[01:59] <Oderus> hi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?
[02:08] <valorie> the one as you are loading up is plymough
[02:08] <valorie> plymouth
[02:08] <valorie> not sure what other splash you are referring to
[02:10] <valorie> I believe the one in the systemsettings is chosen by Kubuntu, but I'm not sure about that
[03:09] <keithzg> valorie: I think Oderus was just talking about the Plasma splash screen on login.
[04:40] <Tangelo_> Hi. Is this where I can get some help with Kubuntu?
[04:40] <Tangelo_> Hi. I've been having some trouble with Kubuntu lately. It will not update either through Muon or using the terminal. I get errors. Consistently : Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic
[04:40] <Tangelo_> When using Muon it says: “Mark additional changes. This action requires changes to other packages:  Remove linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic
[04:41] <Tangelo_> I hit ok. Provide my password and get the following error.  An error occurred while applying changes. The details are blank.  I have tried autoremove in the terminal but no luck. Can you help?
[05:23] <valorie> Tangelo_: try `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:24] <valorie> if you continue to get errors, try `sudo apt install -f` where f = fix
[05:30] <Tangelo_> Thank you valorie. I'll give that a try
[05:33] <valorie> I do use autoremove, but only after I've logged in and ensured that the new kernel is working well
[05:33] <Fritigern> Tangelo_: Without knowing your system, i would guess (und this is only a guess) that your boot pertition is full. If that's the case, do "sudo apt autoremove"
[05:34] <Fritigern> Hey! How dare you beat me to it, val? :-) :-) :-)
[05:35] <valorie> ha
[05:35] <valorie> or better yet, `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[05:35] <valorie> Fritigern: good point about the full boot partition though
[05:35] <valorie> I guess that was a bug for awhile
[05:37] <Tangelo_> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade returned the following:  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-23-generic_4.2.0-23.28_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-25-generic_4.2.0-25.30_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:38] <Tangelo_> I'll try `sudo apt install -f`
[05:40] <Fritigern> I usually get that error when a package is corrupt. sudo apt-get clean usually fixes that for me.
[05:40] <valorie> you don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right?
[05:41] <Fritigern> valorie: Was that a question for me or for Tangelo_ ?
[05:42] <Tangelo_> you don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right? ahhhh I don't think so
[05:43] <valorie> you would remember
[05:46] <Tangelo_> No luck with the 'sudo apt install -f'  Trying `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[05:48] <Fritigern> After that has completed without errors (fingers crossed), make sure to re-run `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:49] <valorie> Tangelo_: remember your up-arrow in the konsole
[05:49] <valorie> huge timesaver
[05:49] <Tangelo_> Oh man the "without errors" part didn't work out. I got the following
[05:50] <Tangelo_> gzip: stdout: No space left on device E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1 update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-25-generic with 1. run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1 dpkg: error processing package linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic (--remove):  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra
[05:50] <Fritigern> Yup, same deal as I had
[05:50] <Fritigern> I had to manually remove a few of the oldest kenels from the boot partition before it would let me perform autoclean
[05:51] <Fritigern> Do not that removing stuff by hand is NOT recommended!
[05:52] <Fritigern> *not = note
[05:53] <Tangelo_> Oy, arrow up in konsole. I guess I should not admit it but I had no idea about that. you just saved me lots of time in the future
[05:53] <Fritigern> Tangelo_: Are you also aware of tab completion?
[05:54] <Tangelo_> nope
[05:55] <Fritigern> You can type part of a program name, then hit tab to fill out the rest of the name. If there are more than one programs that match, then a second tap on the tab will show you the available options
[05:56] <Fritigern> For example, if you type "systems" then hit tab, it should automaticlly expand to "systemsettings5"
[05:58] <Tangelo_> oy, I just tryed that. I think my room actuually got brighter. thank you
[05:58] <Fritigern> However, back to the problem at hand. I wish i knew what kernels are installed on your system and where they are put. In my case they were placed in a 250mb partition, I don;t know if you have such a partition
[05:59] <Tangelo_> I don't know
[06:01] <Fritigern> Could you show me what the outpput is of  ls /boot/initrd.*
[06:04] <Tangelo_> cannot access /boot/initrd: No such file or directory
[06:07] <Fritigern> You've forgot to add the asterisk This => *
[06:07] <Tangelo_> oh. I'll try again . oops
[06:07] <Fritigern> Things happen :-)
[06:11] <Tangelo_> for some reason I can't seem to paste it here.
