=== balloons16 is now known as balloons [06:01] hi [06:16] Hey hikiko. [06:16] * TheMuso -> EOD && EOW [06:18] Good morning [06:20] hello TheMuso pitti :) [07:16] pitti: morning! see what your announcement was translated into: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-be-fully-in-sync-with-the-debian-repositories-500309.shtml :) [07:17] " that the Ubuntu repos might be fully in sync with the Debian ones" .. le QUOI ?? [07:18] yeah, let's drop ubuntu, and all use Debian :) [07:19] interesting how "there's some hope ☺ " translates into "yes, we plan" [07:19] heh, indeed! :) [08:07] hello people [08:07] and good morning === ljp is now known as lpotter [08:09] hey desrt [08:10] happy friday, didrocks :) [08:10] happy friday desrt! [08:15] Happy Friday didrocks desrt! [08:16] good morning hikiko [09:03] ahoy [09:04] g'mornin Laney. [09:04] Nice and sunny here this morning [09:05] hey willcooke, happy friday [09:05] it is quite cloudy here [09:05] if I were still in primary school I would hold one of those 1/8 things up to the sky [09:06] and I would say that it is 7/8 cloudy [09:06] moin all! [09:07] hey Sweet5hark1 [09:07] cool nickname [09:08] morning Laney, willcooke and Sweet5hark1! [09:08] * Sweet5hark1 checks: yep, its Friday. [09:09] so were do I see xenial autopkgtests on jenkins? Using the search on the web interface I find them for all series, except for xenial ... [09:11] there is no jenkins [09:11] what are you looking for? [09:14] Sweet5hark1: I would guess you want http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com [09:24] * Laney just discovered by accident that you can vim a url [09:27] Laney: thx alot, thats indeed what I was looking for. [09:28] Sweet5hark1, you also have the logs from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [09:28] if that's what you are looking for? [09:30] Sweet5hark1, the issues seem to be "No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb'."? [09:36] seb128: yeah, except that that test runs just fine here. so something weird about the test env ... [09:38] Sweet5hark1, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test [09:38] you can try locally with qemu or lxc [09:40] seb128: yah -- the running a qemu inside a VirtualBox kind of matroschka puppet games where something I tried to avoid ... [09:41] try with lxc? [09:41] seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb1.8.0/1.8.0.10+dfsg-5ubuntu1 <- hmmm, could this upload 22 hours ago have broken it [09:42] I guess it could... [09:42] libreoffice hsqldb is using 1.8 (we are pretty much the only ones using it) [09:43] why inside vbox? [09:43] and hi seb128! [09:43] hey Laney [09:44] what's up [09:45] started the day with laptop issues (again) [09:45] which turned out to be kernel issues for a change... [09:46] :/ [09:46] no bluetooth with the current kernel [09:46] and video lockups [09:46] reminds me to try -nvidia again [09:46] but it's friday! [09:46] what about you? [09:46] * Laney is good [09:46] we are having pancakes tonight [09:46] nice ;-) [09:46] and I am going to make candied bacon as an experiment [09:47] last night we went to see a play about undercover policing which was based on real cases [09:47] * Laney grr [09:48] grr about? [09:48] * seb128 played tennis yesterday evening, perfect weather ;-) [09:48] just learnt what candied bacon is [09:48] I'm curious now, let us know if it's any good :-) [09:49] don't think I have had it before [09:49] will do! [09:55] morning! (sorry, dentist appointment took longer than expected) [09:56] good morning larsu! [09:56] hey seb128! How are you? [09:56] good! you? [09:56] good, other than that I can't feel my tongue [10:01] hope it's still there [10:01] and not on its way to an exotic restaurant [10:01] think so [10:02] the illicit tongue trade is big [10:02] uh oh [10:02] * larsu thought he trusted his dentist... [10:06] "dget $URL" on xenial doesnt download anything, but instead writes "dget $URL will download something" [10:06] *gumble* [10:06] ah, ignore me. Im stupid as usual. [10:07] Sweet5hark1: don't be too hard on yourself. It's Friday! [10:08] larsu: Id troll myself instead, but aint nobody got time for that! [10:08] hah [10:14] seb128: can you comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubiquity/webkit2/+merge/282467 that it worked for you maybe? [10:14] * Laney wants to go ping [10:15] thanks for fixing that icon thing! [10:15] yw, sorry for screwing it up! [10:15] and thanks for catching the error :-) [10:15] Trevinho, seb128 - we said we'd see what the state of play is with CSD today and decide if we need to change priorities to get it