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hikiko | hi | 06:01 |
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TheMuso | Hey hikiko. | 06:16 |
* TheMuso -> EOD && EOW | 06:16 | |
pitti | Good morning | 06:18 |
hikiko | hello TheMuso pitti :) | 06:20 |
didrocks | pitti: morning! see what your announcement was translated into: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-be-fully-in-sync-with-the-debian-repositories-500309.shtml :) | 07:16 |
pitti | " that the Ubuntu repos might be fully in sync with the Debian ones" .. le QUOI ?? | 07:17 |
pitti | yeah, let's drop ubuntu, and all use Debian :) | 07:18 |
pitti | interesting how "there's some hope ☺ " translates into "yes, we plan" | 07:19 |
didrocks | heh, indeed! :) | 07:19 |
desrt | hello people | 08:07 |
desrt | and good morning | 08:07 |
=== ljp is now known as lpotter | ||
didrocks | hey desrt | 08:09 |
desrt | happy friday, didrocks :) | 08:10 |
didrocks | happy friday desrt! | 08:10 |
hikiko | Happy Friday didrocks desrt! | 08:15 |
didrocks | good morning hikiko | 08:16 |
Laney | ahoy | 09:03 |
willcooke | g'mornin Laney. | 09:04 |
willcooke | Nice and sunny here this morning | 09:04 |
Laney | hey willcooke, happy friday | 09:05 |
Laney | it is quite cloudy here | 09:05 |
Laney | if I were still in primary school I would hold one of those 1/8 things up to the sky | 09:05 |
Laney | and I would say that it is 7/8 cloudy | 09:06 |
Sweet5hark1 | moin all! | 09:06 |
Laney | hey Sweet5hark1 | 09:07 |
Laney | cool nickname | 09:07 |
didrocks | morning Laney, willcooke and Sweet5hark1! | 09:08 |
* Sweet5hark1 checks: yep, its Friday. | 09:08 | |
Sweet5hark1 | so were do I see xenial autopkgtests on jenkins? Using the search on the web interface I find them for all series, except for xenial ... | 09:09 |
Laney | there is no jenkins | 09:11 |
Laney | what are you looking for? | 09:11 |
Laney | Sweet5hark1: I would guess you want http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com | 09:14 |
* Laney just discovered by accident that you can vim a url | 09:24 | |
Sweet5hark1 | Laney: thx alot, thats indeed what I was looking for. | 09:27 |
seb128 | Sweet5hark1, you also have the logs from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html | 09:28 |
seb128 | if that's what you are looking for? | 09:28 |
seb128 | Sweet5hark1, the issues seem to be "No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb'."? | 09:30 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: yeah, except that that test runs just fine here. so something weird about the test env ... | 09:36 |
seb128 | Sweet5hark1, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test | 09:38 |
seb128 | you can try locally with qemu or lxc | 09:38 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: yah -- the running a qemu inside a VirtualBox kind of matroschka puppet games where something I tried to avoid ... | 09:40 |
seb128 | try with lxc? | 09:41 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb1.8.0/1.8.0.10+dfsg-5ubuntu1 <- hmmm, could this upload 22 hours ago have broken it | 09:41 |
seb128 | I guess it could... | 09:42 |
Sweet5hark1 | libreoffice hsqldb is using 1.8 (we are pretty much the only ones using it) | 09:42 |
Laney | why inside vbox? | 09:43 |
Laney | and hi seb128! | 09:43 |
seb128 | hey Laney | 09:43 |
Laney | what's up | 09:44 |
seb128 | started the day with laptop issues (again) | 09:45 |
seb128 | which turned out to be kernel issues for a change... | 09:45 |
Laney | :/ | 09:46 |
seb128 | no bluetooth with the current kernel | 09:46 |
seb128 | and video lockups | 09:46 |
Laney | reminds me to try -nvidia again | 09:46 |
seb128 | but it's friday! | 09:46 |
seb128 | what about you? | 09:46 |
