[01:59] <Oderus> hi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?
[02:08] <valorie> the one as you are loading up is plymough
[02:08] <valorie> plymouth
[02:08] <valorie> not sure what other splash you are referring to
[02:10] <valorie> I believe the one in the systemsettings is chosen by Kubuntu, but I'm not sure about that
[03:09] <keithzg> valorie: I think Oderus was just talking about the Plasma splash screen on login.
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[04:40] <Tangelo_> Hi. Is this where I can get some help with Kubuntu?
[04:40] <Tangelo_> Hi. I've been having some trouble with Kubuntu lately. It will not update either through Muon or using the terminal. I get errors. Consistently : Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic  linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic
[04:40] <Tangelo_> When using Muon it says: “Mark additional changes. This action requires changes to other packages:  Remove linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic
[04:41] <Tangelo_> I hit ok. Provide my password and get the following error.  An error occurred while applying changes. The details are blank.  I have tried autoremove in the terminal but no luck. Can you help?
[05:23] <valorie> Tangelo_: try `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:24] <valorie> if you continue to get errors, try `sudo apt install -f` where f = fix
[05:30] <Tangelo_> Thank you valorie. I'll give that a try
[05:33] <valorie> I do use autoremove, but only after I've logged in and ensured that the new kernel is working well
[05:33] <Fritigern> Tangelo_: Without knowing your system, i would guess (und this is only a guess) that your boot pertition is full. If that's the case, do "sudo apt autoremove"
[05:34] <Fritigern> Hey! How dare you beat me to it, val? :-) :-) :-)
[05:35] <valorie> ha
[05:35] <valorie> or better yet, `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[05:35] <valorie> Fritigern: good point about the full boot partition though
[05:35] <valorie> I guess that was a bug for awhile
[05:37] <Tangelo_> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade returned the following:  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-23-generic_4.2.0-23.28_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.2.0-25-generic_4.2.0-25.30_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:38] <Tangelo_> I'll try `sudo apt install -f`
[05:40] <Fritigern> I usually get that error when a package is corrupt. sudo apt-get clean usually fixes that for me.
[05:40] <valorie> you don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right?
[05:41] <Fritigern> valorie: Was that a question for me or for Tangelo_ ?
[05:42] <Tangelo_> you don't have any special PPAs with kernels, right? ahhhh I don't think so
[05:43] <valorie> you would remember
[05:46] <Tangelo_> No luck with the 'sudo apt install -f'  Trying `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[05:48] <Fritigern> After that has completed without errors (fingers crossed), make sure to re-run `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:49] <valorie> Tangelo_: remember your up-arrow in the konsole
[05:49] <valorie> huge timesaver
[05:49] <Tangelo_> Oh man the "without errors" part didn't work out. I got the following
[05:50] <Tangelo_> gzip: stdout: No space left on device E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1 update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-25-generic with 1. run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1 dpkg: error processing package linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic (--remove):  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra
[05:50] <Fritigern> Yup, same deal as I had
[05:50] <Fritigern> I had to manually remove a few of the oldest kenels from the boot partition before it would let me perform autoclean
[05:51] <Fritigern> Do not that removing stuff by hand is NOT recommended!
[05:52] <Fritigern> *not = note
[05:53] <Tangelo_> Oy, arrow up in konsole. I guess I should not admit it but I had no idea about that. you just saved me lots of time in the future
[05:53] <Fritigern> Tangelo_: Are you also aware of tab completion?
[05:54] <Tangelo_> nope
[05:55] <Fritigern> You can type part of a program name, then hit tab to fill out the rest of the name. If there are more than one programs that match, then a second tap on the tab will show you the available options
[05:56] <Fritigern> For example, if you type "systems" then hit tab, it should automaticlly expand to "systemsettings5"
[05:58] <Tangelo_> oy, I just tryed that. I think my room actuually got brighter. thank you
[05:58] <Fritigern> However, back to the problem at hand. I wish i knew what kernels are installed on your system and where they are put. In my case they were placed in a 250mb partition, I don;t know if you have such a partition
[05:59] <Tangelo_> I don't know
[06:01] <Fritigern> Could you show me what the outpput is of  ls /boot/initrd.*
[06:04] <Tangelo_> cannot access /boot/initrd: No such file or directory
[06:07] <Fritigern> You've forgot to add the asterisk This => *
[06:07] <Tangelo_> oh. I'll try again . oops
[06:07] <Fritigern> Things happen :-)
[06:11] <Tangelo_> for some reason I can't seem to paste it here.
