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Oderushi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?01:59
valoriethe one as you are loading up is plymough02:08
valorieplymouth02:08
valorienot sure what other splash you are referring to02:08
valorieI believe the one in the systemsettings is chosen by Kubuntu, but I'm not sure about that02:10
keithzgvalorie: I think Oderus was just talking about the Plasma splash screen on login.03:09
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Tangelo_Hi. Is this where I can get some help with Kubuntu?04:40
Tangelo_Hi. I've been having some trouble with Kubuntu lately. It will not update either through Muon or using the terminal. I get errors. Consistently : Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic04:40
Tangelo_When using Muon it says: “Mark additional changes. This action requires changes to other packages:  Remove linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic04:40
Tangelo_I hit ok. Provide my password and get the following error.  An error occurred while applying changes. The details are blank.  I have tried autoremove in the terminal but no luck. Can you help?04:41
valorieTangelo_: try `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`05:23
valorieif you continue to get errors, try `sudo apt install -f` where f = fix05:24
Tangelo_Thank you valorie. I'll give that a try05:30
valorieI do use autoremove, but only after I've logged in and ensured that the new kernel is working well05:33
FritigernTangelo_: Without knowing your system, i would guess (und this is only a guess) that your boot pertition is full. If that's the case, do "sudo apt autoremove"05:33
FritigernHey! How dare you beat me to it, val? :-) :-) :-)05:34
valorieha05:35
valorieor better yet, `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`05:35
valorieFritigern: good point about the full boot partition though05:35
valorieI guess that was a bug for awhile05:35
Tangelo_sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade returned the following:  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-23-generic_4.2.0-23.28_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-25-generic_4.2.0-25.30_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:37
Tangelo_I'll try `sudo apt install -f`05:38
FritigernI usually get that error when a package is corrupt. sudo apt-get clean usually fixes that for me.05:40
valorieyou don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right?05:40
Fritigernvalorie: Was that a question for me or for Tangelo_ ?05:41
Tangelo_you don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right? ahhhh I don't think so05:42
valorieyou would remember05:43
Tangelo_No luck with the 'sudo apt install -f'  Trying `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`05:46
FritigernAfter that has completed without errors (fingers crossed), make sure to re-run `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`05:48
valorieTangelo_: remember your up-arrow in the konsole05:49
valoriehuge timesaver05:49
Tangelo_Oh man the "without errors" part didn't work out. I got the following05:49
Tangelo_gzip: stdout: No space left on device E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1 update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-25-generic with 1. run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1 dpkg: error processing package linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic (--remove):  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra05:50
FritigernYup, same deal as I had05:50
FritigernI had to manually remove a few of the oldest kenels from the boot partition before it would let me perform autoclean05:50
FritigernDo not that removing stuff by hand is NOT recommended!05:51
Fritigern*not = note05:52
Tangelo_Oy, arrow up in konsole. I guess I should not admit it but I had no idea about that. you just saved me lots of time in the future05:53
FritigernTangelo_: Are you also aware of tab completion?05:53
Tangelo_nope05:54
FritigernYou can type part of a program name, then hit tab to fill out the rest of the name. If there are more than one programs that match, then a second tap on the tab will show you the available options05:55
FritigernFor example, if you type "systems" then hit tab, it should automaticlly expand to "systemsettings5"05:56
Tangelo_oy, I just tryed that. I think my room actuually got brighter. thank you05:58
FritigernHowever, back to the problem at hand. I wish i knew what kernels are installed on your system and where they are put. In my case they were placed in a 250mb partition, I don;t know if you have such a partition05:58
Tangelo_I don't know05:59
FritigernCould you show me what the outpput is of  ls /boot/initrd.*06:01
Tangelo_cannot access /boot/initrd: No such file or directory06:04
FritigernYou've forgot to add the asterisk This => *06:07
