the Mir chaps are getting close to fixing the screen-crash-during-calls bug which is annoying many people. i wonder if they'll delay 9.5 until that is done?
[10:05] <waressearcher2> can one install ubuntu on nexus devices ?
[10:05] <tsdgeos> mardy: would you have some time to help me a bit with some debugging of why logging in to youtube doesn't work for me?
[10:06] <waressearcher2> or there are only some specific models that supprot ubuntu installation ?
[10:06] <mardy> tsdgeos: sure
[10:06] <CheeryLee> waressearcher2: sure
[10:06] <waressearcher2> CheeryLee: are you a teacher pony ?
[10:06] <CheeryLee> waressearcher2: maybe. :D
[10:06] <waressearcher2> CheeryLee: do you like Big Macintosh ?
[10:07] <JamesTait> Smurphy, if you want a day to celebrate something you can eat, happy Cream Cheese Brownie Day! 😉
[10:07] <tsdgeos> mardy: my status is, i have a google account set up in system settings and it has the Youtube "marked" as enabled
[10:07] <CheeryLee> waressearcher2: As for me he is cool boy
[10:07] <tsdgeos> mardy: then i go to the youtube scope and press the login button
[10:07] <Smurphy> mcphail: That would be nice indeed.
[10:07] <tsdgeos> mardy: and the signond log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/15007782/
[10:07] <Smurphy> waressearcher2: Apparently the Nexus Tablet 7 works with it. got one here, but I need whatsapp for keeping in contact with my daugher.
[10:08] <tsdgeos> mardy: from processUiRequest i guess that a ui should be shown? but it is not, and the destroyUnused is probably a timeout, no?
[10:08] <mardy> tsdgeos: looks like it's waiting for the UI to appear
[10:08] <Smurphy> JamesTait: I live in france. I don't need extra days to celebrate. Havea 39 PTO days :)
[10:08] <mardy> tsdgeos: correct
[10:09] <mardy> tsdgeos: do you have some other trusted session active? This might be caused by the fact that currently mir allows only one trusted session at a time, on the system
[10:09] <tsdgeos> mardy: why would it need a ui if i already set it up in the system settings and gave youtube permissions?
[10:09] <moritz31> hey guys, i have a quesiton related to ubuntu touch porting, am i right here ?
[10:09] <tsdgeos> mardy: no this is a clean reboot
[10:09] <mardy> tsdgeos: it might be that the youtube scope requires different OAuth permissions than those requested when setting up the account -- I don't remember
[10:09] <JamesTait> Smurphy, I couldn't even tell you how many I have any more, but it's not as many as that.  I wasn't far off that when I worked at Rolls though.
[10:10] <mardy> tsdgeos: to debug it further, make sure that online-accounts-service is not running
[10:10] <mardy> tsdgeos: then OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL=2 OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=9999 online-accounts-service
[10:10] <mardy> tsdgeos: then try again
[10:10] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:10] <Smurphy> JamesTait: :) In france, it is officially 25 to 30 Days, + RTT. They had lowered the work week to 35Hours, then raised it again. But as compensation, every worker has 1 Additional day off RTT ber month.
[10:10] <tsdgeos> i'll be back
[10:10]  * tsdgeos reboots the phone
[10:11] <Smurphy> So makes at least 25+12=37 for workers.
[10:11] <JamesTait> RTT?
[10:11] <CheeryLee> Guys, when I change the kernel config, should I rebuild the kernel?
[10:11] <CheeryLee> With tottaly clean
[10:11] <Smurphy> Work Time reduction.
[10:12] <JamesTait> Smurphy, like national holidays?
[10:12] <JamesTait> CheeryLee, it's a very long time since I built a kernel, but I always used to build from clean.
[10:13] <tsdgeos> mardy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15007801/
[10:13] <CheeryLee> JamesTait: OK, thanks
[10:13] <tsdgeos> mardy: but there's no trust session for me to see
[10:14] <Smurphy> JamesTait: No. Some years ago the French government had reduced the weekly work time to 35 Hours. Then some fewer years ago, they raised them again to 40 Hours - but they needed to compensate the people for it.
[10:14] <Smurphy> So everyone got one Extra day off per Month.
[10:15] <JamesTait> Smurphy, right, sorry, I missed the "per month" part before.