* Laney is good | 09:46 | |
Laney | we are having pancakes tonight | 09:46 |
seb128 | nice ;-) | 09:46 |
Laney | and I am going to make candied bacon as an experiment | 09:46 |
Laney | last night we went to see a play about undercover policing which was based on real cases | 09:47 |
* Laney grr | 09:47 | |
seb128 | grr about? | 09:48 |
* seb128 played tennis yesterday evening, perfect weather ;-) | 09:48 | |
seb128 | just learnt what candied bacon is | 09:48 |
seb128 | I'm curious now, let us know if it's any good :-) | 09:48 |
Laney | don't think I have had it before | 09:49 |
Laney | will do! | 09:49 |
larsu | morning! (sorry, dentist appointment took longer than expected) | 09:55 |
seb128 | good morning larsu! | 09:56 |
larsu | hey seb128! How are you? | 09:56 |
seb128 | good! you? | 09:56 |
larsu | good, other than that I can't feel my tongue | 09:56 |
Laney | hope it's still there | 10:01 |
Laney | and not on its way to an exotic restaurant | 10:01 |
larsu | think so | 10:01 |
Laney | the illicit tongue trade is big | 10:02 |
larsu | uh oh | 10:02 |
* larsu thought he trusted his dentist... | 10:02 | |
Sweet5hark1 | "dget $URL" on xenial doesnt download anything, but instead writes "dget $URL will download something" | 10:06 |
Sweet5hark1 | *gumble* | 10:06 |
Sweet5hark1 | ah, ignore me. Im stupid as usual. | 10:06 |
larsu | Sweet5hark1: don't be too hard on yourself. It's Friday! | 10:07 |
Sweet5hark1 | larsu: Id troll myself instead, but aint nobody got time for that! | 10:08 |
larsu | hah | 10:08 |
Laney | seb128: can you comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubiquity/webkit2/+merge/282467 that it worked for you maybe? | 10:14 |
* Laney wants to go ping | 10:14 | |
Laney | thanks for fixing that icon thing! | 10:15 |
seb128 | yw, sorry for screwing it up! | 10:15 |
seb128 | and thanks for catching the error :-) | 10:15 |
willcooke | Trevinho, seb128 - we said we'd see what the state of play is with CSD today and decide if we need to change priorities to get it in. How's that coming? | 10:15 |
seb128 | Laney, done | 10:16 |
Laney | merci | 10:16 |
seb128 | de rien | 10:16 |
seb128 | Laney, it feels a bit weird to have manifest updates in the webkit commit though, but I let you sort out that with cyphermox or whoever is going to ack the changes | 10:17 |
Laney | something did that automatically | 10:17 |
seb128 | also bonus point to whoever wraps the (build-)depends :p | 10:18 |
andyrock | morning | 10:24 |
willcooke | morning andyrock | 10:24 |
seb128 | hey andyrock | 10:25 |
seb128 | willcooke, I don't know what's the status about CSD, waiting for Trevinho | 10:25 |
willcooke | seb128, ack, was more of "cc" :) | 10:25 |
seb128 | yeah, I figured out I would reply something still ;-) | 10:25 |
willcooke | :) thanks seb128 | 10:26 |
willcooke | oh look! it's Sweet5hark1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNG6bVZPzw | 10:26 |
seb128 | indeed! | 10:26 |
Laney | talking about building libreoffice i hope | 10:26 |
willcooke | via Alberto Ruiz on G+ | 10:26 |
Sweet5hark1 | Laney: yeah. If -- on rare occasions -- I have to talk about different things than LibreOffice, I stutter and stumble even more .. | 10:29 |
Laney | I mean *building* rather than running :P | 10:30 |
Sweet5hark1 | Laney: in that talk more about extending, controlling and scripting libreoffice -- neither building nor running ;) | 10:31 |
seb128 | hum | 10:33 |
seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html | 10:33 |
seb128 | libreoffice-l10n (1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4 to 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1) | 10:33 |
seb128 | autopkgtest for libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1: s390x: Regression ♻ | 10:33 |