[06:11] <Fritigern> How many files does it list?
[06:11] <Tangelo_> i'll type it in
[06:11] <Fritigern> ok
[06:12] <Tangelo_> 3 files
[06:12] <Fritigern> Only 3? That should have been fine then.
[06:13] <Tangelo_> oh I take that back it looks like 6
[06:14] <Fritigern> What is the lowest number in the file name that you see? For me it's initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic so I would tell you that 16 is the oldest that I have
[06:15] <Tangelo_> yep. same
[06:15] <Tangelo_> highest is /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-22-generic
[06:16] <Fritigern> The highest for me is 27, but I have additional repos enabled
[06:16] <Fritigern> Hmmm... Let;s see, so you have 16, 22, which other numbers?
[06:17] <Tangelo_> 17, 18, 19 and 21
[06:18] <Fritigern> I would like you do remove 16 and 17 by using sudo rm initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic
[06:19] <Fritigern> Again, this is NOT the recommended method, but we are trying to free up space so that you can get things working again
[06:19] <Tangelo_> ok I'll paste that in
[06:20] <Fritigern> I'm going after the two oldest, because they will most likely be removed by autoremove anyway.
[06:22] <Tangelo_> I got 'rm: cannot remove ‘initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic’: No such file or directory' does it need the '/boot/' before the initrd.img ?
[06:24] <Fritigern> You are 100% correct. It should be sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-17-generic
[06:24] <Tangelo_> ok trying again
[06:29] <Tangelo_> ok :) there gone. now I just have 18, 19, 21 and 22
[06:30] <Fritigern> Okay, now try `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove` again
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[06:31] <valorie> pasting into the cli you have to use control + shift + v
[06:31] <valorie> same with copy -- control + shift + c
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[06:35] <Tangelo_> looks promising. system notifier says to reboot to complete. Let me see if I can get back to this webpage on my other machine before I do that
[06:37] <Fritigern> Remember that at the moment, all that has been done is free up some space on your PC, it's not been updated yet
[06:39] <Fritigern> I make it a habit of using  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove so as to make sure that no ancient files stay behind.
[06:40] <Tangelo_> oh. hahaha. I'm writing that down by the mache here
[06:40] <Tangelo_> *machine
[06:47] <Tangelo_> ok. So should I run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove' now?
[06:48] <Fritigern> Yes, it should install the files that failed to install before, and this is what you would want :-)
[06:48] <Tangelo_> ok I'll run that now
[06:50] <abeztasoma> #help
[06:50] <abeztasoma> how we get in login root in kubuntu?
[06:50] <abeztasoma> thanks
[06:50] <valorie> !root
[06:50] <ubottu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:51] <valorie> please don't try to login as root
[06:51] <valorie> that is a great way to wreck your system
[06:51] <abeztasoma> no
[06:51] <abeztasoma> but login with user root
[06:52] <rww> Don't, it's a bad idea.
[06:52] <abeztasoma> ok ok
[06:52] <abeztasoma> so how we move folder in root
[06:53] <abeztasoma> cant acces to move it
[06:53] <rww> use sudo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:53] <valorie> !sudo
[06:53] <ubottu> sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[06:53] <valorie> remember that if you are using a gui application, don't use sudo; use kdesudo
[06:55] <abeztasoma> ok thanks gaesss
[06:55] <valorie> but can you tell us what you want to move, and why?
[06:55] <valorie> most stuff in / never needs moving
[06:56] <valorie> I've never moved a root folder in well over 10 years
[06:56] <Tangelo_> <Fritigern>Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed
[06:57] <Tangelo_> <Fritigern> Looks right?
