[04:39] <waters33637> Question: Webmin has problems with ubuntu .. as i just found out ... does ispconfig or ebox work better .. or do they have the same problem with ubuntu?
[05:20] <VelusUniverseSys> from personal experiance ispconfig is built towards deb based unix never heard of ebox
[05:24] <VelusUniverseSys> waters33637,
[05:26] <VelusUniverseSys> and waters33637 reading on the ebox (or what i can see is it) it seems to support ubuntu as in the front page its on about ubuntu
[05:36] <cihhan> hi all! i am trying to install xfce4 to my ubuntu server -- i installed by apt-get install xfce4; however it doesnt auto start and i have to write startxfce4 everytime. is there a way to make it run at automatically at boot time?
[08:58] <John[Lisbeth]> I'm looking for some thorough online materials about dist-upgrade
[08:58] <John[Lisbeth]> preparing for my first one from 15.10 to 16.04
[09:07] <Seveas> John[Lisbeth]: don't use dist-upgrade for that.
[09:07] <Seveas> do-release-upgrade is what you want
[09:50] <John[Lisbeth]> Does do-release-upgrade only go one way, and how does it determine which version to install?
[12:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:51] <k2gremlin> lordievader, Morning :P
[12:53] <lordievader> Hey k2gremlin
[12:54] <k2gremlin> lordievader, So what's on your agenda today?
[12:54] <lordievader> Not much, finishing some assignment.
[12:54] <k2gremlin> lordievader, I need to finish my bio paper :/
[12:55] <k2gremlin> and figure out why my openvpn traffic is retarded.
[13:14] <if_gaga0> hello all ! i have 15.10 and xen-4.5 kernel, that kernel have bug, and i will patched they. My question is: how i can get ubuntu xen4.5 kernel sources? How-to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel for kernel source without xen 4.5 patches
[13:52] <RoyK> if_gaga0: my question is: Why do you use xen when kvm does it far better?
[13:53] <if_gaga0> RoyK: because, i'm need PV mode
[13:54] <RoyK> what is that?
[13:54] <RoyK> paravirt?
[13:54] <RoyK> kvm has paravirt all the way
[13:54] <if_gaga0> yep, paravirt
[13:55] <RoyK> even amazon has kicked out xen
[13:55] <if_gaga0> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_KVM_and_Xen.3F
[13:56] <RoyK> what sort of guests are you running?
[13:56] <waters33637> VelusUniverseSys: Thanks ...
[13:57] <if_gaga0> "KVM does not support paravirtualization for CPU"
[13:57] <RoyK> what sort of guests are you running?
[13:57] <RoyK> do you need cpu paravirt?
[13:58] <RoyK> most of us just need that for I/O
[13:58] <if_gaga0> yep, i'm have 90% of linux vm
[13:58] <RoyK> then kvm will be fine
[13:58] <if_gaga0> 95%
[13:58] <RoyK> on windows too
[13:58] <RoyK> imho xen is a pita
[14:00] <if_gaga0> may be
[14:01] <RoyK> I stopped using xen som 4-5 years ago
[14:05] <if_gaga0> RoyK: Overall, Xen and KVM were performing well compared to the host's performance. Xen tended to have the most wins while KVM generally came in right behind and the two were very competitive with one another, either are great solutions for Linux virtualization depending upon your specific needs (c) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1510-virt&num=5
[14:06] <RoyK> if_gaga0: the bonus with kvm is that you don't need to care about reserving memory to the machines, and no need for a specific kernel, and it's widely supported
[14:07] <if_gaga0> can you clarify about "memory reserving" ?
[14:09] <if_gaga0> for dom0?
[14:25] <RoyK> if_gaga0: iirc xen reserves memory for domU and only lets the dom0 use the rest - kvm is dynamic on this
[14:25] <RoyK> if_gaga0: I don't see a single reason of using xen these days
[14:52] <if_gaga0> RoyK: thnx for notion
[15:06] <John[Lisbeth]> Does do-release-upgrade only go one way, and how does it determine which version to install?
[15:09] <patdk-lap> it installs the next version
[15:09] <patdk-lap> that is all it does
[15:36] <RoyK> John[Lisbeth]: it installs the next version - if you're on LTS, it installs the next LTS version - see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades - if it says "lts" it will only upgrade to lts releases - if it says "normal" it'll upgrade to whatever's the next thing
[16:16] <kauli_> hello, I would like to run dynamips on ubuntu server and I would like to read cisco image when I write dynamips -H 7000 it is open it and bulid date and get hypervisor TCP control startec port 7000 but nothing happen after that or try to read configration file ??