seb128 | 10:34 | |
seb128 | is it going to autoretry with libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu2? | 10:34 |
seb128 | and if I click retry, what version is it going to pick? the same or the current one? | 10:34 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: hmm, isnt that nonsense anyway? pitti pinged me that s390x autopkgtests already broken with 5.0....ubuntu8 for unfanthomable reasons. | 10:44 |
Sweet5hark1 | so shouldnt be regression? | 10:44 |
Sweet5hark1 | s/regression/a regression/ | 10:45 |
pitti | it's still a regression, just not a regression of 5.1 | 10:52 |
pitti | but from the previous upload | 10:52 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: so -- the autopkgtest didnt fail when running from a normal desktop (just rechecked that), it also doesnt fail when just updating the libhsqldb1.8.0. so your sync likely is innocent. | 10:57 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: no updating all the rest in xenial and see if that breaks it (including such interesting packages as jre and gcc) | 10:58 |
Sweet5hark1 | seb128: planning to get step-by-step to xenial-proposed as in the test env to see where it breaks (because I suspect this is again a "something was updated under libreoffice between build and test run" b0rkage) | 11:00 |
Sweet5hark1 | if I arrive at xenial-propsed up-to-date and it still doesnt fail, I will recheck in the test-env if that still fail. If so --- meh, thats gotta be fun. | 11:01 |
* Laney has made a way too strong coffee | 11:25 | |
* Laney 's face turns inside out | 11:25 | |
* willcooke shakes his fist at the HR system | 11:45 | |
* Sweet5hark1 hands willcooke a fork and a torch. | 11:47 | |
* willcooke burns the HR system. Starting with its face | 11:47 | |
didrocks | that's how you get angry comments :-) | 11:54 |
Laney | he's trying to find the give laney all the money button | 11:55 |
Laney | hey didrocks ;-) | 11:55 |
larsu | haha | 11:55 |
didrocks | larsu: that's my answer to the last 3 hours "hey" :) | 11:57 |
Sweet5hark1 | lol | 11:57 |
larsu | hehe | 11:58 |
Laney | https://twitter.com/tp_muller/status/698083554962575360 | 12:09 |
* Sweet5hark1 is confused again: Im having "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed main restricted" in my /etc/apt/sources.list but Im getting "libreoffice is already at the newest version (1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)" -- why? | 12:11 | |
Sweet5hark1 | while "apt install libreoffice-writer" libreoffice-writer gives me a ...ubuntu2. | 12:13 |
Laney | the binary package "libreoffice" is in universe | 12:13 |
Sweet5hark1 | Laney: arrgh, right. | 12:14 |
Sweet5hark1 | Laney: They serve me tea and know my first name in this trap, because Im dropping by so often. | 12:15 |
Trevinho | willcooke: oh, I missed your ping before... There's some gtk "hacking" missing, as unity with hikiko stuff should be enough. | 12:17 |
willcooke | Trevinho, oki, any eta on that? Do we need to prioritise it above other things? | 12:17 |
Trevinho | it shouldn't be anything that FF would block imho. | 12:18 |
willcooke | Trevinho, probably not, but if we have issues we need time to fix. So we should make a start sooner rather than later I think, just to be sure. What do you think? | 12:19 |
Trevinho | yeah, sure | 12:19 |
willcooke | Trevinho, I think finish the reviews and then let's look at csd early next week? | 12:20 |
Trevinho | ok | 12:20 |
Sweet5hark1 | hmm, still cant repro that autotest failure -- need to look at adt-run foo ... | 12:49 |
Sweet5hark1 | but this means this is just a false positive FWIW. | 12:49 |
seb128 | :-/ | 12:50 |
* Laney uploads a wk2 without universe BDs | 12:51 | |
Laney | ah crap | 12:52 |
