[00:03] <giacomo1992> hello, is it possible to install ubuntu touch on a huawei smartphone ?
[00:16] <zhuowei> The new BQ Aquaris 10 tablet uses a 64-bit chip; are the changes required to use a 64-bit Android BSP publically available?
[01:23] <zhuowei> I'm interested in porting Ubuntu Touch to the Nexus 6P, which is 64-bit; I saw that in September there were discussions on supporting 64-bit devices; has that been added yet?
[03:00] <Faryshta> hi, has anyone installed ubuntu phone on xperia z1?
[05:44] <Hipe9> What devices is it possible to install ubuntu touch on?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Hipe9
[05:45] <ubot5`> Hipe9: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Hipe9: you can buy devices with ubuntu touch on also, like BQ
[05:46] <Hipe9> Mmm
[05:46] <Hipe9> noticed lenovo is impossible
[05:47] <Hipe9> O well.
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Get Out Your Guitar Day! 😃
[09:52] <k1l_> but… i dont have a guitar :/
[09:54] <MCMiic> k1l_: You must have missed the Buy a Guitar Day
[09:54] <k1l_> hihi
[09:55] <Mikaela> JamesTait: you forgot check your fire alarm day
[09:55]  * JamesTait chuckles at MCMiic 
[09:56] <JamesTait> Mikaela, I have someone who does that for me (it's a monitored system, so if I do it myself I get the fire brigade at my house).
[09:57] <JamesTait> Which all sounds terribly fancy, but it's because my wife has epilepsy.
[10:02] <tathhu_> *ello
[10:14] <EdwardMorbius> hello, is there any documentation out there about Snappy concepts for future Snappy Desktop?
[10:33] <anmol_> hi
[10:33] <anmol_> anyone here ?
[10:33] <anmol_> i have nexus 4 which ubuntu touch version should i install to test convergence ?
[10:34] <anmol_> anyone ?
[10:34] <anmol_> there ?
[10:35] <MCMiic> patient guy
[10:39] <Smurphy> yep.
[10:39] <tathhu_> :)
[10:39] <Smurphy> Hey you, help me. Now. NOW !
[10:39] <Smurphy> Oh, you don't want to ? I leave. Bye
[10:39] <Smurphy> :}
[10:39] <tathhu_> Awesome.
[10:43] <EdwardMorbius> I am still waiting patiently though >:D
[10:46] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, not really, apart from "it will be a wonderful and bright future" :)
[10:47] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ oh :( I hoped to write an article about Snappy on a local Linux portal, even if it is only conceptual, I know a few things that were said before about it but not enough for an article.
[10:47] <EdwardMorbius> but I hope for that bright future :D
[10:47] <ogra_> snappy is a completely new type of distro setup (beyond being a packaging tool, a config tool for packages and an install variant) ... it still didnt realloy grow into the graphical area yet
[10:48] <MCMiic> What is Snappy?
[10:48] <ogra_> snappy is a completely new type of distro setup (beyond being a packaging tool, a config tool for packages and an install variant) ... it still didnt realloy grow into the graphical area yet
[10:48] <ogra_> :P
[10:48] <EdwardMorbius> I am guessing phones will get to Snappy faster than desktop right
[10:48] <MCMiic> :-)
[10:49] <MCMiic> I’m a bit sad that ubuntu phone store is not based on apt btw
[10:49] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, most likely you will see support for snap packages on the phone soon (smply because all developer manpower goes into snappy and "click" is rather in maintenance mode) ... waether you will see a full snappy install soon really depends on the progress
[10:51] <ogra_> for now snappy focuses on headless systems (servers, IoT, robots etc) ... there are initial moves to get Mir to work and allow you to run single graphical apps in kiosk mode under Mir
[10:51] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ will that also mean that when snaps come to the phones that also means snap versions of x apps for convergence?
[10:51] <ogra_> with 16.04 the base system will be in a more final state ... then higher level work will start
[10:52] <ogra_> any app you can imagine ;)
[10:53] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ great :D which also means we will be able to start an x application on phones in the future? via xmir, I seen demos of people doing it now, but no "gui" way for it.
[10:53] <ogra_> you are able to do that today
[10:53] <EdwardMorbius> I know but currently there is no "user friendly" way to do it
[10:53] <ogra_> the converged tablet that will come out soon even has libreoffice, firefox, xchat and gedit preinstalled afaik
[10:54] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, btw ... there is #snappy too
[10:57] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ yes I will check it out, one last question :) will x apps in form of snaps eventually find their way in the ubuntu store for phones?