in. How's that coming? [10:16] Laney, done [10:16] merci [10:16] de rien [10:17] Laney, it feels a bit weird to have manifest updates in the webkit commit though, but I let you sort out that with cyphermox or whoever is going to ack the changes [10:17] something did that automatically [10:18] also bonus point to whoever wraps the (build-)depends :p [10:24] morning [10:24] morning andyrock [10:25] hey andyrock [10:25] willcooke, I don't know what's the status about CSD, waiting for Trevinho [10:25] seb128, ack, was more of "cc" :) [10:25] yeah, I figured out I would reply something still ;-) [10:26] :) thanks seb128 [10:26] oh look! it's Sweet5hark1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNG6bVZPzw [10:26] indeed! [10:26] talking about building libreoffice i hope [10:26] via Alberto Ruiz on G+ [10:29] Laney: yeah. If -- on rare occasions -- I have to talk about different things than LibreOffice, I stutter and stumble even more .. [10:30] I mean *building* rather than running :P [10:31] Laney: in that talk more about extending, controlling and scripting libreoffice -- neither building nor running ;) [10:33] hum [10:33] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [10:33] libreoffice-l10n (1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4 to 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1) [10:33] autopkgtest for libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1: s390x: Regression ♻ [10:34] [10:34] is it going to autoretry with libreoffice 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu2? [10:34] and if I click retry, what version is it going to pick? the same or the current one? [10:44] seb128: hmm, isnt that nonsense anyway? pitti pinged me that s390x autopkgtests already broken with 5.0....ubuntu8 for unfanthomable reasons. [10:44] so shouldnt be regression? [10:45] s/regression/a regression/ [10:52] it's still a regression, just not a regression of 5.1 [10:52] but from the previous upload [10:57] seb128: so -- the autopkgtest didnt fail when running from a normal desktop (just rechecked that), it also doesnt fail when just updating the libhsqldb1.8.0. so your sync likely is innocent. [10:58] seb128: no updating all the rest in xenial and see if that breaks it (including such interesting packages as jre and gcc) [11:00] seb128: planning to get step-by-step to xenial-proposed as in the test env to see where it breaks (because I suspect this is again a "something was updated under libreoffice between build and test run" b0rkage) [11:01] if I arrive at xenial-propsed up-to-date and it still doesnt fail, I will recheck in the test-env if that still fail. If so --- meh, thats gotta be fun. [11:25] * Laney has made a way too strong coffee [11:25] * Laney 's face turns inside out [11:45] * willcooke shakes his fist at the HR system [11:47] * Sweet5hark1 hands willcooke a fork and a torch. [11:47] * willcooke burns the HR system. Starting with its face [11:54] that's how you get angry comments :-) [11:55] he's trying to find the give laney all the money button [11:55] hey didrocks ;-) [11:55] haha [11:57] larsu: that's my answer to the last 3 hours "hey" :) [11:57] lol [11:58] hehe [12:09] https://twitter.com/tp_muller/status/698083554962575360 [12:11] * Sweet5hark1 is confused again: Im having "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed main restricted" in my /etc/apt/sources.list but Im getting "libreoffice is already at the newest version (1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1)" -- why? [12:13] while "apt install libreoffice-writer" libreoffice-writer gives me a ...ubuntu2. [12:13] the binary package "libreoffice" is in universe [12:14] Laney: arrgh, right. [12:15] Laney: They serve me tea and know my first name in this trap, because Im dropping by so often. [12:17] willcooke: oh, I missed your ping before... There's some gtk "hacking" missing, as unity with hikiko stuff should be enough. [12:17] Trevinho, oki, any eta on that? Do we need to prioritise it above other things? [12:18] it shouldn't be anything that FF would block imho. [12:19] Trevinho, probably not, but if we have issues we need time to fix. So we should make a start sooner rather than later I think, just to be sure. What do you think? [12:19] yeah, sure [12:20] Trevinho, I think finish the reviews and then let's look at csd early next week? [12:20] ok [12:49] hmm, still cant repro that autotest failure -- need to look at adt-run foo ... [12:49] but this means this is just a false positive FWIW. [12:50] :-/ [12:51] * Laney uploads a wk2 without universe BDs [12:52] ah crap [12:52] Get:332 