[06:57] <Fritigern> Actually, not a good thing but not as horrible as a full harddisk
[06:58] <Fritigern> To be honest, I don;t know why its not empty. we never touched the folder
[06:58] <abeztasoma> my folder download is full
[06:58] <Fritigern> *that folder
[06:59] <Fritigern> abeztasoma: Remove stuff from your download folder. It's your folder, so you are the owner of the files.
[07:00] <Fritigern> And if YOU are the owner, then YOU can remove the files
[07:00] <valorie> download folder is not owned by root; that is in your home
[07:00] <abeztasoma> yapppp...but all is fulll
[07:00] <valorie> you can move it without sudo
[07:01] <valorie> or remove files
[07:01] <abeztasoma> how about remove with ftp
[07:02] <Oderus> hi. in system settings>workspace theme>splash screen, what program is this or how can i edit these splash themes or get new ones?
[07:03] <abeztasoma> ok enough gaesss
[07:03] <abeztasoma> thanks fir all
[07:03] <valorie> abeztasoma: certainly you can ftp, or sftp, sc, etc.
[07:06] <Tangelo_> So ahh what do I do about the 'not empty so not removed' thing. How bad is it?
[07:07] <valorie> when you can get autoclean and autoremove to work, if it should be gone, it will be
[07:10] <Tangelo_> the lines above read 'he following packages will be REMOVED:   linux-headers-4.2.0-25 linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic'
[07:10] <Tangelo_> but then says 'Removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic (4.2.0-25.30) ... dpkg: warning: while removing linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic, directory '/lib/modules/4.2.0-25-generic' not empty so not removed'
[07:13] <Fritigern> I don;t think it's all that bad. I think you can safely ignore that for now.
[07:14] <Tangelo_> ok cool. I'll give it a reeboot and see where its at
[07:14] <Fritigern> However, do not forget about it. You may want to investigate what files are left in that folder at your own pace. So there's no rush, but in order to keep a clean system , it would be a good idea to fix this issue.
[07:17] <TangeloAlso> I'll look into it soon. It's booting up.
[07:17] <Fritigern> cool
[07:22] <TangeloAlso> Awesome guys! Thank you!!!!! It's up to date and I can get software again!! thanks a million.
[07:22] <Fritigern> Happy to have helped. Remember to keep using autoremove!
[07:23] <valorie> \o/
[07:36] <TangeloAlso> bye guys thanks again
[08:13] <lionel_> Nice !
[08:13] <lionel_> Hi everyone !
[08:15] <valorie> what can we help you with, lionel_?
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[08:31] <roan> Hello, i just installed kubuntu 15.04 but i got some issue with the deskop as random freeze, slow, and right now i got the taskbar icon not updating, can someone help me ?
[08:32] <ianc> Hello, anyone know anything about wine and kubuntu 15.10?
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[08:35] <valorie> roan: why 15.04?
[08:35] <valorie> it is not longer being support
[08:35] <valorie> I suggest updating and upgrading
[08:36] <roan> my bad i mean valorie: 15.10
[08:36] <valorie> !wine | ianc
[08:36] <ubottu> ianc: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[08:36] <valorie> hmmm, I'm using 15.10
[08:37] <roan> i got the latest, just installed it an hour ago
[08:37] <ianc> OK, thanks ubottu
[08:37] <valorie> and personally, I would add backports ppa
[08:37] <valorie> it improved things for me
[08:37] <lionel__> I've got Linux Mint
[08:38] <roan> valorie : backports ppa ? i'm kinda noob :/
[08:38] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-3/
[08:39] <valorie> in the commandline: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[08:40] <roan> thx
[08:40] <valorie> lionel__: we don
[08:40] <valorie> t support mint here
[08:41] <lionel__> Ah !
[08:42] <lionel__> But I've got good news.
[08:42] <lionel__> I don't have Windows Microsoft.
