[05:44] <Kilos> morning inetpro dlPhreak_ anton_may thatgraemeguy unlaudable superfly aquarat and other lurkers
[05:44] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[05:45] <superfly> Morning Kilos 
[05:45] <anton_may> wazzup kilos
[05:49] <unlaudable> morning, anyone at Suse expert days today?
[05:51] <unlaudable> laters...
[06:16] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:39] <inetpro> morgen
[07:08] <dlPhreak_> Morning Kilos 
[07:14] <Cryterion> Mornings
[07:14] <dlPhreak> Hi Cryterion 
[07:18] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[07:57] <Kilos> uh oh
[08:13] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:15] <inetpro> who robbed my bits again?
[08:15] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[08:15] <Kilos> i was expecting hibana to show up
[11:01] <chesedo> afternoon all
[11:06] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[11:30] <inetpro> Maaz: e
[11:30] <Maaz> .
[11:40] <Kilos> ?
[11:40] <Kilos> point?
[11:43] <superfly> .
[11:47] <Kilos> lol yeah but what is the point of giving that answer
[11:47] <Kilos> to an e
[11:55] <superfly> I haven't a clue
[11:55] <superfly> Maaz: a
[11:55] <Maaz> superfly: What?
[11:55] <superfly> Maaz: i
[11:55] <Maaz> superfly: I do not know
[11:55] <superfly> Maaz: o
[11:55] <Maaz> superfly: Sorry...
[11:55] <superfly> Maaz: u
[11:55] <Maaz> superfly: Huh?
[11:56] <superfly> Maaz: a is <reply>,
[11:56] <Maaz> superfly: If you say so
[11:56] <Kilos> lol
[11:56] <superfly> :-D
[11:56] <superfly> Maaz: a
[11:56] <Maaz> ,
[12:17] <Squirm> Hello :)
[12:18] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm
[12:18] <Maaz> Squirm: Excuse me?
[12:18] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is <reply>Squirm
[12:18] <Maaz> Squirm: If you say so
[12:18] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm
[12:18] <Maaz> Squirm
[12:18] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is <reply>Squirm is the most awesome person
[12:18] <Maaz> Squirm: I already know stuff about Squirm
[12:19] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm
[12:19] <Maaz> Squirm
[12:19] <Squirm> Damn :/
[12:19] <Squirm> Maaz: help
[12:19] <Maaz> Squirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[12:19] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[12:19] <Squirm> Maaz: help me with conversations
[12:19] <Maaz> Squirm: I use the following features for conversions: base, base64, currency, dvorak, morse, rot13, timezone, translate, unicode and units
[12:19] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[12:19] <Squirm> Maaz: how do I use reply
[12:19] <Maaz> Squirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[12:20] <Squirm> Maaz: What can you do?
[12:20] <Maaz> Squirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[12:20] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[12:20] <Squirm> :/
[12:20] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is no
[12:20] <Maaz> Squirm: I already know stuff about Squirm
[12:20] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is not
[12:20] <Maaz> Squirm: I already know stuff about Squirm
[12:21] <Squirm> I messed that one up
[12:25] <chesedo> Maaz: how do i use factoid
[12:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Factoids are arbitrary pieces of information stored by a key. Factoids beginning with a command such as "<action>" or "<reply>" will supress the "name verb value" output. Search and replace functions won't use real regexs unless appended with the 'r' flag.
[12:25] <Maaz> You can use it like this:
[12:25] <Maaz>   search [for] [<limit>] [(facts|values) [containing]] (<pattern>|/<pattern>/[r]) [from <start>]
[12:25] <Maaz>   literal <name> [( #<from number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[12:25] <Maaz>   forget <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[12:25] <Maaz>   <name> is the same as <other name>
[12:25] <Maaz>   <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )] += <suffix>
[12:25] <Maaz>   <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )] ~= ( s/<regex>/<replacement>/[g][i][r] | y/<source>/<dest>/ )
[12:25] <Maaz>   <factoid> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[12:25] <Maaz>   <name> (<verb>|=<verb>=) [also] <value>
[12:25] <Maaz>   last set factoid
[12:25] <chesedo> Squirm: ^^
[12:52] <Squirm> chesedo: THanks
[12:52] <Squirm> Maaz: forget Squirm
[12:52] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is Squirm is awesome!
