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TheMusoHey hikiko.06:16
* TheMuso -> EOD && EOW06:16
pittiGood morning06:18
hikikohello TheMuso pitti :)06:20
didrockspitti: morning! see what your announcement was translated into: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-be-fully-in-sync-with-the-debian-repositories-500309.shtml :)07:16
pitti" that the Ubuntu repos might be fully in sync with the Debian ones"  .. le QUOI ??07:17
pittiyeah, let's drop ubuntu, and all use Debian :)07:18
pittiinteresting how "there's some hope ☺ " translates into "yes, we plan"07:19
didrocksheh, indeed! :)07:19
desrthello people08:07
desrtand good morning08:07
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didrockshey desrt08:09
desrthappy friday, didrocks :)08:10
didrockshappy friday desrt!08:10
hikikoHappy Friday didrocks desrt!08:15
didrocksgood morning hikiko08:16
willcookeg'mornin Laney.09:04
willcookeNice and sunny here this morning09:04
Laneyhey willcooke, happy friday09:05
Laneyit is quite cloudy here09:05
Laneyif I were still in primary school I would hold one of those 1/8 things up to the sky09:05
Laneyand I would say that it is 7/8 cloudy09:06
Sweet5hark1moin all!09:06
Laneyhey Sweet5hark109:07
Laneycool nickname09:07
didrocksmorning Laney, willcooke and Sweet5hark1!09:08
* Sweet5hark1 checks: yep, its Friday.09:08
Sweet5hark1so were do I see xenial autopkgtests on jenkins? Using the search on the web interface I find them for all series, except for xenial ...09:09
Laneythere is no jenkins09:11
Laneywhat are you looking for?09:11
LaneySweet5hark1: I would guess you want http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com09:14
* Laney just discovered by accident that you can vim a url09:24
Sweet5hark1Laney: thx alot, thats indeed what I was looking for.09:27
seb128Sweet5hark1, you also have the logs from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html09:28
seb128if that's what you are looking for?09:28
seb128Sweet5hark1, the issues seem to be "No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb'."?09:30
Sweet5hark1seb128: yeah, except that that test runs just fine here. so something weird about the test env ...09:36
seb128Sweet5hark1, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test09:38
seb128you can try locally with qemu or lxc09:38
Sweet5hark1seb128: yah -- the running a qemu inside a VirtualBox kind of matroschka puppet games where something I tried to avoid ...09:40
seb128try with lxc?09:41
Sweet5hark1seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb1.8.0/ <- hmmm, could this upload 22 hours ago have broken it09:41
seb128I guess it could...09:42
Sweet5hark1libreoffice hsqldb is using 1.8 (we are pretty much the only ones using it)09:42
Laneywhy inside vbox?09:43
Laneyand hi seb128!09:43
seb128hey Laney09:43
Laneywhat's up09:44
seb128started the day with laptop issues (again)09:45
seb128which turned out to be kernel issues for a change...09:45
seb128no bluetooth with the current kernel09:46
seb128and video lockups09:46
Laneyreminds me to try -nvidia again09:46
seb128but it's friday!09:46
seb128what about you?09:46
* Laney is good09:46
Laneywe are having pancakes tonight09:46
seb128nice ;-)09:46
Laneyand I am going to make candied bacon as an experiment09:46
Laneylast night we went to see a play about undercover policing which was based on real cases09:47
* Laney grr09:47
seb128grr about?09:48
* seb128 played tennis yesterday evening, perfect weather ;-)09:48
seb128just learnt what candied bacon is09:48
seb128I'm curious now, let us know if it's any good :-)09:48
Laneydon't think I have had it before09:49
Laneywill do!09:49
larsumorning! (sorry, dentist appointment took longer than expected)09:55
seb128good morning larsu!09:56
larsuhey seb128! How are you?09:56
seb128good! you?09:56
larsugood, other than that I can't feel my tongue09:56
Laneyhope it's still there10:01
Laneyand not on its way to an exotic restaurant10:01
larsuthink so10:01
Laneythe illicit tongue trade is big10:02
larsuuh oh10:02
* larsu thought he trusted his dentist...10:02
Sweet5hark1"dget $URL" on xenial doesnt download anything, but instead writes "dget $URL will download something"10:06
Sweet5hark1ah, ignore me. Im stupid as usual.10:06
larsuSweet5hark1: don't be too hard on yourself. It's Friday!10:07
Sweet5hark1larsu: Id troll myself instead, but aint nobody got time for that!10:08
Laneyseb128: can you comment on  https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubiquity/webkit2/+merge/282467 that it worked for you maybe?10:14
* Laney wants to go ping10:14
Laneythanks for fixing that icon thing!10:15
seb128yw, sorry for screwing it up!10:15
