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| phillw | yikes!!.. Well, back in 14.04 kernel time when I built a non-pae kernel it worked, but would not work under "LiveCD" install. I was told about 'aufs' and we did build successful kernel http://phillw.net/isos/non-pae/ is there a link for the 4.4 kernel ? | 00:36 |
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| apw | phillw, link for what exactly? | 00:41 |
| phillw | apw: That link will build a kernel and stuff, but there was something to do with aufs that was needed. I'm really sorry that I have updated / changed my computer and I do not keep the inks on the wiki page. | 00:44 |
| apw | phillw, sadly i don't think i know waht that means .. | 00:45 |
| phillw | apw: have a look at http://aufs.sourceforge.net/ | 00:47 |
| phillw | it has the list | 00:47 |
| apw | phillw, i don't understand what you are asking? our 4.4 kernel has aufs applied | 00:49 |
| phillw | the AUFS is required to have an ISO that can run from CD / DVD / USB | 00:49 |
| phillw | apw: that was the question!!! | 00:49 |
| utlemming | hey guys...I'm using the mainline 4.5 kernel (i915 is unstable on 4.2). I've noticed high load on the 4.4 and 4.5 kernels for my Intel Mobile processor. I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/1544798 | 00:50 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1544798 in linux-meta (Ubuntu) "high load with 4.4 and 4.5 kernels for Intel Mobile processors" [Undecided,New] | 00:50 |
| apw | phillw, overlayfs is required for the iso | 00:50 |
| apw | phillw, but clearly whatver is needed is in our kernel else our iso's would not boot | 00:51 |
| phillw | apw: so, if I take the ubuntu 4.4 and knock it back to non-pae what does it need | 00:51 |
| apw | phillw, it needs PAE configuration turned off | 00:52 |
| apw | in the config | 00:52 |
| phillw | apw: the kernel would boot, I apologise as I'm going back to 3.13 which was 14,04 | 00:52 |
| utlemming | just thought that I would let you guys know to get this on the radar for 16.04 | 00:52 |
| apw | utlemming, well its filed againsts the wrong package, so a good job you did bring it up | 00:53 |
| apw | are we sure this isn't the load being reported higher becuase the cpu is being clocked slower to save power that cking investigated though | 00:53 |
| apw | jsalisbury, ^ a bug for investigation perhaps, and moving to linux | 00:53 |
| jsalisbury | apw, ack, I'll take a look | 00:54 |
| utlemming | apw: whoops, and thank you :) | 00:54 |
| phillw | apw: I have that part, it worked well, but the kernel so produced needed aufs - that part of the instructions I have lost over the last couple of years. I know that non-pae is not high on the list and I reckon I could still manage that, but the aufs for live CD boot I'm 2 years behind on. | 00:54 |
| apw | phillw, iso does not require aufs, it requires overlayfs, but both of those are in the ubuntu 4.4 kernel and enabled | 00:55 |
| apw | phillw, so i still do not know what you are asking me | 00:55 |
| phillw | apw: would you be so kind as to look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/non-pae and either write a long list of where things have changed, or have an edit. It's not the biggest job. | 00:58 |
| phillw | apw: I'll buy you coffee :D | 00:59 |
| apw | it looks close enough | 01:02 |
| phillw | apw: so, we do not need to add in aufs now.. it is in the main kernel? ... I'm starting to remember that it was actually a bug back then :) | 01:03 |
| apw | phillw, all of our kernel sources have the bits they need to make an ISO work, and it all enaled | 01:04 |
| apw | enabled | 01:04 |
| phillw | apw: I owe you coffee.. please email me your ppal name to phillw@linuxpadawan.net | 01:04 |
| apw | phillw, no need | 01:04 |
| phillw | apw: do we still turn off the CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO | 01:05 |
| apw | phillw, if you are building out of PPA yes, in PPA no | 01:05 |
| phillw | apw: Why does a local build produce such enormous packages? Our build includes CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO in order to produce linux-debug-image packages. We then manually strip the modules after build. | 01:06 |
| apw | it is about those being 5GB in size | 01:07 |
| phillw | maybe a little large for a cd :) | 01:07 |
| phillw | hehe... thanks a lot. i will be honest, I was expecting "you want to do WHAT?!!", instead you have told me that I can at least have a 1st roll of the 4.4 kernel | 01:08 |
| phillw | apw: last big ask... what is the link for xenial 4.4 as opposed to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/linux/3.13.0-8.27/+files/linux_3.13.0.orig.tar.gz ? | 01:10 |
| apw | phillw, you should work from the git repo, apply the config delta, then you can rebase it later | 01:11 |
| phillw | apw: that will make more sense to a padawan who wants to learn deeper kernel, But with others sniggering in other channel as I explain I do not understand. could you explain "you should work from the git repo, apply the config delta, then you can rebase it later" to some one who does not use git ? | 01:15 |
| phillw | wxl: and it appears that aufs is now enabled by default, instead of what melodie and my self had to do with the 3.13 kernel for 14,04 | 01:18 |
| apw | phillw, git is a version control system, i am suggsting you get your source from our master git repo | 01:19 |
| apw | do the configuration edit in that tree | 01:19 |
| apw | and then commit that, as that is then rebasable | 01:19 |
