[02:12] <cfhowlett> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/vote.pl?id=E_0fdc957f50e982d0
[11:35] <sakrecoer_> so, the call for votes is out in the ether :)
[11:36] <sakrecoer_> great jobb on that vote set-up cfhowlett :)
[11:36] <sakrecoer_> 75 entires!!!!
[11:36] <cfhowlett> yeah.  I can't twitter or GPlus it though.  Please send it through your channels.
[11:38] <sakrecoer_> you mean you don't have any?
[11:38] <sakrecoer_> good on you if it is the case :D
[11:38] <cfhowlett> I tried to use the US twitter but couldn't log in.
[11:39] <sakrecoer_> ah, its there already
[11:39] <sakrecoer_> g-, twatter, facebuck, and diaspora :)
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Just confirmed - it is already on GPlus
[11:39] <sakrecoer_> yes
[11:40] <cfhowlett> cool!
[12:02] <sakrecoer_> oh, the ubuntu forums maybe :)
[12:02] <cfhowlett> doh!  yeah!  you got that covered?
[12:03] <sakrecoer_> *blush* i completly forgot to announce the contest there.... :facepalmingmyself: but maybe its ok anyways... :/
[12:04] <sakrecoer_> grrr... silly me, generously ranting about mainstream socialmedia, and then i forget the forum :'(
[12:07] <cfhowlett> just posted to Ubuntu Studio forums
[12:09] <sakrecoer_> awsome, i'm struggling to get in...
[12:10] <sakrecoer_> i don't know how but i've ended up with 2 accounts..
[12:10] <sakrecoer_> one with the gmail that is only active on the forum...
[12:11] <sakrecoer_> well.. "how" i know: i registered twice obviously...
[12:12] <cfhowlett> "Hotwheel" at fullscreen = awesome!
[12:19] <sakrecoer_> one of my favourite is yours cfhowlett :) i didn't notice before
[12:20] <sakrecoer_> LineNovaStudio
[12:20] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:17] <zequence> cfhowlett: sakrecoer_: Just to clarify one thing. The vote for wallpapers is just for which wallpapers are included in the install, right?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> zequence, correct.  
[15:17] <zequence> Ah, great.
[15:17] <cfhowlett> the remainder can be packaged for an optional "community wallpapers" package later
[15:19] <zequence> That's a good idea
[15:20] <cfhowlett> one way to leverage community interest
[15:20] <knome> zequence, sakrecoer_: any news about the theme testing? :)
[15:21] <zequence> When it comes to artwork, it's hard to make that a democratic procedure.
[15:21] <zequence> At the very least, the people making the choices need to have some form of competence and experience
[15:21] <cfhowlett> yeah, I'm watching the voting results.  they are ... surprising.  BUT the Art Team can choose which ever image they deem appropriate for the default wallpaper
[15:21] <zequence> For things like the default wallpaper, desktop theming, etc
[15:22] <zequence> knome: I haven't touched it since we were in contact the last time.
[15:22] <knome> you probably should, i've landed this and that
[15:23] <zequence> knome: You fixed the image problem, right?
[15:23] <zequence> And, there's a sidebar now. Let me update it
[15:24] <knome> zequence, the image problem was never there ;)
[15:24] <knome> (or you did something wrong)
[15:24] <knome> or maybe some inline css came in from somewhere
[15:30] <zequence> knome: Oh, great. It has all the stuff we need now
[15:31] <zequence> Ok, I don't still understand the problem with one of the images. But the same image in two different posts is handled differently
[15:31] <zequence> No
[15:31] <zequence> The first one is smaller to begin with
[15:31] <zequence> The images don't shrink
[15:31] <zequence> ..when you make the browser window smaller
[15:32] <knome> remind me of the url you are having problms at
[15:32] <zequence> http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/
[15:32] <zequence> Third image
[15:33] <knome> oh wow, wordpress seems to add some srcset="" now
[15:33] <knome> don't know if that's what is messing up with it
[15:33] <cfhowlett> the deprecated word/brandmark?
[15:34] <zequence> cfhowlett: No, just images posted in a WP post
[15:34] <cfhowlett> gotch
[15:34] <zequence> When you make the browser window smaller, it would be nice if the images in that post shrunk to the width of the browser window
[15:35] <zequence> Like, when you use a browser in your phone
[15:36] <zequence> I like how the menu is created on the right side, and the logo ends up on the left side in a small window
[15:36] <knome> OHHH
[15:36] <knome> the containing div has a specified size
[15:38] <knome> zequence, do you use firefox and stylish?