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm: One learns a new thing every day
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm: Squirm is Squirm is awesome!
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: forget Squirm
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm: Alrighty
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm is <reply>Squirm is awesome!
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm: One learns a new thing every day
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm is awesome!
[12:53] <Squirm> Maaz: Squirm!
[12:53] <Maaz> Squirm is awesome!
[12:53] <Squirm> :D
[12:59] <Squirm> Chat later then
[13:03] <qwebirc36309> Help please
[13:03] <chesedo> hi qwebirc36309 welcome to the channel... how may we help?
[13:08] <qwebirc36309> Hi, I am a "new" user of Ubuntu, in that I have not used it much. I upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10 last night and when I checked my laptop, it had a The error message is: E: Error: BrokenCount > orun-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available exited with return code 255 To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use " sudo <command>". See "man sudo_root" for details. Below that is a list of errors messages –t
[13:08] <qwebirc36309> Sorry I am trying to type using my tablet and its very difficult
[13:10] <chesedo> lol okay, someone that may have faced this in the past will reply in a bit... just have to be patient
[13:10] <chesedo> Kilos: who may know ^^
[13:10] <qwebirc36309> At the moment, my laptop has iqbal@iqbal-lenovo-G580:~$
[13:11] <chesedo> qwebirc36309: after booting?
[13:15] <qwebirc36309> OK, I've switched it off and on. It now reads: Ubuntu 15.10 iqbal-lenovo-G580 tty1 and on next line, iqbal-lenovo-G580 login: . my name is Iqbal and I have a lenovo g580 laptop
[13:21] <qwebirc36309> I have logged in and screen reads: To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use " sudo <command>". See " man sudo_too" for details.
[13:22] <qwebirc36309> What do I type in to get my system started?. Thanks
[13:24] <qwebirc36309> Sorry, the details above should be "man sudo_root"
[13:24] <Kilos> hi qwebirc36309 
[13:25] <qwebirc36309> Hi
[13:25] <Kilos> lemme catch up
[13:25] <Kilos> i was sleeping sorry
[13:25] <qwebirc36309> OK :)
[13:26] <Kilos> whew lets see what we can do
[13:27] <Kilos> its booting into command prompt right
[13:27] <chesedo> Kilos: tty... yes
[13:27] <qwebirc36309> Yes
[13:27] <Kilos> ok so gui is missing
[13:28] <chesedo> and error after upgrade
[13:28] <Kilos> type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:28] <Kilos> then tell me what its doing
[13:29] <Kilos> waking slow, unhappy head today
[13:29] <Kilos> chesedo tel me if i miss something
[13:30] <chesedo> Kilos: was thinking more around 'dpkg reconfigure' but have no experience with this
[13:31] <qwebirc36309> Following came up: Reading package lists...done. Building dependency tree. Reading state information... Done
[13:31] <Kilos> something is missing so bad upgrade imo. well work through it
[13:31] <Kilos> sudo apt-get update
[13:32] <qwebirc36309> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install to correct these:
[13:32] <Kilos> then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:33] <Kilos> ok sudo apt-get -f install
[13:33] <qwebirc36309> Should I continue typing all that came up?
[13:34] <Kilos> do sudo apt-get -f install
[13:34] <Kilos> then tell us what it says
[13:34] <chesedo> no need to list them
[13:35] <qwebirc36309> Is there a number I can call?
[13:35] <qwebirc36309> My whole screen is full
[13:36] <Kilos> is it doing something?