[10:15] <mardy> tsdgeos: mmm... I need to check something, it may be that we show the window only when the webpage has fully loaded, and maybe for some reason this doesn't happen here... let me check
[10:16] <Smurphy> :)
[10:18] <mardy> tsdgeos: yep, that seems to be the case: it looks like the page never finishes loading
[10:19] <tsdgeos> mardy: ¿?
[10:19] <tsdgeos> i do have interwebs on the phone
[10:21] <tsdgeos> mardy: or you mean the url we're loading is weird and has some kind of autorefresh/never finish to load thing?
[10:21] <mardy> tsdgeos: might be due to the onLoadingChanged mess which I've been reading about in the ML...
[10:22] <mardy> tsdgeos: do you have a writable rootfs?
[10:22] <tsdgeos> mardy: sure
[10:22] <mardy> tsdgeos: please edit /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ubuntu-system-settings/private/Ubuntu/OnlineAccounts/Plugin/WebView.qml
[10:23] <tsdgeos> mardy: editing...
[10:23] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:23] <mardy> tsdgeos: :-D
[10:23] <mardy> tsdgeos: replace onLoadingChanged with onLoadingStateChanged
[10:24] <tsdgeos> ok, retrying
[10:24] <mardy> tsdgeos: then please try again -- you don-t need to restart the command, you can keep the old one running
[10:25] <mardy> tsdgeos: actually no, better kill the old one
[10:25] <tsdgeos> mardy: that is much better
[10:27] <tsdgeos> i mean i still get the login to youtube button
[10:27] <tsdgeos> which is ultra weird
[10:28] <tsdgeos> but at least i get the browser dialog and the ui is not dead
[10:28] <Smurphy> Hmm. Just noticed that the Shorts app in OTA 9 does convert data in RDF Feeds -> & converts to amp ...
[10:28] <Smurphy> Why is that ?
[10:29] <CheeryLee> What is about bug 1387214
[10:29] <ubot5`> bug 1387214 in android-tools (Ubuntu RTM) "[TOPBLOCKER] file corruption on touch images in rw portions of the filesystem" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387214
[10:30] <tsdgeos> mardy: so how do we proceed from here? is there a bug for that already? you mention some discussion in a ML?
[10:30] <mardy> tsdgeos: nope, there's no bug yet; it would be great if you could file one
[10:31] <tsdgeos> mardy: ok, on a call, i'll create it after it
[10:47] <Smurphy> darn. identified a new bug in Shorts ...
[10:47] <Smurphy> .oO(Open a bug report ???)
[10:52] <popey> Smurphy: yes :)
[10:53] <Smurphy> Jsut collecting evidence
[10:53] <popey> super :)
[10:53] <moritz31> does someone of you know how i can integrate the sony custom kerneltoolchain ?
[11:00] <CheeryLee> moritz31: Ubuntu kernel differs from Android only the couple of flags for LXC support
[11:00] <CheeryLee> moritz31: What do you want? Morw info please
[11:07] <Smurphy> popey: If you want to check it out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1543995
[11:07] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1543995 in Canonical System Image "Shorts converts & into &amp; when reading RDF feeds" [Undecided,New]
[11:07] <popey> thanks
[11:07] <Smurphy> Ah. The Bot just put it in :)
[11:08] <popey> confirmed
[11:10] <Smurphy> confirmed ? :D
[11:11] <Smurphy> popey: I actually have a very picky website Engine (self developed) which also has a very trigger-happy dynamic blacklisting integrated.
[11:12] <Smurphy> and I catch everything which is not expected.
[11:12] <popey> confirmed as in, i reproduced it
[11:12] <Smurphy> Cool :)
[11:12] <Smurphy> I was wondering why the images are not showing up in Shorts. Reason I checked ;D
[11:14] <Smurphy> and my monitoring system sent me reports about variable manipulation :D
[11:29] <Smurphy> So - why is nobody developing actively the owncloud-app ????
[11:31] <Smurphy> Anyone has a good link for an introduction on how to program an app fopr ubuntu touch ?
[11:33] <MCMiiic> Smurphy: The account system of ubuntu touch seems quite difficult to access from apps
[11:34] <Smurphy> MCMiiic: Yeah. I can't install the ubuntu-sdk on my 15.10 ...