Tangelo_oh. I'll try again . oops06:07
FritigernThings happen :-)06:07
Tangelo_for some reason I can't seem to paste it here.06:11
FritigernHow many files does it list?06:11
Tangelo_i'll type it in06:11
Fritigernok06:11
Tangelo_3 files06:12
FritigernOnly 3? That should have been fine then.06:12
Tangelo_oh I take that back it looks like 606:13
FritigernWhat is the lowest number in the file name that you see? For me it's initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic so I would tell you that 16 is the oldest that I have06:14
Tangelo_yep. same06:15
Tangelo_highest is /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-22-generic06:15
FritigernThe highest for me is 27, but I have additional repos enabled06:16
FritigernHmmm... Let;s see, so you have 16, 22, which other numbers?06:16
Tangelo_17, 18, 19 and 2106:17
FritigernI would like you do remove 16 and 17 by using sudo rm initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic06:18
FritigernAgain, this is NOT the recommended method, but we are trying to free up space so that you can get things working again06:19
Tangelo_ok I'll paste that in06:19
FritigernI'm going after the two oldest, because they will most likely be removed by autoremove anyway.06:20
Tangelo_I got 'rm: cannot remove ‘initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic’: No such file or directory' does it need the '/boot/' before the initrd.img ?06:22
FritigernYou are 100% correct. It should be sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic06:24
Tangelo_ok trying again06:24
Tangelo_ok :) there gone. now I just have 18, 19, 21 and 2206:29
FritigernOkay, now try `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove` again06:30
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valoriepasting into the cli you have to use control + shift + v06:31
valoriesame with copy -- control + shift + c06:31
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Tangelo_looks promising. system notifier says to reboot to complete. Let me see if I can get back to this webpage on my other machine before I do that06:35
FritigernRemember that at the moment, all that has been done is free up some space on your PC, it's not been updated yet06:37
FritigernI make it a habit of using  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove so as to make sure that no ancient files stay behind.06:39
Tangelo_oh. hahaha. I'm writing that down by the mache here06:40
Tangelo_*machine06:40
Tangelo_ok. So should I run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove' now?06:47
FritigernYes, it should install the files that failed to install before, and this is what you would want :-)06:48
Tangelo_ok I'll run that now06:48
abeztasoma#help06:50
abeztasomahow we get in login root in kubuntu?06:50
abeztasomathanks06:50
valorie!root06:50
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:50
valorieplease don't try to login as root06:51
valoriethat is a great way to wreck your system06:51
abeztasomano06:51
abeztasomabut login with user root06:51
rwwDon't, it's a bad idea.06:52
abeztasomaok ok06:52
abeztasomaso how we move folder in root06:52
abeztasomacant acces to move it06:53
rwwuse sudo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:53
valorie!sudo06:53
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo06:53
valorieremember that if you are using a gui application, don't use sudo; use kdesudo06:53
abeztasomaok thanks gaesss06:55
valoriebut can you tell us what you want to move, and why?06:55
valoriemost stuff in / never needs moving06:55
valorieI've never moved a root folder in well over 10 years06:56
Tangelo_<Fritigern>Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed06:56
Tangelo_<Fritigern> Looks right?06:57
FritigernActually, not a good thing but not as horrible as a full harddisk06:57
FritigernTo be honest, I don;t know why its not empty. we never touched the folder06:58
abeztasomamy folder download is full06:58
Fritigern*that folder06:58
Fritigernabeztasoma: Remove stuff from your download folder. It's your folder, so you are the owner of the files.06:59
FritigernAnd if YOU are the owner, then YOU can remove the files07:00
valoriedownload folder is not owned by root; that is in your home07:00
abeztasomayapppp...but all is fulll07:00
valorieyou can move it without sudo07:00
valorieor remove files07:01
abeztasomahow about remove with ftp07:01
Oderushi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?07:02
abeztasomaok enough gaesss07:03
abeztasomathanks fir all07:03
valorieabeztasoma: certainly you can ftp, or sftp, sc, etc.07:03
Tangelo_So ahh what do I do about the 'not empty so not removed' thing. How bad is it?07:06
valoriewhen you can get autoclean and autoremove to work, if it should be gone, it will be07:07
Tangelo_the lines above read 'he following packages will be REMOVED:   linux-headers-4.2.0-25 linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic'07:10
