[00:00] <ikonia> you repeat the same problems over and over and over and over, despite having this explained to you, over and over and over
[00:00] <easyOnMe> back then I had few info and back then I was not aware that #ubuntu existed and so does freenode irc chat channel
[00:00] <easyOnMe> so good I am here learning a lot using google and stackoverflow
[00:01] <ikonia> easyOnMe: you've been in here for months - so you "must" have known the channel existed, as you've been here for months repeating the same problems/mistakes over and over
[00:01] <easyOnMe> ikonia: sorry I only presented this issue today only man
[00:01] <easyOnMe> I never reinstalled anything new
[00:01] <ikonia> what ?
[00:01] <easyOnMe> if I did I could have quit long time ago
[00:02] <ikonia> you're not making sense
[00:02] <easyOnMe> maybe it was someone else man
[00:02] <ikonia> is English your first language ?
[00:02] <easyOnMe> what are you talking about man
[00:02] <easyOnMe> I just presented this problem only today
[00:02] <ikonia> you've been in here many times
[00:02] <ikonia> for months
[00:03] <easyOnMe> ikonia: yes
[00:03] <easyOnMe> I agree but this issue about versions I only discussed it today
[00:03] <ikonia> easyOnMe: no-one is disputing that
[00:03] <easyOnMe> previous my questions were about basic ubuntu stuff, terminal commands and all
[00:03] <easyOnMe> ikonia: anyway thanks man
[00:03] <ikonia> I'm stating you come in this channel having the same problems over and over again, have them explained to you and you repeat the same mistakes
[00:04] <easyOnMe> k1l: thanks so much
[00:04] <easyOnMe> ikonia: like I said this mistake about the server version only happened once
[00:04] <easyOnMe> if you have a database record of all my chats here you can see that for your self
[00:05] <easyOnMe> thanks man
[00:05] <nedstark> i don't remember him, but i have this metal plate in my head
[00:10] <Zythyr> Can someone help me please. I get stuck at modprobe usbip command in this guide: https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-a-usb-over-ip-server-and-client-with-ubuntu-10.04
[00:11] <ikonia> Zythyr: whats the issue ?
[00:11] <ikonia> (that whole guide looks bad)
[00:11] <Zythyr>  modprobe: FATAL: Module usbip not found.
[00:11] <ikonia> where is the module coming from
[00:11] <ikonia> ok - so the module doesn't exist
[00:12] <Zythyr> when i do usbipd -D, I get error: usbipd: error: please load usbip-core.ko and usbip-host.ko!
[00:12] <Zythyr> sorry thats that wrong error
[00:12] <ikonia> right, and then you try to modprobe it, I see that
[00:13] <Zythyr> I get error usbip_common_mod.ko and usbkip.ko must be loaded
[00:13] <ikonia> ok, so modprobe them
[00:13] <Zythyr> I can't
[00:13] <Zythyr> because it says usbip module doens't exisist
[00:13] <ikonia> why ?
[00:13] <ikonia> Zythyr: ok - so where do they come from ?
[00:13] <Zythyr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2285243
[00:14] <ikonia> no
[00:14] <ikonia> I'm not asking for a URL
[00:14] <ikonia> I'm asking where do those modules come from
[00:14] <Zythyr> I installed them
[00:14] <ikonia> the guide you are reading is for ubuntu 10.04
[00:14] <Zythyr> apt-get install usbip
[00:14] <OerHeks> "Since Linux-3.17 the package 'usbip' is obsolete and does not work. If used, usbip will not function. Solution: Finally remove the package usbip, it is absolutely missleading."
[00:14] <ikonia> is that guide still relevent to 14.04 ?
[00:14] <ikonia> OerHeks: thank you
[00:14] <ddssA> fuxk ubont
[00:14] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbip/+bug/1541855
[00:15] <ikonia> ddssA: don't swear
[00:15] <Zythyr> So is there an alternate method where I can assigned an IP address to a USB device?
[00:16] <ikonia> USB over IP is not something I'd say is a good stable technology
[00:16] <ikonia> (others may disagree)
[00:16] <netameta__> what does "cat /dev/input/mouse0" (c, 13, 32) means ?
[00:17] <ikonia> netameta__: it's the device file for your mouse
[00:17] <netameta__> what does cat means
[00:17] <ikonia> "read"
[00:17] <netameta__> when i type the above in terminal i get an error ikonia
[00:18] <ikonia> netameta__: why are you typing it if you don't know what it does
[00:18] <netameta__> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `c,'
[00:18] <ikonia> netameta__: thats not what I asked
[00:18] <netameta__> ikonia, i am readying up input/output
[00:18] <netameta__> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/input/input.txt
[00:19] <ikonia> netameta__: so whats any of this got to do with the #ubuntu channel ?
[00:19] <netameta__> ikonia, It doesnt ?
[00:19] <k1l> netameta__: the one in " is the command. the one behind not
[00:19] <netameta__> k1l, Ah
[00:20] <netameta__> k1l, the one after doesnt specify which lines to read ?
[00:20] <k1l> netameta__: no
[00:20] <netameta__> i see, thanks k1l
[00:21] <k1l> well, not for the cat command. maybe to your manual reading of the output. but i dont know the context
[00:23] <netameta__> k1l, You were right
[00:23] <netameta__> its just to read the mouse input
[00:25] <Zythyr> If I am running a Live CD of Ubunut (trial), how can I install new packages? When I do "apt-get install xyz", it doesn't find the location of package
[00:29] <k1l> Zythyr: enable universe repo
[00:30] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Likely, enable the universe repo . ( changes in a live environment will not persist reboot ) .
[00:30] <Zythyr> thanks!
[00:45] <jimmy51v_> i have incoming .csr files, send them to a cert signing group, and get a cert back.  is there a utility i can use to verify the cert that was returned matches the .csr file?
[00:47] <johnny__> hello
[00:47] <jimmy51v_> i've found this website but would like to run something local rather than paste that stuff on a website
[00:47] <jimmy51v_> https://pkiwidgets.quovadisglobal.com/pkiwidgets/matchCertAndCSR.aspx
[00:54] <easyOnMe> k1l: I got this reply from a support staff in Digital Ocean: The repos for Utopic have been deprecated and are no longer available. Another note, we highly recommend migrating to a new droplet instead of performing the distribution upgrade within the droplet. The reason for this is the newer images use self-managed kernels instead of the externally managed kernels. So if you have a 14.10 droplet upgraded to 15.x you will most likely see issues with kernel
[00:54] <easyOnMe> mismatches.
[00:55] <easyOnMe> k1l: my question is what is the difference with those self - managed kernels and externally managed kernels
[00:56] <k1l> ask the digitalocean support about their specifics
[00:57] <OerHeks> they all do their own tweaks, aws, digital ocean ..
[00:58] <easyOnMe> k1l: I already did
[01:31] <freeone3000> I'm currently ssh'd into a machine. How can I tell how it's getting its IP?
[01:32] <freeone3000> There's no eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces, only lo, which strikes me as odd because I'm ssh'd into it *somehow*.
[01:34] <freeone3000> My issue is that it's somehow getting incorrect DNS or gateway settings, so I need to check them to fix them.
[01:45] <sulfasal> played a dvd mith mpv and it barfed midway but I can't kill it. I run top but which process is it?
[01:46]  * sulfasal turn that m uside down
[01:46] <cfhowlett> sulfasal, ps -x | grep mpv
[01:47] <sulfasal> cfhowlett: goin in...
[01:49] <sulfasal> cfhowlett: poof! thx man!
[01:49] <cfhowlett> sulfasal, happy2help!
[01:54] <rrr> how do i display the last line of a logfile continually?
[01:55] <freeone3000> rrr: tail -f
[01:59] <Ev0luti0n_> hey guys..
[01:59] <Ev0luti0n_> as anybody used a device like this: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Phonetone-LTE-1700MHz-3G-1700MHz-Cell-Phone-Repeater-Booster-Amplifier-Antenna-/131704970323?hash=item1eaa3a5c53:g:hvwAAOSwZG9Whcyo
[01:59] <Ev0luti0n_> ?
[01:59] <somsip> Ev0luti0n_: this is the ubuntu support channel, and the question seems to have nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:59] <cfhowlett> Ev0luti0n_, hardware questions go to 3hardware
[01:59] <cfhowlett> #hardware
[02:00] <Madhumper69> why not send a message to the seller and im sure they will have the right answer?
[02:00] <Ev0luti0n_> i'm sorry. Will do, Thanks.
[02:22] <fishbrain> hehehe
[02:25] <gatornade> hi
[02:35] <barnito_> anyone around??
[02:35] <roboto4> yo
[02:36] <barnito_> I have a server running on linux, I can get to it from any PC in the house except the one it is running on, do I have to add a loopback?
[02:37] <roboto4> ....are you trying to ssh into it?
[02:37] <roboto4> then yeah I think you do
[02:38] <barnito_> web interface
[02:38] <barnito_> and znc from a IRC client
[02:39] <barnito_> WELL IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS JUST THE irc CLIENT
[02:39] <barnito_> whoops
[02:39] <barnito_> caps
[02:40] <ubuntu681> can someone help me with updating samba?  the latest update on 15.10 wont allow me to access from any of my windows machines
[02:41] <geetar> Trouble recovering from boot problem.  I put a live CD in but have permissions problems getting into the folders.  Just trying to put a few files back into /boot from a /home directory but can't get to it due to permission problems.
[02:41] <geetar> Any ideas?
[02:41] <ubuntu681> is there somewhere I can download a precompiled deb file of the latest samba?
[02:42] <cfhowlett> ubuntu681, apt-get download samba
[02:42] <cfhowlett> might be apt-get -download ...
[02:43] <nicomachus> it's apt-get download <package>
[02:43] <ubuntu681> im saying, the latest samba packages in the ubuntu repositories is broken
[02:43] <nicomachus> how so?
[02:44] <nicomachus> and what version?
[02:44] <ubuntu681> [21:40] <ubuntu681> can someone help me with updating samba?  the latest update on 15.10 wont allow me to access from any of my windows machines
[02:44] <nicomachus> ...what version? and what do you me it won't allow you to access them? does it give an error?
[02:45] <nicomachus> (samba -version)
[02:45] <ubuntu681> chris@MEDIASERVER:/mnt/SuperCoolMedia$ smbd -V Version 4.1.17-Ubuntu
[02:45] <nicomachus> same version I have, works here. Are you getting any error messages?
[02:45] <ubuntu681> yes.  access is denied to everything.  Ive tried every setting imaginable.  I've read that this version is borked, and an updated version fgixes it
[02:46] <nicomachus> where did you read that?
[02:47] <ubuntu681> hell, i dont know
[02:47] <ubuntu681> I just know that after three weeks, multiple installs, nothing else has worked
[02:48] <ubuntu681> Install 12.04, works fine.  Install 14.04, works fine, until updated.  Same on 15.10
[02:50] <ubuntu681> http://www.bictor.com/2016/01/20/compile-latest-samba-after-issue-in-14-04-3/
[02:50] <frustr8d_apu_blu> LiveDVD of gnome 15.10 OK, next broken on hp pavil g6 with amd a6 apu... help end my blues with some clues pls?..
[02:51] <ubuntu681> so?
[02:51] <cfhowlett> !details | frustr8d_apu_blu,
[02:53] <squinty> geetar:  http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html   basically one would use  chroot  with the livecd
[02:53] <ubuntu681> any idea on how to update samba?
[02:55] <davido_> Is the speed reported by Network Manager | Connection Information | Active Network Connections accurate? I'm seeing 6Mb/s (megabits) reported in that window. But I've got a file transfer going at 2.8 MB/s (megabytes), and the router is reporting a pretty high link rate.
[02:56] <frustr8d_apu_blu> Im not able to have working installation of gnome ubuntu 15.10 though everythings fine on the Live-mode. After reboot, the screen errors, staying gray until reset power, or simply doesnt load. I suspect its an issue with EUFI which is in legacy mode, or if drivers related to my A-6 APU (amd) is to blame. How can I resolve?
[02:56] <davido_> seems like the network manager reported number is off considerably.
[02:58] <geetar> squinty: thanks for the link -- looking into it.
[02:59] <SuperLag> if you're trying to log in to Unity, is there a way to log in to the UI with a user that's not listed there?
[02:59] <SuperLag> if so, how?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, turn off the user display option.
[02:59] <Faryshta> hi, can I install ubuntu phone on xperia z1?
[02:59] <davido_> I guess the manifestation is consistent with the behavior described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/477212
[02:59] <davido_> but that's a really old bug.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> !touch | Faryshta
[03:01] <Faryshta> cfhowlett: thanks, checking it.
[03:06] <angeline> hlo
[03:08] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: thank you
[03:08] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, happy@help!
[03:12] <angeline> halo there
[03:15] <sampah> halo
[03:16] <sampah> sampah
[03:16] <angeline> sampah?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> sampah this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions
[03:18] <ubuntu108> ok, here it is:   https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11647
[03:18] <ubuntu108> bug was fixed in samba on 1-7-2016
[03:18] <ubuntu108> so, how to i download a version past 4.2.8?
[03:22] <ubuntu108> anyone have any ideas?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> ubuntu108, download from the site?? https://www.samba.org/
[03:26] <jolie> ubuntu108
[03:56] <JackShadowFirez> hi
[03:57] <angeline> hi
[04:01] <tronix> hello
[04:02] <tronix> i need some help trying to find my compiz  setting
[04:03] <tronix> is any one here
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !patience | tronix
[04:04] <raparkhurst> hello
[04:05] <tronix> sory  i was just kinda new to ubuntu i was trying to find my compiz settings   in my iso
[04:09] <squinty> tronix,  not sure but iirc, ccsm is not installed by default.  might have to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[04:10] <tronix> i did
[04:16] <tinyalpha> hows the ubuntu operating system going for all you folks
[04:16] <tinyalpha> i like att unix
[04:16] <tinyalpha> just havnt figured out how to work it yet
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tinyalpha, this is ubuntu support.  what is your support question
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tinyalpha, UBUNTU support.  chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[04:18] <tinyalpha> okay well i do have a ubuntu question, where can i find a shell server program for it
[04:18] <cfhowlett> tinyalpha, have you installed ubuntu?
[04:19] <tinyalpha> yes ubuntu is installed
[04:20] <tinyalpha> i was going to try the pakage manager in ubuntu i want shell server so i can give shell access to people whats it called
[04:20] <cfhowlett> openssh
[04:21] <tinyalpha> okay i get that one then
[04:23] <scriptsqd> test
[04:23] <scriptsqd> exit
[04:40] <yt> hi
[04:41] <yt> anyone who love ubuntu studio?
[04:41] <yt> I've been using it for nearly 5 yrs
[05:35] <InventorTechie> Has anyone come across, a web based (SaaS) server management panel solution? Basically, one, that allows you to manage bare metal systems all from 1 panel / end-point?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> InventorTechie: sounds more like a ##networking question
[05:37] <InventorTechie> ty ty , jumping over there - cya
[05:44] <in_deep_thought> how can I empty the trash on ubuntu? I go to the trash, select everything, press empty trash, and everything is still there?
[05:44] <in_deep_thought> seems like it should be straightforwards
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> in_deep_thought: right mouse the trash/empty should work
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> in_deep_thought: and in nautilus settings you can choose to bypass the trash, and delete right away
[05:47] <in_deep_thought> yeah i try that. It brings up the trash with everything highlighted and I press empty and everything is still there
[05:47] <in_deep_thought> can I do it ffrom the command line?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> in_deep_thought: maybe like this: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[05:49] <in_deep_thought> yep that works
[05:49] <in_deep_thought> thanks
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info trashcli | in_deep_thought also handy
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !info trash-cli | in_deep_thought
[05:50] <tiago_> hi
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> can photorec recover data from diskettes also?
[06:12] <reichenbach_> bonjour
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !fr | reichenbach_
[06:16] <Gegsite> hey
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: welcome, what can we do for you
[06:16] <Gegsite> Heekscad says now after I updated from 15.04 to 15.10 : geg@GeriPC:~$ heekscad
[06:16] <Gegsite> Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected.
[06:16] <Gegsite> The library used 2.8 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1009,wx containers,compatible with 2.6),
[06:16] <Gegsite> and your program used 2.8 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers,compatible with 2.6).
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: 15.04 is eol, install 15.10 fresh instead
[06:17] <Gegsite> thats why I did a dist update
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: not very recommended to upgrade from an eol version
[06:25] <Gegsite> lotuspsychje, do you have 15.10 ?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: no im on 14.04.3
[06:27] <Gegsite> oh... I wanted to ask you to install heekscad from apt-get and check if its working lotuspsychje
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: where did you get that package from
[06:37] <Gegsite> lotuspsychje, it was on wily I think
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !info heekscad
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !info heekscad vivid
[06:38] <Gegsite> hmmm they wait a sec
[06:38] <Gegsite> https://code.google.com/archive/p/heekscad/wikis/HeeksCncUnderUbuntu.wiki
[06:39] <Gegsite> it was runing fine in 15.04
[06:40] <barnito_> is there a channel for just wine?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Gegsite: we dont support ppa's mate, ask the maintainer
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !wine | barnito_
[06:41] <Gegsite> ohmm I did, no answer yet.
[06:42] <Gegsite> Can somebody do a package then to main?
[06:43] <DrManhattan> I'm running vsftpd on ubuntu 14.04. When I upload a file to a directory that I own (not ~) using scp it gives me 644 perms but when I do it via ftp it gives me 600. Can anyone help me remedy this behavior? I'd prefer the same behavior seen on scp
[06:43] <barnito_> I know what wine is, thanks anyway, I am having a network issue
[06:44] <somsip> DrManhattan: looks like specific umasks are in vsftpd.conf http://serverfault.com/questions/571289/vsftpd-default-uploaded-file-permissions-on-ubuntu-not-working
[06:44] <DrManhattan> somsip, thank you very much
[06:48] <DrManhattan> somsip, worked like a charm, thanks
[06:50] <somsip> DrManhattan: np
[06:52] <Sonu> hi wht is setsid in this command.  exec('bash -c "exec nohup setsid your_command > /dev/null 2>&1 &"'); is it will return Process id  ?
[07:00] <Triffid_Hunter> Sonu: setsid creates a new process group so if you close the terminal, the command won't receive a signal or anything
[07:01] <Sonu> ok  is it will return Process id  ?
[07:01] <geirha> No, it doesn't affect the pid in any way
[07:11] <oskie> I've had two servers with "black screen" after boot last two days. Both had latest kernel 3.13.0-77. Coincidence?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> oskie: did you try booting previous kernel?
[07:15] <oskie> lotuspsychje: yeah, it fixed it (in both cases)
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> oskie: you might wanna file a bug
[07:16] <oskie> it seems some servers survive the reboot to the -77 kernel, so it must be something specific to these...
[07:32] <OneM_Industries> How would I take the output of a command and add it to a file?
[07:32] <OneM_Industries> I have tried cat (command) > test.txt, but that just created a blank file.
[07:33] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: command >> file. > is truncate and write, >> is append
[07:33] <OneM_Industries> Oooh, ok. Thank you!
[07:34] <OneM_Industries> Bingo!
[07:34] <OneM_Industries> Thank you, now I can actually read the output of smartctl!
[07:34] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: why not just smartctl | less?
[07:35] <Triffid_Hunter> no need to put it in a file just to have it paginated
[07:35] <OneM_Industries> ..because I did not know that existed. Thank you again!
[07:35] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: the perils of XY problems :P
[07:35] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: http://xyproblem.info/ ;)
[07:36] <OneM_Industries> Heh, I have a feeling that a lot of what I do can be classified as that...
[07:36] <OneM_Industries> Ah well, all part of learning I suppose!
