[00:00] <ScottK> clivejo: quassel is updated in Debian, so someone can look at sync or merge.
[00:01] <clivejo> hi ScottK, are you on the launchpad project?
[00:04] <ScottK> For quassel?
[00:04] <ScottK> No.
[00:05] <ScottK> BTW, if you find stuff in the Ubuntu package we ought to have in Debian (i.e. you merge not sync), then please file bugs in Debian.
[00:05] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~quassel-dev
[00:06] <ScottK> That doesn't actually do anything.
[00:06] <clivejo> are you Scott Kitterman?
[00:06] <ScottK> I am.
[00:07] <ScottK> At one point we were considering using LP for upstream quassel translations.
[00:07] <ScottK> Note that the most recent branch is years old.
[00:07] <clivejo> I see
[00:08] <ScottK> Thanks for the pointer though.  It's one more little piece of LP cruft to clean up to quit that.
[09:52] <totof-at-work> hi all, is there a date for having plasma 5.5.4 in wily backport ppa ?
[09:55] <valorie> when it's done
[09:55] <valorie> totof-at-work: you can test, if you are a knowledgeable user
[09:56] <valorie> 1. install ppa-purge
[09:56] <totof-at-work> thks for this answer ... I only see that packages in backport-landing don't evolve since one week :) 
[09:56] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[09:56] <valorie> then add the backports-landing PPA
[09:57] <valorie> test, then remove that PPA
[09:57] <valorie> only purge it if you are having serious problems
[09:57] <valorie> if you decide to test, please come here and report your problems
[09:58] <valorie> totof-at-work: we don't have enough people doing packaging to get things done quickly these days
[09:58] <valorie> if you are interested in helping, please stick around
[09:58] <totof-at-work> I opened the bug 358359 that was fixed but it seems that the fix wasn't not included in 5.5.4 packages ? Anyone can confirm ?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:47] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:47] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hey clivejo, soee, what's happening today?
[11:48] <clivejo> soee and BluesKaj would you guys testify for me?
[11:48] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~clivejo
[11:48] <BluesKaj> testify ?
[11:48] <clivejo> tell the world how great I am :P
[11:49] <clivejo> Im applying for Kubuntu membership
[11:49] <soee> clivejo: "I am ashamed to say, I was a Windoze user and was involved in beta testing Vista"
[11:49] <clivejo> and if you do, please use @SIG@ to sign it
[11:49] <soee> nothing to be ashamed - i say it is a big +
[11:50] <clivejo> I know, so very ashamed!
[11:50] <soee> valorie: ping
[11:51] <clivejo> Actually the first time I installed Linux I blew up my monitor :/
[11:51] <clivejo> Id got a Mandrake box set somewhere
[11:51] <clivejo> late 1990's
[11:53] <soee> ;D
[11:53] <soee> clivejo: whole wiki page looks good :)
[11:53] <clivejo> somehow jacked the refresh rate up and monitor couldnt handle it
[11:54] <soee> do not worry i saw article today that changing some date in ios (iphone) leads to phone destruction :D
[11:57] <soee> where do i define environment variables ?
[11:58] <clivejo> environment variables ?
[12:00] <soee> yes
[12:00] <clivejo> for what?
[12:00] <soee> ok i found something: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[12:00] <soee> clivejo: there is a bug in latest Nvidia driver and as a workaround (till next release) they suggesto to set one env variable
[12:00] <soee> __GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1
[12:00] <clivejo> ah
[12:01] <soee> so we have /etc/environment for a system wide variables
[14:10] <clivejo> sitter: whats up with KCI, there are 15 jobs stuck for about an hour and a half now
[14:15] <sgclark> it usually get stuck at launchpad being  unresposive. may want to look at the logs
[14:21] <sgclark> mm publication checks. maybe not
[14:25] <clivejo> hi sgclark
[14:25] <sgclark> hi
[14:25] <sitter> clivejo: launchpad slow to build I'd say
[14:26] <sgclark> the ones I looked at got past builds are fine, publication check
[14:26] <sgclark> is where they sit
[14:26] <clivejo> stuck in the mud, Ill get the tractor the tow them out
[14:27] <sitter> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+sourcepub/6064830/+listing-archive-extra
[14:27] <sitter> slow to publish actually
[14:27] <sgclark> ahh. 