[13:37] <Kilos> the prompt should be at the bottom
[13:37] <qwebirc36309> It asked me if I want to continue, I entered yes. It's busy doing something now
[13:37] <Kilos> just be patient
[13:37] <qwebirc36309> OK. Thanks
[13:38] <Kilos> i wont go back to sleep again
[13:39] <qwebirc36309> It's still busy
[13:39] <Kilos> you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 im sure
[13:39] <Kilos> it has to  follow releases
[13:40] <Kilos> only lts can upgrade to next lts
[13:40] <Kilos> but we can work our way through this
[13:41] <qwebirc36309> I used the update manager, it said there was an update available and if I wanted to update? So I accepted the update
[13:41] <Kilos> oh my
[13:41] <Kilos> nm well sort it with some luck
[13:42] <Kilos> we can always ping the big guns if we get stuck
[13:43] <Kilos> inetpro superfly just follow this fix and comment when you have a chance please
[13:44] <qwebirc36309> It has stopped and last 2 lines read: The default action is to keep your current version. *** cups-browsed.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z)
[13:44] <superfly> press enter
[13:44] <qwebirc36309> Default=N
[13:45] <qwebirc36309> Pressed enter
[13:45] <Kilos> yes choose default
[13:46] <qwebirc36309> It's busy
[13:46] <Kilos> cups stuff if for printers
[13:46] <Kilos> is
[13:49] <qwebirc36309> It's still busy and I have to go run some errands. Can I leave it? Does it need Internet connection?
[13:49] <Kilos> most likely
[13:49] <Kilos> ill be here
[13:49] <Kilos> let me know when you are back
[13:50] <chesedo> it is installing so not anymore
[13:50] <qwebirc36309> Thanks, much appreciated
[13:50] <chesedo> ...unless there is a flash update
[13:50] <Kilos> oh yes packages are already downloaded but one never knows if it wants something extra
[13:51] <Kilos> np qwebirc36309 thats why we are here
[14:05] <qwebirc5523> Errors were encountered while processing: resolvconf
[14:06] <qwebirc5523> Below, more error messages
[14:08] <Kilos> is it back at prompt?
[14:08] <qwebirc5523> Last line: [3000.569800] usb 1-1.4: firmware: fw-0489_e032.hcd will not be loaded
[14:09] <Kilos> as long as its still running just wait
[14:09] <qwebirc5523> Flashing _
[14:09] <Kilos> lets see end message
[14:09] <Kilos> flasing means its still busy
[14:09] <Kilos> h
[14:11] <qwebirc5523> I pressed enter. It came up with my name and laptop name, followed by ~$
[14:11] <Kilos> ok 
[14:11] <Kilos> thats your prompt
[14:11] <Kilos> lets try again
[14:12] <Kilos> you have internet connection?
[14:12] <qwebirc5523> Ok
[14:12] <qwebirc5523> Yes
[14:12] <Kilos> ok
[14:12] <Kilos> type in sudo apt-get install aptitude
[14:12] <qwebirc5523> I don't know if the laptop is connected
[14:13] <Kilos> it will tell you if it isnt
[14:13] <Kilos> wil say failed to fetch
[14:15] <qwebirc5523> It came up with some stuff asked me to continue. I said y
[14:15] <Kilos> good
[14:15] <qwebirc5523> I got some failed to fetch messages
[14:16] <Kilos> then no internet yet
[14:16] <Kilos> what connection have you got?
[14:16] <Kilos> oh qwebirc5523 you can change your nickname
[14:17] <qwebirc5523> I am using my phone as a WiFi hotspot
[14:17] <Kilos> ok
[14:17] <qwebirc5523> How do I change it?
[14:17] <Kilos> so most likely it wants the gui so network manager is active
[14:18] <Kilos> type in /nick newnick
[14:19] <qwebirc5523> No such file or directory
[14:19] <Kilos> nono on you cell here
[14:20] <Kilos> not on the laptop
[14:20] <qwebirc5523> Sorry I don't understand?
