| flocculant | sarnold: odd - works ok in this main install , add-apt that is | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| flocculant | and printers works too] | 00:25 |
| sarnold | flocculant: mdes laur recently did an openssl merge and I was curious if you tripped a regression, but when I went looking it worked fine.. hehe | 00:25 |
| sarnold | flocculant: can you get it to fail somewhere predictably? it may or may not be a regression, but the fact that I couldn't reproduce it made me think it's transient error of some sort | 00:26 |
| flocculant | not sure wth is going on - why would this all work on hardware with all manner of to'ings and fro'ings but not in vm | 00:27 |
| flocculant | sarnold: yea yea - understood : | 00:27 |
| flocculant | ) | 00:27 |
| flocculant | on main here - setting vm to main | 00:28 |
| flocculant | sarnold: same fail in vm | 00:29 |
| flocculant | *shrug* | 00:29 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, I dropped the packagekit dependency for the PPA version - do you know what is pulling it in? | 00:30 |
| flocculant | sarnold: unless it is yet again a vbox issue - in which case surely they are piling up now | 00:31 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: I'm now talking about the time it takes to repeat a command in terminal in vm against this hardware install | 00:32 |
| flocculant | would your change be that quick? | 00:32 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, I dropped the dependency yesterday, so I'm wondering if your bug is against an older version | 00:33 |
| flocculant | mmm | 00:33 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, I'm also currently updating dependencies in xenial so it will go directly in there. So then it might be worth purging the PPA and checking if you still have the issue. | 00:33 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: well I clean installed the vm, upgraded did the dist-upgrade it wanted, added the ppa then redid that and grabbed g-s, and while that was going - added ppa to this main install and did the same | 00:35 |
| flocculant | installed on hardware fine - failed in vbox | 00:35 |
| robert_ancell | flocculant, ok | 00:35 |
| robert_ancell | weird | 00:35 |
| flocculant | robert_ancell: happy enough to redo the vm stuff first tomorrow - see where it leaves me | 00:36 |
| flocculant | also happy enough to blitz this install - but need a while longer :) | 00:36 |
| flocculant | and yea - weird :) | 00:36 |
| flocculant | if it's an 'old xenial' upgrading to 'newer' then happy enough to wander away from it obviosly :) | 00:40 |
| sarnold | I don't know what other issue you're working on.. but uprades from 'old xenial' may do a good job replicating what users see when upgrading from wily.. | 00:41 |
| flocculant | sarnold: well - I grabbed the g-s ppa really early - so ... | 00:41 |
| flocculant | and frankly - if any of my testers said 'upgraded from old xenial' I'd say - re-install it | 00:43 |
| flocculant | but I try and do what I can to play edge stories and see what goes on - this broke - though it was ppa | 00:43 |
| flocculant | sarnold: actually - none of that actually matters now I think of it - add-apt failed twice in vm's - tomorrow morning I will do a clean install on hardware and see - without updating/grading the iso or install | 00:49 |
| flocculant | I'll report on the bug if needed | 00:50 |
| sarnold | flocculant: great, thanks! | 00:50 |
| flocculant | sarnold: I just want to make sure when I can :) | 00:52 |
| flocculant | just getting a bit lost in the logic of what I have - and trying to set up xubuntu for 2 milestones lol | 00:53 |
| flocculant | too many vm's and h'ware installs :) | 00:54 |
| sarnold | oof. i'm familiar with the problem. :) | 00:55 |
| flocculant | :) | 00:59 |
| flocculant | anyway - I'll try and pare it down and either invalid or 'dudesssss' it :) | 00:59 |
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| === \b is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| hikiko | Hi | 05:54 |
| desrt | hikiko: happy thursday | 07:10 |
| desrt | hello to everyone else, as well :) | 07:23 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:55 |
| larsu | morning! | 07:59 |
| pitti | hey larsu! | 08:00 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers pitti larsu | 08:08 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 08:08 |
| seb128 | oui, et toi ? | 08:09 |
| pitti | ça va, un peu fatigué comme tous les jeudi matins :) | 08:09 |
| seb128 | tu as joué au basketball hier ? | 08:10 |