[14:27] <sitter> built an hour ago, still not published
[14:27]  * clivejo kicks LP
[14:27] <sgclark> got it, so yeah aunchpad is to blame
[14:28] <sitter> you might want to check in with wgrant though. an hour too publish is not normal
[15:08] <mgolden_> Question:
[15:09] <mgolden_> What is the testing plan for 16.04 ISOs?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> the plan is install and run it , then report any bugs :-)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> mgolden_, a lot depends on your hardware and their drivers and what packages you like to use and this is the release schedule,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[15:18] <mgolden_> Right, when do I get to do that?
[15:18] <mgolden_> Just a question of planning my time...
[15:19] <mgolden_> I hadn't seen the schedule before.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> mgolden_, the best method id to install the daily build, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[15:20] <BluesKaj> id=is
[15:20] <mgolden_> Is kubuntu going to have a beta on 2/25?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> mgolden_, if that's what the schedule says then yes 
[15:23] <mgolden_> Well, the schedule says "for opt-in flavors" which is the same thing it says for the Alphas, but there haven't been any alphas this time (to my knowledge)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> opt in flavors includes kubuntu if that's what you mean
[15:25] <allee> mgolden_: Hi Mitch, did you solve your 30 sec login problem?
[15:26] <mgolden_> Hi
[15:27] <mgolden_> allee_: Removing akonadi had no effect the first couple of times, but now it seems fast
[15:28] <mgolden_> BluesKaj: OK, I look forward to testing it.  I know there used to be alphas so I wasn't sure how it was going to go this time.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> the daily build is your best bet , that method brings alona all the latest fixes and packages, mgolden_
[15:31] <BluesKaj> along
[15:31] <BluesKaj> gawd  my spelling is awful today 
[15:32] <mgolden_> BluesKaj: Will do.
[15:33] <mgolden_> Bye
[15:43] <sgclark> wgrant: we seem to have a bottleneck with publications on launchpad, mind taking a look?
[15:48] <sgclark> clivejo: the packages with epoch remove and rename need the changelog entry to match what debian did and you will need to rename the source tarball to match. it is so the two versions can coexist.
[15:49] <sgclark> not sure how we can handle the rename in our scripts though, yofel perhaps can do some magic there.
[15:50] <clivejo> sgclark: could we go through one together?
[15:50] <sgclark> I am here if you have questions
[15:52] <clivejo> I need to do it and see it, my brain works strangely
[15:53] <clivejo> sgclark: also would you testify for my kubuntu application if you get a few minutes? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~clivejo
[15:53] <sgclark> you bet
[15:54] <clivejo> thanks
[15:54] <clivejo> aparently you sign it with  @SIG@
[15:55] <clivejo> if you have any tips on something to add or remove, please do let me know
[16:09] <clivejo> sgclark: what happens if debian changed the name a couple versions ago and we have released one in the mean time under the old name and epoch?
[16:11] <sgclark> rename is happening in debian merge. I would think it is fine. perhaps confirmation from yofel
[16:11] <sgclark> rename should make the epoch irrelevant..
[16:13] <sgclark> libkf5kdcraw successfully built which is the one I did
[16:13] <sgclark> still not publishing of course..
[16:15] <sgclark> anyway, I am moving forward, the farther we stray from debian the more unnecessary work for us.
[16:17] <clivejo> I done this one - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/8984887
[16:17] <clivejo> builds ok, but not showing on QA
[16:19] <sgclark> clivejo: ah the packageset needs to be updated for that
[16:19] <clivejo> in KA?
[16:19] <sgclark> sadly I get denied when trying to commit to kubuntu-automation so yofel will have to I guess unless you have access..
