[00:00] I'll start to feed it, with time [00:00] good good === ezri is now known as rww [03:19] I've been testing 16.10 on a desktop and the power manager plugin shows a battery with (0:00, 0%) instead of the plug icon. Has anyone else seen this? Couldn't find anything similar on the xfce bugzilla. [03:21] 16.04 :) [03:30] jfaust: I recommend running: `ubuntu-bug xfce4-battery-plugin` to submit it to launchpad, part of the submission process will search to see if there are similar bugs, and the tool collects system information so the devs know a bit more about your setup and can try to replicate [03:30] I am not familiar with this bug off the top of my head, but the xubuntu bug tracker might know :D [03:35] pleia2: thanks! I'll try 'ubuntu-bug'. couldn't find any similar bugs in launchpad either. haven't submitted a bug to launchpad before. I'm just getting started with testing [03:37] jfaust: launchpad is where the devs need the information in order to work through issues, so you should definitely make an account if you want to help us with testing :) [03:38] and thanks! we defintely need more folks testing and reporting bugs [03:39] pleia2: happy to help! i did setup a launchpad account and joined the testing group. started doing some test cases, but it looks like all of the mandatory tests are completed. doing exploratory testing now [03:40] jfaust: which iso are you testing? the daily images don't have any mandatory tests run yet [03:41] today's 64-bit: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/112263/testcases [03:43] jfaust: it sounds like you have the Xubuntu daily packages PPA installed, that sounds like xfce4-power-manager 1.5.x [03:43] bluesabre: ah, good catch :) [03:44] pleia2: i downloaded the iso on saturday the 6th, but i ran dist-upgrade today. i did add the xubuntu-dev ppa after a fresh install [03:45] bluesabre: i'm not sure how to check the xfce4-power-manager version # [03:46] jfaust: you can check the version number with this command [03:46] xfce4-power-manager --version [03:47] and if you want to create or change the setting for the power manager panel label, you can use [03:47] xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/show-panel-label -s 0 --create [03:48] xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/show-panel-label -s 0 [03:48] the value set at the end can be 0, 1, 2, or 3 [03:49] bluesabre: thanks! i'm running 1.5.2 i will try changing the power manager label [03:49] jfaust: np [03:50] heading to bed now, night all [03:50] (ochosi, would be good to set the default panel label value to 0, I might provide a patch for that before you release 1.6.0) [03:56] pleia2: when I run 'ubuntu-bug xfce4-battery-plugin' I get a 'no packages found matching..' message [03:57] jfaust: yeah, as bluesabre mentioned you probably want to do: ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager [04:00] pleia2: ok, I tried that and got a different message: The problem could not be reported: This is not an official Ubuntu package... [04:04] pleia2: also having trouble with bluesabre's suggestion to change the label. I'm reading about xfconf now :) [04:12] pleia2: ok, I got the (0:00, 0%) label to disappear with bluesabre's suggestion. I only had to add the type, -t int, to the create command. it looks like the default is 3 and changing it to 0 hides the label. however, the icon is still a battery instead of the plug. I'll keep looking into 'ubuntu-bug'. thanks a lot for talking with me about it! [04:13] oh yes, using the PPA, I don't remember if you can use the ubuntu-bug too when reporting against those, but I don't have the instructions offhand :\ [04:21] pleia2: that makes sense. I purged the ppa, reverted to xfce4-power-manager 1.4.4 and the behavior is as expected: plug icon with no (0:00, 0%) label. I'll go back to the PPA for testing and keep looking for how to report bugs. thanks again for all of your help! I'm unplugging for the night. [04:22] jfaust: thanks for testing, have a good night :) [04:22] pleia2: you too, thanks! === sorinello_ is now known as sorinello === sorinello_ is now known as sorinello === sorinello_ is now known as sorinello [09:11] pleia2: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-bugs.html has ppa reporting in it [09:37] knome: so re the media manager articles - where do you want people to send them? write them to? [10:26] slickymaster: when yo expecting to get the slideshow done? [10:27] late March [10:28] the slideshow is always one of the last things to deal with, flocculant [10:28] yes [10:28] I know that - just was asking [10:28] are you thinking in going ahead and starting to work on it? [10:29] so - it needs to not be late march ... [10:29] mid-march at the latest, final beta is 21/22 March [10:29] wfm [10:30] don't see any issue with that [10:30] and no - not thinking about working on it :) [10:30] can't blame me for trying ;) [10:30] ha ha [10:30] happy to help when it comes [10:31] no idea what we want it to say for 3 years tbh [10:31] * slickymasterWork knows that :) [10:31] the former, not the later [10:32] :) [10:40] bluesabre: bug 1533200 [10:40] bug 1533200 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black background at first login" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533200 [10:41] background on first boot isn't black indeed, but it is blue and isn't the default wallpaper till one has logged in/out [11:11] flocculant: yes, that's because its the plymouth background [11:12] flocculant: I don't think we have a plymoth dev background [11:18] bluesabre: ok - cool - just making sure :) [11:19] flocculant: cool :) [11:41] flocculant, for now, add yourself to the list; once the list is ready (and suggestions are sent to improve the questions, if any), i'll be in touch again [11:50] knome: okey doke [11:51] but of course you can prepare to answer the questions in the list ;) [11:51] not really sure what to do currently - clementine works - just not out the box - pulse and it are still broken :p [11:52] knome: and yea understood :) [11:52] uh-oh... systemd upgrade problems on my way to 16.04..... "leaving package unconfigured" is probably not what i want..... [11:54] same for "init" - well, who needs that one :D [11:54] this is going to be an interesting reboot after that [11:54] upgrade in 16.04 or going from something to 16.04? [11:57] from 15.10 [11:58] bug 1527574 perhaps [11:58] bug 1527574 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "upgrading ufw, libc-bin, initramfs-tools, systemd, and others: triggers looping, abandoned" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527574 [11:59] maybe. yet i also had some ppas active... [12:01] so did that bug [12:01] d-r-u disables them. [12:02] yeah but does it purge them? [12:03] well... lets see how it turns out [12:10] knome: this the sort of thing you're wanting? "How do you listen to music? Sometimes quietly, sometimes annoyingly loud :)" [12:10] :P [12:10] the subitems should help you figure out [12:11] :D [12:11] oh gosh i DO need to write a dokuwiki plugin [12:11] Sometimes Skrillex, really loud, going down the highway at 77MPH. [12:15] ha ha ha [12:22] knome: started - have a comment almost immediately now I have :p [12:22] we should have the 'what you use' first [12:22] otherwise it's read some stuff, read some more, then 'oh this one uses this application' [12:23] maybe [12:23] i did think about that... [12:24] but then i wondered if it would actually be more helpful to start with the "how" [12:24] if we start with the app name, does anybody read below that? :P [12:25] possibly [12:27] or perhaps put app name in title [12:28] yeah [12:34] flocculant: bug 1544954 - funny enough everything seems normal after reboot... apart from a dozen apport popups :) [12:34] bug 1544954 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update from wily to xenial fails, lots of package installation errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544954 [12:36] ha ha [12:36] there are a few things i don't like about dokuwiki, but i'll let them be for now... [12:37] knome: ok - done that when you want it [12:38] flocculant, ok, thanks :) [12:38] flocculant, actually, push it to the website as a draft article [12:38] because that's where it'll end up anyway [12:38] oh okey doke [12:39] that way we can get the formatting consistent too etc. [12:39] yep [12:53] knome: ok I did that - completely unformatted though, didnt know what you wanted it too look like so left it bare [12:55] flocculant, sure, that's completely fine :) [12:55] :) [14:42] done the media manager item, knome [15:12] cop out ... [15:12] :p [15:47] jjfrv8, did you get a confirmation mail about your wiki registration, or are you still waiting for one? [15:47] jjfrv8, if latter, ping me and i'll PM you a new password so you can actually access stuff [15:52] knome, yes, I got the email and was able to log in and add my entry. [15:52] great! [15:53] thanks :) [15:53] thank you :) [16:37] flocculant: I should have known :) thanks [16:59] pleia2: :) [17:50] http://wiki.xubuntu.org/team/sandbox [17:50] \o/ [17:50] this is SOOOO much better [17:53] :D [17:54] compared to http://wiki.xubuntu.org/team/sandbox?do=index, that is [17:55] maybe it would be nice to add some css for it, but the structure is now good imo [17:56] also, should probably figure out if i can override the current default sitemap completely [20:30] bluesabre, a question, would you consider pithos a cloud media player? [20:30] i mean, does it manage local collection? [23:12] knome: it is a cloud media player [23:12] there are no local files [23:12] I think I mentioned that before, and you said put it up there anyway ;) [23:12] or I misinterpreted [23:15] i just didn't focus so well [23:15] but good that it's there, let's group it with the rest who say they only use cloud stuff [23:27] knome: cool [23:27] testing some others to see what I would recommend [23:27] :D [23:27] so there is something to contribute from me :) [23:27] hehe, good good [23:27] then maybe we can do an "other options" article after all