[06:01] <hikiko> hi
[06:16] <TheMuso> Hey hikiko.
[06:16]  * TheMuso -> EOD && EOW
[06:18] <pitti> Good morning
[06:20] <hikiko> hello TheMuso pitti :)
[07:16] <didrocks> pitti: morning! see what your announcement was translated into: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-be-fully-in-sync-with-the-debian-repositories-500309.shtml :)
[07:17] <pitti> " that the Ubuntu repos might be fully in sync with the Debian ones"  .. le QUOI ??
[07:18] <pitti> yeah, let's drop ubuntu, and all use Debian :)
[07:19] <pitti> interesting how "there's some hope ☺ " translates into "yes, we plan"
[07:19] <didrocks> heh, indeed! :)
[08:07] <desrt> hello people
[08:07] <desrt> and good morning
[08:09] <didrocks> hey desrt
[08:10] <desrt> happy friday, didrocks :)
[08:10] <didrocks> happy friday desrt!
[08:15] <hikiko> Happy Friday didrocks desrt!
[08:16] <didrocks> good morning hikiko
[09:03] <Laney> ahoy
[09:04] <willcooke> g'mornin Laney.
[09:04] <willcooke> Nice and sunny here this morning
[09:05] <Laney> hey willcooke, happy friday
[09:05] <Laney> it is quite cloudy here
[09:05] <Laney> if I were still in primary school I would hold one of those 1/8 things up to the sky
[09:06] <Laney> and I would say that it is 7/8 cloudy
[09:06] <Sweet5hark1> moin all!
[09:07] <Laney> hey Sweet5hark1
[09:07] <Laney> cool nickname
[09:08] <didrocks> morning Laney, willcooke and Sweet5hark1!
[09:08]  * Sweet5hark1 checks: yep, its Friday.
[09:09] <Sweet5hark1> so were do I see xenial autopkgtests on jenkins? Using the search on the web interface I find them for all series, except for xenial ...
[09:11] <Laney> there is no jenkins
[09:11] <Laney> what are you looking for?
[09:14] <Laney> Sweet5hark1: I would guess you want http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com
[09:24]  * Laney just discovered by accident that you can vim a url
[09:27] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: thx alot, thats indeed what I was looking for.
[09:28] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, you also have the logs from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[09:28] <seb128> if that's what you are looking for?
[09:30] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, the issues seem to be "No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb'."?
[09:36] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: yeah, except that that test runs just fine here. so something weird about the test env ...
[09:38] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test
[09:38] <seb128> you can try locally with qemu or lxc
[09:40] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: yah -- the running a qemu inside a VirtualBox kind of matroschka puppet games where something I tried to avoid ...
[09:41] <seb128> try with lxc?
[09:41] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb1.8.0/1.8.0.10+dfsg-5ubuntu1 <- hmmm, could this upload 22 hours ago have broken it
[09:42] <seb128> I guess it could...
[09:42] <Sweet5hark1> libreoffice hsqldb is using 1.8 (we are pretty much the only ones using it)
[09:43] <Laney> why inside vbox?
[09:43] <Laney> and hi seb128!
[09:43] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:44] <Laney> what's up
[09:45] <seb128> started the day with laptop issues (again)
[09:45] <seb128> which turned out to be kernel issues for a change...
[09:46] <Laney> :/
[09:46] <seb128> no bluetooth with the current kernel
[09:46] <seb128> and video lockups
[09:46] <Laney> reminds me to try -nvidia again
[09:46] <seb128> but it's friday!
[09:46] <seb128> what about you?
[09:46]  * Laney is good
[09:46] <Laney> we are having pancakes tonight
[09:46] <seb128> nice ;-)
[09:46] <Laney> and I am going to make candied bacon as an experiment
[09:47] <Laney> last night we went to see a play about undercover policing which was based on real cases
[09:47]  * Laney grr
[09:48] <seb128> grr about?
[09:48]  * seb128 played tennis yesterday evening, perfect weather ;-)
[09:48] <seb128> just learnt what candied bacon is
[09:48] <seb128> I'm curious now, let us know if it's any good :-)
[09:49] <Laney> don't think I have had it before
[09:49] <Laney> will do!
[09:55] <larsu> morning! (sorry, dentist appointment took longer than expected)
[09:56] <seb128> good morning larsu!