[07:38] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: yep! XY problems are especially problematic while learning about linux, because basically it's the lego of the OS ecosystem and you can do a zillion things in a zillion different ways
[07:38] <davido_> I wonder if anyone else here has tried an Asus MB169B+ (15.1" USB3.0 DisplayLink portable monitor)
[07:38] <OneM_Industries> Heh, thank you. Now to figure out how to get screen to take up the entire command terminal window.
[07:38] <davido_> I've got one and mostly like it.
[07:38] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: ctrl+a, shift+F
[07:38] <OneM_Industries> Triffid_Hunter: That is very true.
[07:39] <OneM_Industries> Nope, still just the upper lefthand corner of the screen.
[07:40] <davido_> there are a few quirks. Probably the most annoying is that if my dual DVI monitors go into sleep mode, the mouse cursor will spawn a zombie.
[07:40] <davido_> but as soon as I detach the USB3 monitor that zombie pointer goes away.
[07:41] <davido_> But aside from that it's a nice little monitor.
[07:41] <davido_> great for laptop use.
[07:41] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: hm, works for me
[07:41] <OneM_Industries> Odd.
[07:41] <OneM_Industries> Ah drat, the attack of the gibberish is back.
[07:42] <OneM_Industries> Time to reboot the server I guess.
[07:42] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: although my screen sessions auto-resize unless they have multiple clients attached.. maybe something else is going on
[07:42] <davido_> Lol, for a moment I thought OneM was directing that comment at me.
[07:43] <Triffid_Hunter> OneM_Industries: gibberish? if your terminal gets messed up from you catting binary files or something, just type reset<enter>. read manpage first if you're (rightly) nervous about such a command ;)
[07:43] <OneM_Industries> I dunno. This server is a bit wibbly, but I guess that comes with being a repurposed desktop.
[07:43] <OneM_Industries> No, it happens whenever I exit and reenter screen.
[07:44] <OneM_Industries> I get a ton of this: "m�e)�N�;��y�=���'�c���9�����%�1�m�m����ko��m�e)�N�;���=�������9����
[07:44] <OneM_Industries> "
[07:44] <davido_> Oh, that's just Perl.
[07:45] <OneM_Industries> Oh, hey. Turning the server off and on again and restarting screen fixed the resolution issue.
[07:46] <Tin_man> i've a question what directory does my Python-3.5.1 need to be in for the gcc compiler to be in the path to compile it?
[07:47] <davido_> wow, i wouldn't have guessed that it matters.
[07:47] <blipz> Lol at Perl
[07:47] <davido_> finally!
[07:54] <emitattuo> I'm seemingly having trouble with my DNS settings on 15.10/wily x64 desktop.  I've isolated the problem to the specific computer (the network connection is fine on other computers on the same network) I can ping IP addresses directly, but attempting to do the same with a domain name results in: ping: unknown host.  Similar results appear regardless of program used.
[07:54] <emitattuo> I've attempted to change the DNS settings to either the ISP's DNS or public DNS servers using the Network Connections editor (nm-connection-editor) and then restarting the computer but domain names remain unresolvable.  Thanks for any suggestions on what to try next.
[07:58] <Ben64> emitattuo: try "nslookup google.com"
[07:59] <emitattuo> Ben64, It times out; "no servers can be reached".
[07:59] <Ben64> emitattuo: try "nslookup google.com 8.8.8.8"
[08:00] <emitattuo> Ben64, that returns a non-authoritative answer with Google's IP.
[08:00] <Ben64> well thats good, you just need to set some working dns servers then
[08:02] <emitattuo> Ben64, How would I go about doing that?  I've tried the network connection editor, seemingly to no avail.
[08:03] <Ben64> emitattuo: what did you put in there for dns server
[08:05] <emitattuo> Ben64, I've tried 8.8.8.8, Comodo's, and a couple others.  I just tried nslookup with the ones in there now and it returned the same result as 8.8.8.8.
[08:07] <Ben64> emitattuo: so that means (to me) that you're not using the connection you configured there
[08:09] <emitattuo> Ben64, whatever is handling my network connections is disregarding the information I put in the GUI, either because it's not properly being saved or it's being overwritten by something else.
[08:09] <emitattuo> Ben64, right?
[08:10] <Ben64> emitattuo: can't really tell, maybe you're editing the wrong connection?
[08:10] <emitattuo> Ben64, I don't appear to be.
[08:11] <Ben64> when you click on the nm icon, does it show the connection you edited as being connected?
[08:11] <emitattuo> Ben64, I forgot to add that this occurs regardless of interface - wired or wireless gives the same DNS issue.  Yes, it does show it as connected.
[08:13] <Ben64> emitattuo: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[08:14] <auronandace2> !resolvconf
[08:14] <emitattuo> Ben64, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[08:15] <Ben64> emitattuo: uh...
[08:15] <user_____> how do I add radeon.ko into initramfs and make it load on boot? monitor does not show anything at all before X start
[08:16] <Ben64> user_____: you don't
[08:17] <slappymcfry> user_____: Add radeon to Modules="" in mkinitcpio.conf and rerun mkinitcpio. This will enable early KMS
[08:20] <emitattuo> Ben64, in the system Network Settings manager GUI the field for DNS Servers is empty.  Is that to be expected?
[08:20] <Ben64> emitattuo: you never finished pasting the ls -l line
[08:21] <emitattuo> Ben64, Oh, sorry.  30 12 3 12:39 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:21] <Ben64> looks like you've messed with that file
[08:22] <emitattuo> Ben64, the contents of it are only "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[08:23] <Ben64> are you actually running ubuntu?
[08:23] <user_____> slappymcfry, "find /etc -name mkinitcpio.conf" shows nothing
[08:23] <emitattuo> Ben64, Yes, I am.  15.10 Wily.
[08:24] <Ben64> like real actually called ubuntu, not mint, not johnbuntu, not debian, arch, redhat, suse
[08:26] <emitattuo> Ben64, As far as I remember, I installed standard Ubuntu.  I did do some customization to the DE, but I believe the base is still stock Ubuntu.
[08:27] <Ben64> well /etc/resolv.conf is supposed to be a symlink to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[08:27] <Ben64> something you did changed that, so i'm not sure what that was or what to suggest for you
[08:28] <emitattuo> Ben64, I do see that /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf exists and inside it under the comments is namesetver 127.0.0.1.
[08:29] <namin> من منكم يتكلم العربي
[08:29] <Ben64> you can try "sudo rm /etc/resolv.conf; sudo ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:29] <Ben64> no guarantees
[08:32] <emitattuo> Ben64, thanks.  I'll give it a try.
[08:35] <emitattuo> Ben64, that seemed to do the job!  Thanks again!
[08:35] <Ben64> !yay | emitattuo
[08:40] <slappymcfry> user_____: I mistook the channel for #archlinux. mkinitcpio is not a debian tool. You'll want to look at /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and update-initramfs. plenty of info in the man pages
[08:41] <CoolGamrSms> anyone knowledgeable about networking that would want to help me out?
[08:41] <Ben64> CoolGamrSms: ask your question and find out
[08:43] <CoolGamrSms> fair enough. I have an ubuntu server running an openSSH server and an openVPN client, but I'd like ssh connections to go 'around' the VPN instead of trying (and failing) to go through it
[08:48] <abolfazl1231> hi.I have a program.for run it i should run a "./exm.sh" file in terminal.Is it possible add a icon for it in luncher?
[08:51] <slappymcfry> abolfazl1231: you can use a menu editor like menulibre. I'm sure there are other methods, apart from writing a .desktop file yourself.
[08:54] <CoolGamrSms> I'
[08:54] <CoolGamrSms> I've read that my problem can be solved by adding a static route in the kernel but none of the answers i've found were very clear on how to do that
[08:58] <slappymcfry> CoolGamrSms: do you have additional network interfaces on the machine?
[08:59] <CoolGamrSms> just eth0 and tun0 which is being created by openvpn
[08:59] <CoolGamrSms> I think the problem is the ssh traffic is going through tun0 and I don't know how to change it :p
[09:03] <slappymcfry> CoolGamrSms: It's a bit out of my league, I think the term you're looking for is "split tunnelling".
[09:05] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: all your traffic is being routed through the tunnel?
[09:06] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: you could have a look at the output of 'ip r s' which will show you the routing table
[09:06] <CoolGamrSms> the routing table is 2 entries, but becomes a lot more complicated when I start the vpn client
[09:07] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: does it say that 'default' is going through the VPN interface?
[09:07] <CoolGamrSms> yes
[09:08] <abolfazl1231> slappymcfry,Is it possible I install that like windows?
[09:08] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: in any case, you could add a static route using 'ip r add' and have the endpoint routed through the eth* interface, rather than the VPN interface
[09:10] <CoolGamrSms> hmm. are the entries in the routing table ordered by anything in particular?
[09:12] <abolfazl1231> slappymcfry,Is it possible I install that like windows?
[09:15] <slappymcfry> abolfazl1231: I don't understand. Install what like windows?
[09:16] <abolfazl1231> the package
[09:18] <slappymcfry> abolfazl1231: I can be more helpful if I knew which package you're referring to. Is it just a shell script?
[09:19] <abolfazl1231> yes.its a shell script in a package.
[09:19] <CoolGamrSms> bramgn: I'm still not sure what params I use to create the route
[09:19] <abolfazl1231> it's android-studio.I download that and i run that with the script
[09:19] <qqqqq> is their anything you can use besides grep
[09:20] <blabla> qqqqq: awk
[09:20] <slappymcfry> abolfazl1231: All installation should be done via the package manager. In the case of Ubuntu, it's dpkg (apt-get). Packages are distributed in the form of .deb files or preferrable hosted repositories.
[09:20] <abolfazl1231> can I compile that?
[09:20] <abolfazl1231> to .deb?
[09:21] <blabla> !checkinstall | abolfazl1231
[09:21] <slappymcfry> blabla: nifty!
[09:21] <Dynetrekk1> hi, I f*ed up and made xfce my display manager (kubuntu). How do I get the kde thingy back?
[09:21] <Dynetrekk1> or KDM or QT or whatever, sorry for not remembering the correct acronym
[09:22] <cfhowlett> Dynetrekk1, kubuntu uses KDM
[09:22] <qqqqq> If the driver for your hardware is only in RPM is it possible to compile using source
[09:22] <abolfazl1231> thanks of All.I try that now:)
[09:22] <Dynetrekk1> cfhowlett: how do I make it my display manager then? 14.04 kubuntu
[09:23] <slappymcfry> abolfazl1231: Keep in mind, this would not create a launcher for you. You still need a .desktop file created. These are placed system-wide in /usr/share/applications or per-user in ~/.local/share/applications
[09:23] <cfhowlett> Dynetrekk1, sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[09:23] <Dynetrekk1> cfhowlett: thanks
[09:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[09:23] <abolfazl1231> slappymcfry,ok
[09:24] <Dynetrekk1> cfhowlett: looks great so far, rebooting!
[09:24] <cfhowlett> Dynetrekk1, log out,  choose kde session, login
[09:25] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: sorry i was afk for a bit
[09:26] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: the output lines of 'ip r s' will be valid as input for 'ip r add' so you can adjust to your situation
[09:27] <slappymcfry> Could someone give me some insight on how system services are managed for the ubuntu container images? The wily release has systemd as PID1 but dbus isn't included, so systemctl doesn't work.
[09:27] <bramgn> CoolGamrSms: then give it a lower metric value in order for the kernel to decide to use that route for that particular host
[09:28] <CoolGamrSms> bramgn: mind if I pastebin the before and after routing table so you can help a bit more specifically?
[09:28] <rilleh> So I just rebooted my server and it took about 30 minutes to respond again
[09:29] <rilleh> dmesg does not reveal anything suspicious
[09:29] <rilleh> Where else can I look?
[09:29] <rilleh> A reboot usually takes under five minutes, I thought I'd lost it
[09:29] <slappymcfry> rilleh: which version of Ubuntu?
[09:30] <rilleh> 15.10
[09:30] <rilleh> I figured maybe it did a fsck on my btrfs raid but it seems that is not the case either
[09:31] <slappymcfry> rilleh: try `systemd-analyze blame`
[09:31] <rilleh> Thanks, nothing suspicious there either
[09:32] <slappymcfry> rilleh: do you know if it was the shutdown that took long and not the boot?
[09:33] <rilleh> slappymcfry: After `sudo reboot` it threw me out of my ssh session immediately
[09:33] <rilleh> But sure, that could be the case I guess
[09:34] <slappymcfry> rilleh: if it happens again, maybe this could be useful: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#shutdowncompleteseventually
[09:35] <CoolGamrSms> bramgn: I sent you the pastebin
[09:36] <rilleh> slappymcfry: Thank you very much
[09:37] <wardenclyffe> hello, how do i stop ubuntu-gnome from going to sleep screen when i am watching a video?
[09:38] <slappymcfry> wardenclyffe: There is a utility called caffiene
[09:39] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: the player should do that automatically. i guess you are using flash?
[09:39] <StatelessCat> hey
[09:40] <StatelessCat> on a Xubuntu 15.04, i have unfortunatly done a 'apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^'. How i can revert this and remove all installed packages and get back ?
[09:40] <wardenclyffe> i am using flash, mostly (though sometimes other players)
[09:40] <blabla> StatelessCat: get the list of packages from /var/log/apt/history.log and unless them
[09:40] <hateball> StatelessCat: 15.04 is EOL, move to 15.10. As for removing.. ^
[09:41] <wardenclyffe> shouldn't that be a feature for everyone? who doesn't watch a video from time to time?
[09:42] <wardenclyffe> also, that extension is global - meaning if i stop watching something, the standby will not work, unless i actively disable the extension.
[09:42] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: as i said. a proper player does this, like totem, vlc, ..... but the flash webplayers cant do that
[09:43] <wardenclyffe> k1l_: yea. I think on windows flash player does do that..
[09:44] <StatelessCat> blabla | StatelessCat: get the list of packages from /var/log/apt/history.log and unless them --> is it save to apt-get remove all of them ?
[09:44] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: and honestly: flash is a that big mess of a security issue you dont want that to have rights to do anything on your system.
[09:45] <slappymcfry> wardenclyffe: https://xkcd.com/619/ Honestly, just remove flash. It's not worth the trouble.
[09:45] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: all the good video sites use html5 video these days, don't need flash for that
[09:45] <wardenclyffe> k1l_: yea, but when i disable it I get some JWPlayer in several places - I don't know how to turn that off since it is not in the FF plugins.
[09:46] <slappymcfry> wardenclyffe: JWPlayer is an html5 player.
[09:46] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: jwplayer is a html5 wrapper, not a plugin
[09:46] <blabla> StatelessCat: i guess so, does it mention only what it added or everything?
[09:46] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: so you can only temporarily disable the screen shutdown
[09:46] <wardenclyffe> Triffld_Hunter: so that means it is just regular HTML5 and is safe?
[09:47] <slappymcfry> wardenclyffe: much, much, much safer than flash.
[09:47] <wardenclyffe> unfortunately i need flash for some work/study videos.
[09:48] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: it's as safe as your browser's sandbox, most of which are pretty watertight these days
[09:48] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: you can often get the raw mp4 if you view source or inspect the DOM tree with firebug or similar
[09:48] <Triffid_Hunter> I have a shell script that strips the url for raw video from sites like youtube, it's pretty handy
[09:49] <wardenclyffe> okay, so another question is this: when i cancelled flash i got the html5 option by default. but when i set flash to "ask me" then i don't get the html5 option at all.
[09:50] <wardenclyffe> raw mp4 would be best
[09:51] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: sounds like a great time to have multiple browsers, one with flash plugin disabled that you use for regular browsing, and another with it enabled specifically for whatever sites you're using that haven't realised that flash is dead yet
[09:52] <wardenclyffe> sound excellent, maybe i should give chrome a chance anyway, just for this :) also heard their flash is better or something..
[09:52] <wardenclyffe> brb
[09:52] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: chrome javascript is super fast but chrome is a colossal memory hog compared to FF
[09:53] <wardenclyffe> my xchat-gnome is terribly laggy for some reason in reading what i type today..
[09:53] <Gibbs`Taf> Hi
[09:53] <Triffid_Hunter> last time I cleaned my tabs in FF I had 1150, chrome takes the same amount of memory with like 15 tabs :/
[09:53] <wardenclyffe> though rest of the desktop works quickly
[09:54] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, xchat is abandonware.  hexchat is the recommended fork
[09:54] <Triffid_Hunter> wardenclyffe: xchat is abandoned, no? hexchat is a newer fork, but I much prefer kvirc
[09:54] <wardenclyffe> ah thanks!
[09:54] <Gibbs`Taf> I've one problem with bluetooth on Ubuntu Gnome 15.10
[09:55] <Gibbs`Taf> I can't enable the blueetoth
[09:56] <wardenclyffe> back on hexchat now
[09:57] <wardenclyffe> cant find the "dark" setting for hexchat right now.
[09:58] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, yeah, color themes are very weakly supported.  download the theme, add it to your .config exit and restart
[09:58] <Gibbs`Taf> How I can enable bluetooth please ?
[09:59] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hello, anybody knows what package I need to install in order to have the ffmpeg command in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Ccdc_DuckZ, use avconv instead.  ffmpeg is available after 14.04
[10:00] <Ccdc_DuckZ> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[10:01] <wardenclyffe> i have a .hct file, but i dont know where is my .config folder.
[10:01] <homa> hi my friends
[10:01] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: check `rfkill list`
[10:01] <Ccdc_DuckZ> cfhowlett: is that the package name? because I can't find that with apt-cache search
[10:01] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, .confg/hexchat
[10:01] <cfhowlett> Ccdc_DuckZ, libav-tools
[10:01] <StatelessCat> blabla | StatelessCat: i guess so, does it mention only what it added or everything? --> that's where i'm not sure.
[10:02] <StatelessCat> Aristide: what the hell are you doing here ?
[10:02] <Ccdc_DuckZ> cfhowlett: ok found it now
[10:03] <StatelessCat> when i'm doing ' apt-get --simulate remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' it's just flooding... Very freaky.
[10:03] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> asus-bluetooth: Bluetoot -> No and No
[10:03] <StatelessCat> i need autoremove ?
[10:03] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, https://gist.github.com/Selmac/9cbc826b702b02748ebd
[10:03] <wardenclyffe> i pasted the file into the config folder
[10:04] <wardenclyffe> how do i actually choose it as the theme?
[10:04] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: what are you using to connect?
[10:04] <wardenclyffe> (i copied an .hct file go .config/hexchat
[10:05] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, logout/login to hexchat
[10:05] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, sorry.  close / restart
[10:07] <wardenclyffe> okay thanks.
[10:08] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> I haven't understood your question
[10:10] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, I was wrong.  as I said, *weakly* supported themes.   extract colors.conf from the hct file and place it in .conf/hexchat
[10:11] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: How are you trying to connect to devices?
[10:11] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: Which utility?
[10:12] <Gibbs`Taf> I would like connect my headphones
[10:12] <Gibbs`Taf> for listen music
[10:13] <artisanIndia> I want a virtual ubuntu machine with GUI
[10:14] <artisanIndia> is there any such hosting provider who does that
[10:14] <artisanIndia> ?
[10:14] <k1l_> artisanIndia: use virtualbox?
[10:14] <Ben64> or install vnc
[10:14] <artisanIndia> do you know baout etherape
[10:14] <Gibbs`Taf> I've a Beats Studio Wireless and I would like try to connect with the bluetooth on my laptop
[10:15] <g105b> artisanIndia such a badly named product
[10:15] <Triffid_Hunter> artisanIndia: you can do that on any VPS host you like, don't need a video card in the machine for various incarnations of remote desktop
[10:15] <k1l_> artisanIndia: etherape is a total different thing
[10:15] <Ben64> artisanIndia: might help if you explained your actual goals
[10:16] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: what about it is not working?