[11:34] <Smurphy> Well, using KUbuntu anywya.
[11:34] <mcphail> Smurphy: there are platform issues which make it difficult to create some classes of apps. File sync is a major difficulty
[11:35] <Smurphy> mcphail: You mean for owncloud stuff ?
[11:36] <mcphail> Smurphy: yes, as an example
[11:36] <Smurphy> file sync is actually one of the easyest disciplines IMHO.
[11:36] <mcphail> Smurphy: not on Ubuntu, it isn't
[11:37] <mcphail> Smurphy: the combination of app confinement and lifecycle management make the Sync experience... underwhelming.
[11:37] <Smurphy> The evolution data-server currently running on the touch is OK, but the current UI is crap. Can only add Google accounts ? C'mon ...
[11:37] <Smurphy> mcphail: That is indeed possible.
[11:37] <MCMiiic> Smurphy: Yeah :-/
[11:37] <MCMiiic> Smurphy: I’m not sure if someone is working on that or not.
[11:37] <Smurphy> don't think so...
[11:37] <MCMiiic> Configuring carddav with commands work but this is far from ideal
[11:38] <Smurphy> There is an owncloud-app - but last update was end of 2014.
[11:38] <Smurphy> MCMiiic: Yes. I know. And especially if you have 7 Calendars to sync, it's a pain...
[11:38] <MCMiiic> I didn’t even try calendars, I only synced contacts for now
[11:42] <Smurphy> contacts is easy. Celandars is tricky, as it syncs them all into one calendar, so you have to merge.
[11:42] <Smurphy> But if then you sync your phone with the calendate in both directions, your main calendar on Owncloud gets all the merges ...
[11:42] <Smurphy> Crap ... :(
[11:42] <Smurphy> Took me a while to figure this out.
[11:56] <Smurphy> BTW - anyone knows on how the playlists are created/stored on the music app ?
[11:58] <popey> in sqlite3 in ./.local/share/com.ubuntu.music/Databases I think
[11:58] <Smurphy> Checking ...
[11:59] <popey> ya
[11:59] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.music/Databases$ grep music-app-playlists *.ini
[11:59] <popey> 2be3974e34f63282a99a37e9e2077ee4.ini:Name=music-app-playlists
[12:00] <Smurphy> Ok. Now I have to create one entry, and check what it looks like. Then I write a script to duplicate my playlists from Kodi :D
[12:00] <popey> :)
[12:00] <popey> excellent
[12:01] <Smurphy> already wrote a script for my Car's GPS System and my daughter's USB Key -> Stereo System.
[12:01] <Smurphy> All m3u based. But this should not be a problem.
[12:06] <Smurphy>  hate sqlite CLI UI. have to get used to syntax everytime I access it :}
[13:14] <mariogrip> is surfaceflinger (and/or it libs) needed?
[13:21] <jgdx> seb128, hey, got a min for a review of a change to uss url handling?
[13:24] <jgdx> Smurphy, it's better than \d… uuh.. \dt?
[13:25] <ogra_> mariogrip, no
[13:26] <ogra_> hwcomposer is iirc but nothing above that level
[13:26] <mariogrip> ogra_: ok, thanks
[13:38] <jgdx> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1533835/+merge/285603
[13:42] <ogra_> pmcgowan, do you know if in the ubuntu-pd image the Xorg app launchers should do anything ?
[13:42] <ogra_> (they dont on my N7)
[13:42] <ogra_> ... not even a splash screen or other feedback
[13:43] <Smurphy> OK - got my first rudimentary script that does the Creation of Playlists...
[13:44] <Smurphy> What a mess though. Kodi data transfer is not going to work.
[13:44] <Smurphy> Anyone knows how to read the rating of a mp3/m4a file on ubuntu touch ? OTA9
[13:45] <seb128> jgdx, k, let me have a look
[13:46] <jgdx> seb128, great. shortcutToUrl would be called by qml friends. I'm looking for feedback on where to store this information. Maybe directly in the code isn't great.
[13:48] <seb128> jgdx, it might be better in the .settings?
[13:50] <seb128> jgdx, though that's not the best idea either, screen might move to another panel
[13:51] <jgdx> seb128, yeah, but then it might be more natural to edit the settings files than the utils file
[13:51] <jgdx> so yeah, good point. Any ideas on a format?