| pitti | oui, c'était super ! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | moi j'ai joué au tennis, c'était bien aussi ! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | et je suis également un peu fatigué ce matin ;-) | 08:11 |
| * pitti ^5s seb128 | 08:11 | |
| * seb128 ^5s pitti back ;-) | 08:12 | |
| pitti | seb128: c'est la bonne sorte de fatigue :) | 08:12 |
| seb128 | oui ! | 08:12 |
| pitti | seb128: il ne fait pas trop froid pour tennis ? | 08:12 |
| pitti | il neige un peu ici, et il y a 2 degrees | 08:13 |
| seb128 | non ça va, il ne gèle pas | 08:13 |
| seb128 | bbiab, moving with the laptop to a coffee place for the morning | 08:20 |
| seb128 | back | 08:34 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, eog.mo is missing from the french langpacks, that keeps happening in xenial then it comes back at the next update, do you have any clue how to debug that? | 08:44 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:44 |
| TheMuso | Hey willcooke, hey folks. | 08:44 |
| willcooke | evening TheMuso | 08:44 |
| larsu | hi willcooke! | 08:45 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke TheMuso | 08:45 |
| larsu | hey TheMuso! | 08:45 |
| hikiko | heh :) happy Thursday desrt and pitti seb128 TheMuso willcooke larsu etc | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko, happy almost friday! | 08:47 |
| hikiko | hahahaha | 08:47 |
| larsu | thanks hikiko, you too! | 08:48 |
| TheMuso | Later folks. | 08:49 |
| seb128 | bye TheMuso | 08:51 |
| seb128 | enjoy your evening | 08:51 |
| * duflu never did get around to asking if TheMuso plays music :) | 08:52 | |
| duflu | Or maybe I did and don't remember because /UDS evenings/ | 08:53 |
| alexarnaud | Hi Ubuntu community ! | 08:56 |
| duflu | Hi alexarnaud | 08:58 |
| seb128 | hey alexarnaud | 09:01 |
| seb128 | good morning Laney! | 09:01 |
| Laney | MUHAHAHA | 09:03 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:03 |
| Laney | what's up | 09:03 |
| seb128 | just tried daily (which works!) and your ubiquity wk2, works as well! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | and sky is blue | 09:04 |
| seb128 | good start of day ;-) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | you? | 09:04 |
| Laney | I hear birds | 09:04 |
| Laney | and some daffodils are starting to come out | 09:05 |
| seb128 | spring? | 09:05 |
| Laney | could be! | 09:05 |
| andyrock | morning | 09:05 |
| seb128 | weeeiird | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock | 09:06 |
| seb128 | it's a season for snow :p | 09:06 |
| Laney | been a crap winter for snow so far | 09:08 |
| Laney | had about 1mm one time | 09:08 |
| alexarnaud | hey seb128 Laney duflu andyrock ! | 09:08 |
| alexarnaud | Laney: you are a geek poetry ^^ | 09:08 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 09:08 |
| alexarnaud | :) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, and we got gnome-software binaries in universe ;-) | 09:09 |
| Laney | indeed | 09:09 |
| seb128 | without fwdupdate/gcab/packagekit | 09:09 |
| seb128 | but still, a good first step ;-) | 09:09 |
| Laney | did you try them? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no, I'm waiting for that install to be done, it's uninstalling packages | 09:10 |
| seb128 | so almost there | 09:10 |
| seb128 | that's my next-on-the-list ;-) | 09:10 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, previous fires dealt with (for now) -- are they missing from the current langpacks? i. e. are my current logs/tarballs useful for debugging? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 09:17 |
| pitti | /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/eog.mo exists anyway | 09:17 |
| pitti | grep fr.*eog logs/xenial.log → nothing | 09:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15015106/ | 09:19 |
| pitti | it's there for plenty of other langs, though | 09:19 |
| seb128 | that's n-1 to current | 09:19 |
| * pitti compares the latest three deltas on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+language-packs | 09:20 | |
| willcooke | hikiko, Trevinho - do you have nVidia hardware? Suggestion that installing the proprietary nv drivers "break" u7.... https://plus.google.com/+PopescuSorin/posts/j8RPRvzMvbU | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: what do you mean with "n-1"? | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, nevermind | 09:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, the -de one lost devhelp | 09:21 |
| pitti | seb128: speaking of which, we should do a -base refresh | 09:21 |
| seb128 | but that might be a different issue | 09:21 |
| pitti | last one was in November | 09:21 |