[10:17] <artisanIndia> I want to monitor torrent traffic while downloading the movie/series
[10:17] <k1l_> artisanIndia: the torrent client should provide such a thing
[10:17] <artisanIndia> but if I want to make sure that the list of ips connected to my computer are for that particular movie/series I have run one torrent at a time
[10:17] <Gibbs`Taf> I can't enable bluetooth, I can't detect devices
[10:18] <Gibbs`Taf> and connect my headphone
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !patience | gibbs
[10:19] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: You could try using Blueman instead http://askubuntu.com/a/259417/28071
[10:20] <wardenclyffe> couldn't find the mp4 using firebug :)
[10:21] <wardenclyffe> but i did uninstall my flash
[10:22] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> Ok, I try
[10:23] <wardenclyffe> the strange thing was that earlier when i clicked the same link, i got an mp4 stream.
[10:23] <wardenclyffe> (before i had any flash on computer)
[10:23] <wardenclyffe> but now i get the JWPlayer thing.
[10:24] <abolfazl1231> how I can set tor for androidstudio(I know here not for androidstudio but I dont find any answer for that in the android-studio channel).see thishttp://uupload.ir/files/nvvj_screenshot_from_2016-02-11_11-43-31.png
[10:28] <wardenclyffe> is gnome 3.18 coming to ubuntu?
[10:29] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: some day, yes
[10:29] <wardenclyffe> but currently, 3.16 is the supported gnome right?
[10:30] <k1l_> depends on the release you are using
[10:30] <cfhowlett> wardenclyffe, I generally don't stream video.  the firefox plugin "video download helper" grabs video from most sites for viewing on demand
[10:30] <wardenclyffe> i have the non stable last one.
[10:32] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: "lsb_release -d"
[10:33] <wardenclyffe> 15.10
[10:33] <wardenclyffe> my gnome is 3.16.4
[10:36] <Zulu_Too> Hey guys a tech tip here. Comcast blocks port 25   Use Port 587 for smtp.comcast.net
[10:39] <k1l_> wardenclyffe: see this PPA https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging?field.series_filter=wily
[10:40] <Zulu_Too> K1l nice to see you again. How are you today?
[10:41] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> No adapter found
[10:42] <Gibbs`Taf> with blueman
[10:43] <StatelessCat> here is my logs of what i have installed with ' apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' : http://ix.io/oju , when doing ' apt-get --simulate remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' this is just removing too many packages :/
[10:43] <StatelessCat> is it safe to juste remove the list of installed packages ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> stateless what is your goal??
[10:44] <Zulu_Too> Hey Guys have you tried this for a gag.    apt-get moo       <------------------------<
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, stop.
[10:44] <StatelessCat> or cfhowlett my goal is to "undo" a  ' apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' on my xubuntu 15.04 :/
[10:44] <Zulu_Too> Stop what?
[10:44] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: i don't know how to do it without breaking everything
[10:45] <bazhang> Zulu_Too, take the chit chat elsewhere
[10:45] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, got it.  sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <razor_> would anyone mind assisting me i want to uninstall megasync and i didnt install it through the software center
[10:45] <Zulu_Too> It is an Ubuntu Easter Egg.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, didn't ask.  don't care.  it's off-topic in this channel. thank you.
[10:45] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: what is the adapter. your rfkill mentions asus, but what is the chipset? is it integrated with your wifi?
[10:45] <bazhang> how was it installed razor_
[10:46] <Zulu_Too> I didn't know that you were elevating yourselves above others. I must be in the wrong channel then.
[10:46] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: do you take in consideration that I have stupidly do ' apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' and NOT ' apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ' (note the ^ at last) ? :/ sorry for beaing a noob with apt :/
[10:46] <razor_> not sure exactly i cant remember whether i installed it with apt-get or through their website
[10:47] <bazhang> razor_, look for their removal/uninstall guide
[10:47] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> It's a Mediatec MT7630e, it's integrated with wifi
[10:47] <Gibbs`Taf> Mediatek*
[10:47] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, ahhh.  (resists the urge to ask why). so >>> sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <razor_> okay thanks and is there a chat channel for writing code and challenges and such?
[10:48] <bazhang> ##programming perhaps razor_
[10:48] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: i'm afraid that the semantic of the ^ after ubuntu-gnome-desktop is different between apt-get install and apt-get remove or purge :/
[10:48] <razor_> thanks bazhang
[10:48] <bazhang> np
[10:48] <razor_> #programming
[10:49] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, worst case, you render yourself unbootable.  that is why you have already backed up everything and have an ubuntu boot USB nearby.  should this go sideways, boot the USB, chroot to your system and sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: ok, when doing ' apt-get --simulate purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' i got http://ix.io/ojy and the shell does not returning... is it a normal behavior ?
[10:50] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: https://github.com/neurobin/MT7630E DON'T do the chmod & install stuff. FIRST try the last command (dkms)
[10:51] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: i'm worried about apt-get will do some installs when doing ' apt-get purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' , do you think it's ok ?
[10:52] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: ok I will back myself with an USB key
[10:52] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> done
[10:52] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, do remove instead of purge.  you'll still have to autoremove to clean things up
[10:53] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: now `lsmod | grep mt76x0`
[10:53] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: the remove seems just crazy (8MB of output) :/
[10:53] <StatelessCat>  ' apt-get --simulate remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ ' *
[10:54] <StatelessCat> he is removing xserver-xorg-video stuff :/
[10:54] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> nop
[10:55] <cfhowlett> as I understand it, so long as you have the terminal open from the removal/purge, you can immediately chain the installation thus && sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <cfhowlett> we had a similar question last night IIRC
[10:55] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: then `modprobe mt76x0` I don't know if .bin'
[10:56] <slappymcfry> ...is needed.
[10:56] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: ok thakns a lot for your time
[10:56] <cfhowlett> happy2help! StatelessCat
[10:57] <StatelessCat> cfhowlett: really sorry, I will be MORE carefull while installing/removing stuff (using --simulate everytime)
[10:57] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> 2 proposition for mt76 : mt7601u or mt76xx
[10:57] <StatelessCat> so the 15.04 is end of life, no more security fixes ?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, I understand :)         15.04 is DEAD, Jim!
[10:57] <StatelessCat> i'll ask my IT team to install a more recent one or 14.04LTS
[10:58] <cfhowlett> LTS for the win!  comfort them with this: next LTS comes out in April
[10:58] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: try the xx. If unsure, just reboot.
[11:00] <Gibbs`Taf> I try reboot
[11:00] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: looking at the dkms.conf. mt76xx is for bluetooth.
[11:01] <UNIm95> Hi 2 all.  I have small problem. I try to install ubuntu on computer with some old HDD(SMART is OK). Ubuntu 14.04 desktop see this HDD but netinstall and server disk not. WHat schould i do
[11:01] <UNIm95> ?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> UNIm95, try lubuntu ... optimized for legacy hardware
[11:02] <UNIm95> cfhowlett: this "older hdd" is Hitachi SATA from 2008.
[11:02] <Gibbs`Taf> okay, for the modprobe mt76dxx
[11:03] <UNIm95> cfhowlett: this "older hdd" is Hitachi SATA from 2008.
[11:04] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> after the modprobe ?
[11:05] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: now that driver is loaded, adapter should appear.
[11:06] <Guest24422> test
[11:06] <Gibbs`Taf> or not
[11:09] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, nop
[11:11] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: check your dmesg
[11:11] <slappymcfry> did you reboot?
[11:11] <Gibbs`Taf> before or after modprobe?
[11:12] <Gibbs`Taf> before : yes, after : now
[11:12] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: modprobe is not permanent. modules are loaded automatically on boot. reboot and go through your dmesg
[11:16] <homa> i want leave here
[11:17] <k1l_> homa: /part
[11:19] <homa> good bye my friends
[11:20] <Gibbs`Taf> slappymcfry, -> https://gist.github.com/Selmac/c16062283a9533096266
[11:32] <slappymcfry> Gibbs`Taf: I don't have time to sift through your entire dmesg output. I do notice a bunch of call traces. Something is seriously wrong.
[11:39] <homa> hi my friends
[11:45] <LibertyWeNeed> How do I route all traffic and I mean absolutely EVERY single packet of data through a proxy such as HTTP/HTTPS with basic authentication?? Because My colledge uses a HTTP proxy for logins and surveillance, and Ubuntu is useless at colledge if I can't get a solution to fix this.
[11:45] <LibertyWeNeed> I want to be able to use the terminal
[11:45] <LibertyWeNeed> through a proxy
[11:45] <LibertyWeNeed> Or even through TOR
[11:48] <tfisher> Canonical needs to replace grep with ack
[11:48] <homa> good bye my friends
[11:51] <wardclyffe> I get a TPM error or something when I boot Ubuntu Gnome 15.10
[11:51] <wardclyffe> Is it something to worry about?
[11:52] <wardclyffe> TPM error occurred attempting to read a pcr value.
[11:57] <tfisher> Do you have to compile from source every time you install software in Ubuntu?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> tfisher, what?  install from the repos ...
[11:59] <tony__> where am i?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !topic | tony__
[12:00] <k1l_> tfisher: no. ubuntu offers the service of shipping precompiled  packages in the official repos. just use the packagemanagement.
[12:05] <Seminarian>  My ubuntu just froze (sound kept playing), virutal terminals inaccesible
[12:05] <Seminarian> is there a way to detect what caused it so I can fix it?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <baizon> Seminarian: check logs?
[12:06] <Seminarian> baizon: any log in specific? I assume that's /var/log
[12:06] <Seminarian> I was running a program in Play on linux
[12:07] <baizon> Seminarian: check X log and messages
[12:10] <Seminarian> baizon: don't really see something in Xorg.0.log , where to check the x messages?
[12:10] <baizon> Seminarian: syslog
[12:14] <dadical> ubuntu ruined my life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE
[12:15] <cfhowlett> dadical, please don't spam random videos here
[12:16] <dadical> cfhowlett: please don't spam don't spam random video messages
[12:17] <cfhowlett> dadical, this is ubuntu support.  for chitchat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic. also ...
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | dadical
[12:17] <dadical> cfhowlett: please stay on topic
[12:17] <swenzel> while installing printer drivers, the installation process froze... how can I find out what went wrong?
[12:18] <VoidWhisperer> this vm with ubuntu server in it really doesn't like owncloud.. it's installing at 25.2 kb/s on a 300 + mbps connection
[12:38] <momomo> how do I install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg
[12:39] <cfhowlett> momomo, what version of ubuntu?
[12:39] <momomo> 15.10
[12:39] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg, unless you are on 14.04 lts
[12:40] <cfhowlett> momomo, use avconv instead.  install libav-tools
[12:40] <momomo> doesnt work
[12:40] <momomo> i am getting E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/ffmpeg/libavdevice-ffmpeg56_2.7.5-0ubuntu0.15.10.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[12:40] <OerHeks> make sure you have universe repo enabled
[12:40] <Nalaurien> did an apt-get update first?
[12:41] <momomo> cfhowlett, why avconv instead?
[12:41] <popey> also "sudo apt update" first
[12:41] <Nalaurien> ^^
[12:42] <momomo> i think i have the repository enabled already
[12:42] <cfhowlett> " I think ..."
[12:42] <Nalaurien> heh
[12:42] <cfhowlett> more /etc/apt/sources.list < momomo
[12:42] <Seminarian> Do you really have to boot from live-cd to increase system partition size?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> Seminarian, YES
[12:43] <kknight> i want to iunistall particcular software form my system how to do that
[12:43] <cfhowlett> mucking about with partitions while the system is booted and live will kit it.
[12:43] <cfhowlett> kknight, fewer details?  so we can make a totally wild guess, right?
[12:43] <Seminarian> cfhowlett: thanks , see ya rebooting to live =)
[12:44] <momomo> http://pastebin.com/5kNp6M3E
[12:44] <momomo> cfhowlett, http://pastebin.com/5kNp6M3E
[12:44] <nitesh`> I installed a .deb package using sudo dpkg -i abc.deb , how do I cross check if it has got installed successfully or not
[12:44] <Nalaurien> would it make sense to change the properties of the disk youre currently running from?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> momomo, yep, you have universe
[12:45] <cfhowlett> nitesh`, dpkg -l | grep package name
[12:46] <popey> momomo: you only need to "sudo apt update" - your package list is outdated,
[12:46] <k1l_> momomo: please put into a pastebin "apt-cache policy ffmpeg"
[12:46] <popey> momomo: ffmpeg 2.7.5 has been replaced by 2.7.6
[12:46] <popey> about a week ago.
[12:46] <OerHeks> !info ffmpeg
[12:46] <k1l_> momomo: yes, popey is right. you need to run sudo apt update to get a fresh list of what packages are used now on the repo servers
[12:46] <momomo> yes, worked to install now after
[12:46] <momomo> update
[12:47] <popey> momomo: excellent.
[12:48] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:49] <ph88> how can i know when this package was updated? http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/lemon
[12:50] <k1l_> ph88: click on the "ubuntu changelog" on the right side of that website
[12:50] <ph88> ok thx
[12:56] <kknight> i  want to uninstall ruby
[12:56] <Nalaurien> why
[12:57] <kknight> how to do that
[12:59] <kknight> i  want to uninstall ruby
[12:59] <kknight> i  ahver typed sudo apt-get remove ruby1.9.1
[12:59] <Nalaurien> try just sudo apt-get remove ruby
[12:59] <kknight> still when i  type ruby -v it says
[12:59] <Nalaurien> dont specify the version
[12:59] <Nalaurien> see if that works
[12:59] <Nalaurien> also look at the purge flags
[12:59] <Nalaurien> see if thats what you need
[13:00] <kknight> still
[13:00] <kknight> what is purge flags?
[13:00] <rilleh> apt-get remove --purge
[13:00] <rilleh> ?
[13:00] <Nalaurien> yeh
[13:01] <StatelessCat> 20160211-11:58:12 cfhowlet+| LTS for the win!  comfort them with this: next LTS comes out in April --> so installing a 14.04 LTS now is not a very good idea ?
[13:02] <Nalaurien> dunno, dpenends on what you need to do
[13:02] <k1l_> StatelessCat: sure. you can upgrade from 14.04 to the 16.04 when the 16.04.1 is released
[13:03] <cfhowlett> StatelessCat, I only do LTS so yeah, I'd say 14.04.3 > 16.04.1 sounds like a plan.
[13:04] <cfhowlett> no reason not to install LTS now if that works for you.  or go with 15.10 > 16.04.  your choice.  I avoid bloody edge releases
[13:05] <k1l_> StatelessCat: people tend to not think about upgrades. and on a non-LTS you need to upgrade after 9 months after release. that gives you a timeframe of 3 months to do the upgrade. on lts you have a timeframe of 3 years to do the upgrade.
[13:08] <Nalaurien> @cfhowlett << this
[13:08] <Nalaurien> the problem is upgrading and doing all the work to move over to a newer version to find out you need to do it again in a day
[13:10] <killtheclock> guys when i zoom a picture in ubuntu its always a bit blurry but when iam using windows is very sharp
[13:10] <killtheclock> why is that heppend
[13:11] <cfhowlett> killtheclock, check the drivers on your GPU
[13:11] <killtheclock> iam using the latest nvidia drivers
[13:11] <killtheclock> the colors from the interface of ubuntu are perfect
[13:12] <killtheclock> or in the browser
[13:12] <cfhowlett> killtheclock, so "pictures" are viewed where?
[13:12] <killtheclock> ok w8
[13:13] <killtheclock> iam using the default image viewer
[13:13] <Nalaurien> brb
[13:16] <dannymichel> my ssh user seems to output weird characters like '^[[A’ when i press up to go to history of commands and also starts at just $ rather than a username like dmichel@s:~$
[13:21] <Nalaurien> that means the console is not done processing the last request
[13:22] <Nalaurien> it does that when its expecting responses
[13:22] <Nalaurien> yoru up arrow means a different thing then
[13:22] <Seminarian> hey guys, I'm currently on a live-dvd doing some partition resizes with Gparted
[13:22] <Nalaurien> when its done, it will return to normal input
[13:23] <Seminarian> 50 GB shrink of sda1 (ntfs) then adding it to sda2 (swap) and then finally adding the50 GB to SDA3.. Any idea how long it will take? hours?
[13:23] <Seminarian> SDA3 is my ubuntu system partition so I assume I'll best chroot after gparted is finished and reinstall grub2?
[13:23] <Seminarian> It's an UEFI dualboot system winh windows
[13:23] <Seminarian> *with
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Seminarian, resizing partitions ... depending on ram and processing speed, could be hours
[13:24] <Azis> Planing dual booting with windows?
[13:25] <dannymichel> Nalaurien: happens no matter how long i wast or reboot
[13:25] <dannymichel> wait*
[13:25] <dannymichel> only for one particular user it happens Nalaurien
[13:26] <Seminarian> cfhowlett, fuck.. really :o
[13:26] <cfhowlett> no need for such language and not allowed at all ever
[13:26] <Seminarian> Sorry
[13:26] <cfhowlett> and it totally puts the lie to your nick
[13:27] <Seminarian> cfhowlett, :-)
[13:27] <Seminarian> cfhowlett, do you think i'll have to reinstall grub2 on my system partition?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> update grub almost certainly ...
[13:29] <Seminarian> okay thanks
[13:30] <killtheclock> exit
[13:33] <NYTimes> did someone here ever flashed ubuntu on a samsung galaxy tab s t800 ?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !touch | NYTimes wrong channel
[13:34] <NYTimes> cfhowlett: nope
[13:35] <k1l_> NYTimes: you mean the regular desktop?
[13:36] <NYTimes> k1l_: the whole os
[13:36] <NYTimes> full install
[13:37] <k1l_> NYTimes: ok. installing a OS onto a ARM tablet is not like putting a CD into a PC and having all working. you need to grab drivers, make it bootable, etc etc. and then you have a non-touch desktop running on a touch only hardware.
[13:38] <k1l_> NYTimes: tl;dr  look at xda forums if there is a working port and what are the experiences with that.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !arm  | or this?
[13:39] <NYTimes> k1l_: thank you
[13:41] <noneya> So, im having an issue where I my samba share is showing empty in windows
[13:45] <tfisher> When ever I enter sudo dnf install firefox into the terminal it won't install firefox
[13:45] <schang_> Hi
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> noneya  what ubuntu vesion? what windows version? did it work before? more details...
[13:45] <cfhowlett> tfisher, do this:  cat /etc/issue | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> tfisher  try sudo apt install
[13:46] <schang_> I just did a do-release-upgrade -d and now I am stuck with errors like "this depends on that however...."
[13:46] <schang_> I ahve tried a series of dpkg-reconfigure and apt-get -f install but that did not help
[13:46] <k1l_> schang_: you know what the "-d" is for?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> schang_  -d means development ... what are you tryiong to do?
[13:46] <noneya> Sorry, I gotta run.  I'll try to come back later and figure this out.  Thanks
[13:47] <schang_> well initially I was on ubuntu 14.something and tried do-release-upgrade
[13:47] <schang_> that didnt work
[13:47] <cfhowlett> schang_, you upgrade ... to an *alpha* release.  don't know why, but support for that is only in #ubuntu+1
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> schang_  14.04 or 14.10 ? 14.10 is dead
[13:47] <cfhowlett> and thank you for volunteering to beta test!
[13:47] <schang_> it said there was no available upgrade... after googling and trying probably a little too fast what I found (using -d)
[13:47] <k1l_> schang_: you rae running a wrong command. that might have messed your whole system.
[13:48] <schang_> k1l_ and guess there si no going back, right ?
[13:48] <gagalicious> for partman, d-i settings, how do i specify inode settings for the drives to be formatted? is this a valid question here? i'm asking about the preseed.cfg but cant find an example online
[13:48] <k1l_> schang_: 14.10 is dead since july last year. so you are late for the regular upgrade. you would have needed an !EOL upgrade.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> schang_, no roll back.  reinstall 14.04.3 or 15.10
[13:48] <k1l_> schang_: what is "lsb_release -d" now?