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpxxv4-4 amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [10.2 kB] [12:52] Get:333 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 libgmpv4-dev amd64 2:6.1.0+dfsg-2ubuntu3 [297 kB] [12:52] now what is that === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:10] hello desktopers [13:10] seb128, hi, what happened with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/1.3.3-1ubuntu1 [13:11] ricotz, hey! you mean? [13:11] it's depwaiting on a MIR [13:11] you can click on any of the build to see that [13:11] " Missing build dependencies: fonttools " [13:11] seb128, that us what I mean [13:11] us/is [13:12] seb128, "happened" was meant like "any progress on" [13:17] ricotz, the MIR is public, I don't have more info that what is in there [13:17] it looks like it's blocked on some team wanted to take ownership for fonttools [13:20] seb128, ah, didnt see the MIR bug [13:23] ricotz, is the graphite update blocking something? [13:25] seb128, noticed it is still horribly outdated and upstream libreoffice 5.1 is using 1.3.5 [13:28] it's not using the system version? [13:30] seb128, of course it is using the ubuntu version 1.2.4, but upstream is testing against/using 1.3.5 [13:30] is 1.3 a stable serie? [13:30] seb128: what do you think about promoting webkit2gtk source so that it gets the main version of libgmp-dev? [13:30] I could block it in proposed [13:30] until everything is uploaded [13:31] (so we don't get two webkits on the cd) [13:31] seb128, I would assume so === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [13:32] Laney, we have 2 sources building the same binary? or how does that work? [13:32] Provides [13:32] seb128, https://github.com/silnrsi/graphite/releases [13:32] some indirect thing gets it, otherwise could fix webkit to use the other one [13:33] Laney, I'm happy to pre-promote it if we are going to go with the migration [13:33] cool [13:33] I guess won't be able to upload any actual things until next week after wk2 itself builds though [13:34] oh no, new -dev packages, could do [13:35] I'm unsure to follow [13:35] you mean it needs a source change/rebuild for the libgmp thing? [13:35] or promote and no change rebuild? [13:35] I need to rebuild it to use geoclue 1 [13:36] but if that happens in universe it will get an extra universe dep on gmp [13:36] so needs to rebuild in main [13:37] I see [13:37] for now you could just promote the source [13:37] but if you do binaries too then I can do some other uploads straight away [13:37] up to you [13:38] there would be a component-mismatch until the rebuilds get published though of course [13:40] Laney, ok, let me look at the binaries, we might as well do that [13:41] thx [13:41] Laney, btw did we get any feedback from the security team? I guess they are happy in any case to swap a webkit for a more recent one? [13:41] yeah I think that was okay [13:41] they have some note to not support webkit anyway ... [13:42] :-/ [13:42] might be better now that they are trying to do CVEs [13:42] cf a recent blog from mcatanzaro [13:43] yeah [13:44] reminds me I wanted to comment on this blog post [13:44] yes, please swap for webkit2 [13:44] "provides security support only to software in the main repository" [13:44] is inaccurate [13:45] mdeslaur: happening now-ish [13:45] \o/ [13:45] well, after lunch when the source has published in main at least [13:45] * Laney biab [13:45] Laney: is there anything left in main that requires old webkit? [13:45] Laney, enjoy lunch! [13:45] should be in there once you are back [13:45] mdeslaur: won't be once we've finished, that is the goal [13:45] mdeslaur, not once Laney is done [13:45] awesome [13:46] thanks! [13:46] yw! [13:46] it's annoying for us to have to patch things back to use an old API too [13:46] and stupid [13:46] so makes sense from all sides [13:47] hopefully we'll actually be able to update it once and a while since that blog post seems to indicate they are trying to maintain a stable api [13:48] yeah === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [14:17] fscking great, adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud ran for half a day and then aborts with some error ... [14:17] ich kann so nicht arbeiten === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:31] Sweet5hark1: what did it fail on? [14:32] I can show you a trick to use a local pre-downloaded image [14:32] half a day?? I thought you have this 10.000 Mbit/s connection (it should take some 5 mins, even on my petty 10 MBit DSL) [14:44] pitti, just for info, my "system doesn't reboot" was due to powerd (that job really doesn't