[13:51] <seb128> jgdx, we might just want to create a new file ini style with some mapping?
[13:51] <seb128> like "key=url"
[13:52] <seb128> location=security-privacy?subpage=location
[13:52] <tsdgeos> mardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1544063
[13:52] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1544063 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "UI freezes when trying to log in from youtube scope" [Undecided,New]
[13:53] <mardy> tsdgeos: thanks!
[13:53] <pmcgowan> ogra_, I dont, you mean there is no feedbac while its taking tis time to show up?
[13:53] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, i have a bunch of apps preinstalled ... they have icons in the apps scope ... if i tap the icons nothing happens
[13:54] <pmcgowan> ogra_, they should launch, they do for me
[13:54] <pmcgowan> ogra_, whats not working?
[13:54] <ogra_> pmcgowan, they dont do anythig for me
[13:54] <pmcgowan> mako?
[13:55] <ogra_> thats an N7 though ...
[13:55] <pmcgowan> hmm still
[13:55] <jgdx> seb128, yeah, let's do that. My only argument against that format is that it is a bit ambiguous, whereas full url -> full url is clearer. What do you think?
[13:55] <pmcgowan> ogra_, they work for me on mako and frieza fwiw
[13:55] <pmcgowan> and for qa
[13:55] <jgdx> seb128, full urls eats query parameters, to that's a counter arg to that
[13:55] <ogra_> hmm, perhaps i need to wipe the device then
[13:56] <seb128> jgdx, well, the file is distributed with u-s-s so it's up to us to define the format, I would argue that easier to type is better but I've no strong opinion either way
[13:56] <davmor2> pmcgowan: I know why
[13:56] <davmor2> ogra_: ^
[13:57] <davmor2> pmcgowan: you installed the click package that makes them work
[13:57] <jgdx> seb128, thank you. And you're okay keeping it to utils, more or less the same api?
[13:57] <jgdx> s/to/in
[13:57] <ogra_> davmor2, ah, so the preinstalled ones dont do anything ?
[13:58] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, that works for me
[13:58] <davmor2> ogra_: you have libertine installed but not the other one digging out the link give me 5
[13:59] <pmcgowan> ogra_, latest pd channel has it all if you reflash afaik
[14:00] <ogra_> pmcgowan, right, i flashed freshly last week and it never worked
[14:00] <pmcgowan> hmm
[14:00] <ogra_> though i dont remember if i actually wiped/bootstrapped
[14:00] <pmcgowan> should have
[14:00] <ogra_> might be some leftover
[14:06]  * ogra_ flashes with --bootstrap
[14:15] <ogra_> bah, so i wiped a week of data and settings just to find it still doesnt wrk :P
[14:15] <ogra_> tapping on firefox or gedit doesnt get me any reaction
[14:29] <tathhu> Hmm, so many mir(?) (screen goes black -> ubuntu boot splash) chrashed today :l
[14:34] <mhall119> mariogrip: it seems ubuntu-device-flash is hanging
[14:34]  * mhall119 has the FP2 booted into recovery
[14:34] <mhall119> it downloads the images from your server, and then just nothing
[14:35] <mariogrip> mhall119: it seems to be a problem with the bootloader, the fairphone developers will take a look at it
[14:35] <mhall119> ok, so what's the workaround to try the latest image?
[14:35] <mariogrip> so u-d-f does not work atm
[14:36] <mariogrip> you can flash boot.img and recovery.img and go to recovey and run the script without --bootstamp
[14:37] <mariogrip> here is the new recovery https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/recovery.img
[14:37] <mariogrip> mhall119: ^
[14:39] <mhall119> the rootstock script?
[14:40] <mariogrip> no u-d-f
[14:40] <mariogrip> just without --bootstamp
[14:40] <mariogrip> bootstrap**
[14:42] <mhall119> flash the same boot.img as you gave me on Monday?