[16:20] <clivejo> I should have access :/
[16:20] <clivejo> havent tried it recently
[16:20] <clivejo> shall I try?
[16:20] <sgclark> I don't but whatever
[16:22] <clivejo> edit applications-xenial?
[16:22] <sgclark> yup
[16:22] <sgclark> can you edit libkf5kdcraw while in there clivejo?
[16:22] <sgclark> well it was libkdcraw
[16:25] <clivejo> Ive just done libkf5kdcraw and libkf5sane
[16:25] <sgclark> thanks!
[16:25] <clivejo> see how qa reacts
[16:26] <clivejo> will debian rename the git too?
[16:26] <clivejo> qa is set on a cron sync every 10 mins isnt it?
[16:27] <sgclark> no clue on git, probably not if they have not done so already. 10 mins sounds about right.
[16:27] <clivejo> sgclark: are you pulling the KA from LP git?
[16:28] <sgclark> yeah I think so, is there another?
[16:28] <clivejo> they moved from bzr to git
[16:28] <sgclark> yeah I had access to bzr, but get denied on git
[16:29] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/
[16:29] <sgclark> I have the repo.. but get denied with git
[16:29] <sgclark> pushing
[16:29] <clivejo> strange
[16:32] <clivejo> sgclark: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html
[16:33] <clivejo> libkf5sane is now showing, but not libkf5kdcraw
[16:35] <clivejo> ah, its not published and there is no previous version so its blank
[16:36] <clivejo> doesnt display
[16:36] <sgclark> yeah launchpad seems to be broken.
[16:36] <sgclark> Gonna go wear my KDE hat for awhile.
[16:37] <clivejo> KCI seems to be broken too!
[16:40] <clivejo> if its not debian git being slow, its launchpad!
[16:40] <clivejo> cant seem to catch a break!
[16:40] <sgclark> KCI is not broken, it is waiting on launchpad
[17:31] <yofel> sgclark, clivejo: yes, keep debian renames even if the rename version doesn't match
[17:32] <yofel> sgclark: and there's a source package name <=> upstream name map in the automation tools. And I think the watch files can also handle name mismatches
[17:32] <yofel> several maps actually, be careful there
[17:46] <sgclark> yofel: ok, but I cannot commit to automation git. access denied
[19:04] <clivejo> sgclark: there are a few packages which you uploaded for 15.12.1, but are showing as red on qa, do you want me to leave them for you to fix?
[19:04] <sgclark> if I had to guess it is pim
[19:05] <clivejo> ah gwenview seems to be deps
[19:05] <sgclark> if you want to fix them , I am totally ok with that
[19:05] <sgclark> yeah we still have a bunch of libs to be done
[19:05] <clivejo> I think thats the problem
[19:05] <clivejo> KF5Kipi
[19:05] <sgclark> distracted by KDE stuff atm though
[19:05] <clivejo> and KF5KDcraw
[19:06] <sgclark> mm that sould be ther
[19:06] <sgclark> etherre
[19:06] <sgclark> bah
[19:06] <clivejo> publisher is still playing up!
[19:06] <sgclark> well when kipi is  done it will need a rebuild
[19:08] <clivejo> I think Ill leave it until the publisher starts playing ball again
[19:08] <clivejo> its rather annoying
[19:08] <sgclark> I saw KCI stuff going by, should be good
[19:10] <clivejo> libkf5kdcraw started 3 hours ago and finished after 2mins, 34.6 seconds and its still not published!
[19:11] <sgclark> oh goodness
[19:11] <sgclark> guess that deems it still broken
[19:30] <sgclark> all of the failures are due to launchpad publishing taking 3+ hours... not actual build fails
[19:31] <sgclark> but then we are poor maintainers so meh
[21:16] <valorie> sorry for the late response, soee, but pong
[21:21] <clivejo> hi valorie
[21:21] <valorie> hi clive, how's it going
[21:22] <clivejo> great bar an S2 going crazy
[21:22] <valorie> you are IRCing fron a bar?