[06:11] <Fritigern> How many files does it list?
[06:11] <Tangelo_> i'll type it in
[06:11] <Fritigern> ok
[06:12] <Tangelo_> 3 files
[06:12] <Fritigern> Only 3? That should have been fine then.
[06:13] <Tangelo_> oh I take that back it looks like 6
[06:14] <Fritigern> What is the lowest number in the file name that you see? For me it's initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic so I would tell you that 16 is the oldest that I have
[06:15] <Tangelo_> yep. same
[06:15] <Tangelo_> highest is /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-22-generic
[06:16] <Fritigern> The highest for me is 27, but I have additional repos enabled
[06:16] <Fritigern> Hmmm... Let;s see, so you have 16, 22, which other numbers?
[06:17] <Tangelo_> 17, 18, 19 and 21
[06:18] <Fritigern> I would like you do remove 16 and 17 by using sudo rm initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic
[06:19] <Fritigern> Again, this is NOT the recommended method, but we are trying to free up space so that you can get things working again
[06:19] <Tangelo_> ok I'll paste that in
[06:20] <Fritigern> I'm going after the two oldest, because they will most likely be removed by autoremove anyway.
[06:22] <Tangelo_> I got 'rm: cannot remove ‘initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic’: No such file or directory' does it need the '/boot/' before the initrd.img ?
[06:24] <Fritigern> You are 100% correct. It should be sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic
[06:24] <Tangelo_> ok trying again
[06:29] <Tangelo_> ok :) there gone. now I just have 18, 19, 21 and 22
[06:30] <Fritigern> Okay, now try `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove` again
[06:31] <valorie> pasting into the cli you have to use control + shift + v
[06:31] <valorie> same with copy -- control + shift + c
[06:35] <Tangelo_> looks promising. system notifier says to reboot to complete. Let me see if I can get back to this webpage on my other machine before I do that
[06:37] <Fritigern> Remember that at the moment, all that has been done is free up some space on your PC, it's not been updated yet
[06:39] <Fritigern> I make it a habit of using  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove so as to make sure that no ancient files stay behind.
[06:40] <Tangelo_> oh. hahaha. I'm writing that down by the mache here
[06:40] <Tangelo_> *machine
[06:47] <Tangelo_> ok. So should I run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove' now?
[06:48] <Fritigern> Yes, it should install the files that failed to install before, and this is what you would want :-)
[06:48] <Tangelo_> ok I'll run that now
[06:50] <abeztasoma> #help
[06:50] <abeztasoma> how we get in login root in kubuntu?
[06:50] <abeztasoma> thanks
[06:50] <valorie> !root
[06:51] <valorie> please don't try to login as root
[06:51] <valorie> that is a great way to wreck your system
[06:51] <abeztasoma> no
[06:51] <abeztasoma> but login with user root
[06:52] <rww> Don't, it's a bad idea.
[06:52] <abeztasoma> ok ok
[06:52] <abeztasoma> so how we move folder in root
[06:53] <abeztasoma> cant acces to move it
[06:53] <rww> use sudo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:53] <valorie> !sudo
[06:53] <valorie> remember that if you are using a gui application, don't use sudo; use kdesudo
[06:55] <abeztasoma> ok thanks gaesss
[06:55] <valorie> but can you tell us what you want to move, and why?
[06:55] <valorie> most stuff in / never needs moving
[06:56] <valorie> I've never moved a root folder in well over 10 years
Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed
 Looks right?