[10:58] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, snappy apps already are in the same store :) it is just that the phone doesnt consume them ... https://uappexplorer.com/apps?type=snappy
[10:58] <jjardon> Hi, what ubuntu-touch uses; NetworkManager or connman? Ofono or ModemManager?
[10:58] <ogra_> also for more info about snappy (and the current state) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuwdpnEbZU is a good watch
[10:58] <ogra_> jjardon, NM and ofono
[10:58] <Smurphy> Hmmm. So I wrote script that converts m3u files into playlist for the Music app ...
[10:59] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ yes I saw those, what I meant will firefox and stuff like that end up in the store. thanks I will check the video :)
[10:59] <Smurphy> And it actually works. Only m3u files are a b*tch, especially when created for vfat/Windows based systems *shrug*
[10:59] <jjardon> ogra_: Do you know if there is a doc somewhere that document that decision?
[10:59] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, if someone packages them ;) .... snap packages are like PPAs ... so i would expect you even to find ten firefoxes and ten libreoffices at some point ;)
[11:00] <ogra_> jjardon, while i think that exists, i wouldnt know where
[11:00] <ogra_> jjardon, modemmanager cant easily interact with rild though ... so there was no way to use it
[11:01] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ thanks :)
[11:01] <ogra_> jjardon, and NM i guess simply because of convergence ...
[11:02] <jjardon> ah, thanks for the ridl pooint; thats the android interface, rigth?
[11:02] <ogra_> yeah
[11:02] <ogra_> the only way to talk to the modem
[11:03] <ogra_> (and while standardized, every vendor adds his own hacks to it to make life harder ;) )
[11:33] <daker> hello, something really wired happened to my phone, it was seating off for months now that i have switch it on, i can't unlock it, the lockscreen says i need to wait 24125939 minutes :D
[11:44] <jibel> daker, the RTC probably reset to the epoch. IIRC it has been fixed, do you remember which version it was running?
[11:49] <daker> jibel: i don't, i was able to unlock yesterday and start the system settings app, and it did show me like a 300mo update
[11:52] <daker> ah i see you are right
[11:55] <jibel> daker, if you can login (ssh or adt) you can sudo hwclock <some options> to set the hw date and also ntpdate -b ntp.ubuntu.com to fix the system clock, it should be fine on reboot if the rtc is not reset again
[11:55] <jibel> adb*
[11:57] <ogra_> jibel, there seems to be a bug in the initrd's fixrtc script though ... someone shoudl check it
[11:59] <jibel> ogra_, definitely. For the same reason setting the date manually doesn't stick. I filed a bug a while ago, but it's been overlooked apparently.
[11:59] <jibel> ogra_, do you know where I can find the source of this script?
[12:00] <ogra_> jibel, initramfs-tools package source
[12:00] <jibel> ogra_, from what I remember it was either fixrtc or the kernel
[12:00] <ogra_> yeah
[12:00] <ogra_> well, fixrtc should always force it regardless
[12:01] <ogra_> (you even have the script installed in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-premount/fixrtc ;) )
[12:13] <daker> i can't seems to access adb shell or ssh into the phone with my password
[12:14] <daker> $ adb shell
[12:14] <daker> error: closed
[12:15] <ogra_> daker, screen unlocked ?
[12:15] <daker> no i can't unlock the screen, i am facing the epoch bug
[12:15] <jibel> ogra_, he cannot
[12:15] <ogra_> ouch
[12:15] <daker> :D
[12:16] <daker> ogra_: does the clock impact the ssh server ?
[12:16] <jibel> daker, what is the device?
[12:16] <ogra_> reboot to recovery, touch /userdata/.adb_onlock (or was it /data ? )
[12:16] <daker> jibel: Nexus4
[12:16] <ogra_> then reboot again and adb should let you in
[12:16] <jibel> daker, has ogra_ said, boot into recovery
[12:18] <daker> ogra_: i am in recovert now, how do i touch /userdata/.adb_onlock ?