[13:49] <schang_> k1l_ Description:	Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (development branch)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> k1l_, that would be 16.04
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> schang_  16.04 is not ready
[13:49] <k1l_> schang_: ok, your system is now on 16.04 which is in alpha state. i dont think there is an easy fix.
[13:50] <schang_> still does that mean (because it is a develomment branch) that it should no work at all ?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> schang_,  it's still being built.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> schang_, 16.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[13:50] <k1l_> schang_: you jumped over the 15.04 and 15.10 installs on the upgrade. that had some deep changes like introducing systemd etc.
[13:50] <schang_> cfhowlett: right but there has got to be people using it and those are probably not stuck the way I am
[13:51] <k1l_> schang_: i am running a 16.04 right now. but your issue is the wrong upgrade. that broke your system
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> schang_  type  /j #ubuntu+1
[13:51] <cfhowlett> schang_, alpha release.  not even a beta release.  you are trying to drive across country and we're still installing the tires and electrical system
[13:51] <BluesKaj> lots of 15.10 users and they're dealing with systemd quite successfully
[13:53] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett,  i disagree withtat analogy :-)  more like no gps  or roadmaps only some directions
[13:53] <schang_> alright: so I have no choice but to reinstall, right ? can I just no try to grab the stuff (i.e., this depends on that however...) it is requesting from other repositories
[13:53] <cfhowlett> schang_, if you accept that you are using a PRE-release product and adjust your expectations, go for it.  otherwise, 14.04 or 15.10 are our only choices.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, ... fair point
[13:54] <xubuntu01w> Can someone help me mount a NTFS drive in RO mode.
[13:55] <k1l_> schang_: you could look at the exact errors and see what the cause is. and try to fix it. but that could be a lot of effort and in the end there is no guarantee for success at all.
[13:55] <c343> hello everyone
[13:59] <Seminarian> #ubuntu
[13:59] <xubuntu01w> Can anyone help me mount this old windows drive?
[13:59] <Seminarian> My usb mouse and keyboard don't work anymore (usb ports work) I'm trying the apt-get install --reinstal xserver-xorg-input-all command but I get these errors http://pastebin.com/3wjsvNgU what's the fix?
[14:00] <g105b> In Unity Tweak Tools, I can configure the launcher to be opaque, but how do I make the search panel background opaque?
[14:01] <g105b> This is for a slow computer that doesn't like unity. Removing background blur on the search panel helps loads, but it makes it quite difficult to read against text behind it.
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> g105b  also in unity tweak: launcher > search > blur
[14:02] <g105b> MonkeyDust: I don't see any option for opacity: http://i.imgur.com/BKfeS7L.png
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> g105b  blur on/of
[14:03] <g105b> MonkeyDust: still no option for opacity with blur on : http://i.imgur.com/uE1qVaa.png
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> g105b  blur is the closest you'll get
[14:04] <g105b> closest to what? opacity?
[14:05] <punk_> x
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> g105b  yah, switching it on/off ... just looked in dconf-editor ... no way to change opacity for the search tool either
[14:12] <nitesh`> ON installing a .deb package, I see many dependency issues, do I need to install all the dependencies one by one? is there any way to install all the dependencies that the package needs before the actual package installation starts
[14:12] <hateball> nitesh`: why are you using random deb files instead of downloading from the package manager
[14:12] <cfhowlett> nitesh`, installing by deb is to be avoided.  install via software center or package manager
[14:12] <OerHeks> nitesh`, normally when you encounter dependencie issues, apt-get install -f would solve these in a 2nd run
[14:13] <OerHeks> some do like the risky side of installing a deb from *somewhere*
[14:13] <nitesh`> cfhowlett, : No GUI so no software center..
[14:13] <rilleh> nitesh`: apt-get build-dep
[14:14] <cfhowlett> nitesh`, package manager includes apt
[14:15] <nitesh`> OerHeks, : that worked , cool. THnx
[14:15] <nitesh`> cfhowlett: oh ok, thnx :-)
[14:16] <cfhowlett> happy2help! nitesh`
[14:21] <zombieguy85> goodbye windows 10 hello linux peoples
[14:25] <dragonbite> *wave*
[14:28] <MackDoms> Hey.. Bad new.. My ubuntu won't boot (system partition on dev/sda) .. My windows will boot (/dev/sdb located) and I can't read my D: in windows which is located on dev/sda.. I did a partition resize today on /dev/sda with gparted from live-dvd.. Is there anyway to save repair my hard disk?
[14:28] <ikonia> MackDoms: so that makes no sense
[14:29] <MackDoms> ikonia, how so?
[14:29] <ikonia> how can your windows D:\ be the same disk as your linux root
[14:29] <ikonia> unless you are missing partition information in the description
[14:29] <MackDoms> sda1 is my ntfs
[14:29] <dragonbite> so you used gparted to resize disk #1 which has Linux and D:?
[14:29] <MackDoms> sda3 is my ubuntu system
[14:29] <MackDoms> yes sdb is my SSD disk
[14:30] <MackDoms> sda is a 1TB hard disk
[14:30] <BluesKaj> MackDoms, BIOS or UEFI ?
[14:30] <ikonia> MackDoms: so what happens when you boot ?
[14:30] <MackDoms> UEFI
[14:30] <ikonia> (linux)
[14:31] <BluesKaj> !UEFI
[14:31] <dragonbite> interesting partition scheme... I guess
[14:31] <MackDoms> Last time I tried to boot ikonia it just gave purple screen (still from bootloader I guess)
[14:31] <dragonbite> so disk #1 (sda) is not accessible anymore and the ony thing you chagned was resizing the disk
[14:31] <ikonia> I don't think the purple screen is a boot loader
[14:31] <MackDoms> The time before it said something about can't load /boot/efi
[14:31] <xubuntu01w> Can someone help me mount a NTFS from an old windows machine
[14:32] <ikonia> sounds like your disks partitions are all over the place
[14:32] <dragonbite> where is grub (sdb?)
[14:32] <MackDoms> Is there a tool to check and repair the hard disk?
[14:32] <MackDoms> I'd assume grub is on sdb since there is my ESP
[14:32] <BluesKaj> MackDoms,  your grub isn't installed to the uefi partition most likely
[14:33] <BluesKaj> boot partition
[14:33]  * BluesKaj despises the uefi
[14:33] <MackDoms> What should I do?
[14:34] <dragonbite> you could try booting up to a live USB and see if you can access sda
[14:34] <dragonbite> it could be gparted messed up your partition tables
[14:34] <MackDoms> It sure looks like it
[14:34] <dragonbite> and that is not good (not the end of the world, but not good for sleeping at night) ;)
[14:34] <MackDoms> Since "Minitool partition wizard" in windows still detects the 3 partitions on the hard disk
[14:35] <MackDoms> So what should I do when I can or can't access from live dvd?
[14:35] <robb_nl> MackDoms, I'd make a priority of creating a backup of all the data using a live cd....
[14:35] <dragonbite> I just am not sure how to access the data on a bad-partitioned hard drive for taking the disk off and rebuilding the drive but I am sure there is a way
[14:35] <django_> hey all
[14:36] <django_> i downloaded ubuntu on this laptop like 2 years ago how do i go about updating it
[14:36] <MackDoms> robb_nl, ok if i can access it from the live dvd
[14:36] <hateball> django_: What version are you running?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> django_, first: open a terminal
[14:36] <cfhowlett> cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <Nalaurien> dragonbite> the usual practice is to clone the drive byte per byte, get the drive fixed, or throw it out then do forensics
[14:37] <django_> ubuntu `1.04
[14:37] <django_> 12.04 **
[14:37] <MackDoms> There isn't a tool that can analyse and repair the partion table?
[14:37] <dragonbite> I wish
[14:37] <cfhowlett> django_, still supported.  first do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:38] <cfhowlett> django_, after that sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:38] <django_> ok so my main issue is that i have a dual graphics card with this laptop
[14:38] <Nalaurien> there are a few programs and tools out there for forensics, but on a bad drive you risk having it brick while you do stuff
[14:38] <django_> so it over heats :/
[14:38] <django_> maybe i can remove the graphics card?
[14:38] <Nalaurien> though it depends on wether or not its a hardware or info problem
[14:39] <MackDoms> Nalaurien, is there a way I can discover the issue exactly?
[14:39] <Nalaurien> What is it youre experiencing
[14:39] <xubuntu01w> I have a NTFS drive that came from a dead Windows 7 machine, I am trying to mount, The drive is flagged as unsafe state.
[14:39] <Nalaurien> trying to mount to linux?
[14:40] <django_> its sudo apt-get full upgrade right?
[14:40] <xubuntu01w> Yea
[14:40] <cfhowlett> django_, that's the other method.  apt is replacing apt-get
[14:40] <django_> it says apt not found
[14:40] <Nalaurien> do you have the exact output?
[14:41] <django_> sudo apt full upgrade
[14:41] <django_> sudo: apt: command not found
[14:41] <cfhowlett> django_, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:41] <hateball> cfhowlett: apt isnt available in 12.04 iirc
[14:41] <hateball> 14.04 and on
[14:41] <cfhowlett> !  right!  that
[14:41] <xubuntu01w> Nalaurien me?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> django_, sorry.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <cfhowlett> thanks hateball
[14:42] <dragonbite> just about to mention "apt-get"
[14:42] <geetar> Question:  I bricked my system by accidentally moving a necessary file from /boot.  I put it on an encrypted home directory and need to put it back.  How do I get access to my encrypted /home directory.  I have the password.
[14:42] <Nalaurien> ok
[14:42] <hateball> cfhowlett: :)
[14:42]  * Nalaurien xubuntu01w
[14:42] <geetar> I have the computer booted to the liveCD
[14:44] <xubuntu01w> nalaurien the machine doesnt have access to the internet so I will have to manually type it out
[14:44] <xubuntu01w> It might take a while
[14:44] <Nalaurien> ah
[14:44] <xubuntu01w> Doesnt detect my wifi adapter atm.
[14:44] <Nalaurien> put it this way, if you plug it in and it does nothing, then you try stuff and it yells at you
[14:44] <Nalaurien> you may have hardware issues
[14:44] <Nalaurien> in which case i would stop doing anything
[14:45] <Nalaurien> and get a drive cloner
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> I can see it on the desktop
[14:45] <django_> i have a lenovo ideapad y470 with two graphics cards
[14:45] <Nalaurien> and only connect it to do that
[14:45] <django_> is there any way ubuntu can handle that>
[14:45] <Nalaurien> so it mounts ok?
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> The drive is fine condition wise.
[14:45] <django_> it runs the graphics as if i were gaming
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> Ubuntu doenst like the fact that windows was on it and it didnt shut down last.
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> Somone helped me mount it last night, but I forgot the command.
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> So im trying agian.
[14:45] <xubuntu01w> Sadly they are offline.
[14:45] <Nalaurien> that shouldnt matter
[14:46] <Nalaurien> linux doesnt care if windows is sad
[14:46] <Nalaurien> in fact i think it makes linux happy
[14:46] <xubuntu01w> lol
[14:46] <xubuntu01w> Well the error is basically saying windows is hibernated refused to mount.
[14:46] <xubuntu01w> non zero exist status 14.
[14:46] <xubuntu01w> mount with read only options.
[14:47] <Nalaurien> wtf
[14:47] <cfhowlett> xubuntu01w, precisely. reboot windows.  do a normal shutdown.  return to ubuntu
[14:47] <barry_> Hello word
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Nalaurien, no need or place for such language here
[14:47] <dragonbite> best bet is going to be to get into the bad drive, copy the files off to a network drive or something so if the ":) hits the fan" the worst case is wipe and recreate the drive
[14:48] <Nalaurien> my bad
[14:48] <dragonbite> I wish I could remember what I did when I had this issue with Windows... darn memory (and I don't mean RAM)!!!
[14:48] <barry_> What initramfs really do?
[14:48] <xubuntu01w> cfhowlett I cannot do that as it is from a old machine that died and has been binned.
[14:49] <cfhowlett> xubuntu01w, then you may probably can't do anything from the ubuntu side.
[14:49] <xubuntu01w> Someone helped me access it last night in read only mode to take things off it.
[14:49] <xubuntu01w> So I know I can access it
[14:49] <Nalaurien> if i tell you to grep the device designation do you know how to do that?
[14:49] <xubuntu01w> I just can't rember the commands -.-
[14:50] <xubuntu01w> doesnt it look like this?
[14:50] <xubuntu01w> grep |
[14:50] <Nalaurien> --# ls /dev/ | grep sd
[14:50] <Nalaurien> what is there?
[14:51] <xubuntu01w> sda sda1 sda2 sda5 sdb sdb1 sdb2
[14:52] <Nalaurien> do you only have two drives connected? the original and the secondary(windows one)?
[14:52] <xubuntu01w> Yes
[14:52] <dragonbite> xubuntu01w: what about disconnecting sdb and running a Windows repair disk to try and put everything "back in line"?  Then reconnect sdb and if the system doesn't boot to that disk use a LIVE sesson to re-configure grub?
[14:52] <Nalaurien> --# cat /media/
[14:52] <Nalaurien> err no
[14:53] <Nalaurien> --# ls /media
[14:53] <xubuntu01w> Comeplete different machine, I doubt it would run
[14:53] <dragonbite> sorry... I mean Nalaurien
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:53] <Nalaurien> Dragonbite> he would need another windows machine, or to disconnect the primary drive connect the second and hope it works somehow and doesnt scream at him for hardware changes
[14:54] <django_> anyone?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> django_  anyone what? start with a question
[14:55] <cfhowlett> django_, restate your issue at 20 minute intervals
[14:55] <django_> i have an ndivida graphics card on my lenovo ideapad y470 i want to know if ubuntu can handle them now
[14:55] <barry_> What initramfs really do? Can I load entire OS on that
[14:55] <django_> when i had installed on this laptop originally there was no soln
[14:55] <django_> and it would over heart
[14:55] <django_> heat*
[14:56] <Nalaurien> xubuntu01w: did you try that one?
[14:56] <xubuntu01w> Nalaurien, The guy that helped me last night has just came online, He should be able to give me the command no issue.
[14:56] <Nalaurien> ok haha
[14:56] <Nalaurien> no problem
[14:56] <xubuntu01w> It was a 1 line command and then the drive was accesable.
[14:56] <xubuntu01w> I will inform you of the command when I get it,.
[14:56] <Nalaurien> sure!
[14:57] <django_> i found this: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch/tree/hack-lenovo
[14:57] <Nalaurien> i just didnt wanna give you a command without knowing anything about the drive otherwise i might not have helped you
[14:57] <Nalaurien> and could have done damage
[14:57] <OerHeks> django_, bumblebee is old, nvidia-prime is current, did you look at the additional driver tool ?
[14:57] <OerHeks> !nvidia
[14:59] <like> hello anybody know how install rosegarden 15-12 on ubuntu 15-10
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> !info rosegarden
[15:01] <OerHeks> like,  buld it yourself, i find no PPA, and 15-12 will be in the Next LTS 16.04 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rosegarden
[15:01] <OerHeks> *build
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> like  wily has version 14.12, if you want something newer, you need a ppa or so, but that's not supported here
[15:02] <like> ok some tutorial searching
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> like  or what OerHeks says, wait until 16.04 xenial is released
[15:03] <OerHeks> their page is out of date, i noticed http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/getting/
[15:04] <like> the problem with this version is they have a bug in multi track recorder
[15:05] <azizLIGHT> Will 16.04 get htop 2?
[15:05] <like> and devel has problems to build https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/mailman/message/10433001/
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> like  there's also #ubuntustudio
[15:06] <like> ok
[15:06] <OerHeks> like LOlz... message from 2002 ?
[15:07] <OerHeks> hard to believe that message is still valid.
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> like  date:  2002-06-15 12:23:26
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> that pre-dates ubuntu
[15:12] <like> i instaled subversion and tired http://pastebin.com/mVCWqvRC
[15:12] <django_> cfhowlett, hey it finished the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:12] <django_> restart?
[15:12] <cfhowlett> django_, no.  this ain't windows, son1
[15:14] <bottazzini> I need to upgrade kernel from 4.2 to 4.4.1. I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS...
[15:14] <bottazzini> Does anyone know an easy way to do this ?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> bottazzini, sudo apt full-upgrade will grab new kernels from the repos
[15:14] <OerHeks> bottazzini, you could use the mainline kernel, but only for testing, no support
[15:14] <OerHeks> !mainline
[15:15]  * OerHeks wonders if 4.4.1 is already there 
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> 3.19 in my 14.04
[15:16] <bottazzini> OerHeks, nice thanks
[15:16] <baizon> OerHeks: ubuntu 16.04 has them, else only in he mainline
[15:16] <bottazzini> MonkeyDust, if you want to upgrade try installing Wily
[15:16] <bottazzini>  OerHeks I saw it here -> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:17] <bottazzini> i tried installing it manually but it didn't work
[15:17] <c_nick> exit
[15:17] <juancri> hello every body
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> bottazzini  nah, i'll stick to LTS... have 16.04 as a vm
[15:18] <bottazzini> MonkeyDust, you can upgrade your LTS Kernel. Thats what I was trying to say...
[15:30] <bottazzini> is it possible to upgrade 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS ?
[15:30] <teward> bottazzini: yes, but i would not - 16.04 is not actually released yet
[15:30] <teward> !ubuntu+1 | bottazzini
[15:30] <cfhowlett> bottazzini, yep.  of course, that would mean "upgrading " to an OS that is not even developed to BETA testing yet
[15:30] <teward> bottazzini: I would NOT do that at this time
[15:30] <baizon> bottazzini: yes, it will be
[15:31] <bottazzini> i see, I was looking at goole and I found this command: do-release-upgrade -d
[15:32] <bottazzini> thanks guys, does anyone know when will it be released ?
[15:32] <baizon> bottazzini: yes it will install the latest (also unstable) version, don't recommend it if you don't want to test stuff and get crashes
[15:32] <baizon> bottazzini: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[15:32] <bottazzini> baizon, Alright... I will wait then to make this upgrade
[15:33] <cfhowlett> using the old wordmark/brandmark??
[15:36] <xubuntu01w> Nalaurien you still here?
[15:36] <Nalaurien> i am but only for a minute
[15:37] <xubuntu01w> I needed this "sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdb2 ~/mnt"
[15:37] <Nalaurien> looks about right
[15:37] <Nalaurien> if you only want that partition that is
[15:37] <Nalaurien> yes
[15:37] <Nalaurien> given its win7 its probably the only important one
[15:37] <Nalaurien> so youre good to go then?
[15:38] <NoiseEee> hey there, i have a gigantic kern.log and syslog on my ubuntu 14.04 desktop that i installed about 10 days ago
[15:38] <xubuntu01w> Yup.
[15:38] <Nalaurien> good stuff m8 glad you got it sorted :)
[15:39] <NoiseEee> like my syslog is 2.4G and my kern.log is 17GB
[15:39] <NoiseEee> computer seems to be running fine, whats the deal / how can i investigate / wtf
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> NoiseEee  careful with your language
[15:41] <NoiseEee> looking at lines of the logs, they just seem super-verbose, no error messages
[15:41] <PrinceAMD> Hi guys, i've just installed elasticsearch and i'm having a very hard time getting it to start using  "sudo service elasticsearch start"
[15:41] <PrinceAMD> i've done some googling... but nothing... anyone had a similar issue?
[15:41] <OerHeks> you can watch what is happening live, tail -f /var/log/syslog.log
[15:41] <Nalaurien> ^^ this
[15:42] <PrinceAMD> OerHeks, sad part is there is no log :(
[15:42] <Nalaurien> tail it and see whats going on
[15:42] <gilje> will ubuntu minimal on ssd be much faster than normal ubuntu install?