Laney | Get:332 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpxxv4-4 amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [10.2 kB] | 12:52 |
Laney | Get:333 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpv4-dev amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [297 kB] | 12:52 |
Laney | now what is that | 12:52 |
=== alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
ricotz | hello desktopers | 13:10 |
ricotz | seb128, hi, what happened with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/1.3.3-1ubuntu1 | 13:10 |
seb128 | ricotz, hey! you mean? | 13:11 |
seb128 | it's depwaiting on a MIR | 13:11 |
seb128 | you can click on any of the build to see that | 13:11 |
seb128 | " Missing build dependencies: fonttools " | 13:11 |
ricotz | seb128, that us what I mean | 13:11 |
ricotz | us/is | 13:11 |
ricotz | seb128, "happened" was meant like "any progress on" | 13:12 |
seb128 | ricotz, the MIR is public, I don't have more info that what is in there | 13:17 |
seb128 | it looks like it's blocked on some team wanted to take ownership for fonttools | 13:17 |
ricotz | seb128, ah, didnt see the MIR bug | 13:20 |
seb128 | ricotz, is the graphite update blocking something? | 13:23 |
ricotz | seb128, noticed it is still horribly outdated and upstream libreoffice 5.1 is using 1.3.5 | 13:25 |
seb128 | it's not using the system version? | 13:28 |
ricotz | seb128, of course it is using the ubuntu version 1.2.4, but upstream is testing against/using 1.3.5 | 13:30 |
seb128 | is 1.3 a stable serie? | 13:30 |
Laney | seb128: what do you think about promoting webkit2gtk source so that it gets the main version of libgmp-dev? | 13:30 |
Laney | I could block it in proposed | 13:30 |
Laney | until everything is uploaded | 13:30 |
Laney | (so we don't get two webkits on the cd) | 13:31 |
ricotz | seb128, I would assume so | 13:31 |
=== hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln | ||
seb128 | Laney, we have 2 sources building the same binary? or how does that work? | 13:32 |
Laney | Provides | 13:32 |
ricotz | seb128, https://github.com/silnrsi/graphite/releases | 13:32 |
Laney | some indirect thing gets it, otherwise could fix webkit to use the other one | 13:32 |
seb128 | Laney, I'm happy to pre-promote it if we are going to go with the migration | 13:33 |
Laney | cool | 13:33 |
Laney | I guess won't be able to upload any actual things until next week after wk2 itself builds though | 13:33 |
Laney | oh no, new -dev packages, could do | 13:34 |
seb128 | I'm unsure to follow | 13:35 |
seb128 | you mean it needs a source change/rebuild for the libgmp thing? | 13:35 |
seb128 | or promote and no change rebuild? | 13:35 |
Laney | I need to rebuild it to use geoclue 1 | 13:35 |
Laney | but if that happens in universe it will get an extra universe dep on gmp | 13:36 |
Laney | so needs to rebuild in main | 13:36 |
seb128 | I see | 13:37 |
Laney | for now you could just promote the source | 13:37 |
Laney | but if you do binaries too then I can do some other uploads straight away | 13:37 |
Laney | up to you | 13:37 |
Laney | there would be a component-mismatch until the rebuilds get published though of course | 13:38 |
seb128 | Laney, ok, let me look at the binaries, we might as well do that | 13:40 |
Laney | thx | 13:41 |
seb128 | Laney, btw did we get any feedback from the security team? I guess they are happy in any case to swap a webkit for a more recent one? | 13:41 |
Laney | yeah I think that was okay | 13:41 |
Laney | they have some note to not support webkit anyway ... | 13:41 |
seb128 | :-/ | 13:42 |
Laney | might be better now that they are trying to do CVEs | 13:42 |
Laney | cf a recent blog from mcatanzaro | 13:42 |
seb128 | yeah | 13:43 |