[14:20] <Kilos> how are you connected to us here now
[14:21] <qwebirc5523> From my tablet. Which is using my phone hotspot
[14:22] <Kilos> ok on the tablet where you are chatting to me type in /nick newnick
[14:22] <superfly> qwebirc5523: how do you connect your computer to the Internet?
[14:23] <qwebirc5523> Via phone WiFi hotspot
[14:25] <Kilos> hi Iqbal 
[14:26] <Kilos> lets continue
[14:26] <Iqbal> Hi
[14:26] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:26] <Kilos> if it says its the latest version add --reinstall
[14:28] <Iqbal> OK it's busy
[14:28] <Iqbal> Resolving error comes up
[14:28] <superfly> Kilos: his PC is not on the internet
[14:29] <Iqbal> Resolvconf
[14:29] <Kilos> yip superfly im hoping it has already downloaded the package
[14:29] <superfly> Kilos: unlikely
[14:29] <Kilos> oh my superfly 
[14:30] <superfly> Iqbal: run "ifconfig" and then look down the left hand side. there should be some names like "eth0" and "wlan0". Can you give us those names?
[14:30] <Iqbal> Got to go now, will try later. Thanks
[14:31] <Kilos> ok
[16:22] <qwebirc82492> Hi
[16:22] <Kilos> hi qwebirc82492 
[16:25] <qwebirc82492> When I typed ifconfig, I got: lo Link encap:local loopback. Just address:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0.
[16:26] <qwebirc82492> Followed by a few more lines of stuff
[16:26] <Kilos> no wwan0 or wlan0 or something like that?
[16:27] <qwebirc82492> No
[16:28] <Kilos> we need to wait for one of the clever guys to get your internet sorted from cli
[16:28] <Kilos> but we can keep trying with whats downloaded already
[16:28] <qwebirc82492> OK. Thanks again
[16:28] <Kilos> did you run dpkg --configure -a
[16:29] <Kilos> sudo in front
[16:29] <qwebirc82492> No
[16:29] <Kilos> ok try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:29] <Kilos> tell me what it says
[16:31] <qwebirc82492> Setting up resolvconf (1.77ubuntu1) ...
[16:32] <qwebirc82492> Processing triggers for resolvconf 
[16:32] <Kilos> somewhere something is conflicting
[16:32] <Kilos> lets hope it sorts it
[16:33] <qwebirc82492> Resolvconf: Error: /run/resolvconf/interfaceeither does not exist or is not a directory
[16:34] <Kilos> hi kodez 
[16:34] <qwebirc82492> Dpkg: error processing package resolvconf (--configure):
[16:34] <kodez> hi oom kilos
[16:35] <kodez> hello everyone
[16:35] <Kilos> kodez do you know how to get wifi working from cli?
[16:35] <qwebirc82492> Subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:36] <qwebirc82492> Errors were encountered while processing: resolvconf
[16:37] <Kilos> wb Iqbal 
[16:37] <Kilos> hehe
[16:38] <Kilos> you learn fast
[16:38] <Iqbal> ;)
[16:38] <Iqbal> Thanks
[16:38] <Kilos> :D
[16:38] <kodez> nope. I haven't invested time to study wifi management
[16:39] <Iqbal> I wish I was an Ubuntu guru
[16:39] <Kilos> ty kodez well wait for superfly 
[16:39] <Kilos> you can learn Iqbal 
[16:39] <Kilos> just be here all the time and you learn quick
[16:39] <Kilos> is it still running?
[16:40] <Iqbal> I started using Ubuntu a few years ago but hardly had much to do with the guru stuff
[16:41] <Kilos> all i know i learned here
[16:41] <Iqbal> It's not doing anything, only the command prompt is there
[16:41] <Kilos> learning to use the cli is half the fun of learning
[16:42] <Kilos> ok lets try that sudo apt-get -f install
[16:42] <Iqbal> Cli = command line interface?