Tangelo_but then says 'Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed'07:10
FritigernI don;t think it's all that bad. I think you can safely ignore that for now.07:13
Tangelo_ok cool. I'll give it a reeboot and see where its at07:14
FritigernHowever, do not forget about it. You may want to investigate what files are left in that folder at your own pace. So there's no rush, but in order to keep a clean system , it would be a good idea to fix this issue.07:14
TangeloAlsoI'll look into it soon. It's booting up.07:17
Fritigerncool07:17
TangeloAlsoAwesome guys! Thank you!!!!! It's up to date and I can get software again!! thanks a million.07:22
FritigernHappy to have helped. Remember to keep using autoremove!07:22
valorie\o/07:23
TangeloAlsobye guys thanks again07:36
lionel_Nice !08:13
lionel_Hi everyone !08:13
valoriewhat can we help you with, lionel_?08:15
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roanHello, i just installed kubuntu 15.04 but i got some issue with the deskop as random freeze, slow, and right now i got the taskbar icon not updating, can someone help me ?08:31
iancHello, anyone know anything about wine and kubuntu 15.10?08:32
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valorieroan: why 15.04?08:35
valorieit is not longer being support08:35
valorieI suggest updating and upgrading08:35
roanmy bad i mean valorie: 15.1008:36
valorie!wine | ianc08:36
ubottuianc: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu08:36
valoriehmmm, I'm using 15.1008:36
roani got the latest, just installed it an hour ago08:37
iancOK, thanks ubottu08:37
valorieand personally, I would add backports ppa08:37
valorieit improved things for me08:37
lionel__I've got Linux Mint08:37
roanvalorie : backports ppa ? i'm kinda noob :/08:38
valoriehttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-3/08:38
valoriein the commandline: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports08:39
roanthx08:40
valorielionel__: we don08:40
valoriet support mint here08:40
lionel__Ah !08:41
lionel__But I've got good news.08:42
lionel__I don't have Windows Microsoft.08:42
valorieheh08:42
valorieme either08:42
roanbrb need to reboot08:46
lionel_n09:13
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roahvalorie : After i added the backport and updated everything i couldn't start, well i got black screen... i do reinstalled everything09:40
valorieI should have told you about ppa-purge first09:41
valorie:(09:41
valorie!ppa-purge09:41
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html09:41
roahi didn't removed anything, i just did "ppa-add" -> "apt-get update" -> "apt-get upgrade" -> reboot09:44
roahdid i need to remove something ?09:44
valorieyou said you reinstalled everything?09:45
roahyeah, first start currently09:45
valorieit is apt-add-repository, which I assume is what you mean09:45
roahyeah09:46
valorieso you upgraded, restarted and now you have a black screen?09:48
roahno right now im back to the original issue09:48
valorieah09:48
valoriesorry, I'm on my way to sleep09:49
valoriesomebody else will have to take over09:49
valorieperhaps lordievader when he gets here09:49
roahwell, i upgraded, restarted, got the black screen so i reistalled everything and now i'm back to the original issue09:49
roahok, thx for you help ^^09:49
valoriesorry that backports didn't work out for you09:50
roahim trying out again09:51
roahneed to reboot brb and good night :D09:51
valoriety09:52
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h_boyzBuongiorno. Dopo aggiornamento non funziona più il touchpad, kubuntu 14.04 non rileva i driver synaptic10:58
TheOneRinghi whats the channel for the daily builds? https://paste.kde.org/phkbpaa9p this is the error the installer gives me11:01
TheOneRingill try the gtk frontend11:04
roahHello (again), can someone help me solve random black screen issue, still have the mouse working11:09
BluesKajHi all11:48
lordievaderGood afternoon.12:04
ponchalehi14:33
ponchalesome connected now?14:33
ponchaleI need help14:35
ponchalehi14:41
ponchaleI have a question14:41
ponchalesome?14:41
MylonThe "disable touchpad while typing" setting doesn't work.  :(15:35
MylonMy mouse keeps wandering around and clicking on stuff while I'm trying to type.15:36
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DarinMillerMylon: I sympathize with your touchpad issues.  I have attempted to configure 4 differnt laptop and only one of them really "works".  The best work around for me is to disable the touchpad when mice are plugged or set a hot key to turn the touchpad off/on.15:53
DarinMillerAs I mentioned last week, those same touchpads do not perform any better under libinput (the new Wayland/xorg input driver).15:55
MylonI dunno, it seems like a simple bug that can be fix?  "Has a key been pressed in last 0.25s?  Then don't move the mouse!"15:58