[15:42] <Nalaurien> whatever you do DO NOT delete the logs and touch them
[15:42] <PrinceAMD> no error :/
[15:42] <kknight> i  want to uninstall rvm from my system rvm implode doen't work what to do?
[15:42] <Nalaurien> if you want to clear them do so in the file
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !find elasticsearch
[15:42] <Nalaurien> just fyi youll prolly crash if you touch a deleted log that writes to that log
[15:43] <NoiseEee> hmm okay Nalaurien... most of my kern.log stuff seems to be VM related (vbox stuff)
[15:43] <NoiseEee> i wonder if there's somewhere to limit that logging
[15:43] <Nalaurien> they still shouldnt be that huge
[15:44] <Nalaurien> watch tail for a bit and check it every so often, see if you can pinpoint where most of the data comes from
[15:44] <NoiseEee> oh i can see
[15:44] <NoiseEee> i left my computer on all night
[15:44] <Nalaurien> that still doesnt produce a 17G log file
[15:44] <Nalaurien> unless something is checking every millisecond for something else and it verbose logs it
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> i have cron job, switching my laptop off at 4am, in case i forgot
[15:45] <Nalaurien> if you dont wanna search through them for a the problem id clear em and watch it from then on
[15:45] <Nalaurien> see if there are any more spiked
[15:46] <NoiseEee> Nalaurien: i think i found it.  crash in compiz/xorg fills the logs since 6:30pm last night https://gist.github.com/NoiseEee/bd2bf37fbdc2b4c3af65
[15:46] <Nalaurien> oh damn
[15:46] <NoiseEee> Nalaurien: those lines basically repeat for GB!
[15:46] <Nalaurien> thatll do it
[15:46] <NoiseEee> Nalaurien: when i came in this morning my screen was fubared and had to reset
[15:46] <NoiseEee> okay thanks for the tips
[15:46] <Nalaurien> :)
[15:46] <NoiseEee> can i just truncate the log / how to kill its size right now?
[15:46] <NoiseEee> reboot?
[15:47] <Nalaurien> you can clear the text in the file, just dont delet it
[15:47] <NoiseEee> i can just 'touch' it then?
[15:47] <Nalaurien> no
[15:47] <Nalaurien> if you delete the logs and then touch
[15:47] <Nalaurien> they may try to log that
[15:47] <NoiseEee> oh
[15:47] <Nalaurien> in which case youll crash
[15:48] <Nalaurien> and then everything is fucked
[15:48] <Nalaurien> sorry
[15:48] <NoiseEee> truncate -s 0 /path/to/log?
[15:48] <Nalaurien> is messed up
[15:48] <Nalaurien> better
[15:49] <PHroGman> when installing software via the ppa and command line whats the best way to uninstall it Synaptic or command line?
[15:49] <NoiseEee> many thanks Nalaurien
[15:49] <Nalaurien> <3
[15:49] <OerHeks> !ppapurge | PHroGman
[15:49] <homa> hi my friends
[15:50] <PHroGman> can you remove the reposatories via gui instead?
[15:51] <OerHeks> PHroGman, i think you can only disable it in softwarecenter > sources. but that does not reverse packages.
[15:51] <PHroGman> ic
[15:52] <PHroGman> thanks
[16:07] <pritam> need to install chrome ?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> pritam: try chromium-browser instead
[16:07] <OerHeks> download the deb from the google site, it installs the repo & key & installscript
[16:08] <MrElendig> pritam: there is no reason to use chrome
[16:09] <pritam> wanna use a light browser!!
[16:10] <g105b> Don't start a fanboy war
[16:12] <NoiseEee> MrElendig: wat
[16:15] <cortexman> in Terminal hyperlinks are recognized but nothing happens when I click
[16:17] <NoiseEee> ctrl-click
[16:22] <stone_> ye
[16:22] <stone_> e
[16:22] <stone_> e
[16:22] <stone_> e
[16:22] <stone_> e
[16:22] <stone_> e
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> stone_  it works, we see you
[16:24] <NoiseEee> s/see/saw
[16:24] <abetusk_> I'm having trouble with my Ubuntu box.  I don't know what I did but now when it boots, the window manager doesn't start and I'm stuck in a terminal (tty1).
[16:24] <abetusk_> I did a 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.  I'm on trustry 14.10.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> abetusk_  14.10 is dead, you're working with a corpse
[16:25] <cfhowlett> abetusk_, nope.  14.10 is dead and you cannot dist-upgrade there..
[16:25] <abetusk_> ok, how do I upgrade to a newer version?
[16:25] <cfhowlett> abetusk_, download .iso, make a bootable usb and clean install
[16:26] <abetusk_> will doing that wipe out my existing data?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> abetusk_  backup first
[16:26] <cfhowlett> *should not* but of course you have your backup.  right?  RIGHT?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> abetusk_   and during install, create a separate /home partition
[16:28] <abetusk_> ok, thanks everybody
[16:29] <abetusk_> wait, 14.10 is dead?  I should be installing 14.04?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> abetusk_  yes, 14.04 is fine
[16:29] <nacc> abetusk_: non-LTS only are supported for 6 months
[16:30] <Pici> 9 months
[16:30] <adrian_1908> hello, I have a problem with the painting program "Krita" on Xubuntu. It freezes the Desktop so that the mouse works but I cannot click on anything (or if i can, it doesn't have any effect). I know this is specifically Ubuntu support, but I thought I'd ask if there's a general recommendation on how to recover in that situation without rebooting.
[16:31] <nacc> Pici: err, right, sorry!
[16:31] <kc4lzn> nickserv identify tmchambone
[16:31] <Fuchs> kc4lzn: /msg  in front of it
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> kc4lzn   change your password
[16:32] <Fuchs> kc4lzn: and now you want  /msg nickserv help set password
[16:32] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, ONLY with krita??
[16:32] <abem2> Hello, I know this is probably not the best place to ask. But do you know about a good channel related to statistic/datamining. I tried with those words but I was all alone
[16:32] <adrian_1908> cfhowlett: yes, and I can't say I recall ever running into this problem before.
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> abem2  type  /msg alis list blahblah   (keyword)
[16:33] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, start krita from the terminal and note any errors it kicks out.  might ask #krita or krita forums as well
[16:34] <adrian_1908> cfhowlett: I asked in their IRC, but they don't seem to be familiar with this problem (pertaining to Krita itself). Maybe I should ask in the forums then, but I fear I'll just get forwarded from one person to the next.
[16:35] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, krita forums sounds like a reasonable start.  as this ONLY happens with krita , sounds like a krita issue. but ...
[16:35] <cfhowlett> are you actually having mouse issues? not drawing pad issue?
[16:36] <cfhowlett> tried other drawing programs?  gimp?  mypaint?  pencil?
[16:37] <kc4lzn> MonkeyDust Thanks.
[16:37] <kc4lzn> Fuchs Thanks and I did change my password.
[16:37] <Fuchs> good :)
[16:37] <Fuchs> kc4lzn: also you want to set up http://freenode.net/sasl/ instead
[16:37] <adrian_1908> cfhowlett: It also crashes without a graphic tablet connected, if that's what you're asking :)
[16:37] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, indeed.  other programs do this as well?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> whoever had the krito issue ... Pinta is also handy
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> krita*
[16:38] <kc4lzn> Fuchs I'll pull it up. It was registered, just flubbed up identifying...
[16:39] <adrian_1908> cfhowlett: Never happened to me elsewhere, and in Krita it only happens when I interact with the UI. Painting itself never crashes. I somehow suspect the KDE/Qt libraries are at fault.
[16:39] <abem2> thank you MonkeyDust
[16:39] <adrian_1908> MonkeyDust: I'll take a look at Pinta. Krita seems super nice though, I'm really impressed with it.
[16:40] <cfhowlett> also a strong possibility.  additional data would help.  check logs and error messages
[16:41] <adrian_1908> where these logs are found would be application specific, not Ubuntu wide, correct?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> adrian_1908  isnt krita kde specific?
[16:41] <mkdir> hi all ;)
[16:42] <wk-work> hey, the ubuntu documentation is saying that while installing the root file system is found on /target/, so if i were to do echo "test" > /target/root/test - this would place a file with that contents in the root folder?
[16:42] <adrian_1908> MonkeyDust: you mean where the logs are would be driven by that, yes? (It is KDE based)
[16:42] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, hopefully it would refer to the app but you might need to do a bit of searching.  dmesg might be a good start
[16:43] <adrian_1908> ah yes, I've used dmesg a few times before, I'll see if that gives me information. thanks.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> adrian_1908, I think you can do dmesg | grep kde*   or similar wildcard search
[16:45] <adrian_1908> I'll do some more trial and error then and see if i can locate the application logs. If I'm suddenly gone, it crashed again ;o
[16:48] <kknight> why when entering right password everytime it gives xyz is not in th sudorere file. This incident will be reported
[16:49] <cfhowlett> kknight, because user xyz is not in the sudoer file.  i.e. doesn't have permission to use sudo commands
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> kknight  make sure the user is part of the sudo group
[16:50] <kknight> MonkeyDust  how to do that
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> kknight  is it you, or some new user you created?
[16:53] <mcm_> what is the meaning of triple dash on grub command lines?
[16:57] <marc__> hey guys
[16:57] <kknight> MonkeyDust:  dunno but help me to fix it
[16:57] <cfhowlett> kknight, are YOU user xyz??
[16:57] <kknight> how to know whether i  have created new user or not if yes then i  want to delete it
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> kknight  we have to know if you yourself can use sudo
[16:58] <cfhowlett> kknight, and is this your computer?
[17:00] <MoziM> is there a command that will let me explore a package's contents before installing it?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> MoziM  you can download it, without installing
[17:01] <llutz> MoziM: dpkg -c package_file.deb
[17:01] <cfhowlett> MoziM, you can view package contents at packages.ubuntu.com
[17:01] <kknight> MonkeyDust:  yes
[17:01] <kknight> i  can use sudo
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> MoziM  and there's   apt-cache show <package>
[17:03] <MoziM> MonkeyDust, ok thanks! Also I'm using the universe and when i search for libopencv4tegra i'm seeing 4 different versions...I'm wondering what the difference between *-dev and *-repo are if any
[17:05] <kknight> MonkeyDust:  yes i  can use sudo but wan to delete unecessay acces
[17:05] <kknight> means only system password and one user xyz password
[17:07] <chohe> is there a repo where I can fetch a newer version of ActiveMQ?
[17:09] <wk-work> hey, the ubuntu documentation is saying that while installing the root file system is found on /target/, so if i were to do echo "test" > /target/root/test - this would place a file with that contents in the root folder? trying to do some post install kickstart scripting
[17:10] <bramgn> wk-work: it would place a file in the folder /root/, not the root folder
[17:10] <django_> i updated to 14.04 and my mouse pointer is flickering
[17:10] <wk-work> bramgn: yeah thats what i mean, in /root/ - my bad.
[17:10] <wk-work> I tried this and it doesn't work.
[17:11] <wk-work> I'm trying to echo some stuff into /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't seem to work.
[17:12] <Seveas> why are you trying to echo into it instead of providing the proper parameters to kickstart or d-i?
[17:12] <kknight> IS THERE any way to restore system only for last 24 hrs?
[17:13] <wk-work> Seveas: because the installer gets butthurt when i configure an interface and it cant reach the gateway, this is intentional because there is some post-configuration happening with the virtual machine. the installation is halted if it can't reach the gateway
[17:13] <guest> kknight: Only if you have a backup
[17:13] <kknight> how?
[17:13] <guest> kknight: Do you have a backup?
[17:14] <kknight> to do that resotore process
[17:14] <guest> kknight: It depends what you want to restore. What do you want to restore? Your settings?
[17:14] <kknight> yes i  have backup
[17:14] <guest> kknight: In your home directory (/home/username) there are a number of files and directories which start with a dot (.)
[17:15] <kknight> some unnecessary chages were done in last 24 hrs that i  want to eleiminate
[17:15] <guest> kknight: Those are hidden files and if you copy them all from your backup to your home directory, overwriting the current ones, then your configs will be as they were when you took the backup
[17:15] <guest> kknight: what sort of changes?
[17:16] <kknight> some rvm path problem
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> rvm?
[17:16] <guest> Ruby on rails
[17:16] <kknight> yes
[17:16] <guest> kknight: Let's fix your actual issue then
[17:17] <guest> kknight: What problem are you having with the path?
[17:17] <guest> the file you might want to restore from backup is .bash_profile
[17:17] <midhun> helooooo
[17:17] <guest> OK
[17:17] <cfhowlett> midhun, ask your ubuntu support question?
[17:18] <midhun> anyone knws tcos monitor
[17:18] <guest> maybe. ask your next question (your real question) and find out
[17:18] <midhun> need help to configure t
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> !find tcos
[17:18] <midhun> TCos Monitor
[17:19] <midhun> am a newbie n ubuntu
[17:19] <midhun> need help to configure t
[17:19] <guest> midhun: What is this software? How did you install it?
[17:19] <midhun> ubuntu s/w centre
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> midhun  familiar with other distros?
[17:20] <midhun> nopes
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> midhun  if you're new, why do you start with tcos?
[17:20] <midhun> needed a s/w to monitor all computers connected to n/w
[17:20] <guest> What sort of monitoring?
[17:20] <midhun> and also newrk usage
[17:21] <guest> That's pretty heavy stuff for a beginner
[17:21] <guest> And even for an expert
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> midhun  sounds complex, what are you doing, what brings you here
[17:21] <midhun> am srry ,but can u guide me to do t?
[17:21] <guest> tcos monitor seems to monitor specific thin clients
[17:21] <guest> are you using that sort of thin client?
[17:21] <midhun> am running n ubuuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:21] <guest> Because if you're not, tcos monitor won't do what you want
[17:21] <guest> What are you expecting from it?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !manual | midhun this is for beginners
[17:22] <midhun> i want to monitor all systems connected n my network and n/w usage individually
[17:22] <midhun> i know to surb web ad music stuffs like tht
[17:22] <cfhowlett> !network | midhun sounds like something the network channel might know of
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> midhun  start with the beginning, not with network monitoring ... come back when you're familiar with ubuntu
[17:23] <midhun> no
[17:23] <midhun> i have a server hre
[17:23] <cfhowlett> midhun, so ... go to the SERVER channel?
[17:23] <midhun> wanna monitor all static ips connecetd ad its n/w usage
[17:23] <guest> midhun: what exactly do you mean by "monitor"
[17:23] <guest> midhun: Sounds like something your router should be doing
[17:23] <cfhowlett> !server | midhun
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> midhun  that's not for beginners
[17:24] <midhun> monitor -view there n/w activities.like websites they go to
[17:24] <kknight> guest:  i  have installed latestest version of ror but beacuse of path i think it shows older version
[17:24] <midhun> lik tht
[17:24] <guest> kknight: what is the output of this command: echo $PATH
[17:24] <gagalicious> can anyone point me to how i can add my customized local repo to my pxe automated installation of server?
[17:25] <guest> midhun: What you are describing is called a "man in the middle attack"
[17:25] <midhun> exactly ,u may call by tht
[17:25] <midhun> but pls help me
[17:26] <cfhowlett> are you the system adminstrator?
[17:26] <midhun> junior
[17:26] <cfhowlett> midhun, good~!  ask your senior to teach you how to monitor your users.
[17:26] <midhun> junior system admin  n windows.bt n my new office i have linux too
[17:27] <midhun> i didnt login hre to hear tht
[17:27] <midhun> am srry
[17:27] <llutz> midhun: your keyboard is broken
[17:27] <midhun> well,fix t up
[17:28] <cfhowlett> gagalicious, you mean a customized local mirror??
[17:28] <kknight> guest:   /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/home/ankit/.rvm/bin:/home/ankit/.app/capnproto/bin:/home/ankit/.app/java/bin:/home/ankit/.app/ant/bin:/home/ankit/.app/jruby/bin:/home/ankit/.rvm/bin:/home/ankit/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2
[17:28] <midhun> yea
[17:28] <OerHeks> midhun, tcos monitor, it is part of the "thin Client Operating System ", not a monitor tool as naigos and such
[17:29] <midhun> ohh kk
[17:29] <midhun> thnks fr tht
[17:29] <midhun> could u tel me which one wil help to do t?i mean what s/w
[17:30] <Pici> !u
[17:30] <midhun> got it ,will keep in mind now on
[17:31] <midhun> no one knows it?or no one wants to help?
[17:31] <cfhowlett> !patience | midhun
[17:31] <bramgn> no one wants to help
[17:32] <cfhowlett> bramgn, stop please
[17:32] <midhun> am frm india ,still in my office looking for this solution
[17:32] <jophish> Hi
[17:32] <jophish> I've just rebooted and my mouse is scrolling about 10 times faster
[17:32] <bramgn> cfhowlett: sorry
[17:33] <midhun> need to know how I can monitor all pc's in my network
[17:33] <kknight> guest:?  i  have missed your previous post
[17:33] <kknight> please reneter it
[17:33] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/nagios.html & http://askubuntu.com/questions/9107/what-tools-do-you-use-to-monitor-a-web-server
[17:33] <llutz> !info ntop > midhun
[17:34] <OerHeks> midhun, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too.
[17:34] <django_> cfhowlett, hey you around?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> django_, yep.
[17:34] <midhun> i want to view all pcs by its IP add and its data usage individually
[17:34] <midhun> can anyone tell me
[17:34] <cfhowlett> midhun, ask in #ubuntu-server <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[17:34] <django_> cfhowlett, so i updated to 14.04 and i wanna use the nvidia drivers, i go to "software and updates" and in additional drivers there are many drivers
[17:34] <django_> im not sure what to chose
[17:35] <llutz> midhun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ntop
[17:35] <cfhowlett> you have Nvida, right django_ ?
[17:35] <django_> Yes
[17:35] <django_> geforce
[17:35] <C_minus> Here's my output to lsblk http://paste.ubuntu.com/15017584/. Wishing to restore from backup on external hard drive sdc. Just wanted to run my proposed command by a human before I destroy something! sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda bs=512 conv=noerror,sync
[17:35] <django_> also im pretty sure this ubuntu is buggy because my moucse cursor keeps on flickering
[17:36] <midhun_> how to view all ps's connected to my network and view its bandwidth
[17:36] <krypto> why we need too logs one in /var/log/upstart/service.log and /var/log/service.log
[17:36] <cfhowlett> django_, OK, you should have at least one "proprietary" driver.  that is probably the recommended choice
[17:36] <krypto> two*
[17:36] <krypto> those are not symlinks
[17:37] <gagalicious> noatime... will it disable last modified time? why do people need atime by the way?
[17:37] <wyre> hi guys! could I use that info to decrypt a swap partition on Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:38] <wyre> https://www.logilab.org/blogentry/29155
[17:38] <bramgn> gagalicious: when you need to know when a file or directory was last accessed
[17:39] <django_> cfhowlett, these are the options: https://imgur.com/EL2IaUK
[17:39] <gadgaghj> hello humans.
[17:39] <piero> hi all
[17:39] <piero> someone know where to find a good dark theme for ubuntu/mint
[17:40] <gadgaghj> seeking  anonimity.
[17:40] <cfhowlett> !mint | piero,
[17:40] <cfhowlett> django_, I run the proprietary tested driver.
[17:40] <gadgaghj> ending ignition sequence.
[17:40] <django_> cfhowlett, yeah but there are many options
[17:40] <gagalicious> bramgn: is there any use case for that?
[17:40] <gagalicious> if i do noatime, will nodiratime also be used?
[17:40] <cfhowlett> django_, you have two proprietary choices.  choose one
[17:41] <cfhowlett> django
[17:41] <django_> cfhowlett, (propietary, tested) ?
[17:41] <cfhowlett> ah, i see the issue.  OK, the biggest number will be the newest driver.  that's the one
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: are you on an ssd?