[15:38] <zequence> knome: Yep
[15:38] <zequence> for both
[15:38] <knome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15016749/
[15:38] <knome> this should fix it
[15:39] <knome> actually you likely don't even need the !important
[15:39] <knome> yep, that's trye
[15:39] <knome> *true too
[15:40] <zequence> Yes, that worked.
[15:40] <knome> great, i'll add that to the theme
[15:41] <knome> and done
[15:41] <zequence> That pretty much concludes doing all the functional stuff that I personally would need
[15:41] <zequence> I like it!
[15:42] <knome> goodie :)
[15:42] <knome> what about the visual side then?
[15:42] <knome> and are you still wanting a slideshow on the front page?
[15:42] <zequence> No, I don't think we need that.
[15:42] <zequence> But, we'll need to work on the colors a bit
[15:43] <knome> sure
[15:43] <knome> i would put it like this:
[15:43] <zequence> Think what I want to do is make the grey a bit darker. That's pretty much it for me.
[15:43] <knome> since you are the main target for the dark theme, let's just make the dark variant work for you
[15:43] <knome> and i'm sure other people who want a dark theme will be happy
[15:43] <knome> oh, one question:
[15:44] <knome> when using the dark theme, do you think the dark dropdown menus are preferred, or would you actually prefer to keep the dropdowns light as they are regularly?
[15:45] <zequence> knome: I like having them as is
[15:45] <knome> dark, that is?
[15:45] <knome> or light?
[15:45] <knome> you confused me now...
[15:46] <zequence> The menus is the same color as the top bar, in our case blue. I like keeping it that way
[15:46] <zequence> menu*
[15:46] <knome> noooo
[15:46] <knome> add a submenu item for a menu item
[15:46] <zequence> Ah
[15:46] <knome> and make sure you don't get the mobile menu
[15:46] <knome> so... this is now dark on dark
[15:46] <knome> is that good, or would you prefer to have it light?
[15:47] <knome> or do you think it's something that will tear people apart, and that it would be good to offer both alternatives?
[15:47] <zequence> No, I think I prefer having the same color on the menu as the top bar
[15:47] <zequence> It looks really good in blue for us
[15:48] <knome> i think you are still missing the point :D
[15:48] <zequence> Right, not mobile menus
[15:48] <zequence> Let me check
[15:48] <knome> well in mobile menu too; the submenu items are shown in dark/light
[15:49] <knome> but the regular view gives you a better idea what i'm talking about
[15:49] <zequence> Think I would like them in the same color as the top bar, though, but I need to check
[15:52] <zequence> knome: I don't have a strong opinion right now. It looks ok.
[15:53] <zequence> I need to think about it
[15:54] <knome> zequence, sure. and if the colors feel off, we can modify them too
[15:54] <zequence> knome: No. I do prefer them dark. I was also thinking about perhaps making the have the same color as the top bar
[15:54] <zequence> So, either dark, or in our case bliue
[15:54] <zequence> blue*
[15:55] <knome> zequence, the border for the submenu bubble is a bit weird imo
[15:55] <zequence> knome: Yes, I noticed that too
[15:55] <knome> i'll likely revisit that when i'm home tonight or some other day in the next few days
[15:55] <zequence> ok
[15:56] <knome> but feel free to suggest something else in between
[15:56] <knome> as i said before, all the dark style related stuff is in css/style-dark.css
[15:56] <knome> so not too much digging to do if you want to play around with it
[15:57] <zequence> If the menu would have the same color as the top bar, which I think could look nice, there needs to be some horisontal positioning difference in the mobile menu, or something that shows which items are submenus
[15:58] <knome> i don't think i'd want to change the submenu bg for the mobile style menu
[15:58] <zequence> Could be a difference in the font too. Bold, vs normal
[15:58] <knome> and i don't think the header color would work too well with the regular view
[15:59] <zequence> I would like to try that, anyway. But, I'll wait until after FF
[15:59] <knome> the same with the font stuff, then the regular view should have bold/medium for the main items too i think
[15:59] <knome> (though that's doable imo)
[16:00] <zequence> Alright. Need to jump in the shower
[16:00] <knome> have fun, but don't get too wet!
[16:11] <sakrecoer_> knome: great improvements in mobile size! looks very good!
[16:12] <knome> thanks, and happy you like them
[16:14] <sakrecoer_> the submenu works in grey.. color scheme is delicate. i like how the darker blue on a:active interacts with it...
[16:15] <knome> it's actually the same blue, you're just seeing weird stuff
[16:15] <knome> ;)
[16:16] <sakrecoer_> right:D my briwser highlughts with green on tap 
[16:16] <sakrecoer_> browser highlights*
[16:17] <knome> bbl
[16:18] <sakrecoer_> transparent green that is, making it darker.
[16:18] <sakrecoer_> ok, i'll take some notes and try some stuff! read you later