[16:25] <kauli_> hello, I would like to run dynamips on ubuntu server and I would like to read cisco image when I write dynamips -H 7000 it is open it and bulid date and get hypervisor TCP control startec port 7000 but nothing happen after that or try to read configration file ??
[17:44] <John[Lisbeth]> Would you say it is safe to upgrade a system to 16.04 at this point, or would you wait until april?
[17:44] <John[Lisbeth]> It's not mission critical
[17:45] <teward> i would not, John[Lisbeth]
[17:45] <teward> John[Lisbeth]: stick with teh LTS, or 15.10 if you need newer software.
[17:45] <teward> i would wait for 16.04 release first
[17:45] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright, thanks for the heads up.
[18:44] <tucemiux> anyone knows if there is a GUI app that will allow you to remotely administer virtual machines stored on kvm ?
[19:02] <Sling> tucemiux: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools
[19:40] <VelusUniverseSys> how od i upgrade again without reinstalling /
[19:40] <VelusUniverseSys> ?
[19:45] <Sling> VelusUniverseSys: upgrade what to what?
[19:48] <VelusUniverseSys> 15.04 to 15.10
[19:48] <Sling> do-release-upgrade
[19:50] <VelusUniverseSys> im asuming to do an update from 15 - 16 would mean a whole wipe and resintall?
[19:51] <Sling> not really, you never have to 'wipe'
[19:51] <Sling> this isn't windows ;)
[19:54] <VelusUniverseSys> lol yeah but would be hard on a vps system lol
[19:54] <Sling> how so?
[19:55] <VelusUniverseSys> well how would i be able to upgrade from 15 - 16 without any disks and in comandline only
[19:55] <VelusUniverseSys> do-release-upgrade?
[19:58] <VelusUniverseSys> all i can say is thank god for tywo screens at work and home lol i can watch the upgrade and code at the same time
[20:03] <Sling> VelusUniverseSys: yes, with do-release-upgrade, over the internet
[20:03] <Sling> it will update the repository and fetch all needed packages
[20:05] <VelusUniverseSys> even from 15 - 16
[20:05] <Sling> yes
[20:06] <Sling> 16 just means it's one of the releases in 2016
[20:06] <VelusUniverseSys> thats cool thought you couldnt but yeah when will 16 be relased
[20:06] <Sling> always in april and october
[20:06] <Sling> hence the 04 and 10
[20:06] <VelusUniverseSys> ok cool
[20:06] <Sling> 16.04 = april 2016
[20:06] <VelusUniverseSys> would 16 be lts?
[20:06] <Sling> yup
[20:06] <VelusUniverseSys> and would 16 have php7?
[20:07] <maswan> yes
[20:07] <VelusUniverseSys> good i wonder when centos will get php7 lol they still on php5.5 now
[20:07] <Sling> probably (unless there is a confirmation somewhere I didn't see yet)
[20:07] <maswan> Package: php
[20:07] <maswan> Depends: php7.0
[20:07] <Sling> cool
[20:08] <maswan> I'm on 16 for my laptop
[20:08] <Sling> VelusUniverseSys: well 5.5 isn't *that* old
[20:08] <Sling> there was no php6
[20:08] <VelusUniverseSys> yeah i know but they are behind on stuff most things these days are on php5.6 and there is a bit you cant do on php 5.5 that you can on 5.6
[20:09] <VelusUniverseSys> i cant wait to see how my apps run on php 7? see if they break or not lol
[20:10] <maswan> I know people still working on migrating off centos5, it is starting to get really painful for thme now
[20:11] <VelusUniverseSys> yeah i used to love it it was good but its so behind i didnt know this till a while back then i found fedora yeah thats good and nearly up to date but it goes out of date quick so now im on ubutu now
[20:12] <VelusUniverseSys> and thinking of creating my own os for me to use
[20:12] <VelusUniverseSys> lol
[20:12] <VelusUniverseSys> well two really one for me and one for a group of people to use lol
[21:37] <Razva> any idea why all the servers that I connect to MAAS got shut down, and I have no option to start them...?
[23:11] <VelusUniverseSys> sarnold, it looks like im going with nginx and rtmp which will hopefully be better
[23:41] <compdoc> ubuntu server doesnt have a subsys directory. What happens when I install a program that specifies /var/run/subsys? does it just get ignored?
[23:46] <RoyK> compdoc: iirc /var/run is /run, which is tmpfs, so that program needs to create the subsys dir to be able to use it, or you'll need to hack it into somewhere in systemd or somewhere