| seb128 | Files in first .deb but not in second | 09:21 |
| seb128 | ------------------------------------- | 09:21 |
| seb128 | -rw-r--r-- root/root /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/devhelp.mo | 09:21 |
| seb128 | -rw-r--r-- root/root /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/gtkhtml-4.0.mo | 09:21 |
| seb128 | gtkhtml is normal | 09:21 |
| seb128 | that source is deprecated | 09:21 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:21 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, they are there in the tarball | 09:27 |
| hikiko | willcooke, I don't | 09:32 |
| hikiko | I have only integrated intels | 09:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, last time I looked (before the holidays) I couldn't find anything weird/buggy in the export | 09:34 |
| seb128 | do we have logs on the packs generation? | 09:34 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, on macquarie | 09:34 |
| pitti | seb128: I was just looking, fr/eog doesn't appear there at all -- as if it wasn't in the tarball (but it is) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | weird | 09:35 |
| pitti | seb128: you should have access to that | 09:35 |
| hikiko | willcooke, Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded means that he has no opengl, he needs to rm -r ~/.compiz-1 restart lightdm open ccsm and enable opengl, unityshell | 09:35 |
| willcooke | hikiko, would you mind commenting on that post? Or I can if you prefer | 09:36 |
| hikiko | sure | 09:36 |
| willcooke | thanks | 09:36 |
| willcooke | I'm mindful that we don't want to turn G+ in to a support forum, but that guy does a lot of good stuff for us | 09:36 |
| willcooke | so yes, pure favouritism ;) | 09:37 |
| larsu | G+ is still a thing? | 09:37 |
| * larsu giggles | 09:38 | |
| willcooke | :) | 09:38 |
| willcooke | It's a thing for Ubuntu users | 09:38 |
| willcooke | and Arduino | 09:38 |
| willcooke | and I think that's it | 09:38 |
| willcooke | it's quite nice really | 09:38 |
| pitti | and FOSS in general | 09:38 |
| pitti | less of a thing for exchanging cat pictures indeed | 09:39 |
| willcooke | ha! | 09:39 |
| pitti | I see electronic boards and beer bottles a LOT, though :) | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hope it stays one | 09:39 |
| seb128 | I hate having the world forced into a single choice | 09:39 |
| willcooke | ha, yes there are a lot of beer bottles. | 09:39 |
| willcooke | Goes along with FOSS I expect ;) | 09:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, gnome-software (sort-of) "works" | 09:41 |
| seb128 | the "all" tab lists firefox and transmission and that's it | 09:41 |
| seb128 | "installed" has a better list | 09:42 |
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| Laney | appstreamcli search . | 09:43 |
| pitti | why do we seed ubuntu-sso-client-qt? I didn't see that Qt client for ages | 09:43 |
| pitti | unseeding would apparently allow us to drop python-qt4 | 09:44 |
| pitti | which is two obsolete APIs in one package :) | 09:44 |
| seb128 | Laney, that list <things> | 09:44 |
| Laney | iz gnome-software boog then | 09:44 |
| Laney | sry | 09:44 |
| pitti | is that just a leftover from rhythmbox music or so? | 09:44 |
| seb128 | like search empathy or brasero works | 09:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, software-center | 09:45 |
| Laney | gnome-software --search robocode --verbose | 09:45 |
| seb128 | it does the auth for reviews | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, but shouldn't software-center depend on it then, rather than seedin git? | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: I just purged s-c to see how much that loses, was curious | 09:45 |
| seb128 | I guess we should yes | 09:46 |
| pitti | seb128: oh sorry, it already does | 09:46 |
| pitti | ... depend on it, I mean | 09:46 |
| seb128 | k | 09:46 |
| seb128 | makes sense | 09:46 |
| pitti | seb128: so is it ok if I unseed it? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | afaik yes | 09:46 |
| seb128 | maybe check with dobey | 09:46 |
| seb128 | he might know of something else using that I don't have in mind | 09:46 |
| pitti | it won't change the images/default install due to that dep anyway | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: ack, will do | 09:47 |
| seb128 | danke | 09:47 |
| pitti | dobey: can you think of a reason to still keep ubuntu-sso-client-qt seeded? software-center directly depends on it, but I don't see anything else using it | 09:47 |
| pitti | dobey: thus as soon as we unseed software-center, we could lose ubuntu-sso-client-qt and python-qt4 along with it | 09:47 |