| phillw | apw: all I need to do is alter the " High Memory Support" from 64GB to 4 GB and then respin the kernel. | 01:21 |
| apw | sounds abut right | 01:21 |
| phillw | the requirement for non-PAE kernel is growing smaller, but as lubuntu and other teams do support older kit.. I do make available such a kernel for community repsins. | 01:22 |
| apw | phillw, it woul dmake sense to do that via a PPA imo | 01:23 |
| phillw | apw: Well, I'd have to ask for help on that... it is an area well out of my known stuff..... But, I do have a guy who knows c, etc building debs etc and would like to get to understand kernel building a lot more. | 01:25 |
| phillw | It is actually having him as a padawan that reminded me that I may may be due to make a new 4.4 kernel (at least ubuntu and kernel are back in sync) | 01:26 |
| apw | phillw, all you need to do is apply the delta change, and build a src package as normal (you do that already for other packages) and upload that to a ppa | 01:27 |
| phillw | okies, great!! | 01:28 |
| rui1 | \exit | 05:55 |
| ppisati_ | smb: it's me, for real! | 09:16 |
| ppisati_ | ppisati: who are you? liar! | 09:17 |
| smb | ppisati_, suffering from (net) split personalities | 09:19 |
| cristian_c | jsalisbury: hi | 13:16 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: 4.4.0-040400rc1-generic == FAIL | 18:19 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: holler when you have your first kernel in the bisect series for me? | 18:20 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, I'll start the build now | 18:35 |
| lamont | kewl | 18:38 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: curious -- how long is your buildtime? | 18:40 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, probably about 20 minutes | 18:41 |
| * lamont as an appt that he will be leaving for in about 5 minutes, back in about 2 hours or so.. | 18:41 | |
| jsalisbury | lamont, there will be about 10 of them to test, so I'll just keep posting links in the bug | 18:41 |
| lamont | which is to say, I'll test it when I get back... | 18:41 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: works for me | 18:41 |
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| cristian_c | jsalisbury: hi, again | 20:42 |
| jsalisbury | cristian_c, hey | 20:44 |
| cristian_c | jsalisbury: I've read your question in launchpad | 20:48 |
| cristian_c | jsalisbury: sorry, I've never created a patch file | 20:54 |
| jsalisbury | cristian_c, that's not a problem. I can submit it, I wasn't sure if you discussed the fix with upstream or not. | 20:57 |
| cristian_c | jsalisbury: ok | 20:59 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: empty directory at your lin | 21:03 |
| lamont | link | 21:03 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, ok, let me check | 21:03 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, ok, they are there now. | 21:05 |
| lamont | yep | 21:05 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: updating the bug: good kernel | 21:13 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, great, I'll build the next one | 21:13 |
| lamont | bonus points if you put it somewhere I can rsync... | 21:14 |
| lamont | will this next one be 4.3.0-040301? | 21:14 |
| lamont | or should I clear out the test each round? | 21:14 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, the script used to build the kernels puts a date stamp in the name, and it could start with 4.4 as it bounces back and forth between good and bad kernels. | 21:16 |
| lamont | ack | 21:16 |
| * lamont clears out the cruft, just to be sure | 21:16 | |
| jsalisbury | lamont, The next kernel is building. I just scp the .deb files to that public web server. I can scp them anywhere you want, as long as I have access. | 21:26 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: mombin.c.c:~/lamont would be a fine target | 21:32 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, is that accessable from the Canonical network? I can't seem to get there | 21:37 |
| * lamont is going over the vpn, but it should otherwise be reachable | 21:38 | |
| lamont | alternatively, sftp to people.u.c | 21:38 |
| lamont | which doesn't help me.. so nm people.u.c | 21:39 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, I can get to mombin, so I'll put them in your home directory | 21:40 |
| lamont | ~/lamont, not ~lmaont | 21:40 |
| lamont | that is, toss 'em where you can put them (write perms being such), and I'll pul from your home dir | 21:40 |
| lamont | we have read access to each other's directories, but not write | 21:40 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, ok, I'll just put em in my home dir | 21:41 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, looks like my build server can't get to mombin or people, but my desktop can. The next kernel is ready so I'll just scp it to kernel.ubuntu.com and see if I can figure out a way for you to rsync | 21:45 |
| lamont | sure | 21:45 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: from the land of hahaha lamont, I have a login on kernel.u.c, beacuse of kernel-team | 21:46 |
| lamont | rather, kernel_devs | 21:46 |
| lamont | so definitely just throw it somehwere there | 21:46 |
| jsalisbury | lamont, ok, next kernel is there. I posted to the bug to, so I can keep track of where we are in the bisect and what kernels were good/bad | 21:47 |
| lamont | yep | 21:47 |
| lamont | jsalisbury: good. updated. | 21:52 |
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