| Kilos | morning everyone | 06:30 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | Morning Kilos | 07:14 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 07:15 |
| superfly | Just finished breakfast. Drinking our coffee and then off to the shops. | 07:19 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 07:19 |
| Kilos | and go safe | 07:20 |
| inetpro | good evening everyone | 08:50 |
| inetpro | oops... I mean morning | 08:51 |
| Kilos | ohi inetpro | 08:51 |
| Kilos | internet been slow last few days | 08:51 |
| inetpro | why? | 08:58 |
| Kilos | good question | 09:01 |
| Kilos | i havent even tried to find out | 09:02 |
| Kilos | had some busy days and head not happy today | 09:02 |
| superfly | Kilos: tell your head to be happy, or else! | 11:07 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 11:26 |
| Kilos | maybe i should install ubuntu alongside kde so i can keep in touch | 12:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoekom? | 12:47 |
| inetpro | superfly: glad to see you survived the shopping spree | 12:49 |
| Kilos | hoekom wat inetpro | 13:38 |
| inetpro | hoekom ubuntu langs kde installeer? | 13:38 |
| Kilos | o | 13:38 |
| Kilos | we dan kan ek sien as ek iemand moet help | 13:39 |
| Kilos | weet jy dat ek nou net kde hier op lappie het | 13:39 |
| Kilos | ek kannie als in cli doen soos julle nie | 13:40 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 13:41 |
| Kilos | arme iqbal het ek nog nie eers aan die gang gekry nie | 13:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: remember, you have neither the power nor responsibility to fix it all | 13:43 |
| Kilos | that doesnt mean i must stop trying | 13:45 |
| Kilos | if i could get it here i would fix it | 13:45 |
| inetpro | very kind of you oom Kilos | 14:04 |
| Kilos | nee man | 14:04 |
| Kilos | dont like to see peeps battling with ubuntu | 14:05 |
| Kilos | inetpro look how slow the web is | 16:45 |
| Kilos | Get: 1 http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main firefox amd64 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 [42,0 MB] | 16:45 |
| Kilos | Fetched 42,0 MB in 2min 50s (247 kB/s) | 16:45 |
| Kilos | thats sucks | 16:45 |
| Kilos | maybe i gotta start revving telkom again | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed where are you now? hope all well there | 16:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how big is the web? | 17:24 |
| inetpro | you can't say the web is slow | 17:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:26 |
| Kilos | my connection to the internet is slow nitpicker | 17:26 |
| inetpro | haha :-) | 17:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:26 |
| inetpro | fact is, it could be anywhere between you and neology | 17:27 |
| inetpro | but I guess the bottleneck is most likely right there by you | 17:27 |
| Kilos | ya telkom using mtn tower | 17:27 |
| inetpro | which would mean you'd experience a slowness for everything else | 17:28 |
| Kilos | nono | 17:28 |
| Kilos | water runs out of taps at same speed | 17:28 |
| inetpro | slowness is a very relative term | 17:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:29 |
| Kilos | well its slow relative to what i expect | 17:30 |
| Kilos | last time i complained i was download up to 8MB/s | 17:31 |
| Kilos | 1200mb/s | 17:31 |
| Kilos | now its crawling | 17:31 |
| Kilos | at least when you get through to the data guys at telkom they are quite clued up | 17:32 |
| Kilos | or used to be last time i complained | 17:33 |
| Kilos | oh yes | 17:34 |
| Kilos | is there a command i can use to see if this lappy is using ddr3 ran or ddr2 | 17:35 |
| Kilos | ram | 17:35 |
| Kilos | ive tried lspci and lshw | 17:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sudo dmidecode -t memory | 17:38 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 17:39 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:40 |
| Kilos | 4g ddr3 and its kinda slow | 17:40 |
| Kilos | maybe its not using swap properly | 17:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: btw, for saving a snapshot of your connectivity do the following | 17:42 |
| inetpro | mkdir ~/speed | 17:42 |