[12:19] <ogra_> its years that i did that last ... (well, more than one year at least) ... iirc you need to mount /data if it isnt mounted (or /userdata, i really cant remember) ... and then just touch
[12:19] <ogra_> (using the touch command :) )
[12:21] <popey> it's /data
[12:21] <popey> or did you change it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-tools/+bug/1414288
[12:21] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1414288 in android-tools (Ubuntu) "adbd falsely looks for /data/.adb_onlock to override the screen lock check" [Critical,Fix released]
[12:26] <jibel> ogra_, I don't have the fixrtc script on mako and arale
[12:27] <jibel> ogra_, Ive fixrtc.hooks.diverted and fixrtc.local.premount.diverted in /usr/share/initramfs-tools
[12:27] <jibel> and that's all
[12:28] <ogra_> weird
[12:29] <ogra_> popey, it depends how in-sync the fstabs are ... iirc /userdata is /data on some devices in recovery while it is /userdata on the actual system
[12:29] <popey> ah
[12:30] <jibel> ogra_, that would explain why the script doesn't do its job if it is not there
[12:30] <ogra_> jibel, yeah
[12:31] <jibel> if I copy the job to the expected location, set the hwclock to something completely wrong, it should be correct on reboot
[12:31] <jibel> s/job/script/
[12:31] <ogra_> yeah
[12:34] <jibel> ogra_, I suppose I need the hook to in the hooks/ directory?
[12:34] <jibel> too*
[12:36] <daker> ogra_: i am lost, how do i mount the /data ?
[12:36] <ogra_> jibel, yeah
[12:36] <ogra_> daker, "mount /data" in the recvovery adb console (if it isnt mounted yet)
[12:39] <daker> ogra_: nice got it
[12:43] <daker> jibel: hmm  2 Jan 16:14:15 ntpdate[3858]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[12:46] <daker> maybe the ntp packets are being blocked by the firewall
[12:49] <becku> hello
[12:51] <becku>  I get no import contacts in telegram.  can anybody help me
[12:58] <daker> ogra_ jibel fixed :D thanks!
[12:59] <ogra_> :D
[13:00] <daker> jibel: it's r327
[13:04] <matv1> becku there is an option in the telegram menu -> Contacts. Then hit + in the contact page menu. you will be prompted to select from local Contacts app or enter details manualy
[13:05] <matv1> becku do you not have that?
[13:06] <becku> yes
[13:06] <becku> matv1:   I got it now , took a long time to import
[13:06] <becku> thanks!
[13:07] <matv1> becku np. glad it worked :)
[13:07] <becku>  but it has no rotation telegram
[13:07] <becku>  because even you can not use whatsapp ?
[13:07] <matv1> becku not sure what you mean ?
[13:08] <becku> whatsapp not in ubuntu?
[13:08] <becku> sorry for my bad english
[13:09] <matv1> correct. there is no whatsapp on Ubuntu
[13:09] <matv1> haha no problem
[13:09] <k1l_> becku: you need to ask whatsapp to support ubuntu
[13:10] <becku> :/
[13:10] <matv1> becku also you could add your vote on: https://uappexplorer.com/wishlist
[13:10] <becku> ok
[13:10] <becku> thanks
[13:10] <becku> i go
[13:35] <popey> daker: about your date/time issue - be thankful you're not on iOS :) https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/458ao3/discussion_changing_time_date_settings_to_jan_1/
[13:35] <popey> (change date/time on ios to 1970 will brick the device)
[14:04] <daker> popey: oh
[14:14] <mterry> pitti, read your responses to the pam langpack-o-matic thing.  I would have expected the seeds to be in the usual place
[14:15] <pitti> mterry: well, except that they aren't -- not at https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds
[14:15] <pitti> mterry: or 15.04 RTM is using the vivid seed
[14:15] <pitti> but that seems fairly old to be plausible
[14:16] <mterry> hrm
[14:16] <pitti> and if it's really that old, we can just symlink pkglist-touch-15.04 to pkglist-touch-vivid
[14:16] <mterry> pitti, it's not lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.vivid ?
[14:16] <pitti> mterry: that's the one which hasn't been changed in 10 months
[14:17] <pitti> mterry: I don't know, perhaps it is
[14:17] <mterry> pitti, ah.  Well that might be plausible
[14:17] <pitti> someone here ought to know
[14:17] <mterry> pitti, how often do we seed new things?  (vs depending)
[14:17] <pitti> I suppose not that often, but I'm not a touch developer
[14:17] <mterry> pitti, I have to leave for a dentist appt, but can pick this up later
[14:17] <mterry> pitti, I'd say 10 months is plausible
[14:18] <pitti> mterry: so, the other question is why pam isn't in the germinate list, this needs some debugging
[14:18] <pitti> mterry: argh dentist, good luck!
