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MylonSamsung A01-us00:28
MylonOld thing.  I've re-soldered the power connector on it.  Twice.  Came with a lot of crapware too.00:28
DarinMillerI hope samsung uses better supported touchpads than lenovo.  No matter what I change on the my Yoga2, it always detects my palm.  My dell laptop touchpad works perfectly (after a little tweaking).01:11
MylonThe touchpad on this is like 25% bigger than most so it's hard to type on the keyboard without touching the touchpad.01:13
geniiDarinMiller: If the xinput properties listed for the touchpad show a palm detection property, you could check to see if it's enabled01:15
MylonI have it enabled, but even after fiddling with the settings I can't make it work.  Not really sure which way to put the sliders.01:15
DarinMillerI have played with xinput in the past but none of the parameters I changed made any difference.  It's been 1.5 years since I've tried.  I will try again. Also, libinput does not work any better than xorg/synaptic.01:20
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MylonYeah, I can't figure out how the hell the touchpad settings work.03:40
MylonIf I increase speed slightly it becomes unusable, if I decrease it slightly it's slow as mollases.03:41
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rohanI'm on Kubuntu wily, and can't find how to start / open muon08:13
rohanI can't find it in the kickoff menu or in alt-f208:13
rohanany idea what could be going on?08:14
valorierohan: if you have discover, you can no longer have muon package manager08:16
valorieor vice-versa08:16
rohanvalorie: actually, i just noticed that muon-discover is not installed :-/08:16
rohanfeeling quite dumb08:16
rohani messed around with my system a bit.08:16
rohando you know how to install all the recommends of a package?08:16
valorieok, well, it's being renamed to plasma discover08:16
valorieright now muon package manager needs some work, but it can be installed if discover is gone08:17
rohanactually, i think i'm going crazy: http://pastebin.com/2ZQ2phwX08:17
valoriewow08:18
valoriethat's rather nuts08:18
valorieplease try `sudo apt install -f`08:19
valoriebut first do an update08:19
valorie-f means "fix"08:19
rohanstrange, i had to do an apt-get install --reinstall muon-discover08:20
rohani wonder how broken my system really is :(08:20
rohanvalorie: i did an upgrade, dist-upgrade, and an install -f08:20
valorieperhaps you removed some files manually or so?08:20
rohani sure hope not, i try not to touch managed files manually08:21
valoriegood advice for all08:21
rohani just did a ppa-purge for kubuntu-backports08:21
valoriehmmm, ok08:21
rohanbecause after installing backports, vlc was messed up08:21
rohanvideos wouldn't play right08:21
valorieah, all you need to do is change the skin for vlc08:21
rohanand dragon player crashed the system08:21
valorieah08:21
rohanvalorie: argh, that's all it would have took? :(08:21
rohanhow do i change the skin for vlc?08:22
valoriewell, then goodbye backports08:22
valorienot sure, I never use it, but I've seen that reported quite a few times here08:22
rohanvalorie: yeah, i figured with 16.04 just 2 months away, i can live with an older kde08:22
valoriewell, older plasma08:23
rohanright, keep forgetting the new terminlogy08:24
rohanit was much simpler in the kde 3 days :P08:24
rohani wonder if the kde 3 fork is still around08:24
rohantrident?08:24
rohanhttps://www.trinitydesktop.org/08:24
rohanlooks like it's alive and kicking! might give it a spin08:26
Retard_hi! I have a question about kubuntu amd drivers, is it good place to ask? Never used irc before ;/ ;)08:27
valorie!amd08:28
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:28
valorieplease change your nick; that is an insulting term08:28
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Ret__thank You for link. Generally I installed previous drivers and they worked; Now i tried to install new version, but I cannot uninstall previous one.08:32
valorieRet__: doesn't the driver manager do that automatically?08:42
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amichairon Kubuntu 15.10, several times a day the window manager crashes - I can see the windows but can't move them, switch between them, alt-tab etc. Is there any way to recover from this without killing all open applications?09:57
amichaircurrently I restart the sddm service, but then I lose all my work. And the second monitor goes blank and cannot be configured in system settings until a full reboot.09:59
hateballamichair: kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell10:03
nedoHi my friends, in a virtual machine i've installed kubuntu 15.10 i read on your site news about Plasma 5.5.3 i want to try it absolutely, i've added repository backport, sudo apr-get update sudo apt get upgrade, but at the reboot i have only black sreen there is some configuration file need to be edited?10:03
amichairhateball: I don't think it's plasmashell that's the problem, but the window manager10:03
hateballDo whatever you feel like10:04
amichair?10:05
amichairbtw, is 5.5.4 being backported too? Maybe they fixed something related.10:12
acheron88sddm can misbehave on the upgrade10:21
acheron88anything in /etc/sddm.conf ?10:22
stefanwamichair: try running "kwin_x11 --replace" when this happens10:23
acheron88one bug was it adding a 'placeholder' default session for sddm10:24
amichairstefanw: I'll try it next time it happens (likely within a few hours...) - thanks10:24
acheron88which caused sddm to fail to start in some cases, especially if trying to use autologon10:24
amichairacheron88: there is no /etc/sddm.conf, only /etc/sddm/Xsession10:25
acheron88ok. so not that bug then....10:25
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markitBefore I waste time dowloading 1.2GB of ISO, does recent daily build of 16.04 have the installer working? (some time ago just crashed with some errors)10:57
soee_hmm no idea11:00
markitno one trying 16.04? so strange11:18
hateballmarkit: it's in #ubuntu+111:19