seb128and thanks for catching the error :-)10:15
willcookeTrevinho, seb128 - we said we'd see what the state of play is with CSD today and decide if we need to change priorities to get it in.  How's that coming?10:15
seb128Laney, done10:16
seb128de rien10:16
seb128Laney, it feels a bit weird to have manifest updates in the webkit commit though, but I let you sort out that with cyphermox or whoever is going to ack the changes10:17
Laneysomething did that automatically10:17
seb128also bonus point to whoever wraps the (build-)depends :p10:18
willcookemorning andyrock10:24
seb128hey andyrock10:25
seb128willcooke, I don't know what's the status about CSD, waiting for Trevinho10:25
willcookeseb128, ack, was more of "cc" :)10:25
seb128yeah, I figured out I would reply something still ;-)10:25
willcooke:) thanks seb12810:26
willcookeoh look!  it's Sweet5hark1:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNG6bVZPzw10:26
Laneytalking about building libreoffice i hope10:26
willcookevia Alberto Ruiz on G+10:26
Sweet5hark1Laney: yeah. If -- on rare occasions -- I have to talk about different things than LibreOffice, I stutter and stumble even more ..10:29
LaneyI mean *building* rather than running :P10:30
Sweet5hark1Laney: in that talk more about extending, controlling and scripting libreoffice -- neither building nor running ;)10:31
seb128libreoffice-l10n (1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4 to 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)10:33
seb128autopkgtest for libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1: s390x: Regression ♻10:33
seb128 10:34
seb128is it going to autoretry with libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu2?10:34
seb128and if I click retry, what version is it going to pick? the same or the current one?10:34
Sweet5hark1seb128: hmm, isnt that nonsense anyway? pitti pinged me that s390x autopkgtests already broken with 5.0....ubuntu8 for unfanthomable reasons.10:44
Sweet5hark1so shouldnt be regression?10:44
Sweet5hark1s/regression/a regression/10:45
pittiit's still a regression, just not a regression of 5.110:52
pittibut from the previous upload10:52
Sweet5hark1seb128: so -- the autopkgtest didnt fail when running from a normal desktop (just rechecked that), it also doesnt fail when just updating the libhsqldb1.8.0. so your sync likely is innocent.10:57
Sweet5hark1seb128: no updating all the rest in xenial and see if that breaks it (including such interesting packages as jre and gcc)10:58
Sweet5hark1seb128: planning to get step-by-step to xenial-proposed as in the test env to see where it breaks (because I suspect this is again a "something was updated under libreoffice between build and test run" b0rkage)11:00
Sweet5hark1if I arrive at xenial-propsed up-to-date and it still doesnt fail, I will recheck in the test-env if that still fail. If so --- meh, thats gotta be fun.11:01
* Laney has made a way too strong coffee11:25
* Laney 's face turns inside out11:25
* willcooke shakes his fist at the HR system11:45
* Sweet5hark1 hands willcooke a fork and a torch.11:47
* willcooke burns the HR system. Starting with its face11:47
didrocksthat's how you get angry comments :-)11:54
Laneyhe's trying to find the give laney all the money button11:55
Laneyhey didrocks ;-)11:55
didrockslarsu: that's my answer to the last 3 hours "hey" :)11:57
* Sweet5hark1 is confused again: Im having "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed main restricted" in my /etc/apt/sources.list but Im getting "libreoffice is already at the newest version (1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)" -- why?12:11
Sweet5hark1while "apt install libreoffice-writer" libreoffice-writer gives me a ...ubuntu2.12:13
Laneythe binary package "libreoffice" is in universe12:13
Sweet5hark1Laney: arrgh, right.12:14
Sweet5hark1Laney: They serve me tea and know my first name in this trap, because Im dropping by so often.12:15
Trevinhowillcooke: oh, I missed your ping before... There's some gtk "hacking" missing, as unity with hikiko stuff should be enough.12:17
willcookeTrevinho, oki, any eta on that?  Do we need to prioritise it above other things?12:17
Trevinhoit shouldn't be anything that FF would block imho.12:18
willcookeTrevinho, probably not, but if we have issues we need time to fix.  So we should make a start sooner rather than later I think, just to be sure.  What do you think?12:19
Trevinhoyeah, sure12:19
willcookeTrevinho, I think finish the reviews and then let's look at csd early next week?12:20
Sweet5hark1hmm, still cant repro that autotest failure -- need to look at adt-run foo ...12:49