[16:42] <Kilos> yes
[16:43] <Iqbal> Errors
[16:44] <Kilos> i get frustrated when things battle like that
[16:44] <Kilos> how did you install 14.04 Iqbal 
[16:45] <Iqbal> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:45] <Kilos> if you still have that dvd or boot drive we can try booting from that
[16:45] <Iqbal> I have to go and scratch
[16:46] <Kilos> scratch while waiting
[16:46] <Iqbal> Ok
[16:49] <Kilos> at least from the live disk one can get the internet working
[17:29] <Kilos> oh my
[17:30] <Kilos> state of the nation circus
[17:30] <chesedo> again
[17:32] <chesedo> ?
[17:33] <Kilos> yeah
[17:34] <chesedo> where you watching?
[17:34] <Kilos> tv2
[17:34] <Kilos> its settled down some now
[17:38] <chesedo> oh, what happened?
[17:38] <chesedo> tv2... the old days...
[17:39] <Kilos> already been threats of having peeps removed from the chamber
[17:49] <Kilos> whew too tiring to watch that
[18:11] <inetpro> good morning everyone 
[18:11] <inetpro> anything interesting on the table tonight? 
[18:11] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[18:12] <inetpro> oops, I mean this morning 
[18:12] <Kilos> waiting for iqbal to return so you can repair his broken lappy
[18:12] <Kilos> dunno what happened to him now
[18:13] <Kilos> dunno how his update manager managed to update from 14.04 to 15.10
[18:14] <Kilos> but it broke everything
[18:19] <superfly> Kilos: by the looks of things he just needs to type "sudo mkdir -p /run/resolveconf/interfaces" and then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[18:19] <superfly> Kilos: 14.04 directly to 15.10?
[18:19] <Kilos> ty superfly ill inform him if he returns
[18:19] <Kilos> yes i think thats what he said
[18:20] <superfly> wow
[18:20] <superfly> no wonder
[18:20] <superfly> you can't do that, it WILL break your system
[18:20] <Kilos> Hi, I am a "new" user of Ubuntu, in that I have not used it much. I upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10 last night and when I checked my laptop
[18:21] <Kilos> yes but the thng is he used update manager
[18:21] <Kilos> that shouldnt even give the option to jump like that
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz tell iqbal on freenode by the looks of things he just needs to type "sudo mkdir -p /run/resolveconf/interfaces" and then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[18:25] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Iqbal on freenode
[18:39] <qwebirc8519> Hi
[18:39] <qwebirc8519> I think I've stuffed up
[18:44] <Iqbal> Now when I restart my laptop, the Ubuntu icon starts, the little buttons move a few times and then I end up with a blank screen
[18:44] <Maaz> Iqbal: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell iqbal by the looks of things he just needs to type "sudo mkdir -p /run/resolveconf/interfaces" and then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again" 19 minutes and 43 seconds ago
[18:45] <Iqbal> I don't have the command prompt anymore
[18:46] <Kilos> oh my
[18:46] <chesedo> Iqbal: <ctrl> + <alt> + f1
[18:46] <Kilos> what do you have now
[18:46] <chesedo> to get to tty1
[18:48] <Iqbal> OK. On login now
[18:52] <Kilos> Iqbal keep us informed as to whats happening
[18:53] <Kilos> and even when its fixed you have to visit here
[18:53] <chesedo> lol
[18:53] <Kilos> then one of us could have warned you that such a big release jumps is unwise
[18:54] <superfly> Iqbal: hi
[19:13] <Iqbal> Hi, sorry had to run quickly
[19:13] <magespawn> good evening
[19:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[19:14] <Kilos> Iqbal np
[19:14] <Iqbal> OK, I have command prompt
[19:14] <Kilos> sudo mkdir -p /run/resolveconf/interfaces
[19:15] <Kilos> exactly like that
[19:16] <Iqbal> Done. 