hateball!xenial11:19
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+111:19
markitthanks hateball, did not know the existence of that channel11:21
soee_markit: the bug probably still is there11:22
hateballmarkit: :)11:22
soee_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/152945011:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1529450 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[master] AttributeError: 'PageKde' object has no attribute 'get_secureboot_key'" [Critical,Triaged]11:22
markitif they don't fix it, no one will test :(11:22
BluesKajHiyas all12:05
aboudreaultBluesKaj, Hey. I finally decided to switch netrunner to latest Kubuntu. It works like a charm now :)12:23
BluesKajaboudreault, good to hear, glad things are working out  :-)12:30
cristian_stavo provando applicazione messaggistica istantanea12:38
cristian_aggiunto account gmail ma all'avvio va in crash12:39
BluesKaj!it | cristian_12:43
ubottucristian_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:43
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fernando__???14:03
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Alina-malinahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/release/  hey all, which release should i download for my asus g53sx ?15:29
OerHeks64 bit, if that laptop has an i7 cpu15:30
Alina-malinayes15:31
Alina-malinais it ok if download file says desktop-amd64.iso?15:32
OerHeksyes, amd64 = 64 bit.15:32
Alina-malinaoh heh ok thanks, hope it wont lag on this laptop15:33
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azarusHello!17:26
soeehiho azarus17:28
azarusI just wanted to know about the future of Kubuntu, since Jonathan Riddell stepped down. Is Kubuntu going to be there in the future?17:28
azarusHeyo soee.17:29
soeeazarus: yes. devs are working now on 16.04 release.17:30
azarusAh, great to hear.17:30
azarusAny ETA's on it?17:30
geniiazarus: Third Thursday in April, sometime after 4pm GMT17:32
azarusThanks! Going to install kubuntu now. :P17:32
azarusI'm actually a newb to the KDE de, anything i should know?17:33
geniiazarus: If you plan to go to 16.04 later, probably best to install the 14.04 and not 15.10 and then later go straight from 14.04 to 16.04.1 when thet point release comes out ( typically June-July)17:34
azarusHm. I don't think i would mind doing a clean install if i had to, though.17:35
azarusI'm quite clean with my OS's, all i would have to do would be to copy my /home.17:36
azarusIs it not possible to dist-upgrade from a non-LTS release?17:38
geniiazarus: Usually from the one just prior. So in this case 15.10, but there have been some issues reported with this currently. All the other interim releases ( 14.10 and 15.04) are now End of Life and problemmatic to upgrade from17:43
azarusOK, got it. And another question, is there a real difference between Linux Mint KDE and Kubuntu?17:44
geniiazarus: If you run interim releases, you would normally have to go then in this case 14.10->15.04->15.10->16.04    whereas you can go straight from LTS to LTS, so 14.04->16.04.1 directly17:44
geniiazarus: Mint has their own repositories so when issues arise you need to consult their support and not Kubuntu17:45
azarusSure, but i mean in the overall user experience, since both are based of ubuntu.17:45
geniiazarus: I can't speak to that since I haven't run Mint before :)17:46
azarusAh, okay, no problem. X)17:46
genii...besides which, it's a fairly subjective question, even for those that have17:46
azarusTrue. I guess i'll just try them both and see which floats my boat.17:47
geniiThat's usually the best way17:47
azarusYeah. I'm currently writing the 15.10 Kubuntu Live USB to try it out.17:48
geniiazarus: First thing you may want to install is kubuntu-restricted-extras ( this will give you Flash for playing videos, some MS fonts, and other stuff which cannot be installed by default due to licensing or other issues)17:51
azarusSo: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"?17:51
genii!info kubuntu-restricted-extras17:52
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 64 (wily), package size 3 kB, installed size 30 kB17:52
azarusHm? That's new to me.17:52
geniiazarus: First you need to make sure that the multiverse repository is enabled, but yes17:52
azarusOk.17:52
azarusI'll be back, booting the Live USB.17:54
GreenDaygood evening from France!18:03
GreenDayamarok crashed18:03
GreenDay2 time18:03
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geniiGreenDay: Please start it by commandline in Konsole, and then make a pastebin of the output when it crashes, then give us the URL for the pastebin18:11
aboudreaultany idea what's wrong if for some applications we cannot see their systrays ?18:17
GreenDay[jeu. févr. 11 18:38:51 2016] nouveau E[    PBUS][0000:01:00.0] MMIO write of 0x00000001 FAULT at 0x4188ac [ IBUS ]18:17
GreenDaygenii: ok but now it works :/18:23
GreenDay:)18:23
geniiInteresting18:24
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GreenDaywhat is that software that display sysinfo on the wall paper?20:03
geniiGreenDay: There's a few different widgets that do that stuff. You can right-click on empty desktop, add a widget, then check out the ones on the default list to see if any of them there are what you're thinking of20:06
geniiGreenDay: If it's none of those, you can do the "Get New Widgets" option found there also20:07
acheron88could also be thinking of conky: https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky20:09
geniiYes, possibly20:11
geniiWithout a screenshot it's pretty difficult to tell :)20:11
acheron88yes20:11
geniiAlthough conky should be installed from repos and not from git20:12
acheron88normally, yes20:12
acheron88but if they did mean conky, I was going to link to this as yet unresolved issue with plasma 5: https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues/14520:16
acheron88which is mildly annoying20:16
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abel_hola21:52
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