| inetpro | and then from time to time just run the following command: | 17:42 |
| inetpro | mtr -nr -s0 8.8.8.8 | tee ~/speed/`date '+%Y%m%d%H%M'`.txt | 17:42 |
| Kilos | eeek | 17:43 |
| inetpro | what? | 17:43 |
| Kilos | thats a long ugly command | 17:44 |
| inetpro | just do it and see | 17:44 |
| inetpro | it's useful | 17:44 |
| Kilos | but efficient im sure | 17:44 |
| Kilos | http://bin.snyman.info/mmmgquag | 17:46 |
| Kilos | some serious packet loss | 17:46 |
| inetpro | did you see how it saved a file in the speed folder? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | we did this some years back inetpro | 17:47 |
| inetpro | did we do it the same way? | 17:48 |
| Kilos | without the saving | 17:48 |
| Kilos | bu | 17:48 |
| Kilos | t | 17:48 |
| inetpro | ah... | 17:48 |
| Kilos | then we did something to improve it | 17:48 |
| Kilos | can you remember what | 17:48 |
| * inetpro can't remember | 17:48 | |
| Kilos | aw thats lovely | 17:49 |
| inetpro | but if you remember this and do it regularly, you can refer to historic data and start comparing | 17:49 |
| Kilos | ty for that | 17:49 |
| Kilos | i go save the command in speed folder too | 17:50 |
| inetpro | those packet losses will hurt you indeed | 17:50 |
| inetpro | should be 0% | 17:51 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:51 |
| Kilos | we did something to improve things | 17:51 |
| Kilos | maybe saw where weak links were and bypassed them? | 17:52 |
| inetpro | uh... | 17:52 |
| inetpro | my avg speed to 8.8.8.8 is 40.3 | 17:53 |
| Kilos | huh | 17:54 |
| Kilos | where you see that | 17:54 |
| inetpro | yours is 395.4 | 17:54 |
| inetpro | Avg column | 17:54 |
| Kilos | oh you just using the last one? | 17:55 |
| inetpro | yep | 17:55 |
| inetpro | you should phone Telkom for sure | 17:55 |
| Kilos | is yours better | 17:55 |
| inetpro | your problem only starts at hop 5 | 17:55 |
| * inetpro has no problem with speed | 17:56 | |
| inetpro | but I use LTE | 17:56 |
| Kilos | is your average better | 17:56 |
| Kilos | smaller number is better? | 17:56 |
| inetpro | my avg speed to 8.8.8.8 is 40.3 | 17:56 |
| inetpro | obvious | 17:56 |
| Kilos | what is the 40.3 | 17:57 |
| inetpro | those are milliseconds | 17:57 |
| Kilos | oh | 17:57 |
| Kilos | gotcha | 17:57 |
| inetpro | also called latency IIRC | 17:57 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:57 |
| Kilos | bad when playing minetest | 17:58 |
| inetpro | but it's not a perfect science | 17:58 |
| Kilos | oh i tell you now | 17:58 |
| inetpro | many routers are typically programmed to give lower priority to ICMP packets so they aren't "wasting" processing power over "real" traffic | 17:59 |
| inetpro | so you can even see packet losses on a perfect connection | 18:00 |
| Kilos | see pm | 18:00 |
| Kilos | ill call the data guys when i remember | 18:10 |
| Kilos | atm im doing little that needs speed | 18:11 |
| Kilos | looks like weed back in the states | 18:13 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro you cheated with ibid | 18:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why? | 18:17 |
| Kilos | that isnt a proper install like with a .deb | 18:17 |
| inetpro | obvious | 18:17 |
| Kilos | its rrunning in a | 18:17 |
| Kilos | um | 18:17 |
| Kilos | virtual environment | 18:17 |
| Kilos | so ill keep hunting for a python oke to upgrade ibid | 18:18 |
| Kilos | met a new one yesterday from the congo | 18:18 |
| Kilos | will test his python skills | 18:18 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro | 18:22 |
| Kilos | somewhere in mail links or a link in a sight i saw a package that can install any ubuntu package from any release to any other release | 18:23 |
| Kilos | but i cant find it again | 18:24 |
| Kilos | and dont remember the name | 18:24 |
| Kilos | would be great to install 14.04 network manage and dependencies into 12.04 | 18:25 |
| Kilos | when you are bored you can search for it | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ive googled me sick | 18:25 |
| Kilos | might even have been someones tweet | 18:28 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:04 |
| Kilos | see ya tomorrow | 19:04 |
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