[14:42] <mariogrip> you don't need to flash that again (if you haven't flash android again)
[14:43] <mhall119> do I need to reboot between flashing the recovery and running the script
[14:44] <mariogrip> you need to flash the recovery, then reboot into recovery and then run the script
[14:44] <mariogrip> sudo fastboot reboot while you hold powerUp to reboot to recovery
[14:44] <mariogrip> volUp**
[14:46]  * ogra_ wonders if he missed the link from davmor2 :P
[14:49] <mhall119> mariogrip: I had to mkdir /cache/recovery/ on the device to get u-d-f working
[14:50] <mhall119> I was getting the unintuitive error: 2016/02/10 09:49:08 error pushing: failed to copy '/home/mhall/.cache/ubuntuimages/ubuntu-touch/stable/FP2/version-2.tar.xz' to '/cache/recovery/': Is a directory
[14:50] <mhall119> but /cache/ was empty
[14:50] <mariogrip> mhall119: did you mount cache?
[14:51] <mariogrip> mount  /cache
[14:52] <mhall119> oh, oops, no
[14:52] <mhall119> I remember now, I had to mount /cache and one other, which was it?
[14:53] <mariogrip> mount /data
[14:53] <mhall119> ok,then run u-d-f?
[14:53] <mariogrip> yeah
[14:54] <mariogrip> but, if it use cache to all files, cache might be too small on this device
[14:54] <mhall119> can the recovery img mount those directories for you?
[14:54] <mariogrip> yeah, i'll add that
[14:55] <mariogrip> I also made a custom recovery with some ubuntu functions (I could sleep, so I made a recovery xP)
[14:55] <mhall119> lol
[14:55] <mariogrip> I could not sleep*
[14:56] <mhall119> it appeared tohave enough space
[14:56] <mariogrip> \o/
[14:56] <mariogrip> as you see in the recovery it has "ubuntu actions"
[14:56] <mhall119> it's rebooting now,I see an Ubuntu icon on black
[14:56] <mariogrip> is it spinning?
[14:56] <mhall119> no
[14:57] <mhall119> it's not the same as I see on the N4 when updating either
[14:57] <mhall119> rebooted again, now I see the bootsplash
[14:57] <mhall119> is the lightdm stop/chmod/start thing still needed?
[14:57] <mariogrip> yeah, that's fine, it's a custom recovery, but i added the spinning, but i don't know why it does work
[14:57] <mariogrip> mhall119: nope :)
[14:57] <mhall119> \o/
[14:58] <mhall119> do I need to keep the screen active still, or does the power button work now?
[14:58]  * mhall119 hopes it works, because the screen just went dark
[14:58] <mariogrip> no, that is still on my todo list
[14:58] <mariogrip> adb reboot :)
[14:59] <mhall119> guess I'm rebooting then :)
[15:01]  * mhall119 needs to let this charge up a bit
[15:01] <mhall119> the battery completely drained last night
[15:03] <mariogrip> hand warmers uses lots of battery :)
[15:03] <mhall119> yeah
[15:03] <mhall119> I actually considered making a "hand warmer" app at one point, just something that burned CPU
[15:03] <mhall119> but that would probably be bad for the hardware
[15:03] <mariogrip> well, that isse seem to be linked to the "screen sleep issue"
[15:04] <mariogrip> issue*
[15:04] <mariogrip> mhall119: yeah, cpu like it cold
[15:04] <mariogrip> better use liquid nitrogen
[15:05] <mhall119> I'm sure that's covered under warranty
[15:05] <mariogrip> jup, it is
[15:07] <mhall119> bah, not enough charge to finish booting Ubuntu
[15:07] <mhall119> also, got very warm this time
[15:07] <mhall119> but the darn thing won't stay powered off
[15:09] <mariogrip> hehe, I use the recovery to charge
[15:16] <Smurphy> lol. Takes my BQ E4.5 quite long to get all pics for the playlists :D
[15:42] <jgdx> tedg, hey Ted, on xenial, u-a-launch and url-dispatcher fails to bring up System Settings using url-dispatcher settings:///system/cellular
[15:42] <jgdx> and using ubuntu-app-launch ubuntu-system-settings
[15:43] <tedg> jgdx: Does system settings get focused?
[15:43] <jgdx> tedg, it's not running. Sorry, s/bring up/start
[15:43] <tedg> jgdx: Is the "settings" protocol in the URL dispatcher DB?
[15:44] <tedg> jgdx: url-dispatcher-dump
[15:44] <jgdx> tedg, according to dump, yeah
[15:47] <tedg> jgdx: Hmm, I'd check the unity8 log then. We dont' do much other than query that db.