[06:57] <Fritigern> Actually, not a good thing but not as horrible as a full harddisk
[06:58] <Fritigern> To be honest, I don;t know why its not empty. we never touched the folder
[06:58] <abeztasoma> my folder download is full
[06:58] <Fritigern> *that folder
[06:59] <Fritigern> abeztasoma: Remove stuff from your download folder. It's your folder, so you are the owner of the files.
[07:00] <Fritigern> And if YOU are the owner, then YOU can remove the files
[07:00] <valorie> download folder is not owned by root; that is in your home
[07:00] <abeztasoma> yapppp...but all is fulll
[07:00] <valorie> you can move it without sudo
[07:01] <valorie> or remove files
[07:01] <abeztasoma> how about remove with ftp
[07:02] <Oderus> hi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?
[07:03] <abeztasoma> ok enough gaesss
[07:03] <abeztasoma> thanks fir all
[07:03] <valorie> abeztasoma: certainly you can ftp, or sftp, sc, etc.
[07:06] <Tangelo_> So ahh what do I do about the 'not empty so not removed' thing. How bad is it?
[07:07] <valorie> when you can get autoclean and autoremove to work, if it should be gone, it will be
[07:10] <Tangelo_> the lines above read 'he following packages will be REMOVED:   linux-headers-4.2.0-25 linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic'
[07:10] <Tangelo_> but then says 'Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed'
[07:13] <Fritigern> I don;t think it's all that bad. I think you can safely ignore that for now.
[07:14] <Tangelo_> ok cool. I'll give it a reeboot and see where its at
[07:14] <Fritigern> However, do not forget about it. You may want to investigate what files are left in that folder at your own pace. So there's no rush, but in order to keep a clean system , it would be a good idea to fix this issue.
[07:17] <TangeloAlso> I'll look into it soon. It's booting up.
[07:17] <Fritigern> cool
[07:22] <TangeloAlso> Awesome guys! Thank you!!!!! It's up to date and I can get software again!! thanks a million.
[07:22] <Fritigern> Happy to have helped. Remember to keep using autoremove!
[07:23] <valorie> \o/
[07:36] <TangeloAlso> bye guys thanks again
[08:13] <lionel_> Nice !
[08:13] <lionel_> Hi everyone !
[08:15] <valorie> what can we help you with, lionel_?
[08:31] <roan> Hello, i just installed kubuntu 15.04 but i got some issue with the deskop as random freeze, slow, and right now i got the taskbar icon not updating, can someone help me ?
[08:32] <ianc> Hello, anyone know anything about wine and kubuntu 15.10?
[08:35] <valorie> roan: why 15.04?
[08:35] <valorie> it is not longer being support
[08:35] <valorie> I suggest updating and upgrading
[08:36] <roan> my bad i mean valorie: 15.10
[08:36] <valorie> !wine | ianc
[08:36] <valorie> hmmm, I'm using 15.10
[08:37] <roan> i got the latest, just installed it an hour ago
[08:37] <ianc> OK, thanks ubottu
[08:37] <valorie> and personally, I would add backports ppa
[08:37] <valorie> it improved things for me
[08:37] <lionel__> I've got Linux Mint
[08:38] <roan> valorie : backports ppa ? i'm kinda noob :/
[08:38] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-3/
[08:39] <valorie> in the commandline: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[08:40] <roan> thx
[08:40] <valorie> lionel__: we don
[08:40] <valorie> t support mint here
[08:41] <lionel__> Ah !
[08:42] <lionel__> But I've got good news.
[08:42] <lionel__> I don't have Windows Microsoft.
[08:42] <valorie> heh
[08:42] <valorie> me either
[08:46] <roan> brb need to reboot
[09:13] <lionel_> n
[09:40] <roah> valorie : After i added the backport and updated everything i couldn't start, well i got black screen... i do reinstalled everything
[09:41] <valorie> I should have told you about ppa-purge first
[09:41] <valorie> :(
[09:41] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[09:44] <roah> i didn't removed anything, i just did "ppa-add" -> "apt-get update" -> "apt-get upgrade" -> reboot
[09:44] <roah> did i need to remove something ?
