| valorie | https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting#Next_Meeting | 00:02 |
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| valorie | !info libqapt2 xenial | 07:19 |
| ubottu | Package libqapt2 does not exist in xenial | 07:19 |
| valorie | !info muon xenial | 07:19 |
| ubottu | muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 252 kB, installed size 1359 kB | 07:19 |
| sitter | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/qapt.git/tree/debian/gstreamer-qapt.postinst?h=kubuntu_wily_archive | 10:46 |
| sitter | hurr durr | 10:46 |
| sitter | yofel, sgclark: FYI that is broken https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359401 | 10:47 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 359401 in general "First time user/install of linux kubuntu, and dragon player won't work." [Grave,Resolved: downstream] | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | howdy folks | 13:14 |
| === Sho__ is now known as Sho_ | ||
| doko | sitter, Riddell, please could you forward one bug report to the kde bug tracker? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extra-cmake-modules/+bug/1543093 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1543093 in ktnef (Ubuntu) "fails to build with No rule to make target '/usr/lib/libical.so'" [Undecided,New] | 14:49 |
| doko | or fix it =) | 14:49 |
| sitter | doko: is that with a rebuilt kcalcore? | 14:59 |
| sitter | the absolute path of public required libraries is put into the link interface of our cmake targets | 14:59 |
| sitter | $ grep -r ical.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/ | 15:00 |
| sitter | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/KF5CalendarCoreTargets.cmake: INTERFACE_LINK_LIBRARIES "KF5::KDELibs4Support;/usr/lib/libical.so;/usr/lib/libicalss.so" | 15:00 |
| doko | sitter, no, so not cmake, ... will rebuild it | 15:01 |
| clivejo | sitter: what does "STILL UNSTABLE" actually mean? | 16:22 |
| sitter | clivejo: that it was unstable in the build before as well | 16:23 |
| sitter | i.e. no-change | 16:23 |
| clivejo | what is UNSTABLE then? | 16:24 |
| sgclark | clivejo: I usually find those to be jobs that have missing optional deps, but you need to read the logs to find warnings etc. | 16:32 |
| sgclark | unstable means something is not right but not broken beyond repair | 16:32 |
| clivejo | ah | 16:32 |
| sgclark | and morning all | 16:32 |
| sitter | clivejo: the opposite of no-change. i.e. it wasn't unstable before :P | 16:32 |
| clivejo | sitter: you are so helpful :P | 16:33 |
| sitter | ikr | 16:33 |
| sgclark | haha | 16:33 |
| clivejo | LOL | 16:33 |
| clivejo | oh talking about being helpful Debian guys have made a discission! | 16:34 |
| sgclark | ? | 16:34 |
| sitter | clivejo: as far as kci builds go unstable usually means lintian warning | 16:34 |
| clivejo | +kde-spectacle (15.12.2-1~) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium | 16:34 |
| sitter | or generally speaking any sort of warning that is picked up by our rigging as such will cause the build to be marked unstable | 16:35 |
| sitter | missing qml dependencies also cause warnings for example | 16:35 |
| clivejo | sgclark: should I merge that into kubuntu_xenial? | 16:36 |
| clivejo | and re-upload it | 16:36 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/spectacle.git/commit/ | 16:37 |
| sgclark | clivejo: seems like the right move to me. yofel has final call | 16:40 |
| yofel | do it | 16:40 |
| clivejo | wow | 16:41 |
| clivejo | scarey | 16:41 |
| clivejo | Ill do it a bit later | 16:42 |
| yofel | I need a scripting API for quassel, then I could scare you by scripting stuff like that XD | 16:42 |
| BluesKaj | I wish there we had more splash screen theme options , these unity colours are fugly , why do we have to put up with it | 16:42 |
| * yofel goes back into hiding | 16:42 | |
| clivejo | yofel: we need the brains behind it! | 16:42 |
| yofel | well true | 16:42 |
| clivejo | a bot shouting "do it" would get me in a lot of trouble! | 16:42 |
| yofel | XD | 16:42 |
| clivejo | yofel: will you be about later? | 16:43 |