[15:48] <jgdx> tedg, this is unity7, desktop. But it used to work.
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-in-talks-with-android-oem-partners-for-ubuntu-phones-500212.shtml
[15:49] <tedg> jgdx: Oh, I'm not sure how that worked before...
[15:49] <tedg> jgdx: I guess before we checked with Unity to open. But that's really unsupported.
[15:49] <jgdx> tedg, aw. Okay, thanks.
[15:58] <jgdx> seb128, this is with the ini file https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1533835/+merge/285603
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/android-oems-will-ship-ubuntu-phones-year-say-canonical
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> rocknroll
[16:11] <mhall119> mariogrip: lots of apport processes spawning on boot
[16:14] <mhall119> I think system-image-dbus is crashing and restarting endlessly
[16:17] <mhall119> and now my battery is drained again :(
[16:17] <dobey> mhall119: unity8 is constantly crashing on rc-proposed on hammerhead for me
[16:17] <dobey> mhall119: or does the dash work fine on fairphone?
[16:17] <mhall119> dobey: on boot, or just during use?
[16:18] <dobey> mhall119: on boot
[16:18] <mhall119> dobey: currently I can't get past the boot splash
[16:18] <dobey> never gets past the ubuntu . . . . . screen
[16:18] <mhall119> same here
[16:18] <dobey> mhall119: sounds like unity8 crashing then
[16:19] <dobey> mhall119: well, "crashing"
[16:19] <dobey> mhall119: i think it's a qFatal() message causing an abort
[16:19] <mhall119> dobey: I see system-image-dbus and apport processes spawning endlessly
[16:19] <dobey> in the qpa
[16:19] <dobey> ah
[16:20] <mhall119> popey: what version of the pebble watch works with our phone?
[16:20] <dobey> i didn't have always adb enabled on my phone, so i didn't shell in to it; but i did see a crash report for unity8
[16:20] <dobey> i don't think system-image-dbus should block unity8 starting, should it?
[16:21] <mhall119> I don't know what it does, tbh
[16:22] <dobey> mhall119: and nothing in /var/crash/ ?
[16:22] <mhall119> not that I saw before my battery ran out
[16:24] <dobey> hmm
[16:27] <mhall119> mariogrip: I'm not having any luck getting rev 2 past the boot splash
[16:42] <popey> mhall119: all of them I believe - ask mzanetti :)
[16:43] <popey> mhall119: I have a Pebble Time.
[16:46] <mhall119> mzanetti: what pebble models does your app support? And which one(s) do activity tracking?
[16:47] <mzanetti> a) all of them b) anything with "Time" in the name
[16:48] <mzanetti> b*) old classic pebbles do too, but only with an app called misfit, the Pebble native health stuff only comes with the times
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> i saw that pebbles video nice one
[16:49] <mzanetti> which video?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> mzanetti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UFqmnEv8zA
[16:50] <mhall119> mzanetti: what's the difference between the Time and the Time Steel, just the material used?
[16:50] <mzanetti> mhall119, material, battery life, price
[16:51] <mzanetti> lotuspsychje, I totally didn't know this :D
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> : )
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> looks pretty shiny huh
[16:51] <popey> I *love* my pebble time
[16:55] <mhall119> ok, I'm sold
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> popey: is the app not yet on the store?
[17:00] <popey> what app?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> for that pebble watch
[17:02] <popey> lotuspsychje: it's in the open store
[17:04]  * popey makes food
[17:04] <popey> o/
[18:05] <mhall119> dobey: it's maliit-server and unity8-dash crashing
[18:05] <gihel> hey guys ! has anyone succeeded to indlude a video from ubuntu phone to a webpage using html <video> ? it tells me MIME or format unsupported but it seems it is encoded in standard h264
[18:06] <dobey> mhall119: have a link to errors.u.c for the unity8 one?
[18:07] <dobey> gihel: not sure what you mean. youtube on ubuntu phone is html5 <video>
[18:07] <mhall119> dobey: I don't think my phone's been alive long enough to send one, I just saw it is ps before it died
[18:07] <dobey> mhall119: ah. have you been able to connect it to wifi/3g at all yet?