[19:16] <Kilos> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:16] <Kilos> and hold thumbs
[19:17] <Kilos> are you sure that upgrade was from 14.04 to 15.10
[19:17] <Kilos> not 14.10
[19:18] <Iqbal> Setting up resolvconf (1.77ubuntu1) ... Followed by: processing triggers for resolvconf (1.77ubuntu1) ...
[19:19] <Iqbal> Yes
[19:19] <Kilos> wow
[19:20] <chesedo> whoo oo!!!
[19:20] <Iqbal> Top of my screen reads: Ubuntu 15.10
[19:20] <chesedo> to restart sudo systemctl reboot
[19:22] <Iqbal> Reboot done
[19:22] <Kilos> and?
[19:22] <Kilos> is it fixed?
[19:23] <Iqbal> Ubuntu logo comes up with small buttons changing colors and then I have a blank screen
[19:24] <Kilos> did you find your install disk?
[19:26] <Iqbal> I am not sure if it's the right one but I can try
[19:27] <Kilos> without internet we will battle to fix that, boot from install disk and choose try ubuntu
[19:29] <Iqbal> When I go into boot menu, I only have 2 options: 1. Ata hdd. 2. PCI lan
[19:30] <chesedo> night all... and good luck with the fix
[19:30] <Iqbal> Thanks
[19:30] <Kilos> then you need to press fi or delete when booting and set bios to boot from whatever iso you have
[19:30] <Kilos> is it dvd or iso on flash disk?
[19:30] <Kilos> night chesedo 
[19:30] <Iqbal> Dvd
[19:31] <Kilos> right in bios you set boot option to boot from dvd first
[19:31] <Kilos> then hdd
[19:35] <Iqbal> OK, when I booted up, I got a screen that I have never seen before. It said something like Ubuntu, with advanced options that I had to select within a few seconds. Which I did.
[19:35] <Kilos> yes thats recovery modes i think
[19:35] <Kilos> thats from the drive not the dvd
[19:36] <Kilos> does it give a recover option
[19:37] <Iqbal> It came up with a list of Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-77-generic. Followed by the same whereafter in brackets it reads upstart.next line same, in brackets recovery mode
[19:38] <Kilos> choose an earlier recovery not the top one
[19:38] <Kilos> hopefully we can recover 14.04
[19:39] <Iqbal> OK it's busy
[19:39] <Iqbal> Recovery menu came up
[19:41] <Iqbal> Resume. Clean. Dpkg. FailsafeX. Fsck. Grub. Network. Root. System summary
[19:41] <Kilos> fsck
[19:41] <Iqbal> Those are the options
[19:41] <Kilos> fsck is file system check
[19:42] <Kilos> it offers options at times to fix things i think
[19:43] <Kilos> thern when it goes back there choose the dpkg one 
[19:44] <Kilos> but i think that might want internet, dont remember everything unless i see them
[19:44] <Iqbal> It done some stuff and failed to do something. Said to press enter somewhere in the middle of the screen. I entered. Back to recovery menu
[19:45] <Kilos> did you do the dpkg one too?
[19:46] <Iqbal> Can not upgrade. An upgrade from 'wily' to 'trusty' is not supported with this tool. Finished, please press enter
[19:47] <Kilos> enter
[19:47] <Iqbal> Back to recovery menu
[19:47] <Kilos> whats the top one
[19:47] <Kilos> resume?
[19:48] <Iqbal> On network option, it says Enable networking. Should I try it?
[19:48] <Kilos> try
[19:48] <Kilos> see what that does
[19:48] <Iqbal> Yes, top is resume
[19:48] <Kilos> ok then resume
[19:49] <Kilos> and hope it boots clean
[19:49] <Iqbal> Trying to start network manager
[19:50] <Iqbal> Only flashing prompt. Should I wait?
[19:50] <Kilos> hit enter and see
[19:51] <Kilos> if it still flashes its working on something
[19:51] <Iqbal> Nothing. Last option is system summary. Should I check what it says?
