Unit193bluesabre: Merge request or direct push?00:00
bluesabreUnit193: feel free to direct push00:00
bluesabregood sir00:01
bluesabrenice work00:01
Unit193That just leaves gmb and lightdm stuff.00:07
bluesabreUnit193: that's kind of my general stance with a lot of things, if you're in -dev I feel as though you should be able to commit changes and poke me after, or make merge requests and throw rocks at me00:07
Unit193bluesabre: Heey, I already passed you the patch in Jan! :P00:08
bluesabreI usually open up branches and whatnot as they are shared, but lose them when my browsers crash00:08
Unit193Hah. :D00:08
bluesabreUnit193: yup, and I failed to follow up quickly on it (as above) ;)00:08
Unit193And yeah, would do gmb myself but not sure if you want to replace it with parole.00:08
bluesabrecan you share the gmb one again? I can take care of that one00:09
bluesabre(also gives me a chance to test that parole works)00:09
Unit193Eh, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml#L26 just showed what two lines.00:09
bluesabreoh right00:10
bluesabrejust need to do some grepping :D00:10
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/M8PGeFpA5F2yqGGfgYSA/ was just an indication of what needed done, as well as modify the maintscript to remove the old file.  (One move is just from debian/ to usr/share/blah, doesn't actually move it on the filesystem.)00:10
bluesabreI'm going to get xenial on here full time this week so I start noticing more00:10
Unit193...I didn't notice it in Xenial, but when I diffed the package to my forked version. :P00:11
bluesabreyay, xenial vm is updated00:11
Unit193And, IIRC you didn't want to look into elementary-xfce-themes this cycle, understandably.00:12
bluesabreyes, let's plan to start that migration at the start of yappy00:14
bluesabreyappy... yak00:15
bluesabrecalling it00:15
sergio-br2<sergio-br2> quick question, in the kernel version, 4.4.0-2  ==  4.4.1 vanilla ?00:31
sergio-br2nobody answered me in ubuntu+100:31
sergio-br2found the info00:49
bluesabrelooks like the greeter is getting confused (explaining the missing wallpaper)00:52
bluesabrewell, it's in a copy buffer in my vm, and its long, so take my word for it00:53
bluesabreor it could just be that things have moved around00:55
bluesabreanyway, a fix is on the way!00:55
bluesabreUnit193: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/revision/594 look good to you?01:58
Unit193bluesabre: Heh, well should work, though *.maintscript is a bit easier and bzr mv is a bit cleaner diff/history.  I wonder though, how that works with the moved config right above, eg from trusty to xenial?02:18
bluesabreUnit193: yeah, used to git handling that for me, forgot that bzr is a bit inferior02:35
bluesabreUnit193: good good question02:35
bluesabreI'll test it tonight, and try a package upgrade in trusty and see what happens02:36
bluesabreochosi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/154292703:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1542927 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power applet crashes when iPhone plugged in" [Undecided,New]03:44
bluesabrebed time, bbl03:49
flocculantknome: ty - I've scrubbed them from my list of things to after the gci stuff :)07:36
flocculantbluesabre: \o/07:36
flocculantknome: imagemagick turned up quite early with something, I did mention it at the time - I hid them both in the menu07:52
Noskcajbluesabre, menulibre and mugshot have RC bugs in debian for FTBFS. Should i be patching them or will you have the next stable releases out soon?08:29
dkesseli'm taking this from offtopic to here... what do you guys think about implementing a "low disk space" monitor as some kind of default process that gets configured for users? upon reaching "0 bytes" (or some other value), a notification might be shown periodically...?09:13
flocculant0 bytes is a bit late perhaps :)09:14
dkesselsure ;)09:14
pleia2I think that instead it would just be making one of the disk space tracking panel items a default component09:15
pleia2they change color as the disks get fuller09:15
pleia2but it would be terribly annoying if you had a disk you knew was near/full, or it was tracking another partition that is intentially full09:15
flocculantpleia2: I didn't even know they existed09:15
dkesseli have those on my laptop to watch space.09:16
dkesselthat might work09:16
dkesseloh, no default package it seems...09:17
dkesseli am using "xfce4-fsguard-plugin" - are you using any, pleia2?09:19
pleia2that's the one09:21
pleia2shows up as "Free Space Checker" in the panel-add-stuff dialog09:22
pleia2but you're right, I had to install it, it's not a default package09:22
dkesseli will install it on all those systems next time i am on them... hopefully somebody will call me then before everything stops working next time...09:23
dkesselthis time, printing stopped suddenly... last time it was something else...09:23
Akxwi-davemorning all09:55
flocculanthi Akxwi-dave 10:41
bluesabreNoskcaj: feel free to make the changes. I'm guessing the fix is probably this, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+junk/catfish-daily-debian/view/head:/debian/rules#L711:11