[18:08] <mhall119> not that either
[18:08] <dobey> ok yeah. no network, no upload
[18:09] <gihel> dobey: yes, i mean i was trying to include a video from my phone to a webpage i wrote, firefox tells me MIME or format unsupported
[18:09] <dobey> gihel: ah, a video recorded by your phone?
[18:10] <gihel> and i actually can play h264 videos fromyoutube, that works
[18:10] <gihel> dobey: yes
[18:10] <dobey> i haven't recorded any videos on my phone.
[18:10] <dobey> is youtube actually sending h264? i thought they re-encoded everything to webp for html5
[18:10] <dobey> gihel: does it work in chromium or chrome?
[18:11] <gihel> yes, youtube sends h264
[18:11] <gihel> damn, I don't have chrome on my desktop
[18:12] <gihel> i'm gonna try on ubuntu browser
[18:36] <gihel> doesn't seem it's working :(
[18:43] <dobey> hmm, i'm not sure what codecs are used for video recording on the phone; and it might differ by device
[18:51] <gihel> according to VLC, it's H264 and AAC for audio
[19:33] <svij> /
[19:34] <svij> oops
[19:37] <n1cky> are any canonical folk on currently?
[19:37] <n1cky> I'm wondering if you guys use an internal release of phablet-tools
[19:42] <JanC> n1cky: I assume they use the version that is in Xenial or the ubuntu-sdk-team PPA ?
[19:43] <JanC> (except when testing a new version, of course)
[19:59] <pmcgowan> n1cky, no internal version
[20:03] <dom134> has anyone managed to get GPS working on a Nexus 4?
[20:04] <dobey> dom134: what channel are you using?
[20:04] <dobey> n1cky: just what's in ubuntu or the PPA
[20:04] <dom134> ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu
[20:05] <dom134> didn't know there was a ppa, what is it?
[20:05] <dobey> dom134: there's no ppa to make gps work
[20:06] <dobey> dom134: you might want to try ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en instead. it has the HERE bits to make AGPS work, iirc
[20:06] <dobey> pure GPS is very slow to resolve on phones, for some reason
[20:07] <dom134> righto, will it delete user data if I reflash?
[20:07] <dom134> not that I have much on there att
[20:08] <pmcgowan> no as long as you dont use wipe or bootstrap
[20:08] <dobey> dom134: you can run "sudo system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en" on the phone while on wifi and it will switch to that channel
[20:08] <pmcgowan> or that
[20:08] <dobey> and yeah, if you don't use wipe or flash in fastboot, it won't wipe the data
[20:08] <dom134> great, will give it a go. Thanks
[20:09] <dom134> Just spent 2 days on Ubuntu.  I miss a few apps, but it isn't too bad
[20:09] <pmcgowan> good to hear
[20:09] <dom134> Wifi hot spot and GPS are the most important to me at the moment
[20:10] <dobey> no wifi hot spot on mako unofrtunately
[20:11] <dobey> (mako is nexus 4)
[20:11] <dom134> right, I'll have to wait until my mako breaks and I can get the next phone!
[20:51] <n1cky> JanC: pmcgowan: dobey: thank you.
[21:03] <mterry> Does anyone know how the language-pack-touch-XX packages get defined?  I want to add Linux-PAM.mo files to them all
[21:04] <mterry> slangasek, ^?
[21:06] <dobey> mterry: from what source package?
[21:07] <mterry> dobey, well they each have their own source package (like language-pack-touch-es) -- surely they have a master source branch somewhere that defines what goes in
[21:07] <dobey> mterry: no, what source package does the .mo come from?
[21:08] <mterry> dobey, oh it's just the standard PAM gettext file.  It is in language-pack-es for example.  I just want it in the touch language pack too
[21:08] <mterry> dobey, so it comes from LP somewhere
[21:09] <dobey> mterry: ok, then it sounds like pam is already set up for langpacks but probably the touch stuff isn't pulling in the pam translations; i'd say ask pitti tomorrow
[21:09] <mterry> dobey, will do
[21:10] <dobey> iirc, it has something to do with ubuntu-rtm distro in LP, and maybe some magic config somewhere for touch
[22:14] <slangasek> mterry: I do not know, sorry; yes I would also defer to pitti on this
[23:53] <hggdh> ogra_: I applaud you patience