[19:52] <Kilos> lets see if the internet connection works
[19:52] <Kilos> ctrl+alt+F2
[19:52] <Iqbal> OK will wait a bit
[19:53] <Iqbal> Should I resume first?
[19:53] <Kilos> yes
[19:53] <Kilos> lets see
[19:55] <Iqbal> Blank screen
[19:55] <Kilos> eish
[19:55] <Kilos> ctrl+alt+f2
[19:55] <Kilos> lets see if you have internnet
[19:56] <Iqbal> Ok
[19:56] <Iqbal> How?
[19:56] <Kilos> sudo apt-get update
[19:57] <Iqbal> Failed
[19:57] <Kilos> eish
[19:58] <Kilos> ok so that leaves us with booting from dvd
[19:58] <Kilos> you need to make sure bios boots from dvd first
[19:59] <Iqbal> OK, will try
[20:02] <Kilos> was there anything in there that you dont want to lose?
[20:02] <Iqbal> I don't mind losing any information
[20:03] <Kilos> then maybe it would be quicker to reinstall
[20:04] <Kilos> tell me a bit about it first
[20:04] <Iqbal> I still don't see any other boot options and if I try to get into the settings, it want a password, which I don't know
[20:04] <Kilos> is it a dual boot with windows 
[20:05] <Kilos> did you try enter without a password
[20:05] <Iqbal> No, I made it without windows
[20:05] <Kilos> good
[20:06] <Kilos> who put a password in bios
[20:07] <Iqbal> Tried without password, still require password
[20:07] <Kilos> whew
[20:07] <Iqbal> I usually don't. I think I might have
[20:07] <Kilos> lol
[20:08] <Kilos> what lappy is it
[20:08] <Iqbal> Sorry for all the hassle, I appreciate your help
[20:08] <Kilos> np
[20:08] <Iqbal> Lenovo g580 laptop
[20:08] <Kilos> im learning with you
[20:08] <Iqbal> Intel core i3
[20:09] <Kilos> do you know where the bios battery is
[20:09] <Iqbal> Lol, no
[20:09] <Kilos> you can broswe hey
[20:09] <Kilos> browse
[20:10] <Iqbal> It's late, do you want to quit? Try tomorrow?
[20:10] <Kilos> we can go a bit more
[20:10] <Kilos> http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-a-BIOS-Password
[20:12] <Iqbal> OK, will try
[20:12] <Kilos> if you want to sleep thats fine too
[20:13] <Kilos> im here every day
[20:13] <Kilos> one other idea quick
[20:13] <Kilos> have you a windows c or dvd
[20:13] <Kilos> sometimes things boot from them
[20:16] <Kilos> then you just format the drive and then boot from the ubuntu dvd
[20:18] <Iqbal> OK, removed the battery. Will connect tomorrow. Thanks
[20:18] <Kilos> cothe cmos battery??
[20:19] <Kilos> thats a small round flat one 
[20:19] <Kilos> i think you have to half strip a lappy to find it
[20:19] <Kilos> anyway ill be here tomorrow
[20:23] <Iqbal> Yes, I removed the battery
[20:23] <Kilos> cool
[20:24] <Kilos> then tomorrow we set it all up
[20:24] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[20:24] <Iqbal> Yes, thanks again for your help. Much appreciated
[20:24] <Kilos> youre welcome
[20:31] <magespawn> hey back
[20:31] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[20:31] <magespawn> bios password used to be rather simple
[20:31] <Kilos> just in time to say night
[20:31] <magespawn> maybe there is a default
[20:32] <Kilos> pulling cmos battery is easiest for me to remember
[20:33] <magespawn> might be difficult to get to in a laptop
[20:33] <Kilos> i havent tried on a lappy before
[20:33] <Kilos> anyway well see tomorrow
[20:33] <magespawn> i will try to be around
[20:34] <Kilos> ty
[20:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:34] <magespawn> good night
[20:34] <magespawn> that is me off too, good night all
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