[00:00] <slickymaster> I'll start to feed it, with time
[00:00] <knome> good good
[03:19] <jfaust> I've been testing 16.10 on a desktop and the power manager plugin shows a battery with (0:00, 0%) instead of the plug icon.  Has anyone else seen this?  Couldn't find anything similar on the xfce bugzilla.
[03:21] <jfaust> 16.04 :)
[03:30] <pleia2> jfaust: I recommend running: `ubuntu-bug xfce4-battery-plugin` to submit it to launchpad, part of the submission process will search to see if there are similar bugs, and the tool collects system information so the devs know a bit more about your setup and can try to replicate
[03:30] <pleia2> I am not familiar with this bug off the top of my head, but the xubuntu bug tracker might know :D
[03:35] <jfaust> pleia2: thanks!  I'll try 'ubuntu-bug'.  couldn't find any similar bugs in launchpad either.  haven't submitted a bug to launchpad before.  I'm just getting started with testing
[03:37] <pleia2> jfaust: launchpad is where the devs need the information in order to work through issues, so you should definitely make an account if you want to help us with testing :)
[03:38] <pleia2> and thanks! we defintely need more folks testing and reporting bugs
[03:39] <jfaust> pleia2:  happy to help!  i did setup a launchpad account and joined the testing group.  started doing some test cases, but it looks like all of the mandatory tests are completed.  doing exploratory testing now
[03:40] <pleia2> jfaust: which iso are you testing? the daily images don't have any mandatory tests run yet
[03:41] <pleia2> today's 64-bit: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/112263/testcases
[03:43] <bluesabre> jfaust: it sounds like you have the Xubuntu daily packages PPA installed, that sounds like xfce4-power-manager 1.5.x
[03:43] <pleia2> bluesabre: ah, good catch :)
[03:44] <jfaust> pleia2:  i downloaded the iso on saturday the 6th, but i ran dist-upgrade today.  i did add the xubuntu-dev ppa after a fresh install
[03:45] <jfaust> bluesabre: i'm not sure how to check the xfce4-power-manager version #
[03:46] <bluesabre> jfaust: you can check the version number with this command
[03:46] <bluesabre> xfce4-power-manager --version
[03:47] <bluesabre> and if you want to create or change the setting for the power manager panel label, you can use
[03:47] <bluesabre> xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/show-panel-label -s 0 --create
[03:48] <bluesabre> xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/show-panel-label -s 0
[03:48] <bluesabre> the value set at the end can be 0, 1, 2, or 3
[03:49] <jfaust> bluesabre:  thanks!  i'm running 1.5.2  i will try changing the power manager label
[03:49] <bluesabre> jfaust: np
[03:50] <bluesabre> heading to bed now, night all
[03:50] <bluesabre> (ochosi, would be good to set the default panel label value to 0, I might provide a patch for that before you release 1.6.0)
[03:56] <jfaust> pleia2:  when I run 'ubuntu-bug xfce4-battery-plugin' I get a 'no packages found matching..' message
[03:57] <pleia2> jfaust: yeah, as bluesabre mentioned you probably want to do: ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager
[04:00] <jfaust> pleia2: ok, I tried that and got a different message: The problem could not be reported: This is not an official Ubuntu package...
[04:04] <jfaust> pleia2: also having trouble with bluesabre's suggestion to change the label. I'm reading about xfconf now :)
[04:12] <jfaust> pleia2: ok, I got the (0:00, 0%) label to disappear with bluesabre's suggestion.  I only had to add the type, -t int, to the create command.  it looks like the default is 3 and changing it to 0 hides the label.  however, the icon is still a battery instead of the plug.  I'll keep looking into 'ubuntu-bug'.  thanks a lot for talking with me about it! 
[04:13] <pleia2> oh yes, using the PPA, I don't remember if you can use the ubuntu-bug too when reporting against those, but I don't have the instructions offhand :\
[04:21] <jfaust> pleia2:  that makes sense.  I purged the ppa, reverted to xfce4-power-manager 1.4.4 and the behavior is as expected: plug icon with no (0:00, 0%) label.  I'll go back to the PPA for testing and keep looking for how to report bugs.  thanks again for all of your help!  I'm unplugging for the night.
[04:22] <pleia2> jfaust: thanks for testing, have a good night :)
[04:22] <jfaust> pleia2:  you too, thanks!
[09:11] <flocculant> pleia2: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-bugs.html has ppa reporting in it
[09:37] <flocculant> knome: so re the media manager articles - where do you want people to send them? write them to? 
[10:26] <flocculant> slickymaster: when yo expecting to get the slideshow done? 
[10:27] <slickymasterWork> late March
[10:28] <slickymasterWork> the slideshow is always one of the last things to deal with, flocculant 
[10:28] <flocculant> yes
[10:28] <flocculant> I know that - just was asking 
[10:28] <slickymasterWork> are you thinking in going ahead and starting to work on it?
[10:29] <flocculant> so - it needs to not be late march ... 