| yofel | even if I don't really have time to do much I can at least make decisions (and take the blame for it) | 16:43 |
| yofel | I will, but ping me if you need me | 16:43 |
| clivejo | I wanted help with those telepathy module things | 16:43 |
| clivejo | we so close to having apps completed! | 16:44 |
| clivejo | just need a final push | 16:44 |
| yofel | oh right, one thing about that: If debian and us have the same package name and only we have an epoch, then that package has to keep the epoch and needs manual changelog merging | 16:44 |
| clivejo | anyone noticed firefox going crazy with KCI ? | 19:23 |
| clivejo | http://s23.postimg.org/5a2vuag2j/kci_resources.jpg | 19:25 |
| clivejo | yofel: should I delete spectacle - 15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 from the PPA? | 19:38 |
| yofel | yes | 19:38 |
| clivejo | yofel: ok, deleted old package, merged with debian and commited to senile archive, uploaded to PPA and changed the entry in package-lists to display on QA | 19:50 |
| clivejo | yofel: can a package be merged with Debian at any time, or are there only certain windows we do it? Id like the merge frameworks/kio master -> kubuntu_unstable as maxy has fixed the problem upstream | 19:55 |
| yofel | go ahead, it's fine during any time when adding features is fine as well | 20:01 |
| yofel | or if the merge would just pull a bugfix | 20:01 |
| clivejo | wasnt sure | 20:04 |
| clivejo | I kinda hacked it, but Maxy did it properly | 20:04 |
| clivejo | German's are so efficient ! | 20:05 |
| clivejo | sgclark: would it be ok for me to upload some of applications you have marked as done? | 20:10 |
| sgclark | upload where? what? | 20:11 |
| clivejo | apps to staging PPA | 20:11 |
| clivejo | you said you uploaded to the wrong PPA? | 20:11 |
| sgclark | did I miss more? | 20:12 |
| clivejo | there are a few still at 15.12.0 | 20:12 |
| sgclark | I can get them | 20:16 |
| clivejo | just trying to get more green on QA | 20:16 |
| sgclark | ahh I see, these were victim to my broken git-buildpackage-ppa. I will rebuild and upload. | 20:35 |
| clivejo | I can do it if you are busy | 20:35 |
| sgclark | I can do it.. | 20:35 |
| clivejo | ok :P I wont fight over it! | 20:36 |
| soee | i can test when they are ready :) | 20:37 |
| clivejo | wow, you will wait til they are ready :P | 20:37 |
| soee | ;D | 20:37 |
| clivejo | feeling better today? | 20:37 |
| soee | just a bit :( | 20:38 |
| clivejo | cold, man flu, tummy bug? | 20:39 |
| soee | i'm taking antibiotic so the biggest issue is if i shake my head it pains like hell | 20:41 |
| clivejo | dont shake your head then :P | 20:41 |
| soee | and i feel a bit dizzy :D | 20:41 |
| soee | best cure is to be able to test new stuff like apps or frameworks :) | 20:42 |
| clivejo | yofel: have we a deadline this Thursday? | 20:51 |
| yofel | feature freeze | 20:51 |
| clivejo | will we make it? | 20:52 |
| yofel | no | 20:52 |
| yofel | which means someone will have to file a bunch of FFE's | 20:52 |
| clivejo | :( | 20:55 |
| clivejo | yofel: can i just go ahead and try one of these ktp-* merges? | 20:58 |
| yofel | yes | 20:58 |
| clivejo | can hardly mess it up much more :/ | 20:58 |
| clivejo | or can I :/ | 20:59 |
| clivejo | eak | 21:01 |
| clivejo | ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job. What does that mean? | 21:03 |
| clivejo | Is that something I did, or KCI not playing properly with Debian git? | 21:05 |
| clivejo | !info ktp-text-ui wily | 21:21 |
| ubottu | Package ktp-text-ui does not exist in wily | 21:21 |
| clivejo | !info kde-telepathy-text-ui wily | 21:22 |
| ubottu | kde-telepathy-text-ui (source: ktp-text-ui): Telepathy text chat UI for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 586 kB, installed size 2434 kB | 21:22 |
| clivejo | yofel: why is there other folders and files with the debian folder? | 21:28 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/ktp-text-ui.git/tree/ | 21:28 |
| clivejo | are they source files? | 21:28 |
| clivejo | I dont understand why they are in git | 21:29 |
| yofel | oh, that package uses gbp | 21:29 |
| yofel | meh | 21:29 |
| yofel | uhm | 21:29 |
| yofel | now what do we do with that... | 21:29 |