[08:42] <valorie> heh
[08:42] <valorie> me either
[08:46] <roan> brb need to reboot
[09:13] <lionel_> n
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[09:40] <roah> valorie : After i added the backport and updated everything i couldn't start, well i got black screen... i do reinstalled everything
[09:41] <valorie> I should have told you about ppa-purge first
[09:41] <valorie> :(
[09:41] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[09:41] <ubottu> To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[09:44] <roah> i didn't removed anything, i just did "ppa-add" -> "apt-get update" -> "apt-get upgrade" -> reboot
[09:44] <roah> did i need to remove something ?
[09:45] <valorie> you said you reinstalled everything?
[09:45] <roah> yeah, first start currently
[09:45] <valorie> it is apt-add-repository, which I assume is what you mean
[09:46] <roah> yeah
[09:48] <valorie> so you upgraded, restarted and now you have a black screen?
[09:48] <roah> no right now im back to the original issue
[09:48] <valorie> ah
[09:49] <valorie> sorry, I'm on my way to sleep
[09:49] <valorie> somebody else will have to take over
[09:49] <valorie> perhaps lordievader when he gets here
[09:49] <roah> well, i upgraded, restarted, got the black screen so i reistalled everything and now i'm back to the original issue
[09:49] <roah> ok, thx for you help ^^
[09:50] <valorie> sorry that backports didn't work out for you
[09:51] <roah> im trying out again
[09:51] <roah> need to reboot brb and good night :D
[09:52] <valorie> ty
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[10:58] <h_boyz> Buongiorno. Dopo aggiornamento non funziona più il touchpad, kubuntu 14.04 non rileva i driver synaptic
[11:01] <TheOneRing> hi whats the channel for the daily builds? https://paste.kde.org/phkbpaa9p this is the error the installer gives me
[11:04] <TheOneRing> ill try the gtk frontend
[11:09] <roah> Hello (again), can someone help me solve random black screen issue, still have the mouse working
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:33] <ponchale> hi
[14:33] <ponchale> some connected now?
[14:35] <ponchale> I need help
[14:41] <ponchale> hi
[14:41] <ponchale> I have a question
[14:41] <ponchale> some?
[15:35] <Mylon> The "disable touchpad while typing" setting doesn't work.  :(
[15:36] <Mylon> My mouse keeps wandering around and clicking on stuff while I'm trying to type.
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[15:53] <DarinMiller> Mylon: I sympathize with your touchpad issues.  I have attempted to configure 4 differnt laptop and only one of them really "works".  The best work around for me is to disable the touchpad when mice are plugged or set a hot key to turn the touchpad off/on.
[15:55] <DarinMiller> As I mentioned last week, those same touchpads do not perform any better under libinput (the new Wayland/xorg input driver).
[15:58] <Mylon> I dunno, it seems like a simple bug that can be fix?  "Has a key been pressed in last 0.25s?  Then don't move the mouse!"
[16:00] <ponchale> Someone to installed polkit in ubuntu to install the KDE framework
[16:02] <DarinMiller> Mylon: I agree, I am sure these are all fixable.  Some of these issues are config issues ,some are bugs and some are just plain quirks of a particular touchpad.
[16:36] <DarinMiller> Mylon More googling pad while typing issue I found this: syndaemon -i 1 -K -R -d
[16:37] <DarinMiller> See http://askubuntu.com/questions/367963/ubuntu-on-lenovo-yoga-2-pro (cruise down to Clickpad Disable While Typing section).
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[18:04] <mefisto> I installed windows 10 today and was surprised to find grub still working. Is this grub2 doing that, or win10 respecting grub users?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> mefisto, sometimes grub gets installed on the linux partition as well the windows MBR on older sytems or the UEFI boot partition on newer ones
[18:09] <BluesKaj> as well as
[18:25] <Mylon> That console command worked!  Though I wonder why the touchpad widget doesn't use command when you change the setting.
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Mylon, what command?
[18:27] <Mylon> The one DarinMiller said in chat.  Syndaemon
[18:27] <BluesKaj> oh, I wasn't here
[18:28] <Mylon> That properly disables the touchpad while typing, but the touchpad KDE widget.
[18:28] <Mylon> Err, the touchpad KDE widget to disable touchpad while typing does not.