[09:56] <larsu> hey seb128! How are you?
[09:56] <seb128> good! you?
[09:56] <larsu> good, other than that I can't feel my tongue
[10:01] <Laney> hope it's still there
[10:01] <Laney> and not on its way to an exotic restaurant
[10:01] <larsu> think so
[10:02] <Laney> the illicit tongue trade is big
[10:02] <larsu> uh oh
[10:02]  * larsu thought he trusted his dentist...
[10:06] <Sweet5hark1> "dget $URL" on xenial doesnt download anything, but instead writes "dget $URL will download something"
[10:06] <Sweet5hark1> *gumble*
[10:06] <Sweet5hark1> ah, ignore me. Im stupid as usual.
[10:07] <larsu> Sweet5hark1: don't be too hard on yourself. It's Friday!
[10:08] <Sweet5hark1> larsu: Id troll myself instead, but aint nobody got time for that!
[10:08] <larsu> hah
[10:14] <Laney> seb128: can you comment on  https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubiquity/webkit2/+merge/282467 that it worked for you maybe?
[10:14]  * Laney wants to go ping
[10:15] <Laney> thanks for fixing that icon thing!
[10:15] <seb128> yw, sorry for screwing it up!
[10:15] <seb128> and thanks for catching the error :-)
[10:15] <willcooke> Trevinho, seb128 - we said we'd see what the state of play is with CSD today and decide if we need to change priorities to get it in.  How's that coming?
[10:16] <seb128> Laney, done
[10:16] <Laney> merci
[10:16] <seb128> de rien
[10:17] <seb128> Laney, it feels a bit weird to have manifest updates in the webkit commit though, but I let you sort out that with cyphermox or whoever is going to ack the changes
[10:17] <Laney> something did that automatically
[10:18] <seb128> also bonus point to whoever wraps the (build-)depends :p
[10:24] <andyrock> morning
[10:24] <willcooke> morning andyrock
[10:25] <seb128> hey andyrock
[10:25] <seb128> willcooke, I don't know what's the status about CSD, waiting for Trevinho
[10:25] <willcooke> seb128, ack, was more of "cc" :)
[10:25] <seb128> yeah, I figured out I would reply something still ;-)
[10:26] <willcooke> :) thanks seb128
[10:26] <willcooke> oh look!  it's Sweet5hark1:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNG6bVZPzw
[10:26] <seb128> indeed!
[10:26] <Laney> talking about building libreoffice i hope
[10:26] <willcooke> via Alberto Ruiz on G+
[10:29] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: yeah. If -- on rare occasions -- I have to talk about different things than LibreOffice, I stutter and stumble even more ..
[10:30] <Laney> I mean *building* rather than running :P
[10:31] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: in that talk more about extending, controlling and scripting libreoffice -- neither building nor running ;)
[10:33] <seb128> hum
[10:33] <seb128> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[10:33] <seb128> libreoffice-l10n (1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4 to 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)
[10:33] <seb128> autopkgtest for libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1: s390x: Regression ♻
[10:34] <seb128>  
[10:34] <seb128> is it going to autoretry with libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu2?
[10:34] <seb128> and if I click retry, what version is it going to pick? the same or the current one?
[10:44] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: hmm, isnt that nonsense anyway? pitti pinged me that s390x autopkgtests already broken with 5.0....ubuntu8 for unfanthomable reasons.
[10:44] <Sweet5hark1> so shouldnt be regression?
[10:45] <Sweet5hark1> s/regression/a regression/
[10:52] <pitti> it's still a regression, just not a regression of 5.1
[10:52] <pitti> but from the previous upload
[10:57] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: so -- the autopkgtest didnt fail when running from a normal desktop (just rechecked that), it also doesnt fail when just updating the libhsqldb1.8.0. so your sync likely is innocent.
[10:58] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: no updating all the rest in xenial and see if that breaks it (including such interesting packages as jre and gcc)
[11:00] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: planning to get step-by-step to xenial-proposed as in the test env to see where it breaks (because I suspect this is again a "something was updated under libreoffice between build and test run" b0rkage)
[11:01] <Sweet5hark1> if I arrive at xenial-propsed up-to-date and it still doesnt fail, I will recheck in the test-env if that still fail. If so --- meh, thats gotta be fun.