| pitti | dobey: i. e. this should be a dependency only, not a first-class seeded package | 09:48 |
| pitti | desktop: * ubuntu-sso-client-qt # because software-center uses it for comments/purchases/oneconf, and there is no GTK+ edition | 09:48 |
| pitti | looks like it's only for s-c, as per seed history | 09:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15015186/ | 09:49 |
| pitti | and as it's a dep -> I'll drop it for now (I'll put it back if dobey objects0 | 09:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, +1 | 09:49 |
| Laney | seb128: is that incomplete? | 09:50 |
| Laney | it looks like it ends int he middle of a line | 09:50 |
| Laney | anyway I see it too here | 09:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, unsure why it truncated | 09:50 |
| Laney | app invalid as no pixbuf | 09:52 |
| Laney | this all worked before when we were at the sprint | 09:52 |
| Laney | larsu can confirm!!!! | 09:52 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 09:52 |
| seb128 | rob updated g-s to 3.19 though | 09:52 |
| Laney | guess that side broke things | 09:52 |
| seb128 | so maybe a bug in the new version | 09:52 |
| Laney | dunno why he didn't notice this though | 09:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, or maybe he did | 09:53 |
| seb128 | but he's getting things moving | 09:53 |
| seb128 | and going to fix it next | 09:53 |
| Laney | nein | 09:54 |
| Laney | eg bug #1542242 | 09:54 |
| ubot5` | bug 1542242 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Search doesnt return any results" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1542242 | 09:54 |
| seb128 | hum :-/ | 09:54 |
| seb128 | k, going offline for 10 minutes or so, walking back from the coffee place | 09:56 |
| Laney | watch out for those canals | 09:56 |
| Laney | damn | 09:56 |
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| hikiko | G+ is interesting :) I might start posting links to bug fixes and features.. | 10:10 |
| hikiko | I never look at it much :p | 10:10 |
| seb128 | back | 10:16 |
| Sweet5hark | moin all | 10:18 |
| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark | 10:18 |
| desrt | Sweet5hark: greetings | 10:18 |
| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark desrt | 10:18 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: 5.0.5~rc2 is at https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging -- havent smoketested that yet. | 10:18 |
| Sweet5hark | popey: libreoffice vanilla minimal is at https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-quantaltest-20120601 but likewise not tested yet in any way. (also not that 5.0.5 strictly speaking isnt finalized yet) | 10:19 |
| michael-vb | Hello. | 10:20 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, thanks for the autpkg fix, I just uploaded your update | 10:20 |
| michael-vb | seb128: for your information, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1543619 | 10:20 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1543619 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "unity-settings-daemon randr support has problems in virtual machines" [Undecided,New] | 10:20 |
| popey | thanks Sweet5hark | 10:20 |
| seb128 | michael-vb, thanks | 10:20 |
| larsu | Laney: hm? | 10:20 |
| * larsu was in a call | 10:20 | |
| michael-vb | seb128: we will work around it somehow, not least because we need to support distribution releases which are no longer regularly updated. | 10:20 |
| michael-vb | I may just be radical and delete that file with a warning when we find it. | 10:21 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: thanks a lot. and thank you for handling the hsqldb thing (*sigh*)! | 10:21 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, alright | 10:22 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, yw! | 10:22 |
| Sweet5hark | desrt: good mo ... wait *confused*-- good $(whatever time it is at your place) | 10:22 |
| seb128 | bbiab | 10:22 |
| desrt | Sweet5hark: still in .de :) | 10:25 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: speaking of .de, I'm in Hamburg right now :) | 10:47 |
| * Laney wants a hamburger | 10:47 | |
| * Laney chews on Sweet5hark | 10:47 | |
| * larsu eyes to the street below | 10:47 | |
| * Sweet5hark tastes aweful. | 10:48 | |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: oh, cool. How long will you be around? | 10:49 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: how do you know? | 10:49 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: Im bitter. | 10:49 |