[19:05] <est31> hello
[19:06] <est31> I get krunner crashes every time i log in
[19:06] <est31> is there a way to debug?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> est31, the method I found that works is avoid using the mouse to highlight or choose the entry, use the enter key instead
[19:09] <est31> BluesKaj, which entry?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> the one you put into krunner
[19:10] <BluesKaj> also to show the history of previous entries use the down arrow key to get a drop down list
[19:11] <BluesKaj> est31,^
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[19:12] <est31> okay reconnected from weston
[19:12] <est31> now I can log out
[19:12] <est31> on kde
[19:12] <BluesKaj> using weston? why?
[19:13] <est31> bc I use hexchat
[19:13] <est31> otherwise I have to leave
[19:13] <BluesKaj> konversation is still the best on kde IMO
[19:13] <est31> okay logged out from kde
[19:14] <est31> what should I do now
[19:15] <est31> mhh seems I get a plasma crash at login too
[19:19] <BluesKaj> well fooling with weston or wayland  etc is iffy with the new plasmas ..gotta expect that
[19:29] <est31> well idk what's the crash cause
[19:29] <est31> but it crashes reproducibly
[19:30] <est31> perhaps first plasma crashes, then krunner doesnt expect it and it crashes too
[19:38] <est31> aha
[19:38] <est31> aha
[19:38] <est31> it tries to call QPlatformScreen::physicalSize
[19:39] <est31> but that then calls __cxa_pure_virtual
[19:39] <est31> so it seems somehow there is a mismatch
[19:39] <est31> why hasnt the compiler noticed this
[19:39] <est31> dynamic loading?
[19:40] <frantisek> exit
[19:43] <est31> <BluesKaj> the one you put into krunner <---- I never had any interaction with krunner
[19:43] <est31> I just log in
[19:44] <est31> and upon login, both plasma and krunner crash
[19:45] <BluesKaj> est31, which OS and plasma version?
[19:47] <est31> BluesKaj, OS is kubuntu 15.10 wily
[19:48] <est31> and plasma version...
[19:48] <est31> lemme see
[19:48] <BluesKaj> plasmashell -v for plasma version
[19:48] <est31> 5.4.2
[19:51] <BluesKaj> est31, suggest you update and upgrade, then dist-upgrade , your plasma is old now
[19:52] <est31> BluesKaj, kubuntu 16.04 isnt out yet, is it?
[19:52] <est31> or do i have to be on rolling release for my bugs to be valid
[19:53] <est31> just ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:53] <est31> nothing to be updated
[19:53] <OerHeks> dist-upgrade does not bring 16.04
[19:53] <BluesKaj> I'm running 16.04 ,but it's still in devel , but the krunner crash is still not fixed
[19:54] <est31> I see
[19:54] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, i didn't suggest he upgrade to 16.04
[19:55] <BluesKaj> est31, run apt upgrade as well
[19:55] <est31> nothing happened
[19:57] <BluesKaj> hmm , I thought plasma 5.4.3 was defaulkt in 15.10 already
[19:57] <BluesKaj> it fixes some bugs
[19:58] <est31> BluesKaj, slightly unrelated: can you review patches?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> est31, check launchpad
[20:00] <est31> ok, nvm then
[20:08] <DarinMiller> BluesKaj and est31, 5.4.3 is currently available in the backports landing PPA for 15.10.  You may want to wait a few days for the landing packages to move to regular backports. (or try landing if you don't mind the "adventure")
[20:10] <est31> Thanks for informing
[20:10] <est31> I'll be patient :)
[20:11] <BluesKaj> DarinMiller, right, I'm on 16.04 with the landing ppa in my sources
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[21:53] <XLR> Hey guys, I have installed DoTA 2 from STeam and whener I hit play, it says it's running but I do not see anything in the task bar. In system monitor it is using not much memory. Any help would be thoroughly appreciated. Thanks.
[21:59] <wxl> someone help me :( my screen 2 panel is obscuring the screen 1 panel and now i can't even move it with panel settings because the gui comes up and then promptly disappears
[22:13] <DarinMiller> wxi: What if you unplug one of the screens and the bring up system settings?