[14:18] <mterry> pitti, yeah thanks, I can try to dig into that when I get back -- didn't even consider that the maps were generated, which is dumb of me when it comes to seed packages.  Everything is generated!  :)
[14:19] <pitti> at least it's much easier to maintain that way
[14:31] <mariogrip> mhall119_: ping
[14:36] <mhall119_> mariogrip: pong
[14:36] <mariogrip> mhall119_: did you install the stable version?
[14:37] <mhall119> rev 2?
[14:37] <mariogrip> yeah
[14:38] <mhall119> yeah, it wouldn't booth, maliit-server and unity8-dash kept crashing and re-spawning over and over
[14:38] <mhall119> between that and apport trying to do something with the crash, it hangs and drains the battery
[14:38] <mariogrip> did something appear on the screen?
[14:38] <mhall119> system-image-dbus was using a lot fo CPU too
[14:38] <mhall119> mariogrip: the boot splash
[14:40] <mariogrip> ok, i'll push a new version, I was just checking if the stable version has support for 5.1
[16:20] <bshah> sil2100: hi
[16:29] <sil2100> bshah: hey
[16:29] <bshah> sil2100: umm, patch you gave me in query is give 404
[16:29] <sil2100> uuuu
[16:29] <sil2100> hmmmm
[16:29] <sil2100> Oh, maybe because I pushed a new version
[16:30] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-system-image/server_uncompressed-initrd/+merge/285374/+preview-diff/693942/+files/preview.diff
[16:30] <sil2100> Anyway, here's the MP (not finalized, missing 2 tests)
[16:30] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-system-image/server_uncompressed-initrd/+merge/285374
[16:31] <bshah> okay.. will test tomorrow morning
[16:31] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[18:33] <mhall119> mariogrip: I think there's still something wrong with starting lightdm, I've managed to get into unity8 once by running your lightdm stop/chmod/start script at just the right time, but otherwise it just gets stuck trying to launch dbus-daemons
[18:38] <mariogrip> mhall119: Yeah, I don't think it installed correctly from system image, can you do "cat /etc/system-image/channel.ini "
[18:39] <mhall119> nope, that file doesn't exist
[18:39] <mariogrip> mhall119: ah, it didn't install at all
[18:39] <mhall119> well, u-d-f thought it did
[18:40] <mariogrip> mhall119: it is probably running the version that was already installed.
[18:41] <mhall119> that would explain some things
[18:42] <mhall119> mariogrip: ok, so how do I force it to install the latest images?
[18:42] <mariogrip> mhall119: anyway, download this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/70-FP2.rules and adb shell then mount -o rw,remount / then exit then adb push 70-FP2.rules /usr/lib/lxc-android-config
[18:43] <mariogrip> then adb reboot :)
[18:43] <mhall119> what does that do?
[18:43] <mariogrip> mhall119: fix permissions
[18:44] <mhall119> for lightdm?
[18:44] <mariogrip> jup
[18:45] <mhall119> ok, gotta wait for it to charge up a bit again before it'll reboot
[18:52] <mhall119> mariogrip: ok, it booted up fine this time, now I need to update it to the latest images, can I just u-d-f again, or do I need to do something different?
[18:52] <mariogrip> mhall119: you need to update it using recovery, I have an new version ready soon
[18:53]  * mhall119 will be back in a few minutes, going to run out and pickup some lunch
[18:53] <mhall119> mariogrip: let me know when it's ready and how to install it
[18:53] <mariogrip> mhall119: ack
[19:09] <CheeryLee> Hello everyone! Tell me please: iniramfs in the kernel are the same on all devices?
[19:25] <jrolland-ubuntu> me
[20:32] <mariogrip> mhall119: here: /home/mariogrip/Dropbox/Public/ubuntu/fp2/system.img.tar.xz
[20:32] <mariogrip> ops: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/system.img.tar.xz
[20:32] <mariogrip> wait, this one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/android.img.tar.xz
[20:33] <mariogrip> and this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/boot.img
[20:33] <mariogrip> so, reboot to recovery
[20:33] <mariogrip> adb shell "mount /data"
[20:33] <mariogrip> adb push android.img /data
[20:34] <mariogrip> on recovery ui: choose "Ubuntu actions" -> "replace system.img" -> Choose android.img
[20:34] <mariogrip> then reboot to fastboot and flash boot.img
[22:44] <Mujisiro> Hello guys, did anyone succesfully install ubuntu touch on an lg g2?