flocculantbluesabre: I will do the testing call for 14.04 as soon as I see the images land at week end11:20
flocculantthen we'll have a couple of days before 16.04 beta11:21
bluesabreflocculant: cool, I'll have a new xubuntu-default-settings and catfish uploaded by the end of the week for 16.0411:24
bluesabredoing some package upgrade tests11:24
flocculantwe need really to make a call for some specific package tests I guess, after b1 would be best - be a mission to do that in between the two milestones11:26
Akxwi-davesounds good..11:28
bluesabreand some 14.04->16.04 upgrade tests, guessing we probably have those11:28
flocculantwe do 11:28
Akxwi-daveWas there any problems with the ppa's yesterday?  11:28
flocculantwe don't need to worry about 12.04 to 14.04 at least \o/11:28
bluesabreAkxwi-dave: what sort of problems?11:29
Akxwi-davetried updating my lappy but the ppas couldn't connect11:29
Akxwi-davewhen doing the apt-get update11:30
flocculantI had that momentarily on Monday I thought - though it could have been yesterday11:30
bluesabrecould be some canonical server issues11:30
bluesabrejust try again after a while11:30
Akxwi-daveI'll check again later11:30
Akxwi-daveIncidentally, I upgrade my daily laptop from 15.10 to 16.04 a wekek or too ago, and its running really good11:32
Akxwi-davenot come across any major problems.11:32
Akxwi-daveIn fact Civ 5 seems to run a lot better..  :-)11:32
bluesabreamd, nvidia, or intel gpu?11:33
Akxwi-daveIntel/Nividia 630M11:33
bluesabreusing prime, or just one of those?11:34
Akxwi-davetend to use the Nvidia using the Nvidia drivers11:34
bluesabreI'm usually wary to upgrade at the early parts of the cycle, usually have to blacklist nvidia to get anything to show up11:36
bluesabresince the kernel tends to move faster than the nvidia folks :)11:37
Akxwi-dave:-) Well as there was nothing on Tv, I thought I'd give it a bash...  I haave another hard drive with xubuntu on for the lappy if thing went wrong11:40
bluesabreUnit193: putting this here sort of as a note to myself, also need to move the 01_ubuntu.conf provided by the lightdm-gtk-greeter package for the moved xubuntu config to work12:00
bluesabrethis will probably affect any other lightdm-gtk-greeter config files12:01
bluesabreif anybody else ships them :)12:01
Unit193!find /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/ xenial12:02
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 7 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=/etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all12:02
Unit193!find /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/ xenial12:02
ubottuFile /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/ found in lightdm-gtk-greeter, lubuntu-default-settings, ubuntu-mate-lightdm-theme, xubuntu-default-settings12:02
bluesabreoh boy12:03
bluesabreand I've forgotten the reason, why are we moving configs out of etc?12:03
Unit193Wouldn't it not affect them if you put lightdm-gtk-greeter in usr?  It shouldn't affect the ones in etc as they should be higher priority anyway, no12:05
bluesabrethats a good point12:06
bluesabreI'll test that as well12:06
* bluesabre gives Unit193 a bag of cookies12:06
Unit193Small things like 01_xubuntu.conf aren't really made to be edited (session=xubuntu) as they can just either be selected on the greeter, or overridden by a config file in /etc/lightdm/12:08
Unit193Avoids marking them config and going through the purge vs remove thing, and upgrade questions.12:08
bluesabrecool, that's the good answer I was looking for12:09
Unit193I wonder if 30_xubuntu.conf should be trimmed down, though. :P12:10
bluesabreI'll take a look at it while cleaning it up and tidying up the ubuntu conf at the same time12:12
bluesabrelooks like I'll have to tweak the scripts a bit, 14.04 with customized greeter config does not migrate to 16.0412:21
bluesabrebut I'll work on that later12:22
bluesabretime to get ready for work, bbl12:22
Unit193Have fun.12:25
slickymasterWork!team | Next community meeting, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:00 UTC14:58
ubottuNext community meeting, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:00 UTC: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19314:58
flocculantthanks ubottu ... 15:04
flocculantslickymasterWork: now, are you completely sure which day it is on :D15:06
slickymasterWorknow I am, flocculant :D15:06
slickymasterWorkbut it took me a minute :P15:06
flocculantha ha 15:07
slickymasterWorkanyway calendar and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings updated15:07
slickymasterWorkteam calendar, that is15:08
flocculantyep 15:08
flocculantwas looking to see why ^^ that wasn't showing up - it wouldn't - it wasn't on trello yet :p15:09
dkesselthanks for scheduling slickymasterWork :) good choice of day/time, too15:17
slickymasterWorksure dkessel 15:17
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flocculantochosi: hopefully you saw the same with gnome-software, I'd be surprised if you didn't - could you confrim bug 154432522:31