[11:25]  * Laney has made a way too strong coffee
[11:25]  * Laney 's face turns inside out
[11:45]  * willcooke shakes his fist at the HR system
[11:47]  * Sweet5hark1 hands willcooke a fork and a torch.
[11:47]  * willcooke burns the HR system.  Starting with its face
[11:54] <didrocks> that's how you get angry comments :-)
[11:55] <Laney> he's trying to find the give laney all the money button
[11:55] <Laney> hey didrocks ;-)
[11:55] <larsu> haha
[11:57] <didrocks> larsu: that's my answer to the last 3 hours "hey" :)
[11:57] <Sweet5hark1> lol
[11:58] <larsu> hehe
[12:09] <Laney> https://twitter.com/tp_muller/status/698083554962575360
[12:11]  * Sweet5hark1 is confused again: Im having "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  xenial-proposed main restricted" in my /etc/apt/sources.list but Im getting "libreoffice is already at the newest version (1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)" -- why?
[12:13] <Sweet5hark1> while "apt install libreoffice-writer" libreoffice-writer gives me a ...ubuntu2.
[12:13] <Laney> the binary package "libreoffice" is in universe
[12:14] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: arrgh, right.
[12:15] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: They serve me tea and know my first name in this trap, because Im dropping by so often.
[12:17] <Trevinho> willcooke: oh, I missed your ping before... There's some gtk "hacking" missing, as unity with hikiko stuff should be enough.
[12:17] <willcooke> Trevinho, oki, any eta on that?  Do we need to prioritise it above other things?
[12:18] <Trevinho> it shouldn't be anything that FF would block imho.
[12:19] <willcooke> Trevinho, probably not, but if we have issues we need time to fix.  So we should make a start sooner rather than later I think, just to be sure.  What do you think?
[12:19] <Trevinho> yeah, sure
[12:20] <willcooke> Trevinho, I think finish the reviews and then let's look at csd early next week?
[12:20] <Trevinho> ok
[12:49] <Sweet5hark1> hmm, still cant repro that autotest failure -- need to look at adt-run foo ...
[12:49] <Sweet5hark1> but this means this is just a false positive FWIW.
[12:50] <seb128> :-/
[12:51]  * Laney uploads a wk2 without universe BDs
[12:52] <Laney> ah crap
[12:52] <Laney> Get:332 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpxxv4-4 amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [10.2 kB]
[12:52] <Laney> Get:333 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpv4-dev amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [297 kB]
[12:52] <Laney> now what is that
[13:10] <ricotz> hello desktopers
[13:10] <ricotz> seb128, hi, what happened with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/1.3.3-1ubuntu1
[13:11] <seb128> ricotz, hey! you mean?
[13:11] <seb128> it's depwaiting on a MIR
[13:11] <seb128> you can click on any of the build to see that
[13:11] <seb128> " Missing build dependencies: fonttools "
[13:11] <ricotz> seb128, that us what I mean
[13:11] <ricotz> us/is
[13:12] <ricotz> seb128, "happened" was meant like "any progress on"
[13:17] <seb128> ricotz, the MIR is public, I don't have more info that what is in there
[13:17] <seb128> it looks like it's blocked on some team wanted to take ownership for fonttools
[13:20] <ricotz> seb128, ah, didnt see the MIR bug
[13:23] <seb128> ricotz, is the graphite update blocking something?
[13:25] <ricotz> seb128, noticed it is still horribly outdated and upstream libreoffice 5.1 is using 1.3.5
[13:28] <seb128> it's not using the system version?
[13:30] <ricotz> seb128, of course it is using the ubuntu version 1.2.4, but upstream is testing against/using 1.3.5
[13:30] <seb128> is 1.3 a stable serie?
[13:30] <Laney> seb128: what do you think about promoting webkit2gtk source so that it gets the main version of libgmp-dev?
[13:30] <Laney> I could block it in proposed
[13:30] <Laney> until everything is uploaded
[13:31] <Laney> (so we don't get two webkits on the cd)
[13:31] <ricotz> seb128, I would assume so
[13:32] <seb128> Laney, we have 2 sources building the same binary? or how does that work?