Sweet5hark1but this means this is just a false positive FWIW.12:49
* Laney uploads a wk2 without universe BDs12:51
Laneyah crap12:52
LaneyGet:332 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpxxv4-4 amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [10.2 kB]12:52
LaneyGet:333 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpv4-dev amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [297 kB]12:52
Laneynow what is that12:52
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ricotzhello desktopers13:10
ricotzseb128, hi, what happened with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/1.3.3-1ubuntu113:10
seb128ricotz, hey! you mean?13:11
seb128it's depwaiting on a MIR13:11
seb128you can click on any of the build to see that13:11
seb128" Missing build dependencies: fonttools "13:11
ricotzseb128, that us what I mean13:11
ricotzseb128, "happened" was meant like "any progress on"13:12
seb128ricotz, the MIR is public, I don't have more info that what is in there13:17
seb128it looks like it's blocked on some team wanted to take ownership for fonttools13:17
ricotzseb128, ah, didnt see the MIR bug13:20
seb128ricotz, is the graphite update blocking something?13:23
ricotzseb128, noticed it is still horribly outdated and upstream libreoffice 5.1 is using 1.3.513:25
seb128it's not using the system version?13:28
ricotzseb128, of course it is using the ubuntu version 1.2.4, but upstream is testing against/using 1.3.513:30
seb128is 1.3 a stable serie?13:30
Laneyseb128: what do you think about promoting webkit2gtk source so that it gets the main version of libgmp-dev?13:30
LaneyI could block it in proposed13:30
Laneyuntil everything is uploaded13:30
Laney(so we don't get two webkits on the cd)13:31
ricotzseb128, I would assume so13:31
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seb128Laney, we have 2 sources building the same binary? or how does that work?13:32
ricotzseb128, https://github.com/silnrsi/graphite/releases13:32
Laneysome indirect thing gets it, otherwise could fix webkit to use the other one13:32
seb128Laney, I'm happy to pre-promote it if we are going to go with the migration13:33
LaneyI guess won't be able to upload any actual things until next week after wk2 itself builds though13:33
Laneyoh no, new -dev packages, could do13:34
seb128I'm unsure to follow13:35
seb128you mean it needs a source change/rebuild for the libgmp thing?13:35
seb128or promote and no change rebuild?13:35
LaneyI need to rebuild it to use geoclue 113:35
Laneybut if that happens in universe it will get an extra universe dep on gmp13:36
Laneyso needs to rebuild in main13:36
seb128I see13:37
Laneyfor now you could just promote the source13:37
Laneybut if you do binaries too then I can do some other uploads straight away13:37
Laneyup to you13:37
Laneythere would be a component-mismatch until the rebuilds get published though of course13:38
seb128Laney, ok, let me look at the binaries, we might as well do that13:40
seb128Laney, btw did we get any feedback from the security team? I guess they are happy in any case to swap a webkit for a more recent one?13:41
Laneyyeah I think that was okay13:41
Laneythey have some note to not support webkit anyway ...13:41
Laneymight be better now that they are trying to do CVEs13:42
Laneycf a recent blog from mcatanzaro13:42
seb128reminds me I wanted to comment on this blog post13:44
mdeslauryes, please swap for webkit213:44
seb128"provides security support only to software in the main repository"13:44
seb128is inaccurate13:44
Laneymdeslaur: happening now-ish13:45
Laneywell, after lunch when the source has published in main at least13:45
* Laney biab13:45
mdeslaurLaney: is there anything left in main that requires old webkit?13:45
seb128Laney, enjoy lunch!13:45
seb128should be in there once you are back13:45
Laneymdeslaur: won't be once we've finished, that is the goal13:45
seb128mdeslaur, not once Laney is done13:45
Laneyit's annoying for us to have to patch things back to use an old API too13:46
Laneyand stupid13:46
Laneyso makes sense from all sides13:46
mdeslaurhopefully we'll actually be able to update it once and a while since that blog post seems to indicate they are trying to maintain a stable api13:47
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Sweet5hark1fscking great, adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud ran for half a day and then aborts with some error ...14:17
Sweet5hark1ich kann so nicht arbeiten14:17
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pittiSweet5hark1: what did it fail on?14:31
pittiI can show you a trick to use a local pre-downloaded image14:32