seb128 | reminds me I wanted to comment on this blog post | 13:44 |
mdeslaur | yes, please swap for webkit2 | 13:44 |
seb128 | "provides security support only to software in the main repository" | 13:44 |
seb128 | is inaccurate | 13:44 |
Laney | mdeslaur: happening now-ish | 13:45 |
mdeslaur | \o/ | 13:45 |
Laney | well, after lunch when the source has published in main at least | 13:45 |
* Laney biab | 13:45 | |
mdeslaur | Laney: is there anything left in main that requires old webkit? | 13:45 |
seb128 | Laney, enjoy lunch! | 13:45 |
seb128 | should be in there once you are back | 13:45 |
Laney | mdeslaur: won't be once we've finished, that is the goal | 13:45 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, not once Laney is done | 13:45 |
mdeslaur | awesome | 13:45 |
mdeslaur | thanks! | 13:46 |
seb128 | yw! | 13:46 |
Laney | it's annoying for us to have to patch things back to use an old API too | 13:46 |
Laney | and stupid | 13:46 |
Laney | so makes sense from all sides | 13:46 |
mdeslaur | hopefully we'll actually be able to update it once and a while since that blog post seems to indicate they are trying to maintain a stable api | 13:47 |
seb128 | yeah | 13:48 |
=== hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
Sweet5hark1 | fscking great, adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud ran for half a day and then aborts with some error ... | 14:17 |
Sweet5hark1 | ich kann so nicht arbeiten | 14:17 |
=== alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
pitti | Sweet5hark1: what did it fail on? | 14:31 |
pitti | I can show you a trick to use a local pre-downloaded image | 14:32 |
pitti | half a day?? I thought you have this 10.000 Mbit/s connection (it should take some 5 mins, even on my petty 10 MBit DSL) | 14:32 |
seb128 | pitti, just for info, my "system doesn't reboot" was due to powerd (that job really doesn't play along nicely with desktops) | 14:44 |
seb128 | I wonder who would review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/powerd/start-with-android-only/+merge/263951 | 14:45 |
Laney | tvoss? | 14:49 |
Sweet5hark1 | pitti: it was complaining about some plymouth plugin foo failing. | 14:50 |
Sweet5hark1 | pitti: restated now, lets see how it goes. | 14:51 |
seb128 | yeah, maybe | 14:51 |
seb128 | Laney, btw webkit2gtk is in main with binaries now | 14:51 |
Laney | thanks! | 14:53 |
Laney | it just published in the last 2 minutes or so | 14:53 |
* Laney block | 14:53 | |
* Laney upload | 14:53 | |
* Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0 | 15:10 | |
Laney | good job I checked the debdiff | 15:11 |
Laney | not sure this block is going to work | 15:54 |
willcooke | seb128, fyi: if you find people saying that apps wont open in u8-desktop-session-mir they need to install libpam-cgm | 16:15 |
willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgmanager/+bug/1535058 | 16:15 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1535058 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash" [High,In progress] | 16:15 |
willcooke | I'v got to go to the chemist to collect a prescription for the babies. bbl | 16:26 |
Sweet5hark1 | pitti: failed again :( http://pastebin.com/gyJdLaQp | 16:37 |
seb128 | willcooke, k, good to know! | 17:15 |
willcooke | back | 17:18 |
seb128 | Trevinho, if you do changes to the video/application lens please consider bug #1502094 | 17:18 |
ubot5` | bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502094 | 17:18 |
seb128 | or maybe we should do a landing for that? | 17:18 |
willcooke | should it be added to the Trello board, or can it be done along with something else? i.e. does it need it's own task? | 17:19 |
seb128 | it's a few liners and the bug has patches so it's just a matter to do a landing | 17:20 |