| clivejo | are you thinking? or did you really ask me? | 21:32 |
| yofel | thinking | 21:32 |
| yofel | in cycles | 21:32 |
| yofel | do that: look over the packaging for stuff that you think are useful and apply that on our branch | 21:33 |
| yofel | and don't merge | 21:33 |
| clivejo | our branch is clean | 21:33 |
| yofel | this is the vanilla gbp workflow which includes the upstream source in the branch | 21:33 |
| yofel | but we don't use it | 21:33 |
| clivejo | Ive done the merge | 21:33 |
| yofel | then don't push that | 21:34 |
| clivejo | can I just delete all the folders and files bar the debian folder? | 21:34 |
| yofel | well you can | 21:34 |
| clivejo | ok, so Ive deleted all files bar the debian folder and staged the 8 files I made changes to | 21:38 |
| wxl | hey everyone on top of testing 14.04.4? | 21:45 |
| sgclark | no. | 21:47 |
| * clivejo is having a mental break down in git merge hell | 21:47 | |
| sgclark | not because we don' want to. just stack it on the 50 billion other things we don't have the resources to do. | 21:48 |
| wxl | ummmm you want some help then sgclark or just not doing it no matter what? | 21:49 |
| sgclark | my laptop is taking 3 years to generate source packages. I think it is officially dying | 21:49 |
| wxl | in reality it's probably no big deal. users can install an earlier version and just upgrade | 21:49 |
| sgclark | wxl: help is likely a better option. Though I am fairly certain we have no changes. | 21:49 |
| wxl | sgclark: k i'll get some of my folks on it. who's handling release management for you guys lately? | 21:50 |
| sgclark | we cannot even finish debian merges!!! | 21:50 |
| wxl | oh GAWD | 21:50 |
| * wxl hugs sgclark | 21:50 | |
| sgclark | oh well we gave it a vaian try haha | 21:50 |
| sgclark | valiant | 21:50 |
| clivejo | yofel: I think Im good to push now | 21:51 |
| wxl | hehehe | 21:51 |
| sgclark | wxl: yofel is our release manager | 21:51 |
| clivejo | will I give it a shot? | 21:51 |
| yofel | wxl: when't the deadline again? | 21:51 |
| wxl | sgclark: yofel: i'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you know we're doing back to back releases of 14.04.4 and 16.04 beta 1. so next week is beta 1. you in? | 21:51 |
| wxl | yofel: thurs as usual | 21:52 |
| clivejo | yofel: The diff - http://paste.ubuntu.com/15085890/ | 21:52 |
| yofel | then no | 21:52 |
| wxl | yofel: for both 14.04.4 (this week) and 16.04 beta 1 (next week?) -- both thursdays btw | 21:53 |
| wxl | ? | 21:53 |
| yofel | we need to get like 300 packages uploaded before a beta makes sense | 21:53 |
| yofel | oh | 21:53 |
| yofel | hm | 21:53 |
| wxl | yofel: also i can round up some testing for you. | 21:53 |
| wxl | fwiw i'm not trying to put the heat on, but want to help in any way i can | 21:54 |
| yofel | what's the changes for .4 again? HWE or just bugfixes? | 21:54 |
| wxl | yeah, just the usual crap really | 21:54 |
| wxl | whatever bugfixes there inevitably are aren't gamechangers | 21:54 |
| sgclark | wxl: we are short on packagers, not testing. not sure any help can be possible at this stage | 21:54 |
| yofel | nah, then lets skip .4, not worth spending our little time on | 21:55 |
| wxl | ok | 21:55 |
| yofel | but thanks for the reminder | 21:55 |
| wxl | no problem :) | 21:55 |
| wxl | yofel: you want to get back to me on beta 1 or make a decision now? | 21:55 |
| clivejo | yofel: would wxl be able to help with the installer? | 21:55 |
| ScottK | Would it make sense just to sync Kf5? I don't know that there's any strong reason why Kubuntu needs a diff. | 21:55 |
| yofel | possibly | 21:56 |
| yofel | wxl: I'll get back to you | 21:56 |
| sgclark | ScottK: I want to sync 95% of everything!!! | 21:56 |
| yofel | for the NEW stuff I was actually thinking about that | 21:56 |
| wxl | yofel: k great. thanks! | 21:56 |
| yofel | for the rest, does someone remember if there was diff we need? | 21:56 |
| * wxl skitters off.. | 21:57 | |
| ScottK | For Kf5 I think it particularly makes sense. since there's no artwork/branding/etc. | 21:57 |
| yofel | I'm pretty sure we can sync for 16.10, for 16.04 I'm not sure.. | 21:57 |