pittihalf a day?? I thought you have this 10.000 Mbit/s connection (it should take some 5 mins, even on my petty 10 MBit DSL)14:32
seb128pitti, just for info, my "system doesn't reboot" was due to powerd (that job really doesn't play along nicely with desktops)14:44
seb128I wonder who would review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/powerd/start-with-android-only/+merge/26395114:45
Sweet5hark1pitti: it was complaining about some plymouth plugin foo failing.14:50
Sweet5hark1pitti: restated now, lets see how it goes.14:51
seb128yeah, maybe14:51
seb128Laney, btw webkit2gtk is in main with binaries now14:51
Laneyit just published in the last 2 minutes or so14:53
* Laney block14:53
* Laney upload14:53
* Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.015:10
Laneygood job I checked the debdiff15:11
Laneynot sure this block is going to work15:54
willcookeseb128, fyi:  if you find people saying that apps wont open in u8-desktop-session-mir they need to install libpam-cgm16:15
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1535058 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash" [High,In progress]16:15
willcookeI'v got to go to the chemist to collect a prescription for the babies.  bbl16:26
Sweet5hark1pitti: failed again :( http://pastebin.com/gyJdLaQp16:37
seb128willcooke, k, good to know!17:15
seb128Trevinho, if you do changes to the video/application lens please consider bug #150209417:18
ubot5`bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150209417:18
seb128or maybe we should do a landing for that?17:18
willcookeshould it be added to the Trello board, or can it be done along with something else?  i.e. does it need it's own task?17:19
seb128it's a few liners and the bug has patches so it's just a matter to do a landing17:20
willcookeI'm gonna add it anyway I think17:20
seb128trivial one but I guess that's a topic by itself so worth a trello card?17:20
willcookeLive the process, be the process :)17:20
Laneyspeaking of process17:24
Laneyrls-x-incoming is large17:24
seb128Laney, no webkit upload?17:24
Laney12/02 15:10:44  * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.017:24
willcookeLaney, seb128  - lets do a scrub early next week?17:24
seb128yeah, I though you were going to edit debian/control, debuild -S and dput :p17:24
seb128oh ok17:24
Laneyneed to know if it works17:24
seb128full testing round for it , I see ;-)17:24
Laneycan't have a build failure against my name17:25
Laneythat would be SICKENING17:25
seb128especially when reviews are coming17:25
seb128"Laney FAILED"17:25
Laneyi386 worked anyway17:25
Laneygood sign17:25
seb128willcooke, @scrub, wfm17:26
seb128next week things need to land!17:26
seb128g-s should be good, it's in the archive now and not blocked on MIRs17:26
seb128we should probably fix that appstream directory issue before installing it by default though17:27
Laneyjust submitted that17:27
Laneysee what richard says17:27
Laneythis is DoSed by linux-*!17:27
seb128Laney, do you know if anyone is still using that report/following the process?17:28
seb128I've the feeling that not17:28
Laneyyou mean in our team?17:29
seb128I mostly tag the bugs to keep a todolist of things to look before release17:29
seb128no, in any team17:29
Laneydoubt any others17:29
seb128I tagged a few for foundations owned packages17:29
seb128and I don't think they milestoned/untagged either17:30
Laneyit was just for us to track our own work17:30
Laneyas a thing which already exists/works sort of17:30
Laneydon't think it is good as a way to get other teams to look at bugs17:30
seb128well, initially it was a way to flag issues that should look at iirc17:31
seb128like q.a would tag bugs17:31
seb128and teams would regularly review the list and try to drive it to 017:31
seb128either untagging things that are not judged important enough or milestoning those that needed to be tracked17:32
Laneythat bit of it has gone away17:32
Laneyafaik anyway17:32
seb128k, that was my question/feeling as well17:32
Laneyjust something to piggy back on now17:32
Laneytag -> triage -> work/dump17:32
seb128I think the list is still an useful "things we should keep an eye on/try to fix for xenial"17:33
seb128though the CVE spam is annoying17:33
seb128woot, and gnome-calendar fixes for Laney landing as well17:36
seb128Laney, those pancakes are going to be well deserved ;-)17:36
Laneyyum yum17:44
Laneyok, see you later & happy weekend!18:00
* Laney almost timed that perfectly18:00
willcookenight Laney18:04
willcookeurgh.  3 poorly children, time for me to go and help.18:13
willcookeHave a good weekend all18:13
seb128have a good w.e!18:17

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