| Sweet5hark | ;) | 10:49 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: only until the early evening (picking up Faina as we hadn't seen each other for a while) | 10:49 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: otherwise I would have let you known sooner and asked for a beer ;) | 10:50 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: right, my thoughts exactly ;) | 10:52 |
| Laney | seb128: fixed that icon thing | 11:53 |
| Laney | everything is non-free and 3rd party but hey ho | 11:54 |
| larsu | Laney: icons broke (again)? | 11:55 |
| Laney | yeah who knows why | 11:55 |
| * larsu shrufs | 11:56 | |
| larsu | *shrugs | 11:56 |
| larsu | did I ever mention that I hate the way we do icons? | 11:56 |
| Laney | nah this is appstream side | 11:58 |
| Laney | for uninstalled things | 11:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, well done! | 12:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you get anywhere with the langpack issue? | 12:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, dunno what changed but now I get gnome-software listing categories but no selection and the categories are mostly empty | 12:34 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, no, got diverted | 12:35 |
| Laney | that's what happened before no? | 12:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, this morning I had http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gnomesoftware.png | 12:35 |
| seb128 | now I've no icon but a grid of categories, when clicking on those I get subcategories on the left side and nothing on the right | 12:36 |
| Laney | k, didn't look like that for me | 12:36 |
| seb128 | k | 12:36 |
| seb128 | is your fix server side? | 12:36 |
| seb128 | or something to upload/update? | 12:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, there was some other discussions ongoing so I was unsure if I had missed something | 12:37 |
| Laney | look on the bug, just attached a patch | 12:37 |
| Laney | you can try it if you want | 12:38 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:39 |
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| === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
| dobey | pitti: imo, no; not sure why it specifically was seeded | 13:53 |
| willcooke | desktoppers: via davidcalle - http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/liveblog-scientists-announce-major-gravitational-wave-finding/ | 14:04 |
| willcooke | I AM IN UR FACILITY. DETECTING YOUR GRAVITATIONAL WAVES | 14:04 |
| seb128 | woooot | 14:07 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, your path change does the trick ;-) | 14:07 |
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| pitti | willcooke: wasn't that supposed to be announced in an hour and a quarter from now? | 14:14 |
| pitti | oh, there's a countdown | 14:14 |
| larsu | crazy times. A countdown :) | 14:24 |
| * pitti can already hear it.. | 14:24 | |
| larsu | the waves? ;) | 14:24 |
| pitti | "Red Alert! Captain, a gravitational wave of magnitude 7 is approaching us. Evasive manœuvers!" | 14:25 |
| larsu | hehe | 14:25 |
| desrt | pitti: they would definitely have said "graviton" there | 14:25 |
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| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr | ||
| Sweet5hark | seb128: oh, i386 build for libreoffice in proposed says "failed" but doesnt have a log ... | 16:36 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: (while it even build on powerpc/ppc64el/s390x just fine, so seems to be a transient failure) | 16:37 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: just restart that? | 16:38 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, done | 16:39 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: thx! | 16:39 |
| seb128 | yw! | 16:39 |
| seb128 | time for some exercice, bbl | 16:50 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: what's bbl? | 16:56 |
| alexarnaud | baseball? | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | close :) | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | "be back later" ;) | 16:57 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, I'm just about to upload Firefox builds with telemetry enabled to https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next. I'm going to turn publishing off until I've verified it works as expected (just in case you wonder what's going on) | 17:33 |
| alexarnaud | ogra_: oh, well. I know AFK only ^^. | 17:43 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, are you going to take beta5 or the current beta4? | 17:51 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, happened to all ppa builds too :\ | 17:52 |