[10:29] <flocculant> mid-march at the latest, final beta is 21/22 March
[10:29] <slickymasterWork> wfm
[10:30] <slickymasterWork> don't see any issue with that
[10:30] <flocculant> and no - not thinking about working on it :)
[10:30] <slickymasterWork> can't blame me for trying ;)
[10:30] <flocculant> ha ha 
[10:30] <flocculant> happy to help when it comes 
[10:31] <flocculant> no idea what we want it to say for 3 years tbh 
[10:31]  * slickymasterWork knows that :)
[10:31] <slickymasterWork> the former, not the later 
[10:32] <flocculant> :)
[10:40] <flocculant> bluesabre: bug 1533200
[10:41] <flocculant> background on first boot isn't black indeed, but it is blue and isn't the default wallpaper till one has logged in/out
[11:11] <bluesabre> flocculant: yes, that's because its the plymouth background
[11:12] <bluesabre> flocculant: I don't think we have a plymoth dev background
[11:18] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - cool - just making sure :)
[11:19] <bluesabre> flocculant: cool :)
[11:41] <knome> flocculant, for now, add yourself to the list; once the list is ready (and suggestions are sent to improve the questions, if any), i'll be in touch again
[11:50] <flocculant> knome: okey doke
[11:51] <knome> but of course you can prepare to answer the questions in the list ;)
[11:51] <flocculant> not really sure what to do currently - clementine works - just not out the box - pulse and it are still broken :p
[11:52] <flocculant> knome: and yea understood :)
[11:52] <dkessel> uh-oh... systemd upgrade problems on my way to 16.04..... "leaving package unconfigured" is probably not what i want.....
[11:54] <dkessel> same for "init" - well, who needs that one :D
[11:54] <dkessel> this is going to be an interesting reboot after that
[11:54] <flocculant> upgrade in 16.04 or going from something to 16.04?
[11:57] <dkessel> from 15.10
[11:58] <flocculant> bug 1527574 perhaps
[11:59] <dkessel> maybe. yet i also had some ppas active...
[12:01] <flocculant> so did that bug 
[12:01] <Unit193> d-r-u disables them.
[12:02] <dkessel> yeah but does it purge them?
[12:03] <dkessel> well... lets see how it turns out
[12:10] <flocculant> knome: this the sort of thing you're wanting? "How do you listen to music? Sometimes quietly, sometimes annoyingly loud :)" 
[12:10] <knome> :P
[12:10] <knome> the subitems should help you figure out
[12:11] <flocculant> :D
[12:11] <knome> oh gosh i DO need to write a dokuwiki plugin
[12:11] <Unit193> Sometimes Skrillex, really loud, going down the highway at 77MPH.
[12:15] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[12:22] <flocculant> knome: started - have a comment almost immediately now I have :p
[12:22] <flocculant> we should have the 'what you use' first 
[12:22] <flocculant> otherwise it's read some stuff, read some more, then 'oh this one uses this application' 
[12:23] <knome> maybe
[12:23] <knome> i did think about that...
[12:24] <knome> but then i wondered if it would actually be more helpful to start with the "how"
[12:24] <knome> if we start with the app name, does anybody read below that? :P
[12:25] <flocculant> possibly 
[12:27] <flocculant> or perhaps put app name in title 
[12:28] <knome> yeah
[12:34] <dkessel> flocculant: bug 1544954 - funny enough everything seems normal after reboot... apart from a dozen apport popups :)
[12:36] <flocculant> ha ha 
[12:36] <knome> there are a few things i don't like about dokuwiki, but i'll let them be for now...
[12:37] <flocculant> knome: ok - done that when you want it
[12:38] <knome> flocculant, ok, thanks :)
[12:38] <knome> flocculant, actually, push it to the website as a draft article
[12:38] <knome> because that's where it'll end up anyway
[12:38] <flocculant> oh okey doke
[12:39] <knome> that way we can get the formatting consistent too etc.
[12:39] <flocculant> yep
[12:53] <flocculant> knome: ok I did that - completely unformatted though, didnt know what you wanted it too look like so left it bare
[12:55] <knome> flocculant, sure, that's completely fine :)
[12:55] <flocculant> :)
[14:42] <slickymasterWork> done the media manager item, knome 
[15:12] <flocculant> cop out ... 
[15:12] <flocculant> :p
[15:47] <knome> jjfrv8, did you get a confirmation mail about your wiki registration, or are you still waiting for one?
[15:47] <knome> jjfrv8, if latter, ping me and i'll PM you a new password so you can actually access stuff
[15:52] <jjfrv8> knome, yes, I got the email and was able to log in and add my entry.
[15:52] <knome> great!
[15:53] <knome> thanks :)
[15:53] <jjfrv8> thank you :)
[16:37] <pleia2> flocculant: I should have known :) thanks
[16:59] <flocculant> pleia2: :)
[17:50] <knome> http://wiki.xubuntu.org/team/sandbox
[17:50] <knome> \o/
[17:50] <knome> this is SOOOO much better
[17:53] <flocculant> :D
[17:54] <knome> compared to http://wiki.xubuntu.org/team/sandbox?do=index, that is
[17:55] <knome> maybe it would be nice to add some css for it, but the structure is now good imo
[17:56] <knome> also, should probably figure out if i can override the current default sitemap completely
[20:30] <knome> bluesabre, a question, would you consider pithos a cloud media player?
[20:30] <knome> i mean, does it manage local collection?
[23:12] <bluesabre> knome: it is a cloud media player
[23:12] <bluesabre> there are no local files
[23:12] <bluesabre> I think I mentioned that before, and you said put it up there anyway ;)
[23:12] <bluesabre> or I misinterpreted
[23:15] <knome> i just didn't focus so well
[23:15] <knome> but good that it's there, let's group it with the rest who say they only use cloud stuff
[23:27] <bluesabre> knome: cool
[23:27] <bluesabre> testing some others to see what I would recommend
[23:27] <knome> :D
[23:27] <bluesabre> so there is something to contribute from me :)
[23:27] <knome> hehe, good good
[23:27] <knome> then maybe we can do an "other options" article after all