| ScottK | Since 16.04 is going to be the base for Neon, seems like a decent idea not to start out way behind, but that's just me. | 21:57 |
| yofel | right | 21:58 |
| yofel | we will have to update it one way or another | 21:58 |
| sgclark | neon? no offense but does that have to do with us? | 21:58 |
| yofel | someone just has to look through stuff and check if there's any break/replaces etc. we need | 21:58 |
| yofel | sgclark: they're based on us | 21:59 |
| sgclark | yeah well rather than helping, they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft | 21:59 |
| yofel | so we should at the very least care about it as much as debian cares about us | 22:00 |
| clivejo | "they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft" when, where?!? | 22:04 |
| sgclark | clivejo: I am dropping it. carry on. | 22:05 |
| clivejo | sgclark: ok | 22:07 |
| clivejo | sgclark: did you upload kopete? | 22:08 |
| sgclark | yeah sorry seem my laptop wifi is crap, got it plugged and uploading now.. again. sorry. | 22:08 |
| clivejo | ah I see it | 22:09 |
| clivejo | uploaded 33seconds ago | 22:09 |
| clivejo | how come with ktp-text-ui we have an epoch and Debian dont? | 22:13 |
| clivejo | yofel sgclark: ktp-text-ui is building but is looking for optional * Qt5TextToSpeech, anyone know what package provides that? | 22:19 |
| yofel | no, I believe that's not packaged | 22:19 |
| sgclark | yofel: clivejo is a qt modyle that not even released | 22:20 |
| sgclark | module* | 22:20 |
| clivejo | ah, so safe to ignore? | 22:20 |
| sgclark | yep | 22:20 |
| clivejo | :) | 22:20 |
| yofel | so much for depending on released stuff.. | 22:20 |
| sgclark | ikr | 22:20 |
| sgclark | I went through that with CI , there are aware that no one has it available.. | 22:21 |
| * clivejo does a little dance | 22:21 | |
| sgclark | they are* | 22:21 |
| clivejo | arrrrr Im confused | 22:37 |
| clivejo | if Debian released 15.12.1-2 and we have an epoch then our version should be 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 ? | 22:38 |
| clivejo | or is it 4:15.12.1-2ubuntu1 ? | 22:39 |
| sgclark | I would guess second as epoch does not change that they have uploaded 2 times | 22:39 |
| sgclark | yofel ^ ? | 22:40 |
| clivejo | do epochs not override everything else? | 22:41 |
| clivejo | sgclark: kget, kgpg, khangman, kio-extras, kiriki all marked on Trello as done, but still appearing as 15.12.0 on QA, have you uploaded them? | 22:44 |
| sgclark | gosh patience my friend. I am working on them. | 22:45 |
| clivejo | Im nearly as soee huh? | 22:45 |
| clivejo | as impatient | 22:46 |
| clivejo | yippee, kio-extras and kiriki are green | 22:49 |
| yofel | seond | 22:56 |
| yofel | *second | 22:56 |
| clivejo | in ktp-kded-module it seems that debian have changed the name | 23:05 |
| clivejo | we should do the same and drop our epoch? | 23:05 |
| clivejo | valorie: where are our daisy chains? | 23:14 |
| * clivejo feels unloved | 23:15 | |
| * valorie wraps a daisy chain around clivejo's head | 23:26 | |
| valorie | i'm gonna brave the cold, damp air and go plant a couple pots of droopy bulbs | 23:27 |
| yofel | clivejo: yes | 23:29 |
| clivejo | yofel: LP is rejecting my upload of ktp-kded-integration-module | 23:40 |
| yofel | why? | 23:40 |
| clivejo | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/238653268/upload_9016596_log.txt | 23:40 |
| yofel | well, missing epoch | 23:42 |
| clivejo | debian changed the name to ktp-kded-integration-module instead of ktp-kded-module so I dropped it | 23:42 |
| yofel | you'll have to add it back | 23:43 |
| yofel | the binary already had the epoch and was called the same | 23:43 |
| yofel | or wait | 23:44 |
| yofel | ah yes | 23:44 |
| yofel | kde-telepathy-integration-module | 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | xenial/universe | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x | 23:44 |
| yofel | bummer | 23:44 |
| clivejo | it was renamed but epoch wasnt dropped :( | 23:45 |
| clivejo | yofel: would you look at marble? | 23:51 |
| yofel | after sleep, that thing's scary | 23:52 |
| clivejo | my head hurts! | 23:52 |
| clivejo | think Ill call it a day | 23:53 |
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