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| Laney | goodnight! | 18:06 |
| Laney | off to the theatre | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, the current beta4 (it's a new tarball though, as it needs to embed the source revision) | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1233687 | 18:17 |
| ubot5` | Mozilla bug 1233687 in Telemetry "[meta] Ubuntu Firefox builds don't send Telemetry" [Normal,New] | 18:17 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, ah, I see | 18:21 |
| willcooke | g'night all, off to Beavers | 18:21 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, I assume you finished this within the next 11 hours (in time for beta 5)? | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, fingers crossed | 18:24 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, hmm, ok | 18:30 |
| bschaefer | hello, was wondering if anyone could give this package some love :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/capnproto/0.5.3-2ubuntu1 | 20:51 |
| TheMuso | duflu: I do/did. Haven't really played in a while for various reasons, although looking to get back into it. | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | bschaefer, what's the issue? | 21:20 |
| bschaefer | robert_ancell, mainly just would like the 0.5.3 in xenial rather then proposed to get proper cmake/pkg packaging changes | 21:22 |
| robert_ancell | bschaefer, according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html it should have migrated - I don't know what's holding it back | 21:22 |
| bschaefer | robert_ancell, bregma pointed out a rdepends on unity-scopes-api but it looks like it should just need a rebuild | 21:22 |
| bschaefer | but yeah other then that... it seemed to pass everything, but seems like a low priority | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | bschaefer, then I'd expect the excuses page to give that as a reason :/ | 21:23 |
| bschaefer | true, not really sure whats holding it back :( | 21:23 |
| bschaefer | figured maybe someone in desktop would know | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | that's the end of my knowledge in -proposed migration. Perhaps RAOF might know | 21:24 |
| bschaefer | o cool, ill be sure to poke him when he gets on | 21:24 |
| bschaefer | thanks! | 21:24 |
| dobey | bschaefer: it's been a painful migration | 21:27 |
| dobey | bschaefer: new capnproto caused unity-scopes-api to break, and new jsoncpp caused unity-scopes-api and some other packages to break | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | aww dang :( | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | was worried about that | 21:28 |
| dobey | well, that's what happens with abi breaks :) | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | its not a requirement, just makes things simpler :) | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | yup! | 21:28 |
| dobey | bschaefer: anyway, the necessary rdepends should be uploaded to proposed now, so should just be a matter of time for launchpad and autopkgtests to catch up and let things through | 21:29 |
| dobey | (i've been dealing with that the past few days) | 21:30 |
| bschaefer | o thats good to hear. Thanks for the information and battling with the ABI break :) | 21:30 |
| dobey | (well, me and a couple others on my team, i can't take all the credit :) | 21:31 |
| bschaefer | :) | 21:32 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, I'm looking at changing the name of the lightdm session for Unity 8 (removing the -mir, because it's Mir all the way down now) but when I do, stuff stops working... it seems the session name is always derived from the name of the session file instead of the user-session string inside the session file | 21:40 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, would you suggest any simple way around that? | 21:40 |
| * bregma find the above description confusing and apologizes in advance | 21:41 | |
| robert_ancell | bregma, yeah, not sure exactly what you're getting at there. What is the "session name" exactly? $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP? $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP? | 21:42 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, in short, you can rename the session file to anything you like, though you will break existing logins as they will use the old name | 21:43 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, $DESKTOP_SESSION | 21:43 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, right, nothing *should* be using that anymore | 21:43 |