play along nicely with desktops) [14:45] I wonder who would review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/powerd/start-with-android-only/+merge/263951 [14:49] tvoss? [14:50] pitti: it was complaining about some plymouth plugin foo failing. [14:51] pitti: restated now, lets see how it goes. [14:51] yeah, maybe [14:51] Laney, btw webkit2gtk is in main with binaries now [14:53] thanks! [14:53] it just published in the last 2 minutes or so [14:53] * Laney block [14:53] * Laney upload [15:10] * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0 [15:11] good job I checked the debdiff [15:54] not sure this block is going to work [16:15] seb128, fyi: if you find people saying that apps wont open in u8-desktop-session-mir they need to install libpam-cgm [16:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgmanager/+bug/1535058 [16:15] Launchpad bug 1535058 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash" [High,In progress] [16:26] I'v got to go to the chemist to collect a prescription for the babies. bbl [16:37] pitti: failed again :( http://pastebin.com/gyJdLaQp [17:15] willcooke, k, good to know! [17:18] back [17:18] Trevinho, if you do changes to the video/application lens please consider bug #1502094 [17:18] bug 1502094 in unity-scope-home (Ubuntu) "libgee-0.8-dev should be used, libgee-dev will be removed from the archive" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502094 [17:18] or maybe we should do a landing for that? [17:19] should it be added to the Trello board, or can it be done along with something else? i.e. does it need it's own task? [17:20] it's a few liners and the bug has patches so it's just a matter to do a landing [17:20] I'm gonna add it anyway I think [17:20] trivial one but I guess that's a topic by itself so worth a trello card? [17:20] thanks [17:20] Live the process, be the process :) [17:24] :-) [17:24] speaking of process [17:24] rls-x-incoming is large [17:24] Laney, no webkit upload? [17:24] 12/02 15:10:44 * Laney screams, forgot to remove geoclue-2.0 [17:24] Laney, seb128 - lets do a scrub early next week? [17:24] https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/arm/+build/9003359 [17:24] yeah, I though you were going to edit debian/control, debuild -S and dput :p [17:24] oh ok [17:24] need to know if it works [17:24] full testing round for it , I see ;-) [17:25] can't have a build failure against my name [17:25] that would be SICKENING [17:25] haha [17:25] especially when reviews are coming [17:25] "Laney FAILED" [17:25] i386 worked anyway [17:25] good sign [17:26] willcooke, @scrub, wfm [17:26] next week things need to land! [17:26] yeah [17:26] g-s should be good, it's in the archive now and not blocked on MIRs [17:26] woot [17:27] we should probably fix that appstream directory issue before installing it by default though [17:27] just submitted that [17:27] see what richard says [17:27] great! [17:27] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html [17:27] this is DoSed by linux-*! [17:28] Laney, do you know if anyone is still using that report/following the process? [17:28] I've the feeling that not [17:29] you mean in our team? [17:29] I mostly tag the bugs to keep a todolist of things to look before release [17:29] no, in any team [17:29] doubt any others [17:29] I tagged a few for foundations owned packages [17:30] and I don't think they milestoned/untagged either [17:30] it was just for us to track our own work [17:30] as a thing which already exists/works sort of [17:30] don't think it is good as a way to get other teams to look at bugs [17:31] well, initially it was a way to flag issues that should look at iirc [17:31] like q.a would tag bugs [17:31] and teams would regularly review the list and try to drive it to 0 [17:32] either untagging things that are not judged important enough or milestoning those that needed to be tracked [17:32] indeed [17:32] that bit of it has gone away [17:32] afaik anyway [17:32] k, that was my question/feeling as well [17:32] just something to piggy back on now [17:32] tag -> triage -> work/dump [17:32] right [17:33] I think the list is still an useful "things we should keep an eye on/try to fix for xenial" [17:33] though the CVE spam is annoying [17:34] +1 [17:36] woot, and gnome-calendar fixes for Laney landing as well [17:36] Laney, those pancakes are going to be well deserved ;-) [17:44] yum yum [17:47] :-) [18:00] ok, see you later & happy weekend! [18:00] * Laney almost timed that perfectly [18:04] night Laney [18:13] urgh. 3 poorly children, time for me to go and help. [18:13] Have a good weekend all [18:17] have a good w.e!