[06:30] morning everyone [07:14] Morning Kilos [07:15] hi superfly [07:19] Just finished breakfast. Drinking our coffee and then off to the shops. [07:19] enjoy [07:20] and go safe [08:50] good evening everyone [08:51] oops... I mean morning [08:51] ohi inetpro [08:51] internet been slow last few days [08:58] why? [09:01] good question [09:02] i havent even tried to find out [09:02] had some busy days and head not happy today [11:07] Kilos: tell your head to be happy, or else! [11:26] hahaha [12:03] maybe i should install ubuntu alongside kde so i can keep in touch [12:47] Kilos: hoekom? [12:49] superfly: glad to see you survived the shopping spree [13:38] hoekom wat inetpro [13:38] hoekom ubuntu langs kde installeer? [13:38] o [13:39] we dan kan ek sien as ek iemand moet help [13:39] weet jy dat ek nou net kde hier op lappie het [13:40] ek kannie als in cli doen soos julle nie [13:41] hmm... [13:41] arme iqbal het ek nog nie eers aan die gang gekry nie [13:43] Kilos: remember, you have neither the power nor responsibility to fix it all [13:45] that doesnt mean i must stop trying [13:45] if i could get it here i would fix it [14:04] very kind of you oom Kilos [14:04] nee man [14:05] dont like to see peeps battling with ubuntu [16:45] inetpro look how slow the web is [16:45] Get: 1 http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main firefox amd64 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 [42,0 MB] [16:45] Fetched 42,0 MB in 2min 50s (247 kB/s) [16:45] thats sucks [16:46] maybe i gotta start revving telkom again [16:46] hi tumbleweed where are you now? hope all well there [17:24] Kilos: how big is the web? [17:25] you can't say the web is slow [17:26] ai! [17:26] my connection to the internet is slow nitpicker [17:26] haha :-) [17:26] lol [17:27] fact is, it could be anywhere between you and neology [17:27] but I guess the bottleneck is most likely right there by you [17:27] ya telkom using mtn tower [17:28] which would mean you'd experience a slowness for everything else [17:28] nono [17:28] water runs out of taps at same speed [17:29] slowness is a very relative term [17:29] ai! [17:30] well its slow relative to what i expect [17:31] last time i complained i was download up to 8MB/s [17:31] 1200mb/s [17:31] now its crawling [17:32] at least when you get through to the data guys at telkom they are quite clued up [17:33] or used to be last time i complained [17:34] oh yes [17:35] is there a command i can use to see if this lappy is using ddr3 ran or ddr2 [17:35] ram [17:35] ive tried lspci and lshw [17:38] Kilos: sudo dmidecode -t memory [17:39] ty inetpro [17:40] ai! [17:40] 4g ddr3 and its kinda slow [17:41] maybe its not using swap properly [17:42] Kilos: btw, for saving a snapshot of your connectivity do the following [17:42] mkdir ~/speed [17:42] and then from time to time just run the following command: [17:42] mtr -nr -s0 8.8.8.8 | tee ~/speed/`date '+%Y%m%d%H%M'`.txt [17:43] eeek [17:43] what? [17:44] thats a long ugly command [17:44] just do it and see [17:44] it's useful [17:44] but efficient im sure [17:46] http://bin.snyman.info/mmmgquag [17:46] some serious packet loss [17:47] did you see how it saved a file in the speed folder? [17:47] we did this some years back inetpro [17:48] did we do it the same way? [17:48] without the saving [17:48] bu [17:48] t [17:48] ah... [17:48] then we did something to improve it [17:48] can you remember what [17:48] * inetpro can't remember [17:49] aw thats lovely [17:49] but if you remember this and do it regularly, you can refer to historic data and start comparing [17:49] ty for that [17:50] i go save the command in speed folder too [17:50] those packet losses will hurt you indeed [17:51] should be 0% [17:51] ya [17:51] we did something to improve things [17:52] maybe saw where weak links were and bypassed them? [17:52] uh... [17:53] my avg speed to 8.8.8.8 is 40.3 [17:54] huh [17:54] where you see that [17:54] yours is 395.4 [17:54] Avg column [17:55] oh you just using the last one? [17:55] yep [17:55] you should phone Telkom for sure [17:55] is yours better [17:55] your problem only starts at hop 5 [17:56] * inetpro has no problem with speed [17:56] but I use LTE [17:56] is your average better [17:56] smaller number is better? [17:56] my avg speed to 8.8.8.8 is 40.3 [17:56] obvious [17:57] what is the 40.3 [17:57] those are milliseconds [17:57] oh [17:57] gotcha [17:57] also called latency IIRC [17:57] ya [17:58] bad when playing minetest [17:58] but it's not a perfect science [17:58] oh i tell you now [17:59] many routers are typically programmed to give lower priority to ICMP packets so they aren't "wasting" processing power over "real" traffic [18:00] so you can even see packet losses on a perfect connection [18:00] see pm [18:10] ill call the data guys when i remember [18:11] atm im doing little that needs speed [18:13] looks like weed back in the states [18:16] oh inetpro you cheated with ibid [18:17] Kilos: why? [18:17] that isnt a proper install like with a .deb [18:17] obvious [18:17] its rrunning in a [18:17] um [18:17] virtual environment [18:18] so ill keep hunting for a python oke to upgrade ibid [18:18] met a new one yesterday from the congo [18:18] will test his python skills [18:22] oh inetpro [18:23] somewhere in mail links or a link in a sight i saw a package that can install any ubuntu package from any release to any other release [18:24] but i cant find it again [18:24] and dont remember the name [18:25] would be great to install 14.04 network manage and dependencies into 12.04 [18:25] when you are bored you can search for it [18:25] ive googled me sick [18:28] might even have been someones tweet [19:04] night all. sleep tight [19:04] see ya tomorrow === zipper is now known as Guest56461