[21:22] <clivejo> nope
[21:23] <valorie> then I don't understand "great bar an S2 going crazy"
[21:23] <clivejo> trying to fix a Samsung Galaxy S2 that decided to go crazy
[21:23] <rww> s/bar/except for/
[21:23] <rww> does that help :3
[21:27] <sgclark> an S2 that is old?!?!
[21:27] <clivejo> yes
[21:27] <clivejo> I put CM13 on it and gave it to my mother
[21:27] <clivejo> two nights ago it had some kind of mental breakdown
[21:29] <valorie> ah, I give phone stuff to my "linux son" Thomas
[21:36] <clivejo> thats a bit of a mouth full
[21:37] <clivejo> I think Id go for just Tom :P
[21:48] <valorie> he was Tommy growing up, and wanted to go by Thomas when he got older
[21:48] <valorie> so I sort of go between the two
[21:48] <valorie> in general, I call people what they want to be called
[21:50] <clivejo> this phone has been through a format and a wipe
[21:50] <clivejo> yet it still have thumbs of peoples faces in .face
[21:51] <clivejo> thats crazy
[21:52] <clivejo> nearly 1Gb of them!
[21:55] <valorie> this is how they keep the crapware on phones, I would guess
[21:56] <clivejo> I installed a custom ROM
[21:56] <clivejo> but that really should have been deleted after a factory reset
[21:57] <clivejo> its amazing how much data can be recovered from a phone you think is wiped
[22:33] <soee> hi valorie, sorry for late response - my health is so bad today :/ i spent whole day i bed
[22:33] <soee> valorie: could you review wiki page with clivejo profile ?
[22:33] <valorie> oh gosh, get well soon soee
[22:33] <valorie> I'll look at it again, sure
[22:34] <soee> thank you
[22:34] <valorie> when you are going for membership?
[22:34] <valorie> soon I hope?
[22:34] <soee> clivejo: ^
[22:34] <clivejo> soee: I asked you to testify!
[22:35] <soee> i did, bt i trust valorie more than me when it comes to English :D
[22:35] <clivejo> I mean write a statement at the bottom
[22:35] <clivejo> saying how great you think I am :P
[22:36] <valorie> soee: you just login to the wiki, and then edit the page
[22:36] <clivejo> oh BTW valorie your signature is wrong
[22:36] <clivejo> needs to be  @SIG@
[22:36] <valorie> write what you want, sign it with @SIG@ and then preview before saving
[22:36] <soee> ahh.. i'll do it tomorrow i'm going to get some sleep now :(
[22:37] <valorie> yeah, I couldn't remember how to do that
[22:37]  * clivejo gives soee a dirty look
[22:37] <soee> cu tomorrow
[22:37] <clivejo> soee: you got man flu?
[22:45] <valorie> fixed it
[22:45] <clivejo> :)
[22:45] <valorie> I'll add the @SIG@ bit to our membership page, since it does not come up when searching for it with google (I did try)
[22:50] <clivejo> valorie: would you fix LP please??
[22:50] <valorie> heh
[22:50] <valorie> wgrant: any progress on relieving poor LP's constipation problem?
[22:51]  * valorie is willing to contribute Ex-Lax
[22:51] <clivejo> I wanted to do some work on apps 15.12.1
[22:54] <valorie> clivejo: I assume you can continue to package, even though there is a delay in publishing?
[22:55] <clivejo> not really, I like to make sure they a building properly
[22:56] <wgrant> valorie, clivejo: Sorry, was asleep. It should be catching up now. A collection of very popular and large package upadtes had millions of machines DoSing it.
[22:56] <wgrant> Let me see how close to caught up it is.
[22:57] <valorie> weeeee
[22:57] <wgrant> I hate libreoffice.
[22:57] <valorie> I would, but it helped move me from Win > Lin back in the day when it was Oo.o
[23:06] <clivejo> stupid boot loops