ubottubug 1544325 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Installing gnome-software removes system-config-printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154432522:31
flocculantor indeed anyone who might have had a look :D22:31
flocculantbluesabre: perhaps you could look and confirm it :p22:36
flocculantif you've got brave enough yet 22:36
bluesabreflocculant: can check in a vm at least22:36
bluesabreplenty of snapshots recently :)22:37
Unit193Not in stock repos.22:37
flocculantbluesabre: yea - fails in vm - I'm not losing printer in my working xenial :D22:37
bluesabreoh? thought I saw it pop up today22:37
Unit193Just refreshed caches and no installation candidate.f22:37
flocculantppa still afaik 22:38
bluesabrealrighty then22:38
flocculantcheers m'dear22:38
bluesabreflocculant: I don't have system-config-printer installed (I do have -gnome installed though)22:43
bluesabrelooks like system-config-printer-gnome replaces it22:44
flocculantI couldn't see any printer tools when I looked22:44
knomepleia2, you likely saw my bug about the flavours (download) page?22:45
knomepleia2, just wanting to check with you if you are fine with that too - and if it's ok to replace the ubuntu wiki wikipage to that description too22:45
bluesabreflocculant: https://i.imgur.com/OGu9gme.png22:45
knomealphabetical, and the xubuntu description22:45
pleia2knome: yeah all good22:45
knomepleia2, good good :)22:45
flocculantbluesabre: so how you starting that? 22:46
knomebluesabre, "Software", what a nice app name :P22:46
bluesabreflocculant: searching for it in whisker22:46
bluesabreknome: welcome to gnome3 apps, killing off the proper name for generic name22:47
knomebluesabre, ugh22:47
bluesabreknome: and ignoring GenericName in the XDG spec22:47
knomebluesabre, i'm ok with the menu name being dumb, and the window title being dumb, but the about windowm REALLY?22:47
flocculantbluesabre: http://i.imgur.com/u0mEQcR.png22:47
knomeare the settings manager items still hidden in whisker?22:48
bluesabreflocculant: is that an older install?22:48
bluesabreknome: nope, present and accounted for22:48
flocculantbluesabre: yea - but updated etc22:48
knomei'm sure flocculant is running the y ISO already22:48
bluesabreflocculant: probably got lost at some point when that transition happened22:48
flocculantbluesabre: I'll redo it all now then22:49
flocculantbluesabre: I hope it is :)22:52
flocculantthough I still don't like the usc replacement :p22:52
bluesabreit might just be difficult to love a software center in general22:54
flocculantI guesas22:54
flocculantI can cope with synaptic 22:55
bluesabreit will probably be better once its patched up22:55
bluesabredoesn't take much to be better than USC ;)22:56
flocculantdoes it see packages yet?22:56
bluesabrerunning pkcon to see if I can make it see packages22:57
bluesabrepkconf update -d22:57
bluesabreis what I found on google anyway :D22:57
flocculantreally not going to add this to my daily xenial just yet :)23:35
bluesabreI wouldn't recommend this at this point23:38
flocculantnope 23:40
flocculantthat's two of us :)23:41
flocculantI suppose tomorrow I could grab a random (other than kde) flavour and see what goes on there23:41
flocculantthough I suppose anyone's fresh add-apt will fail - not just for us23:42
bluesabremine worked, and it wasn't very long before yours23:43
flocculantI'll wait till some have got updated builds in the morning - then critical fail all over the iso tracker :p23:45
flocculantI do like it when - *buntu fail23:47
flocculantwe can wait :)23:47
flocculantoh noes23:48
flocculantbluesabre: so yet another 14.04 xfpm thing - what's the best course of action here - try the ppa?23:52
bluesabrenow what's wrong?23:52
flocculantwho know's :|23:53
flocculant<Guillaume2> why when i close the cover of my laptop the login screen appear i login then the screen keep being black.  i have to reboot,. but when he goes on sleep with cover up he recover perfecly ? is there a solution for that problem. in fact if when i close the cover the screen only go off it will do the job. i don't want it to sleep23:54
flocculant[23:48:40] <Guillaume2> xubuntu 14.0423:54
flocculantbluesabre: that ^^23:54
bluesabreah that23:54
flocculantI just give up with pm stuff23:54
bluesabreeasiest solution23:54
flocculantthat'd be good 23:55
bluesabre"We are aware of some hardware/driver incompatabilities that were discovered after the release of 14.04. With limited resources, we are not able to test all combinations, and would recommend installing xscreensaver until the issue is addressed"23:56
bluesabreis probably what I would write23:56
bluesabreand/or some other locker software, gnome-screensaver as one23:57
bluesabrebeing unable to recreate the issue, we're really limited in fixing it23:57
bluesabreand some things just don't handle the VT switch well23:58
flocculantI could go 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh' 23:59
bluesabreI did that at "bluesabre: so yet another 14.04 xfpm thing - what's the best course of action here - try the ppa?"23:59
flocculantabout releasing when we have had 4 or 5 people telling us things :D23:59

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