ponchaleSomeone to installed polkit in ubuntu to install the KDE framework16:00
DarinMillerMylon: I agree, I am sure these are all fixable.  Some of these issues are config issues ,some are bugs and some are just plain quirks of a particular touchpad.16:02
DarinMillerMylon More googling pad while typing issue I found this: syndaemon -i 1 -K -R -d16:36
DarinMillerSee http://askubuntu.com/questions/367963/ubuntu-on-lenovo-yoga-2-pro (cruise down to Clickpad Disable While Typing section).16:37
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mefistoI installed windows 10 today and was surprised to find grub still working. Is this grub2 doing that, or win10 respecting grub users?18:04
BluesKajmefisto, sometimes grub gets installed on the linux partition as well the windows MBR on older sytems or the UEFI boot partition on newer ones18:09
BluesKajas well as18:09
MylonThat console command worked!  Though I wonder why the touchpad widget doesn't use command when you change the setting.18:25
BluesKajMylon, what command?18:26
MylonThe one DarinMiller said in chat.  Syndaemon18:27
BluesKajoh, I wasn't here18:27
MylonThat properly disables the touchpad while typing, but the touchpad KDE widget.18:28
MylonErr, the touchpad KDE widget to disable touchpad while typing does not.18:28
est31hello19:05
est31I get krunner crashes every time i log in19:06
est31is there a way to debug?19:06
BluesKajest31, the method I found that works is avoid using the mouse to highlight or choose the entry, use the enter key instead19:08
est31BluesKaj, which entry?19:09
BluesKajthe one you put into krunner19:09
BluesKajalso to show the history of previous entries use the down arrow key to get a drop down list19:10
BluesKajest31,^19:11
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est31okay reconnected from weston19:12
est31now I can log out19:12
est31on kde19:12
BluesKajusing weston? why?19:12
est31bc I use hexchat19:13
est31otherwise I have to leave19:13
BluesKajkonversation is still the best on kde IMO19:13
est31okay logged out from kde19:13
est31what should I do now19:14
est31mhh seems I get a plasma crash at login too19:15
BluesKajwell fooling with weston or wayland  etc is iffy with the new plasmas ..gotta expect that19:19
est31well idk what's the crash cause19:29
est31but it crashes reproducibly19:29
est31perhaps first plasma crashes, then krunner doesnt expect it and it crashes too19:30
est31aha19:38
est31aha19:38
est31it tries to call QPlatformScreen::physicalSize19:38
est31but that then calls __cxa_pure_virtual19:39
est31so it seems somehow there is a mismatch19:39
est31why hasnt the compiler noticed this19:39
est31dynamic loading?19:39
frantisekexit19:40
est31<BluesKaj> the one you put into krunner <---- I never had any interaction with krunner19:43
est31I just log in19:43
est31and upon login, both plasma and krunner crash19:44
BluesKajest31, which OS and plasma version?19:45
est31BluesKaj, OS is kubuntu 15.10 wily19:47
est31and plasma version...19:48
est31lemme see19:48
BluesKajplasmashell -v for plasma version19:48
est315.4.219:48
BluesKajest31, suggest you update and upgrade, then dist-upgrade , your plasma is old now19:51
est31BluesKaj, kubuntu 16.04 isnt out yet, is it?19:52
est31or do i have to be on rolling release for my bugs to be valid19:52
est31just ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade19:53
est31nothing to be updated19:53
OerHeksdist-upgrade does not bring 16.0419:53
BluesKajI'm running 16.04 ,but it's still in devel , but the krunner crash is still not fixed19:53
est31I see19:54
BluesKajOerHeks, i didn't suggest he upgrade to 16.0419:54
BluesKajest31, run apt upgrade as well19:55
est31nothing happened19:55
BluesKajhmm , I thought plasma 5.4.3 was defaulkt in 15.10 already19:57
BluesKajit fixes some bugs19:57
est31BluesKaj, slightly unrelated: can you review patches?19:58
BluesKajest31, check launchpad19:59
est31ok, nvm then20:00
DarinMillerBluesKaj and est31, 5.4.3 is currently available in the backports landing PPA for 15.10.  You may want to wait a few days for the landing packages to move to regular backports. (or try landing if you don't mind the "adventure")20:08
est31Thanks for informing20:10
est31I'll be patient :)20:10
BluesKajDarinMiller, right, I'm on 16.04 with the landing ppa in my sources20:11
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XLRHey guys, I have installed DoTA 2 from STeam and whener I hit play, it says it's running but I do not see anything in the task bar. In system monitor it is using not much memory. Any help would be thoroughly appreciated. Thanks.21:53
wxlsomeone help me :( my screen 2 panel is obscuring the screen 1 panel and now i can't even move it with panel settings because the gui comes up and then promptly disappears21:59
DarinMillerwxi: What if you unplug one of the screens and the bring up system settings?22:13

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