[17:42] <gagalicious> i am extreme user of hdd
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> ok
[17:43] <bramgn> gagalicious: for example when you need to know whether a config file was read at all
[17:43] <iko_> www.google.com
[17:43] <iko_> hello
[17:43] <iko_> to all
[17:43] <cfhowlett> iko_, ubuntu support here.  ask your question
[17:44] <gagalicious> that's all?
[17:44] <gagalicious> that means i can disable it guess. what about noacl.
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: did you try tweak swappiness and install preload
[17:46] <gagalicious> preload uses memory
[17:46] <gagalicious> i did tweak swappiness
[17:46] <gagalicious> noacl... advisable?
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: it all helps the extreme use
[17:47] <gagalicious> yes but i need to know what i'm disabling
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: not sure for regular hd, for ssd best desktop use is relatime
[17:48] <gagalicious> cant seem to find much information on noacl and nousr_xattr
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: maybe the ##linux and ##hardware guys might know more of this
[17:50] <django_> ok so i did sudo prime-select intel, and i did prime-select query and i get intel but i still hear my nvidia graphics card running :(
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> django_: you mean nvidia-prime?
[17:52] <django_> lotuspsychje, i dont want nvidia to run
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> django_: did you disable performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[17:52] <django_> i want it off
[17:52] <django_> only the intel graphics card
[17:52] <NikLP> right I've got some NAS drives and they're set up with fstab partitions. But if they're off when I boot the pc, they're not visible. How do I "rerun" fstab to get these drives mounted?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> django_: did you install nvidia-prime like i asked last time?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> NikLP  by "off", you mean switched off, or unmounted?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> NikLP  mount everything in fstab with   sudo mount -a
[17:55] <NikLP> the NAS' were off, the pc was on. Having exhausted my searching, I finally just found "mount -a"
[17:55] <NikLP> yeah thanks MonkeyDust :)
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> NikLP  NAS users help each other
[17:55] <NikLP> MonkeyDust: it did give me a device busy error tho - because a device was "already mounted" perhaps?
[17:55] <NikLP> MonkeyDust: what do you have? (I have two crappy old units, one is failing (2TB :( ))
[17:56] <django_> lotuspsychje, idk what that is, ive been trying to work with the nvidia drivers
[17:56] <django_> my goal is just to turn it off i wanna program not game
[17:56] <django_> and it heats it for no reason
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> django_: if your card is optimus, you need to install nvidia-prime
[17:56] <django_> i have nvidia geforce
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> django_: only then you can turn it off...
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | django_
[17:57] <django_> lotuspsychje, do i need to uninstall the drivers?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> NikLP  same here, ancient Netgear Readynas Duo
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> django_: no, you need an nvidia-number driver + nvidia-prime package then turn off performance mode in nvidia-settings
[17:58] <NikLP> MonkeyDust: ah well! still a great thing to have :)
[17:58] <NikLP> tyvm
[17:58] <django_> is there a guide for this?
[17:58] <django_> havent found anything in google
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> django_: i just explained you...
[17:59] <django_> how do i know if I have the nvidia-number driver installed?
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> django_: look in your additional drivers section
[17:59] <django_> oh ok i do
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> django_: the hardware icon
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> django_: then sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[18:00] <django_> how do i know if i have amd64 or ix86
[18:00] <django_> i386*
[18:00] <xpilgrim> ookz
[18:01] <django_> ohh ihave 64 bit
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> django_: apt-get automatic chooses the right architecture for your packages
[18:02] <django_> lotuspsychje, ok so i actually have nvidia prime installed lol
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> django_: ok now open nvidia-settings
[18:02] <django_> yeah its open
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> django_: then disable performance mode
[18:03] <django_> there is only application profiles or nvidia-settings config
[18:03] <django_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-nvidia-prime-gt650m
[18:04] <django_> trying to follow that guide but i dont have "PRIME Profiles"
[18:04] <wk-work> is there any way to make the installer skip checking network configuration when using a kickstart file? we are configuring a network connection which will only be valid *after* the virtual machine is setup, the installation halts when it cant reach the default gameway...
[18:05] <django_> going to restart brb
[18:07] <django_> ok back
[18:08] <django_> lotuspsychje left
[18:08] <django_> aww
[18:23] <mr_p4r4d0x> fALA
[18:23] <mr_p4r4d0x> falaaaaaa
[18:25] <WinterGuardian> Hi anyone can help ? I installed Ubuntu on my lenovo N585 and the built-in speakers are not working
[18:26] <WinterGuardian> http://i.imgur.com/m6rpClA.png
[18:29] <popey> WinterGuardian: i sometimes find using alsamixer is a good way to unmute devices
[18:30] <wk-work> is there any way to make the installer skip checking network configuration when using a kickstart file? we are configuring a network connection which will only be valid *after* the virtual machine is setup, the installation halts when it cant reach the default gameway
[18:32] <emerson_> Hi
[18:43] <nikitha> what does i386 means ?
[18:43] <genii> 32 bit
[18:44] <nikitha> mine is 64bit, what should i choose virtualbox-5 pr virtualbox-5:i386  ?
[18:45] <genii> nikitha: The first one
[18:47] <django_> ubuntu is working fine now ty all!!
[18:47] <nikitha> just for doubt,  does choosing gives any backward compatible with older or 32bit ?
[18:48] <WinterGuardian> popey, it's not just a mute problem
[18:48] <WinterGuardian> thanks though
[18:48] <ash_workz> what's a good channel to ask about the dig command?
[18:48] <ash_workz> any recommendations?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  ask here
[18:49] <ash_workz> what's with the @ sign?
[18:49] <pbx> ash_workz, what are you trying to do and what have you read (e.g. manpage)
[18:49] <ash_workz> I kinda get that it means "search from here" but I don't quite understand the dynamics of what dig does to really get that
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  what brings you here, in one line, so you can easily repeat
[18:50] <ash_workz> pbx: I've read some of the man, looked at an example on youtube; this person uses it in code that now I am dealing with
[18:51] <ash_workz> the purpose of the script which it is used in is to update geo data (inevitably; that may not be the goal here; though it looks pretty integral to the purpose)
[18:52] <Pici> ash_workz: it specifies that you want to ask a specific dns server for their response
[18:52] <ash_workz> dig (apparently) fetches some data that is then parsed for a db update.
[18:52] <sveinse> Hi. Just installed ubuntu 15.10 and I am running gnome shell. How can I disable that the screen does not go black (not blank) after some inactivity?
[18:53] <ash_workz> (php script) the format is `dig @127.0.0.1 $var.ext TXT`
[18:54] <ash_workz> Pici: so asking specifically itself?
[18:54] <Pici> ash_workz: that is asking the server at 127.0.0.1 what TXT records it has for $var.ext
[18:54] <Pici> ash_workz: assuming you have a dns server running locally, yes.
[18:54] <ash_workz> "it has for $var.ext" -- meaning the record will be named that way?
[18:55] <Pici> ash_workz: thats some php thing, I can't speak to what is in that variable.
[18:55] <wk-work> is there any way to configure an network network interface with kickstart with additional routes? just specifying the ip, netmask and gateway is not enough to get network access
[18:55] <squinty> sveinse,  try System Settings -> Brightness and Lock
[18:55] <Pici> wk-work: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[18:55] <ash_workz> Pici: disregard the variable name, I am more interested in the meaning of the syntax and the placement of these words
[18:55] <wk-work> Pici: thanks
[18:56] <Pici> ash_workz: $var.ext is where I would expect the dns name of whatever you're querying about to be.
[18:57] <funkenstrahlen_> hey, anyone here with some knowledge about running ejabberd server?
[18:57] <Pici> ash_workz: i.e. dig @8.8.8.8 ubuntu.com AAAA  would ask the DNS server 8.8.8.8 what AAAA records it has for ubuntu.com
[18:57] <funkenstrahlen_> I struggle setting up anonymous login
[18:57] <johnno01> rm
[18:57] <ash_workz> I see
[18:58] <ash_workz> so
[18:58] <ash_workz> when I dig google.com TXT, it gives google.com.		3599	IN	TXT	"v=spf1 include:_spf.google.com ~all" ... would the equivalent be like dig @google.com google.com TXT ?
[18:59] <ash_workz> seems to hang if I do that
[18:59] <ash_workz> this is where my confusion comes in with the @ sign
[18:59] <teward> ash_workz: @ denotes the nameserver to query
[18:59] <teward> ash_workz: 'google.com' is not a direct nameserver, iirc
[19:00] <Pici> ash_workz: google.com doesn't host a nameserver (over port 53)
[19:00] <teward> ash_workz: therefore, if you want to query the Google DNS servers, use @8.8.8.8
[19:01] <ash_workz> can you glob with dig? dig @ns*.google.com google.com TXT ?
[19:02] <ash_workz> guess not
[19:04] <sparks_> Did anyone actually get TRIM functions to work ubuntu ubuntu 12.04 on mdadm soft raid + ext4 with kernel 3.2.0-77?
[19:04] <ash_workz> I think I should jump in #networking
[19:04] <rootri> hey, can anyone recommend a wifi card for a laptop? my intel 7260 is garbage
[19:05] <k1l_> rootri: what kernel are you on?
[19:05] <rootri> 3.19
[19:06] <william1978> quick question and I hope I'm not in the wrong channel for it, if I am could someone tell me where I should ask this question.  Is there a GUI sudo file manager?
[19:06] <rootri> and yes i did try disabling N connectivity ha
[19:06] <k1l_> rootri: what ubuntu release is that?
[19:06] <rootri> 14.04
[19:06] <bazhang> !gksudo
[19:07] <pavlos> william1978, you could try sudo nautilus
[19:07] <rootri> tried a 16.04 live cd and it didn't seem any better
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> pavlos  ubottu just said to not use sudo with graphical applicacations
[19:08] <k1l_> rootri: try "sudo apt install linux-generic-lts-wily"  that will bring you the 4.2 kernel from 15.10. check if that is better.
[19:08] <pavlos> william1978, better yet, try gksudo
[19:08] <k1l_> i cant find the page right now that said from which kernel on that card is working properly
[19:08] <pavlos> MonkeyDust, just saw it
[19:08] <kylebalkissoon> whats a good tool to fill in pdf forms and save them?
[19:09] <bazhang> !info pdftk
[19:09] <william1978> pavlos, I think I know what to do with my desktop icon now.  Thank you, didn't think of that.  Going to try to change the launch command of the icon.
[19:09] <rootri> k1l_ there's a chance it'll work better on 4.2 than on 4.4?
[19:09] <kylebalkissoon> thanks bazhang i'll get it a shot
[19:09] <bazhang> welcome
[19:10] <k1l_> rootri: 16.04 is still in the development stage. i would not count that try.
[19:10] <tabp0le> I<3ubuntu
[19:10] <rootri> fair
[19:11] <Cl4y> kali
[19:11] <rootri> will try that, thanks
[19:11] <bazhang> #kali-linux for kali Cl4y
[19:11] <pubunt> kernel 3.19 won't upgrade to 4.2
[19:11] <kylebalkissoon> E: Unable to locate package pdftk
[19:12] <k1l_> pubunt: what ubuntu are you on? can you show the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[19:12] <bazhang> kylebalkissoon, what version of ubuntu are you on
[19:12] <pubunt> xubuntu
[19:12] <bazhang> kylebalkissoon, new install?
[19:12] <kylebalkissoon> 14.04 and no
[19:13] <pubunt> ran software updater to upgrade 15.04 to 15.10
 pubunt: what ubuntu are you on? can you show the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[19:13] <bazhang> !info pdftk trusty
[19:13] <kylebalkissoon> 14.04.33 LTS specifically, I can try building from source
[19:13] <pubunt> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[19:13] <bazhang> apt-cache search pdf    kylebalkissoon
[19:13] <k1l_> pubunt: make sure the package "linux-generic" is installed
[19:14] <kylebalkissoon> bazhang: not on the list
[19:15] <bazhang> kylebalkissoon, you are either not up to date, or missing a repo
[19:15] <pubunt> k1l_, it's installed
[19:15] <haidar> hello , I would like to create a cisco router on ubuntu server after I download dynamips and dynagen and during the procedure need to create a dynagen configration file I already have the configration but How can I create thats file also where should put the file to run the Dynagen any Idea please??
[19:15] <pubunt> linux-generic is installed
[19:16] <k1l_> pubunt: please run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here.
[19:16] <kylebalkissoon> bazhang checking
[19:16] <pubunt> k1l_, okay
[19:17] <vianney> bonjour
[19:17] <kylebalkissoon> im up to date as I'm on 14.04.3 which is the msot recent LTS
[19:18] <bazhang> kylebalkissoon, try tab completing the package  sudo apt-get install pdf<tabkey>
[19:19] <vianney> how install adobe flash player on a raspy?^^
[19:19] <OerHeks> kylebalkissoon, make sure you have universe repo enabled.
[19:19] <OerHeks> kylebalkissoon, >> <bazhang> kylebalkissoon, you are either not up to date, or missing a repo
[19:19] <pubunt> http://pastebin.com/W1844EUY
[19:19] <bazhang> vianney, running raspbian?
[19:20] <vianney> Ubuntumate
[19:20] <kylebalkissoon> universe is foss right?
[19:20] <xangua> vianney: you don't
[19:20] <vianney> erf, okay
[19:20] <k1l_> pubunt: now please a "apt-cache policy linux-generic"
[19:21] <kylebalkissoon> added universe and it works
[19:21] <kylebalkissoon> thanks guys
[19:21] <vianney> it's possible on raspbian?
[19:21] <Cl4y>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Cl4y aawwmzdrajfn
[19:21] <sparks_> anyone have any ideas about my previous question?
[19:22] <pubunt> http://pastebin.com/aBk30SjC
[19:22] <k1l_> pubunt: what is "uname -a"?
[19:22] <xangua> vianney: no
[19:23] <vianney> xangua: ok, thanks
[19:23] <Cl4y>  /server irc.chatnet.org
[19:23] <k1l_> Cl4y: you got a space in front of the / so it doesnt execute the command
[19:23] <pubunt> uname -a?
[19:24] <k1l_> pubunt: put a "uname -a" in terminal and show the line here
[19:24] <pubunt> uname -a
[19:24] <pubunt> Linux asusbox 3.19.0-22-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 16 17:15:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <k1l_> pubunt: did you reboot after the upgrade?
[19:25] <pubunt> upgrade didn't finish....it crashed on grub-pc
[19:25] <k1l_> pubunt: ok. that info would have been good to here some minutes before
[19:25] <pubunt> oh, sorry
[19:25] <k1l_> pubunt: run a "sudo update-grub"
[19:25] <pubunt> I ran software updates when I rebooted
[19:26] <william1978_> I wasn't sure how to phrase this in google or I would have asked there, how do I access directories from an external hard drive in linux?  I checked out where they mount from in the terminal in /dev but I don't know how to figure out which TTY I need or how to access it as a file structure from the terminal.
[19:26] <pubunt> k1l_, okay, done
[19:27] <genii> william1978_: The device names they make in /dev are only raw device names and not directly accessible. The name there ( for example /dev/sdb1) needs to be spliced into the existing filesystem
[19:27] <k1l_> pubunt: can you pastebin the output in the paste.ubuntu.com again?
[19:28] <william1978_> OK is that hard to do?  I'd say I am adept with a terminal but still just a young padawan!  LOL  :D
[19:28] <genii> william1978_: The automounter should want to try and do this normally somewhere like /media/yourusername/external-volume-label
[19:28] <delt> Hello
[19:28] <william1978_> Oh, ok.  Thank you.
[19:29] <pavlos> william1978, when the ext drive is mounted, do you see the files in /media/<user>/<hex>?
[19:29] <william1978_> looking now
[19:29] <pubunt> http://pastebin.com/08tFVhy3
[19:30] <delt> i'm trying to forward ports from my gateway machine, but connections just hang there...
[19:30] <k1l_> pubunt: reboot. it founb the 4.2 kernel
[19:30] <k1l_> *found
[19:30] <delt> can someone tell me what is wrong with these iptables commands? --->
[19:30] <delt>   iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING  -p tcp -m tcp -d $wan_addr --dport $srcport -j DNAT --to-destination $desthost:$destport
[19:30] <delt>   iptables -A FORWARD -m state -p tcp -d $desthost --dport $destport --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[19:30] <delt>   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -m tcp -s $desthost --sport $destport -j SNAT --to-source $wan_addr
[19:31] <william1978_> Last question.  And yes, it's there.  How would I type Seagate \Expansion \Drive so that it dosen't bash me?
[19:31] <k1l_> william1978_: you need to escape the spaces with a \ in front
[19:31] <pubunt> okay, thanks
[19:31] <Uttyte> just move the backslashes in front of the spaces
[19:31] <pubunt> will reboot now
[19:33] <Uttyte> William: from the CLI you can also just type the first couple chars and hit TAB
[19:33] <Uttyte> it should complete for you
[19:34] <pubunt> $ uname -r
[19:34] <pubunt> 3.19.0-22-generic
[19:34] <pubunt> didn't work
[19:35] <Uttyte> Can anyone help with virtual terminal unicode question?
[19:37] <pubunt> it 'sees' kernel 4.2 , how do I make it use it?
[19:40] <k1l_> pubunt: is it the ubuntu grub? or is it the debian grub?
[19:40] <pubunt> ubuntu?
[19:40] <k1l_> pubunt: no
[19:40] <django_> which command tells you memory usage?
[19:41] <k1l_> 3.19-22 is the second last kernel. there is a newer 3.19 kernel and it doesnt see it.
[19:41] <pauljw> django_, free
[19:41] <k1l_> so either you install the grub from ubuntu again, or you boot to debian and run the grub from there.
[19:42] <pubunt> ok
[19:44] <Cl4y>  /server irc.redechat.com.br
[19:49] <william1978_> I'm trying to run a script from the external hd I asked about earlier.  I need to change the permissions to executeable.  I've tried chmod +x, gksudo chmod +x, and sudo chmod +x.  I am getting annoyed and tempted to run the terminal superuser.  Does anyone know why I may not be able to change the permissions?
[19:49] <blabla> william1978_: type mount in a terminal and paste it
[19:50] <blabla> might be mounted with noexec
[19:50] <pubunt> k1l_, it worked
[19:50] <pubunt> but now I think I have video driver problem?  lol   letters disappear
[19:51] <william1978_> /dev/sda2 on /media/william1978/Seagate Expansion Drive type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[19:51] <pubunt> letters are missing in the menu
[19:51] <k1l_> pubunt: if you dont use debian that ofte you should think about installing the ubuntu grub.
[19:51] <pubunt> and when I type here......
[19:51] <pubunt> I thought it was the ubuntu grub?  I updated it in my other Ubuntu partition
[19:51] <k1l_> other ubuntu partition?
[19:51] <pubunt> yep
[19:52] <pubunt> I run 2 Ubuntu OS and 1 Debian
[19:52] <pubunt> and Windoze
[19:52] <william1978_> I didn't see noexec .  :(
[19:53] <william1978_> And I didn't paste everything because I didn't want to flood the channel with txt.
[19:53] <pubunt> is the letters disappearing a video driver problem?
[19:53] <pubunt> I can't see what I type lol
[19:53] <pavlos> william1978, can you check if the perms are 755 for that file?
[19:53] <k1l_> pubunt: could be
[19:54] <pubunt> maybe the change in kernel...resulted in this issue?
[19:54] <llutz> william1978_: its ntfs, you cannot use chmod/chown on non-unix filesystems
[19:54] <pubunt> any typos is not my fault lol
[19:54] <Hyrule> how would you go about installing ubuntu as a VM on a USB thumbdrive? I didn't find a portable VirtualBox or VMWare version. any clues?
[19:54] <k1l_> pubunt: what video card and how is the driver installed?
[19:54] <thoma> Hello.