[13:32] <Laney> Provides
[13:32] <ricotz> seb128, https://github.com/silnrsi/graphite/releases
[13:32] <Laney> some indirect thing gets it, otherwise could fix webkit to use the other one
[13:33] <seb128> Laney, I'm happy to pre-promote it if we are going to go with the migration
[13:33] <Laney> cool
[13:33] <Laney> I guess won't be able to upload any actual things until next week after wk2 itself builds though
[13:34] <Laney> oh no, new -dev packages, could do
[13:35] <seb128> I'm unsure to follow
[13:35] <seb128> you mean it needs a source change/rebuild for the libgmp thing?
[13:35] <seb128> or promote and no change rebuild?
[13:35] <Laney> I need to rebuild it to use geoclue 1
[13:36] <Laney> but if that happens in universe it will get an extra universe dep on gmp
[13:36] <Laney> so needs to rebuild in main
[13:37] <seb128> I see
[13:37] <Laney> for now you could just promote the source
[13:37] <Laney> but if you do binaries too then I can do some other uploads straight away
[13:37] <Laney> up to you
[13:38] <Laney> there would be a component-mismatch until the rebuilds get published though of course
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, ok, let me look at the binaries, we might as well do that
[13:41] <Laney> thx
[13:41] <seb128> Laney, btw did we get any feedback from the security team? I guess they are happy in any case to swap a webkit for a more recent one?
[13:41] <Laney> yeah I think that was okay
[13:41] <Laney> they have some note to not support webkit anyway ...
[13:42] <seb128> :-/
[13:42] <Laney> might be better now that they are trying to do CVEs
[13:42] <Laney> cf a recent blog from mcatanzaro
[13:43] <seb128> yeah
[13:44] <seb128> reminds me I wanted to comment on this blog post
[13:44] <mdeslaur> yes, please swap for webkit2
[13:44] <seb128> "provides security support only to software in the main repository"
[13:44] <seb128> is inaccurate
[13:45] <Laney> mdeslaur: happening now-ish
[13:45] <mdeslaur> \o/
[13:45] <Laney> well, after lunch when the source has published in main at least
[13:45]  * Laney biab
[13:45] <mdeslaur> Laney: is there anything left in main that requires old webkit?
[13:45] <seb128> Laney, enjoy lunch!
[13:45] <seb128> should be in there once you are back
[13:45] <Laney> mdeslaur: won't be once we've finished, that is the goal
[13:45] <seb128> mdeslaur, not once Laney is done
[13:45] <mdeslaur> awesome
[13:46] <mdeslaur> thanks!
[13:46] <seb128> yw!
[13:46] <Laney> it's annoying for us to have to patch things back to use an old API too
[13:46] <Laney> and stupid
[13:46] <Laney> so makes sense from all sides
[13:47] <mdeslaur> hopefully we'll actually be able to update it once and a while since that blog post seems to indicate they are trying to maintain a stable api
[13:48] <seb128> yeah
[14:17] <Sweet5hark1> fscking great, adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud ran for half a day and then aborts with some error ...
[14:17] <Sweet5hark1> ich kann so nicht arbeiten
[14:31] <pitti> Sweet5hark1: what did it fail on?
[14:32] <pitti> I can show you a trick to use a local pre-downloaded image
[14:32] <pitti> half a day?? I thought you have this 10.000 Mbit/s connection (it should take some 5 mins, even on my petty 10 MBit DSL)
[14:44] <seb128> pitti, just for info, my "system doesn't reboot" was due to powerd (that job really doesn't play along nicely with desktops)
[14:45] <seb128> I wonder who would review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/powerd/start-with-android-only/+merge/263951
[14:49] <Laney> tvoss?
[14:50] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: it was complaining about some plymouth plugin foo failing.
[14:51] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: restated now, lets see how it goes.
[14:51] <seb128> yeah, maybe
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, btw webkit2gtk is in main with binaries now
[14:53] <Laney> thanks!
[14:53] <Laney> it just published in the last 2 minutes or so
[14:53]  * Laney block
[14:53]  * Laney upload
[15:10]  * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0
[15:11] <Laney> good job I checked the debdiff
[15:54] <Laney> not sure this block is going to work
[16:15] <willcooke> seb128, fyi:  if you find people saying that apps wont open in u8-desktop-session-mir they need to install libpam-cgm
[16:15] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgmanager/+bug/1535058
[16:15] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1535058 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash" [High,In progress]
[16:26] <willcooke> I'v got to go to the chemist to collect a prescription for the babies.  bbl
[16:37] <Sweet5hark1> pitti: failed again :( http://pastebin.com/gyJdLaQp
[17:15] <seb128> willcooke, k, good to know!