[09:45] <valorie> you said you reinstalled everything?
[09:45] <roah> yeah, first start currently
[09:45] <valorie> it is apt-add-repository, which I assume is what you mean
[09:46] <roah> yeah
[09:48] <valorie> so you upgraded, restarted and now you have a black screen?
[09:48] <roah> no right now im back to the original issue
[09:48] <valorie> ah
[09:49] <valorie> sorry, I'm on my way to sleep
[09:49] <valorie> somebody else will have to take over
[09:49] <valorie> perhaps lordievader when he gets here
[09:49] <roah> well, i upgraded, restarted, got the black screen so i reistalled everything and now i'm back to the original issue
[09:49] <roah> ok, thx for you help ^^
[09:50] <valorie> sorry that backports didn't work out for you
[09:51] <roah> im trying out again
[09:51] <roah> need to reboot brb and good night :D
[09:52] <valorie> ty
[10:58] <h_boyz> Buongiorno. Dopo aggiornamento non funziona più il touchpad, kubuntu 14.04 non rileva i driver synaptic
[11:01] <TheOneRing> hi whats the channel for the daily builds? https://paste.kde.org/phkbpaa9p this is the error the installer gives me
[11:04] <TheOneRing> ill try the gtk frontend
[11:09] <roah> Hello (again), can someone help me solve random black screen issue, still have the mouse working
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:33] <ponchale> hi
[14:33] <ponchale> some connected now?
[14:35] <ponchale> I need help
[14:41] <ponchale> hi
[14:41] <ponchale> I have a question
[14:41] <ponchale> some?
[15:35] <Mylon> The "disable touchpad while typing" setting doesn't work.  :(
[15:36] <Mylon> My mouse keeps wandering around and clicking on stuff while I'm trying to type.
[15:53] <DarinMiller> Mylon: I sympathize with your touchpad issues.  I have attempted to configure 4 differnt laptop and only one of them really "works".  The best work around for me is to disable the touchpad when mice are plugged or set a hot key to turn the touchpad off/on.
[15:55] <DarinMiller> As I mentioned last week, those same touchpads do not perform any better under libinput (the new Wayland/xorg input driver).
[15:58] <Mylon> I dunno, it seems like a simple bug that can be fix?  "Has a key been pressed in last 0.25s?  Then don't move the mouse!"
[16:00] <ponchale> Someone to installed polkit in ubuntu to install the KDE framework
[16:02] <DarinMiller> Mylon: I agree, I am sure these are all fixable.  Some of these issues are config issues ,some are bugs and some are just plain quirks of a particular touchpad.
[16:36] <DarinMiller> Mylon More googling pad while typing issue I found this: syndaemon -i 1 -K -R -d
[16:37] <DarinMiller> See http://askubuntu.com/questions/367963/ubuntu-on-lenovo-yoga-2-pro (cruise down to Clickpad Disable While Typing section).
[18:04] <mefisto> I installed windows 10 today and was surprised to find grub still working. Is this grub2 doing that, or win10 respecting grub users?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> mefisto, sometimes grub gets installed on the linux partition as well the windows MBR on older sytems or the UEFI boot partition on newer ones
[18:09] <BluesKaj> as well as
[18:25] <Mylon> That console command worked!  Though I wonder why the touchpad widget doesn't use command when you change the setting.
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Mylon, what command?
[18:27] <Mylon> The one DarinMiller said in chat.  Syndaemon
[18:27] <BluesKaj> oh, I wasn't here
[18:28] <Mylon> That properly disables the touchpad while typing, but the touchpad KDE widget.
[18:28] <Mylon> Err, the touchpad KDE widget to disable touchpad while typing does not.