[19:54] <pubunt> nvidia gtx 7450
[19:54] <pubunt> gtx 750
[19:55] <pubunt> usually, I add from additional drivers but I have installed from nvidia site b4 too
[19:55] <william1978_> pavlos SOAB, I don't have a 3TB internal to transfer the data to.  Thanks for all the help
[19:55] <k1l_> pubunt: dont mix the drivers.
[19:55] <pubunt> if I want to use the latest drivers, I google how to install latest
[19:56] <william1978_> Hmm, had an idea.  What is the best partitioning tool for Xubuntu?
[19:56] <pubunt> what do you mean by mix?
[19:56] <blabla> william1978_: actually you can use chown and chmod on ntfs, it just wont stick to the next mount
[19:56] <william1978_> It's Fat32
[19:56] <blabla> william1978_: what's the file you're trying to chmod +x ?
[19:56] <blabla> fat32 as well
[19:56] <pubunt> I don't have to remove the FOSS ones right?
[19:56] <blabla> type ls -l /path/to/file after doing a chmod +x on it
[19:57] <pubunt> just have to choose between ubuntu provided or latest ones from nvidia site?
[19:57] <pubunt> choices are 352 (ubuntu) or 358/361
[19:58] <pubunt> anyone else try to use nouveau drivers in 15.10?
[19:58] <k1l_> pubunt: if you install from the nvidia site there are issues after a new kernel is updated and there will be no updates for the drivers
[19:58] <k1l_> pubunt: so if you use the website driver you need to take care of that yourself.
[19:58] <pubunt> k1l_, that sounds familiar , okay
[19:58] <pubunt> I'll just use 352 for now ,then
[19:59] <william1978_> blabla Did the list -rw------- 1 william1978 william1978 2301497781 Feb 11 11:08 gog_baldur_s_gate_2_enhanced_edition_2.0.0.4.sh
[19:59] <pubunt> but, I am not sure if I have to worry about a black screen when I reboot
[19:59] <Hyrule> found portable virtualbox, lol. thanks anyway.
[19:59] <pubunt> maybe that is with nvidia's latest drivers?
[20:00] <k1l_> pubunt: "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia"
[20:00] <pubunt> nothing returned
[20:00] <pavlos> william1978, the script is 2.3 TB ???
[20:00] <william1978_> And sorry for all the stupid questions, it's been a few years since I've ran linux.
[20:00] <william1978_> No, the Hard drive is, why I asked about the best partitioning tool.
[20:01] <k1l_> pubunt: make sure there are no typos
[20:01] <pubunt> I don't think so
[20:01] <pubunt> but, like I said, letters 'disappear'
[20:01] <pavlos> william1978, I use gparted
[20:01] <pubunt> this is really annoying
[20:01] <pubunt> I need to install a driver
[20:01] <gear4> why doesn't clang work
[20:01] <gear4> -_-
[20:01] <william1978_> Because I could just partition the hard drive in half, move my stuff, then delete the fat32 partition, and thanks pavlos
[20:04] <blabla> william1978_: you can mount it with set permissions if you want or format as you said
[20:16] <Ormu> hi, this bug has both "invalid" and "triaged" status, is it still OK to comment it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1284308
[20:17] <Ormu> or should I actually report/comment it on the main gvfs bugtracker (where it is?) as I'm not using ubuntu?
[20:18] <Ormu> i can confirm it on linux mint debian edition, and i have a workaround too
[20:19] <ruslan_> hey
[20:20] <Ormu> hm ok found it on gnome bugtracker...
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> Ormu  glad i could help
[20:21] <Ormu> :O
[20:21] <optimistic7> how to pass exit code of child process to any other process (other than parent process) ?
[20:21] <ruslan_> good evening! I was looking for a distance (skype) Python teacher?
[20:21] <ruslan_> Where should i address?
[20:21] <ruslan_> thank you
[20:22] <Ormu> ruslan: #python is a good place for python help
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> ruslan_  type    /j #python
[20:33] <Linuxiana> Ciao a tutti
[20:34] <pubunt> I can see why ppl switch from ubuntu to something else
[20:34] <pubunt> every time you upgrade, something doesn't work
[20:35] <optimistic7> how to pass exit code of child process to any other process (other than parent process) ?
[20:35] <k1l_> pubunt: that is not true. your several OS setup and your mix on nvidia drivers caused your issues. so blaming ubuntu for that doesnt make you look smarter
[20:36] <pubunt> it is true
[20:36] <pubunt> my other partition, it's up to date but still some videos doesn't work
[20:36] <pubunt> since I upgraded to 15.10 in this one, flash doesn't work
[20:36] <pubunt> and had to run through hoops to fix things
[20:36] <k1l_> flash does work.
[20:37] <pubunt> why would have multiple OS cause these issues?
[20:37] <pubunt> no, it doesn't ...
[20:38] <k1l_> if you fix issues with "i just load stuff from the web and install that" there is no doubt that things are not going like the automated testings ubuntu does with its packages.
[20:38] <k1l_> pubunt: the issues with grub and the kernel used.
[20:38] <pubunt> 15.10 is buggy
[20:38] <papodaca_> Anyone here know anything about kvm on 14.04?
[20:38] <k1l_> pubunt: you make it buggy. dont blame others for you messing with the system
[20:38] <pubunt> lol
[20:39] <pubunt> it shows flash plug in installed but nothing works
[20:39] <pubunt> I've seen this before... when ubuntu was buggy, I switched to debian and mint and even tried fedora
[20:39] <pubunt> 15.10 is crap
[20:40] <k1l_> pubunt: please keep this channel for real support issues and not for your rantings. you are free to use other distributions and leave this channel. thanks
[20:40] <emitattuo> Could the release just not be configured properly out-of-the-box for your particular system configuration, pubunt?
[20:40] <pubunt> it's working in chrome but an older version
[20:41] <pubunt> you're just saying there's a bug
[20:41] <pubunt> emitattuo, I dunno...but, flashplugin installer is the main package for flash and flash doesn't work in firefox
[20:42] <pubunt> emitattuo, I just think it's pretty bad when you have to run through hoops to get it to work
[20:42] <pubunt> if it would even work...some sites don't work
[20:42] <OerHeks> sounds more like 'some sites' than an Ubuntu issue
[20:43] <k1l_> there we go
[20:43] <emitattuo> pubunt, did Firefox do something on their end?  Or is the old version of Flash that's available for Linux just isn't compatible with those sites?
[20:43] <emitattuo> As far as I know, it's been years since Flash got more than a security fix on Linux.
[20:44] <OerHeks> flash is dead,indeed
[20:44] <pubunt> oh, I know... stuck at ver. 11.2
[20:45] <OerHeks> papodaca_, maybe you find your answer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[20:45] <papodaca_> OerHeks, I tried all the steps there. Everything *should* be ok but I cannot spawn vms getting "Call to virDomainDefineXML failed: unknown OS type hvm"
[20:45] <pubunt> btw, there's a lot of negative reviews in the software center
[20:46] <pubunt> which shows my experience is not unique
[20:46] <emitattuo> pubunt, part of that could be the general dislike for Flash over open-source options.
[20:47] <pubunt> I dislike flash too but
[20:47] <Ben64> so use chrome, or use pepperflash for firefox, if you want to blame someone, blame adobe
[20:47] <squinty> pubunt, pepperflash (in repo) plus add the PPA for freshplayerplugin   http://askubuntu.com/questions/671242/adobe-flashplugin-works-for-chromium-but-doesnt-work-for-firefox
[20:49] <loculinux> como funciona
[20:51] <optimistic7> good night ;)
[20:51] <OerHeks> papodaca_, maybe this answer applies to you too? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-discuss/2014-10/msg00018.html
[20:52] <BluesKaj> !es | loculinux
[20:52] <dersquisher> hm, I am trying to install gcc-4.6 on a wily but building the pkg from 14.04 gives me an error: msgfmt doesn't like the older libstdc++ of gcc-4.6
[20:52] <OerHeks> papodaca_, and the next answer, maybe virtualisation is not enabled in bios > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-discuss/2014-10/msg00019.html
[20:52] <dersquisher> http://pastie.org/10718478 , does anyone have an idea or workaround?
[20:52] <loculinux> control ciber?
[20:55] <papodaca_> OerHeks, hm I guess that isn't out of the realm of possibility. the thing is that these vms were working last week
[20:55] <papodaca_> I'll try to see if I can figure out what these vms are being launched as
[20:57] <OerHeks> !info gcc wily
[20:57] <OerHeks> dersquisher, wily comes with gcc 5+... why such old version?
[20:58] <dersquisher> OerHeks, research. Old software and bugs require old gcc versions.
[20:58] <OerHeks> dersquisher, install older ubuntu then, 12.04lts/14.04lts ?
[20:58] <ioria> dersquisher, or take a look here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/amd64/gcc-4.6/4.6.4-6ubuntu3
[20:59] <OerHeks> Status: Deleted
[21:04] <ioria> yep, not working
[21:05] <maum> hello
[21:06] <maum> how can I remove specific private key? I inserted the private key by using the command [cat p_key >> ex_bundle]
[21:06] <dersquisher> ioria, interesting, thanks!
[21:06] <ioria> dersquisher,  try the source the .deb not working
[21:07] <daftykins> maum: that sounds very obviously to be part of a non-standard process, so you might want to explain what you're actually doing to the channel
[21:07] <dersquisher> I'm currently building the vivid packaging, if that doesn't work I'll build the one you sent me.
[21:07] <ioria> dersquisher,  good luck
[21:07] <daftykins> i understand the lower relevance, but vivid is EOL
[21:08] <maum> daftykins: there is some ssl like key
[21:08] <dersquisher> daftykins, I don't think that's relevant here, but thanks ;-)
[21:08] <maum> daftykins: I like to remove some specific key in certificate file.
[21:08] <papodaca_> OerHeks, best I can tell as per the libvirt docs hvm should be supported: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsOSBIOS
[21:08] <daftykins> dersquisher: ok, but if that releases' packages are old - it'd be unwise is all
[21:08] <pavlos> maum, seems you appended (>>) the pkey to exbundle. Edit the exbundle and remove the pkey
[21:09] <dersquisher> daftykins, you realize I'm going there particularly to find old versions, right?
[21:09] <daftykins> nope i only just joined so i have no idea what you're talking about - sorry :)
[21:09] <maum> pavlos: I did that but the key is not working. so I think I have to use different way to remove the private key.
[21:10] <papodaca_> OerHeks, `virsh capabilities` does not report any os types as supported @_@
[21:10] <pavlos> maum, if exbundle is not a text file, there must be some pgm to modify contents.
[21:11] <maum> pavlos: pgm?
[21:11] <pavlos> maum, program
[21:11] <maum> pavlos: specific program?
[21:13] <pavlos> maum, I just suggested something. If exbundle is text, you can edit and remove the key. If not, dont know ...
[21:14] <maum> pavlos: ok, thanks
[21:14] <daftykins> run "file exbundle" perhaps
[21:15] <maum> file?
[21:15] <daftykins> yes it's a command that tells you what a file is
[21:15] <maum> but there are several keys in exbundle so I like to remove some specific key.
[21:16] <daftykins> i think we're speaking a different language :)
[21:16] <maum> extracerts.bundle: ASCII text, with CRLF, LF line terminators
[21:16] <maum> it is ASCII text
[21:17] <daftykins> so then it is editable
[21:17] <maum> ok, I will do it
[21:17] <maum> Thanks
[21:26] <ross`> Excuse me, I tried to do an apt-get update on a 12.4 LTS (precise) w/ universe and it is giving me checksum errors
[21:26] <ross`> http://scpb.in/badsum
[21:26] <ross`> can someone please tell me what's going on here?
[21:29] <squinty> ross`,  try using the following command which will delete your old lists and then update them again.  if still having problems, then try another server to see if problem goes away
[21:30] <squinty> ross`,  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update
[21:30] <rewfds> ross`: change servers
[21:30] <rewfds> squinty: say what are you
[21:31] <squinty> rewfds,  ???
[21:31] <Frank_Leach> I am running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Chromebook and I must say, it is seriously impressive...
[21:43] <C_minus> i started a restore from usb disk with dd. Screen went blank. Now the external drive is not detected inlsblk. I'm sure I didn't get the if and of mixed up. I can read from the usb drive on other laptops.
[21:44] <daftykins> are you the one that was unwisely trying to use full disk cloning as a method of backup?
[21:44] <C_minus> But I need it to appear as a device so i can perform the restore, which was interrupted half wy through.
[21:44] <C_minus> yeah it was my only option since clonezilla wasn't working for me at the time.
[21:45] <daftykins> what were you booted into to run the operation?
[21:46] <C_minus> ubuntu live usb environment
[21:46] <daftykins> i take it you've done a full power off / swapped the USB flash drive / hard disk into another port to try?
[21:47] <C_minus> I rebooted back into the live environment. I'm using all the usb ports; 1 for the live environment, 1 for the ethernet adapter, 1 for the external usb drive.
[21:47] <C_minus> i ought to swap them around?
[21:47] <daftykins> you don't need to be online to boot a live session and run dd.
[21:48] <C_minus> but to talk to you...
[21:48] <C_minus> i'll try swapping them around then.
[21:48] <krastavac> can i pass resolution via grub loader console?
[21:48] <daftykins> is it really a flash drive or a hard disk?
[21:48] <daftykins> krastavac: for TTYs or the splash screen i think, but i don't think it affects the desktop
[21:48] <C_minus> my live environment is booted from a flash drive. the external hard drive is a magnetic disc.
[21:49] <krastavac> asking for live distro in vbox from iso
[21:49] <daftykins> disk... ok.
[21:49] <C_minus> This is the output from lsblk now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15019425/
[21:50] <daftykins> krastavac: sorry i don't understand that sentence
[21:50] <C_minus> Before the failed dd operation it had my external drive under /dev/sdc with size ~1TB
[21:51] <daftykins> C_minus: run "sudo parted -l" and throw it in a paste too
[21:51] <krastavac> to change resolution in vbox guest you need to install guest additions and reboot, which is useless if you want to boot live iso
[21:52] <squinty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays
[21:52] <daftykins> krastavac: have you got 3D acceleration enabled on the display options of the VM? i've seen that help VMs, though i might be thinking of vmware... anyway, really a proper install should be used to see it at its' best.
[21:53] <daftykins> you can also just install a driver in a live session via apt, then restart X
[21:53] <ross`> squinty: thanks, that worked.
[21:53] <squinty> ross`, good to hear :-)
[21:55] <krastavac> is there way to pass resolution via boot loader console? as i remember there was something like that in androids boot loader
[21:55] <daftykins> please don't ask in two places at once
[21:56] <daftykins> oh sorry, you didn't - i just pressed the wrong number XD
[21:56]  * daftykins caught with the cold fingers
[21:56] <daftykins> anyway what i've mentioned already should help to some extent
[21:57] <al2o3-cr> daftykins: don't practice being daft ffs :)
[21:58] <daftykins> al2o3-cr: please don't use even obfuscated rudeness in here
[21:58] <al2o3-cr> daftykins: obfuscated it is not
[21:58] <krastavac> GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 this is resolution just for splash screen?
[21:58] <daftykins> yes it is...
[21:59] <al2o3-cr> daftykins: not at all
[21:59] <daftykins> al2o3-cr: it is in acronym form, now stop arguing the factual.
[21:59] <daftykins> krastavac: i honestly think you're going about this the wrong way
[21:59] <al2o3-cr> daftykins: clueless
[22:00] <daftykins> al2o3-cr: perhaps you are unaware of the definition or don't speak English as your mother tongue - regardless, just accept the fact to be polite in here and move on, thanks :)
[22:00] <krastavac> is it true that google doesnt index instagram photos?
[22:00] <daftykins> that's not relevant to #ubuntu support
[22:01] <OerHeks> krastavac, ask the google guys?
[22:01] <al2o3-cr> daftykins: what definition are you speaking about?
[22:01] <OerHeks> al2o3-cr, please stop it, thanks.
[22:02] <al2o3-cr> OerHeks: i wan't to know what daftykins think is factual
[22:02] <al2o3-cr> *want
[22:03] <al2o3-cr> and the definition
[22:04] <al2o3-cr> apparently daftykins doesn't know what obfuscation is
[22:05] <Pici> lets move on
[22:06] <CoolRabbit> hello
[22:07] <C_minus> daftykins, after swapping usb ports I can now see my external drive again, thanks for the advice.
[22:07] <CoolRabbit> having trouble with my wifi ... can anyone help me?
[22:07] <daftykins> CoolRabbit: details help, plus the chipset used if you know it.
[22:08] <CoolRabbit> daftykins, it seems to try to connect and asks for the password ... then asks for it again ... and again
[22:08] <C_minus> I read that source and destination should be unmounted - is that right? my destination (laptop internal drive) is not mounted but the external drive has 2 filesystems mounted at sdc2 and sdc5. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15019542/
[22:08] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Using Ubuntu 14.04 server; I have the headless dropbox softwareinstalled for a sudoer. Is it possible to make this driver start ass a daemon, even if that sudoer is NOT logged in? If so, please point me in the right direction. TIA!
[22:09] <dersquisher> nimbiotics, sure, you need to write an init script for it, or just google if there is one already
[22:09] <C_minus> Am I using "umount correctly here" I can't unmount the filesystem on sdc5? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15019552/
[22:10] <dersquisher> C_minus, in general, yes. Can you paste the output of "mount"?
[22:10] <daftykins> or just run it against the /dev name to reduce typing/error potential
[22:11] <C_minus> dersquinsher certainly thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/15019569/ daftykins I used copy paste
[22:11] <CoolRabbit> daftykins, here is my card as of inxi
[22:11] <CoolRabbit>  Card-2: Broadcom BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n driver: wl
[22:11] <CoolRabbit>            IF: wlan0 state: dormant mac: 00:22:41:f7:63:d5
[22:11] <razor_> hey guys any cool theme suggestions for my ubuntu?
[22:12] <ubuntu-gnome_> hello, anyone run gnome 3.18 here? Ctrl Alt T is not opening the terminal there...
[22:12] <daftykins> !broadcom | CoolRabbit have a read here
[22:12] <daftykins> CoolRabbit: if you've ever tried using "sudo startx" or similar though, you could have /home/username/ ownership issues
[22:12] <dersquisher> C_minus, hm, the 'uhelper=udisks2' is interesting. I'd try running it without sudo
[22:13] <C_minus> dersquished running umount without sudo?
[22:13] <dersquisher> yes
[22:13] <C_minus> dersquisher that worked thanks
[22:14] <C_minus> does anybody have any recommendations of a nice command to pipe dd through pv (in order to display progress stats)?
[22:15] <C_minus> i've seen the use of pv with a "-ptreb" parameter, but I don't know what this does exactly
[22:15] <nimbiotics> dersquisher: I found an init script template (https://github.com/fhd/init-script-template/blob/master/template), but there are a couple of things I don't fully understand. First of all, should I just edit it and put it on /etc/initd? Also, I need to provide the user name, do I also need to provide a pssword somewhere?
[22:16] <dersquisher> nimbiotics, that's a sysv init script, not entirely sure that'll work, depends on your ubuntu version.
[22:16] <dersquisher> generally, yes, and no, you don't need the password in there anywhere
[22:18] <nimbiotics> dersquisher: Using ubuntu 14.04, thats systemd, right?
[22:18] <C_minus> oh i get it, it's a combination of several parameters concatenaated together....
[22:18] <genii> nimbiotics: If it's a sys v init script, just put it /etc/init.d/  and make sure it's executable
[22:19] <dersquisher> nimbiotics, I'm not really keeping track, sorry. If you can run the command 'systemctl', then I think so. And systemd supports those scripts, so that'd work
[22:19] <genii> If it's an upstart script, put it in /etc/init/
[22:19] <genii> Either way it will get run
[22:19] <daftykins> C_minus: dd can report progress with its' PID being sent a "kill -USR1"
[22:19] <daftykins> i don't know if that'll work given the command you've been using though
[22:20] <CoolRabbit> daftykins, or use the pd pipe
[22:20] <C_minus> daftykins why is that? can you suggest something better? it's straight drive to drive restore: sdc -> sda
[22:20] <nimbiotics> dersquisher: I can't run systemctl
[22:20] <CoolRabbit> C_minus
[22:20] <rww> 14.04 uses upstart
[22:21] <nimbiotics> rww; thanks a lot!