| bregma | well, it's used by the Unity 8 upstart job to only start Unity 8 when it's a Unity 8 session | 21:45 |
| bregma | is there a better way? | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, you should set DesktopNames in the .desktop file to have any keys you might want | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | So you'd probably do DesktopNames=Unity;Unity8 | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | So existing stuff that checked for Unity would still work and new stuff could check for Unity8 | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | That gets exposed as (the confusingly named) $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | 21:47 |
| robert_ancell | caveat, I bet there's a bunch of software that doesn't correctly check it as a list instead doing basically strcmp (getenv ("XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP"), "Unity") == 0 | 21:48 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, all that matters here really is the upstart job to start the desktop session, so it's worth playing with, thanks | 21:48 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, do you know where the appstream code is that set the origin of an app, e.g. "xenial-main" | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | ? | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, because I've found the issue that the apps say they're third party - we need a plugin to mark them as not (Debian will need one too) | 22:09 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: which kind of origin do you mean exactly? The AppStream metadata origin, or the candidate origin (= repository in case of distro packages)? | 22:10 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, appstream metadata origin | 22:10 |
| robert_ancell | which is used as the origin for the GsApp and is what is used by the Fedora plugin to determine if they came from Fedora | 22:10 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: did you discuss that with hughsie? That sounds a bit short-sighted to me... | 22:10 |
| ximion | ah, if the Fedora plugin does it, we must do the same, since it appears to be the preferred way then... | 22:11 |
| ximion | and yes, I would like to have that plugin in Debian too, maybe we could even add it upstream | 22:11 |
| ximion | I just know the origin stuff for libappstream | 22:12 |
| * ximion check appstream-glib | 22:12 | |
| ximion | but I think checking AppStream data will be insufficient, since AppStream metadata can come from anywhere, including 3rd-party sources | 22:12 |
| ximion | I think what you really want is to check for the PackageKit repository software originates from... | 22:13 |
| ximion | in a package-id, that is the last part of the pkg;version;arch;data triplet (data == repository, unless installed, then it's an "installed" string) | 22:14 |
| ximion | in GS, you should receive an origin of the software component via the gs_app_get_source_id_default () call, btw | 22:14 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: ^ | 22:15 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, yeah, the packagekit plugin also seems to set origin | 22:15 |
| ximion | AppStream doesn't know or care about where the software it provides metadata for comes from - but tools like PackageKit, XdgApp and Limba do have that knowledge | 22:16 |
| ximion | hah! The GS code just gave me an idea how I could improve the PK aptcc backend :-) | 22:18 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: I don't like that this code is in a distro-specific plugin - maybe we can convince hughsie to make this a config file which distributors can ship? | 22:25 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, I guess it depends if we can simply define what consitutes a supported package. | 22:26 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: supported package == anything in the distributors official repositories | 22:26 |
| ximion | 3rd-party: anything else | 22:27 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, it seems like a maintainence issue to keep updating the whitelist of supported things | 22:28 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: if we would do things right, PackageKit would provide that information, and either have it in its backend, or query APT for it | 22:30 |
| ximion | ideally, a client tool like GS shouldn't contain any distribution-specific stuff, and hardcoded lists are especially evil | 22:33 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 22:33 |
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