[19:05] <est31> hello
[19:06] <est31> I get krunner crashes every time i log in
[19:06] <est31> is there a way to debug?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> est31, the method I found that works is avoid using the mouse to highlight or choose the entry, use the enter key instead
[19:09] <est31> BluesKaj, which entry?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> the one you put into krunner
[19:10] <BluesKaj> also to show the history of previous entries use the down arrow key to get a drop down list
[19:11] <BluesKaj> est31,^
[19:12] <est31> okay reconnected from weston
[19:12] <est31> now I can log out
[19:12] <est31> on kde
[19:12] <BluesKaj> using weston? why?
[19:13] <est31> bc I use hexchat
[19:13] <est31> otherwise I have to leave
[19:13] <BluesKaj> konversation is still the best on kde IMO
[19:13] <est31> okay logged out from kde
[19:14] <est31> what should I do now
[19:15] <est31> mhh seems I get a plasma crash at login too
[19:19] <BluesKaj> well fooling with weston or wayland  etc is iffy with the new plasmas ..gotta expect that
[19:29] <est31> well idk what's the crash cause
[19:29] <est31> but it crashes reproducibly
[19:30] <est31> perhaps first plasma crashes, then krunner doesnt expect it and it crashes too
[19:38] <est31> aha
[19:38] <est31> aha
[19:38] <est31> it tries to call QPlatformScreen::physicalSize
[19:39] <est31> but that then calls __cxa_pure_virtual
[19:39] <est31> so it seems somehow there is a mismatch
[19:39] <est31> why hasnt the compiler noticed this
[19:39] <est31> dynamic loading?
[19:40] <frantisek> exit
 the one you put into krunner <---- I never had any interaction with krunner
[19:43] <est31> I just log in
[19:44] <est31> and upon login, both plasma and krunner crash
[19:45] <BluesKaj> est31, which OS and plasma version?
[19:47] <est31> BluesKaj, OS is kubuntu 15.10 wily
[19:48] <est31> and plasma version...
[19:48] <est31> lemme see
[19:48] <BluesKaj> plasmashell -v for plasma version
[19:48] <est31> 5.4.2
[19:51] <BluesKaj> est31, suggest you update and upgrade, then dist-upgrade , your plasma is old now
[19:52] <est31> BluesKaj, kubuntu 16.04 isnt out yet, is it?
[19:52] <est31> or do i have to be on rolling release for my bugs to be valid
[19:53] <est31> just ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:53] <est31> nothing to be updated
[19:53] <OerHeks> dist-upgrade does not bring 16.04
[19:53] <BluesKaj> I'm running 16.04 ,but it's still in devel , but the krunner crash is still not fixed
[19:54] <est31> I see
[19:54] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, i didn't suggest he upgrade to 16.04
[19:55] <BluesKaj> est31, run apt upgrade as well
[19:55] <est31> nothing happened
[19:57] <BluesKaj> hmm , I thought plasma 5.4.3 was defaulkt in 15.10 already
[19:57] <BluesKaj> it fixes some bugs
[19:58] <est31> BluesKaj, slightly unrelated: can you review patches?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> est31, check launchpad
[20:00] <est31> ok, nvm then
[20:08] <DarinMiller> BluesKaj and est31, 5.4.3 is currently available in the backports landing PPA for 15.10.  You may want to wait a few days for the landing packages to move to regular backports. (or try landing if you don't mind the "adventure")
[20:10] <est31> Thanks for informing
[20:10] <est31> I'll be patient :)
[20:11] <BluesKaj> DarinMiller, right, I'm on 16.04 with the landing ppa in my sources
[20:21] <robciuz_bcv> b
[21:53] <XLR> Hey guys, I have installed DoTA 2 from STeam and whener I hit play, it says it's running but I do not see anything in the task bar. In system monitor it is using not much memory. Any help would be thoroughly appreciated. Thanks.
[21:59] <wxl> someone help me :( my screen 2 panel is obscuring the screen 1 panel and now i can't even move it with panel settings because the gui comes up and then promptly disappears
[22:13] <DarinMiller> wxi: What if you unplug one of the screens and the bring up system settings?