[22:21] <C_minus> CoolRabbit yeah?
[22:21] <nimbiotics> dersquisher, genii, rww: Thanks a lot!
[22:21] <rww> (14.10 has systemd but not default, 15.04 replaces upstart with systemd by default)
[22:21] <CoolRabbit> C_minus, I can make a pv pipe with dd ... its like: dd if= lalala | pv --ptreb | dd of=lalalaa
[22:22] <nimbiotics> rww; thanks again
[22:22] <nimbiotics> rww: thanks again
[22:23] <C_minus> CoolRabbit thanks. Where can I specify block sizes for the dd part? Do I need to /  could I specify a block size for the pv part?
[22:24] <CoolRabbit> the first part ... dd bs=4M if = lalaal | pv -c | dd of=lalal
[22:25] <CoolRabbit> C_minus, if you know roughly the size of your file you can use the -cS 2Gb flag on pv ...
[22:26] <daftykins> C_minus: i don't agree with your entire task approach so no, i can't/won't help modify it
[22:26] <ikonia> C_minus: I thought we'd spoke about hos this was a bad idea before ?
[22:26] <ikonia> you appear to be still doing the same thing
[22:26] <ikonia> and you wanted to change it
[22:27] <daftykins> the guy refuses to hear it, yeah
[22:28] <C_minus> ikonia it's the only backup I have. I tried "fixing" that gpt/mbr error according to clonezilla's support page and it bricked my laptop. so thank god I had a dd backup lying around!
[22:28] <ikonia> C_minus: there is no way changing the partition table on an empty disk you're not using will "brick" your laptop
[22:29] <ikonia> the reason you had problems last time was you of=the/wrong/device
[22:29] <ikonia> which is another reason you should not be doing this as a method
[22:29] <C_minus> ikonia when? what should my of have been?
[22:29] <ikonia> C_minus: the blank disk
[22:29] <ikonia> C_minus: you did it to the usb disk you where booted from
[22:30] <C_minus> ikonia no i didn't, I'm using that usb disk right now.
[22:30] <ikonia> C_minus: I can only go by what you told me - you told me you had done it to the 2gb disk
[22:30] <CoolRabbit> hello
[22:30] <ikonia> and to be honest - there is no way to "brick" your latop unless you use the wrong device
[22:32] <C_minus> ikonia dd didn't have anything to do with "bricking" my device. it was the solution proposed here: http://drbl.org/faq/fine-print.php?path=./2_System/116_unmatched_partition_table.faq
[22:32] <C_minus> my laptop just had a blinking cursor after the initial "dell" logo
[22:32] <ikonia> C_minus: and I told you exactly how to fix the partition table problem
[22:32] <ikonia> I went into detaul
[22:32] <ikonia> detail
[22:33] <C_minus> ikonia you did? i must have missed that, i'd be very grateful if you could tell me again.
[22:33] <ikonia> C_minus: you didn't miss it - as we worked it through and you told me you had done it to the wrong device (2GB device that was your usb stick)
[22:33] <ikonia> at that point you left
[22:33] <ikonia> took a good 45 minutes of talking and explaining it
[22:34] <C_minus> ikonia i think you might be mistaken, or i gave you bad info at the time. because the usb stick is golden i'm using it to run a live environment and talk to you right now.
[22:34] <C_minus> what you told me to do, if i remember, was to overwrite an external drive with /dev/zero
[22:35] <ikonia> C_minus: no doubt, but that doesn't change the fact that I walked you through it
[22:35] <ikonia> C_minus: write zeros to the drive, or blank the partition table, which is what we did
[22:35] <C_minus> we did that to an external hard drive (not the same one by dd backup is on.) the gpt/mbr problem is on my laptop's internal hard drive.
[22:36] <ikonia> I'm not sure why that is a problem ?
[22:36] <C_minus> because it caused clonezilla to throw an error instead of making me a backup medium.
[22:36] <ikonia> I can image my gpt based systems just fine
[22:37] <ikonia> I'd suggest working it through with the clonezilla support guys if in doubt
[22:37] <ikonia> carrying on as you are doing will lead to failure
[22:37] <C_minus> therefore i was forced to pursue other means (i.e. dd) to make a backup (since the procedure for fixing the gpt/mbr mismatch error contained multiple warnings about deleting data)
[22:37] <ikonia> and to be honest - I'd question if you should be depending on an "image" as a regular backup option
[22:37] <C_minus> ikonia isn't that the simplest way to restore a dual boot configuration? without messing around with lots of  different images for different partitions?
[22:38] <ikonia> much much not
[22:38] <ikonia> and again - I'd question if you should be using "images" as a core option
[22:38] <ikonia> but we covered this before
[22:38] <C_minus> duely noted
[22:40] <daftykins> C_minus: don't take this the wrong way - but it's clear you've just grabbed a bunch of commands and throw them at your system without a full understanding, which has, is and will continue to cause issues
[22:41] <C_minus> i don't take offense to that at all. i'm here to learn.
[22:42] <daftykins> right... and using tools like dd is tough because a single typo can hose everything in one go
[22:43] <ouroumov> Anyone know why a garbled splash screen resulting from a previous failed FDE install would survive a clean reinstall with root partition formated and how to fix it?
[22:43] <Frank_Leach> strangest thing...i just powered up my chromebook, first time in a week, did an update and dist upgrade in terminal, rebooted to finish update...rebooted and my cursor from my mouse is gone! Can anyone help?
[22:43] <C_minus> right now, given that my laptop is in hard-drive-purgatory and all i have is a full drive backup made with dd, I need to get it restored. I'm more than willing to take advice about how I should do this and that, but right now none of that is very useful to me.
[22:44] <daftykins> C_minus: i understand that, however it's at this moment - when you've broken it - that the warning needs to be repeated to highlight it
[22:44] <daftykins> so what exactly is the problem? all you need do is repeat what you've done before to restore to the internal drive presumably.
[22:45] <C_minus> daftykins i used dd to restore it. i can't remember the exact command someone here helped me formulate it.
[22:45] <C_minus> piped through pv to produce eta, progress bar etc.
[22:45] <daftykins> right but you said it got interrupted, so just do it again
[22:46] <daftykins> i mean you had the disappearing internal disk thing before, but i asked for a "sudo parted -l" - not seen it yet.
[22:47] <C_minus> daftykins, thats because your proposal of swapping usb ports seemed to work ;) !
[22:47] <Frank_Leach> can anyone help me restore my mouse function?
[22:47] <daftykins> C_minus: err i'm not sure how that applies to either thing i said
[22:48] <C_minus> the drive was acknowledged. here it is if you're still interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15019865/
[22:49] <daftykins> yeah so i see all 3, so where's the problem?
[22:49] <daftykins> run your restore with the appropriate source disk as if= and target as of= and let it run
[22:53] <Frank_Leach> Anyone free to help?
[22:53] <daftykins> someone will reply if they can, more detail on one line might help
[22:53] <Frank_Leach> recent update/dust upgrade from terminal has diabled my touchpad/mouse
[22:54] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: try an older kernel as a temp fix
[22:54] <C_minus> daftykins, ikonia thanks for the help, I do genuinely appreciate it.
[22:55] <daftykins> no problem, but do heed our warnings
[22:55] <daftykins> i'll totally "i told you so" next time you wipe the wrong thing :)
[22:55] <C_minus> i look forward to it.
[22:56] <Frank_Leach> eric, i always do a full clean after a kernel update, i dont have the older kernel on my machine. It is a chromebook, not much space
[22:56] <daftykins> oh chromebook - real install or chrubuntu or some such?
[22:57] <Frank_Leach> how would I restore the previous kernel if I did a full clean?
[22:57] <deniz946> hello all, how i can unrar .rar files? i've tried with unrar but it don't let me
[22:57] <Frank_Leach> real install, ubuntu 15.10,
[22:57] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: type uname -r for a sec
[22:57] <daftykins> deniz946: with unrar
[22:57] <Frank_Leach> uname -r
[22:57] <xangua> A full clean? If you mean autoremove, it should keep at least two previous kernels Frank_Leach
[22:57] <deniz946> daftykins, i've tried
[22:57] <Frank_Leach> autoremove, yes..
[22:57] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: in a terminal
[22:57] <daftykins> deniz946: tried what specifically - and what happened? the tool may need to be installed.
[22:57] <rww> !info unrar-nonfree
[22:57] <rww> oh rite the free one is -free
[22:57] <rww> nvm
[22:58] <deniz946> pi@raspberrypi /media/2TB/Programacion/Video-Cursos comprados/Taller CSS avanzado (hondilla) $ sudo unrar Clase\ 01.rar
[22:58] <daftykins> deniz946: is that even ubuntu, or debian? it matters.
[22:58] <Frank_Leach> 4.2.0.29 generic
[22:58] <Frank_Leach> 4.2.0-29 generic
[22:59] <VelusUniverseSys> hello all im not to sure if this is the best place to ask but where can i get a bit of software to stream playlists to an icecast server? does anyone know any good bits of software?
[22:59] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: as xangua said if you did autoremove then just switch to the previous
[22:59] <Frank_Leach> how do i revert to previous kernel?
[22:59] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: type dpkg -l linux-image*
[22:59] <Frank_Leach> How Eric?
[22:59] <Frank_Leach> ok..
[23:00] <EriC^^> does it mention old ones with a "ii" at the beginning of the line?
[23:00] <FdoFromChile> hello
[23:00] <deniz946> im geting, this error message "-bash: /usr/local/bin/unrar: cannot execute binary file"
[23:00] <FdoFromChile> como se usa esto???.... help please!!!
[23:00] <pouet12345> hello
[23:00] <pouet12345> is there a way to have a grub shell from inside a running linux
[23:00] <pouet12345> ?
[23:01] <k1l_> !es | FdoFromChile
[23:01] <rww> deniz946: did you install the `unrar` package from apt or something else? are you using Ubuntu or something else?
[23:01] <k1l_> pouet12345: what are you trying to do?
[23:02] <deniz946> rww i did sudo apt-get install unrar-free, im using ubuntu
[23:02] <rww> try enabling multiverse and installing unrar (not -free)
[23:03] <rww> but it confuses me that it's seeing /usr/local/bin/unrar and not /usr/bin/unrar
[23:03] <rww> which leads me to suspect there is something other than APT package going on here
[23:03] <pouet12345> k1l_, first, can I do it or not ?
[23:03] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet there's something other than ubuntu going on there, too
[23:03] <deniz946> rww what is multiverse?
[23:03] <k1l_> pouet12345: no.
[23:04] <pouet12345> k1l_, ok
[23:04] <Frank_Leach> ok Eric, i got a list of kernels I think from dpkg -l linux-image*
[23:04] <pouet12345> k1l_, I need to get the list of partitions names, the way that grub see them at boot
[23:04] <Frank_Leach> not sure how to proceed
[23:04] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: is there a kernel other than the one uname -r returned?
[23:04] <Frank_Leach> there are 4
[23:05] <pouet12345> k1l_, I can reboot and see them, but I would prefer not reboot yet
[23:05] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: does it say "ii" at the beginning of the lines?
[23:05] <k1l_> pouet12345: like what names?
[23:05] <pouet12345> k1l_, like the device names
[23:05] <EriC^^> pouet12345: are you writing a custom grub entry?
[23:05] <pouet12345> /dev/mapper/something but with grub naming
[23:06] <Frank_Leach> one previous one, yes
[23:06] <Frank_Leach> 4.2.0-27.32
[23:06] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: ok, restart the pc, hold shift when it boots to get grub, then go to advanced > choose the older kernel
[23:06] <Frank_Leach> no grub on chromecook...using the john lewis seabios thingy
[23:07] <k1l_> pouet12345: grub uses (hd0,0). do you mean this?
[23:07] <Frank_Leach> is there any way on terminal to do it?
[23:07] <Xantos> JOIN boggle
[23:07] <pouet12345> k1l_, yes, but I want that for lvm partitions. wich is like (lvm/something)
[23:08] <pouet12345> I guess mkconfig can guess it, so there should be a way
[23:08] <xf> l
[23:08] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: maybe john lewis seabios boots grub?
[23:09] <Frank_Leach> nope, it doesn't sadly..
[23:09] <Deltanic> hi, i have a small python script (running on a server, using putty) that expects some input before it continues after which it will run for a few hours. now, i kinda want to sleep, is there any way in ubuntu that lets me move that process to the background after the input, which lets me safely close the terminal?
[23:09] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: ok, you can remove the new kernel, and you'd be left with the old one
[23:10] <Frank_Leach> sounds good.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> pouet12345: Maube : ' cat /proc/partitions ' ?
[23:10] <pouet12345> Bashing-om, it would be like that but from grub perspective
[23:11] <pouet12345> and not linux perspective
[23:11] <Frank_Leach> How do i do that?
[23:12] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.2.0-29-generic
[23:12] <Frank_Leach> sweet...
[23:13] <Frank_Leach> cool...i will then reboot and see what happens, I will let you know
[23:14] <EriC^^> Deltanic: if you press ctrl+z, then type "bg" , then type "disown" you can close the terminal and it should keep running
[23:15] <Deltanic> EriC^^, i see, thanks!
[23:15] <EriC^^> np
[23:17] <Frank_Leach> Thanks Eric, that worked fine
[23:17] <Frank_Leach> mouse is perfect again
[23:17] <EriC^^> Frank_Leach: great, no problem
[23:18] <pouet12345> ok I will just reboot then ^^
[23:18] <pouet12345> or maybe if I boot a live cd in a vm, I can reach what I
[23:18] <pouet12345> mmm no, I won't since I would not mount lvm in the vm
[23:18] <daftykins> sure you could
[23:19] <EriC^^> pouet12345: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:21] <pouet12345> EriC^^, I am trying to fix my "multiboot  (lvm/volume/logic)/boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img"
[23:21] <pouet12345> i will simply reboot, since I can't guess the right name from linux
[23:21] <EriC^^> pouet12345: update-grub isn't getting it right?
[23:23] <gear4> "g++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)"
[23:23] <gear4> Good Game Well Played, Ubuntu 15.10
[23:25] <pouet12345> EriC^^, I don't use update grub to do a multiboot with lvm. I have to load core.img since you can't embed grub inside a lvm partition
[23:26] <pouet12345> EriC^^, I found the right syntax in the #grub channel
[23:26] <pouet12345> menuentry "load hcpc-linux_trusty 14.04 trusty" {
[23:26] <pouet12345>         multiboot (lvm/hcpc-linux_trusty)/boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img
[23:26] <pouet12345> }
[23:26] <gear4> so can anyone explain to me why only Ubuntu 15.10 fails with gcc 5.3 ?
[23:26] <EriC^^> pouet12345: isn't grub in the mbr?
[23:26] <gear4> it works perfect on 12.04 so
[23:27] <pouet12345> EriC^^, some parts of grub are in the mbr, the other parts are on a regular file system, and you can chainload grub and kernels
[23:28] <EriC^^> pouet12345: you're not using a separate /boot?
[23:28] <pouet12345> EriC^^, you have a part in the mbr, a part can be in a small grub boot partition, and the rest is in /boot/grub/i386-pc
[23:29] <pouet12345> EriC^^, not really. grub2 can find the linux kernel directly on lvm partition
[23:30] <pouet12345> EriC^^, so I have a fake /boot partition that contains only /grub/  then from there i use "multiboot (lvm/hcpc-linux_trusty)/boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img"
[23:30] <pouet12345> multiboot (lvm/hcpc-linux_warewolf)/boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img
[23:30] <pouet12345> this is the way to multiboot easily with LVM
[23:33] <EriC^^> oh ok
[23:36] <jwynn6> anyone have any reason that i cannot get an ssh socks tunnel to attach to a 12.04 install
[23:37] <ouroumov> jwynn6, did you sudo apt-get install ssh?
[23:38] <daftykins> pretty sure openssh-server being there is not jwynn6's issue ;)
[23:39] <jwynn6> yeah, it might be. ive got a server that has no public access but i can ssh into it
[23:39] <jwynn6> im trying to update it and figured thats the best way to tunnel access out
[23:40] <k1l_> jwynn6: can you explain the "not public but you can ssh" a bit more?
[23:40] <jwynn6> its in a corp network. firewalled in a dmz, with the exception of ssh
[23:41] <daftykins> update what?
[23:41] <jwynn6> i can get that from my portion of the corp net, and i can get out to do updates.  trying to tunnel out so i can run apt-get update/upgrade
[23:43] <jwynn6> maybe theres a better way to do this. im open to ideas
[23:45] <daftykins> i don't really know what you're trying to achieve
[23:45] <ouroumov> Me neither
[23:45] <ouroumov> Why would you need to tunnel out to run apt-get update if you say you can get out to do updates?
[23:46] <jwynn6> oh, sorry. my laptop can, but the server cant.
[23:46] <k1l_> he wants to tunnel traffic (to run system updates) form a firewalled system over ssh to a workplace machine that can connect outside.
[23:46] <jwynn6> yup. correct.
[23:46] <ouroumov> Uh, okay
[23:46] <k1l_> i would ask the admin if he can open ports for that task for that machine
[23:48] <odraude> hola
[23:48] <daftykins> hello
[23:48] <jwynn6> it took them a month to approve the ssh port for me to access the server i own.
[23:48] <daftykins> that sounds like a bad provider
[23:48] <Spec> lol
[23:49] <tgm4883> seriously
[23:49] <jwynn6> oh yeah. not a happy camper about it. but its what the bossman paid for and he wants to get his money's worth
[23:49] <k1l_> i dont fully understand that network setup and the purpose of that.
[23:50] <tgm4883> k1l_: nobody does. that's how it's so secure, it's impossible to hack what can't be understood
[23:50] <lorenzo> hi! how can I add this ppa? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-msp430
[23:50] <tgm4883> lorenzo: that's not a PPA
[23:51] <lorenzo> oh it's already in the repos :-) thank
[23:51] <lorenzo> s
[23:51] <k1l_> lorenzo: that packages are in universe
[23:52] <user_> can anyone help me out? having a really hard time installing a dual boot on my mac
[23:52] <jwynn6> haha yup. useful waste of money isnt it.
[23:52] <user_> trying to make the switch over to ubuntu
[23:53] <daftykins> !mac
[23:53] <daftykins> sometimes other model pages help
[23:53] <Bashing-om> !mac | user_ Have you seen :
[23:53] <user_> i've done all that
[23:53] <user_> i burned a good disk.... do the install
[23:54] <user_> but my imac doesn't boot it
[23:54] <Jordan_U> user_: What iso did you burn from? How did you burn it?
[23:55] <user_> i downloaded the file from the ubuntu webite. burned the iso image. have run it as a live boot successfully
[23:56] <user_> i may be having trouble with telling it where to install or where to find it, i'm not sure
[23:56] <Jordan_U> user_: What is the name of the .iso file? I assume you burned it to a DVD? (Sometimes people incorrectly call writing to a USB drive "burning")
[23:56] <user_> burned to dvd
[23:57] <Jordan_U> user_: What happens when you boot with the DVD in the Mac's drive and while holding the 'c' key?
[23:58] <user_> i'm not sure... i have done it holding alt because I'm using a windows keyboard and it will pull up the install cd... then i do the whole install... it finishes. restarts computer as i'm holding alt after ejecting dvd and nothing happens.
[23:58] <user_> disk utility shows the memory being used but doesn't show the drive existing after the install so i have just been deleting it again
[23:59] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | user_
[23:59] <easyOnMe> ikonia: are you around