willcooke | I'm gonna add it anyway I think | 17:20 |
seb128 | trivial one but I guess that's a topic by itself so worth a trello card? | 17:20 |
seb128 | thanks | 17:20 |
willcooke | Live the process, be the process :) | 17:20 |
seb128 | :-) | 17:24 |
Laney | speaking of process | 17:24 |
Laney | rls-x-incoming is large | 17:24 |
seb128 | Laney, no webkit upload? | 17:24 |
Laney | 12/02 15:10:44 * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0 | 17:24 |
willcooke | Laney, seb128 - lets do a scrub early next week? | 17:24 |
Laney | https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/arm/+build/9003359 | 17:24 |
seb128 | yeah, I though you were going to edit debian/control, debuild -S and dput :p | 17:24 |
seb128 | oh ok | 17:24 |
Laney | need to know if it works | 17:24 |
seb128 | full testing round for it , I see ;-) | 17:24 |
Laney | can't have a build failure against my name | 17:25 |
Laney | that would be SICKENING | 17:25 |
seb128 | haha | 17:25 |
seb128 | especially when reviews are coming | 17:25 |
seb128 | "Laney FAILED" | 17:25 |
Laney | i386 worked anyway | 17:25 |
Laney | good sign | 17:25 |
seb128 | willcooke, @scrub, wfm | 17:26 |
seb128 | next week things need to land! | 17:26 |
Laney | yeah | 17:26 |
seb128 | g-s should be good, it's in the archive now and not blocked on MIRs | 17:26 |
willcooke | woot | 17:26 |
seb128 | we should probably fix that appstream directory issue before installing it by default though | 17:27 |
Laney | just submitted that | 17:27 |
Laney | see what richard says | 17:27 |
seb128 | great! | 17:27 |
Laney | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 17:27 |
Laney | this is DoSed by linux-*! | 17:27 |
seb128 | Laney, do you know if anyone is still using that report/following the process? | 17:28 |
seb128 | I've the feeling that not | 17:28 |
Laney | you mean in our team? | 17:29 |
seb128 | I mostly tag the bugs to keep a todolist of things to look before release | 17:29 |
seb128 | no, in any team | 17:29 |
Laney | doubt any others | 17:29 |
seb128 | I tagged a few for foundations owned packages | 17:29 |
seb128 | and I don't think they milestoned/untagged either | 17:30 |
Laney | it was just for us to track our own work | 17:30 |
Laney | as a thing which already exists/works sort of | 17:30 |
Laney | don't think it is good as a way to get other teams to look at bugs | 17:30 |
seb128 | well, initially it was a way to flag issues that should look at iirc | 17:31 |
seb128 | like q.a would tag bugs | 17:31 |
seb128 | and teams would regularly review the list and try to drive it to 0 | 17:31 |
seb128 | either untagging things that are not judged important enough or milestoning those that needed to be tracked | 17:32 |
Laney | indeed | 17:32 |
Laney | that bit of it has gone away | 17:32 |
Laney | afaik anyway | 17:32 |
seb128 | k, that was my question/feeling as well | 17:32 |
Laney | just something to piggy back on now | 17:32 |
Laney | tag -> triage -> work/dump | 17:32 |
seb128 | right | 17:32 |
seb128 | I think the list is still an useful "things we should keep an eye on/try to fix for xenial" | 17:33 |
seb128 | though the CVE spam is annoying | 17:33 |
ogra_ | +1 | 17:34 |
seb128 | woot, and gnome-calendar fixes for Laney landing as well | 17:36 |
seb128 | Laney, those pancakes are going to be well deserved ;-) | 17:36 |
Laney | yum yum | 17:44 |
seb128 | :-) | 17:47 |
Laney | ok, see you later & happy weekend! | 18:00 |
* Laney almost timed that perfectly | 18:00 | |
willcooke | night Laney | 18:04 |
willcooke | urgh. 3 poorly children, time for me to go and help. | 18:13 |
willcooke | Have a good weekend all | 18:13 |
seb128 | have a good w.e! | 18:17 |
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