[17:18] <willcooke> back
[17:18] <seb128> Trevinho, if you do changes to the video/application lens please consider bug #1502094
[17:18] <ubot5`> bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502094
[17:18] <seb128> or maybe we should do a landing for that?
[17:19] <willcooke> should it be added to the Trello board, or can it be done along with something else?  i.e. does it need it's own task?
[17:20] <seb128> it's a few liners and the bug has patches so it's just a matter to do a landing
[17:20] <willcooke> I'm gonna add it anyway I think
[17:20] <seb128> trivial one but I guess that's a topic by itself so worth a trello card?
[17:20] <seb128> thanks
[17:20] <willcooke> Live the process, be the process :)
[17:24] <seb128> :-)
[17:24] <Laney> speaking of process
[17:24] <Laney> rls-x-incoming is large
[17:24] <seb128> Laney, no webkit upload?
[17:24] <Laney> 12/02 15:10:44  * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0
[17:24] <willcooke> Laney, seb128  - lets do a scrub early next week?
[17:24] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/arm/+build/9003359
[17:24] <seb128> yeah, I though you were going to edit debian/control, debuild -S and dput :p
[17:24] <seb128> oh ok
[17:24] <Laney> need to know if it works
[17:24] <seb128> full testing round for it , I see ;-)
[17:25] <Laney> can't have a build failure against my name
[17:25] <Laney> that would be SICKENING
[17:25] <seb128> haha
[17:25] <seb128> especially when reviews are coming
[17:25] <seb128> "Laney FAILED"
[17:25] <Laney> i386 worked anyway
[17:25] <Laney> good sign
[17:26] <seb128> willcooke, @scrub, wfm
[17:26] <seb128> next week things need to land!
[17:26] <Laney> yeah
[17:26] <seb128> g-s should be good, it's in the archive now and not blocked on MIRs
[17:26] <willcooke> woot
[17:27] <seb128> we should probably fix that appstream directory issue before installing it by default though
[17:27] <Laney> just submitted that
[17:27] <Laney> see what richard says
[17:27] <seb128> great!
[17:27] <Laney> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[17:27] <Laney> this is DoSed by linux-*!
[17:28] <seb128> Laney, do you know if anyone is still using that report/following the process?
[17:28] <seb128> I've the feeling that not
[17:29] <Laney> you mean in our team?
[17:29] <seb128> I mostly tag the bugs to keep a todolist of things to look before release
[17:29] <seb128> no, in any team
[17:29] <Laney> doubt any others
[17:29] <seb128> I tagged a few for foundations owned packages
[17:30] <seb128> and I don't think they milestoned/untagged either
[17:30] <Laney> it was just for us to track our own work
[17:30] <Laney> as a thing which already exists/works sort of
[17:30] <Laney> don't think it is good as a way to get other teams to look at bugs
[17:31] <seb128> well, initially it was a way to flag issues that should look at iirc
[17:31] <seb128> like q.a would tag bugs
[17:31] <seb128> and teams would regularly review the list and try to drive it to 0
[17:32] <seb128> either untagging things that are not judged important enough or milestoning those that needed to be tracked
[17:32] <Laney> indeed
[17:32] <Laney> that bit of it has gone away
[17:32] <Laney> afaik anyway
[17:32] <seb128> k, that was my question/feeling as well
[17:32] <Laney> just something to piggy back on now
[17:32] <Laney> tag -> triage -> work/dump
[17:32] <seb128> right
[17:33] <seb128> I think the list is still an useful "things we should keep an eye on/try to fix for xenial"
[17:33] <seb128> though the CVE spam is annoying
[17:34] <ogra_> +1
[17:36] <seb128> woot, and gnome-calendar fixes for Laney landing as well
[17:36] <seb128> Laney, those pancakes are going to be well deserved ;-)
[17:44] <Laney> yum yum
[17:47] <seb128> :-)
[18:00] <Laney> ok, see you later & happy weekend!
[18:00]  * Laney almost timed that perfectly
[18:04] <willcooke> night Laney
[18:13] <willcooke> urgh.  3 poorly children, time for me to go and help.
[18:13] <willcooke> Have a good weekend all
[18:17] <seb128> have a good w.e!