[01:23] <shantorn> good evening
[03:09] <shantorn> good evening folks
[03:53] <valorie> hi shantorn
[03:54] <shantorn> well hi there, how was your day?
[03:54] <valorie> pretty good
[03:54] <valorie> just got done watching an amazing documetary, Alive Inside
[03:55] <valorie> about the power of music for older folks, esp. those with Alzheimers
[03:55] <shantorn> thats great, this group is a small one, is the lug or the wa ubuntu users group very large?
[03:55] <shantorn> that does sound interesting, did they explain  aproccess that would help them not deteriorate like so many older people do?
[03:56] <valorie> shantorn: it used to be pretty big, when it was Ubuntu PNW
[03:56] <valorie> then Ubuntu decided that it had to be state by state
[03:57] <valorie> we've never really gotten it off the ground since it was split
[03:57] <valorie> Salt tried for awhile, Linda tried, I tried....
[03:57] <valorie> I'm really active with Kubuntu and KDE and gave up being the person trying to drive this
[03:58] <valorie> I will go to meetings, but I will no longer set 'em up
[03:58] <valorie> my own dad is in a nursing home, and I visit him every other night
[03:58] <shantorn> thats to bad it was split
[03:58] <valorie> and that sort of sucks up my time and energy now
[03:58] <shantorn> thats so much more important!
[03:58] <shantorn> its an effort well spent i would have to say
[03:59] <valorie> yea, we try to still stay involved with Portland folks
[03:59] <valorie> they usually come up for LFNW
[03:59] <shantorn> i live in longview, about 50 miles from portlandd
[03:59] <valorie> and some of us try to go to OSCON
[03:59] <valorie> my son-in-law is from Longview/Kelso
[04:00] <shantorn> i sued to attend oscon but 1200 bucks or more is hard to come up with now that i am disabled
[04:00] <valorie> I only went to staff the table
[04:00] <valorie> no way will I pay that money
[04:01] <shantorn> and now just the vendor hall is 50 bucks, thats just rude to charge for people to advertise their stuff to me
[04:01] <valorie> bizarre
[04:01] <valorie> I've not gone for a few years
[04:01] <valorie> too corporate
[04:01] <valorie> lfnw is still awesome though
[04:01] <valorie> SeaGL was pretty good too
[04:02] <valorie> Scarlett came up for that, and we shared a table
[04:02] <shantorn> i would love to attend that, i listened to LAS telling aobut it, sounds wonderful
[04:02] <valorie> #lfnw
[04:02] <shantorn> LFNW that is
[04:02] <shantorn> yes
[04:06] <shantorn> well thanks for chiming in for a few valoq
[04:06] <shantorn> valorie, *
[04:07] <valorie> I'll see you at LFNW I hope!
[04:09] <shantorn> sure would be neat