[00:02] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting#Next_Meeting
[07:19] <valorie> !info libqapt2 xenial
[07:19] <valorie> !info muon xenial
[10:46] <sitter> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/qapt.git/tree/debian/gstreamer-qapt.postinst?h=kubuntu_wily_archive
[10:46] <sitter> hurr durr
[10:47] <sitter> yofel, sgclark: FYI that is broken https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359401
[13:14] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:49] <doko> sitter, Riddell, please could you forward one bug report to the kde bug tracker? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extra-cmake-modules/+bug/1543093
[14:49] <doko> or fix it =)
[14:59] <sitter> doko: is that with a rebuilt kcalcore?
[14:59] <sitter> the absolute path of public required libraries is put into the link interface of our cmake targets
[15:00] <sitter> $ grep -r ical.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/ 
[15:00] <sitter>  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/KF5CalendarCoreTargets.cmake:  INTERFACE_LINK_LIBRARIES "KF5::KDELibs4Support;/usr/lib/libical.so;/usr/lib/libicalss.so"
[15:01] <doko> sitter, no, so not cmake, ... will rebuild it
[16:22] <clivejo> sitter: what does "STILL UNSTABLE" actually mean?
[16:23] <sitter> clivejo: that it was unstable in the build before as well
[16:23] <sitter> i.e. no-change
[16:24] <clivejo> what is UNSTABLE then?
[16:32] <sgclark> clivejo: I usually find those to be jobs that have missing optional deps, but you need to read the logs to find warnings etc.
[16:32] <sgclark> unstable means something is not right but not broken beyond repair
[16:32] <clivejo> ah
[16:32] <sgclark> and morning all
[16:32] <sitter> clivejo: the opposite of no-change. i.e. it wasn't unstable before :P
[16:33] <clivejo> sitter: you are so helpful :P
[16:33] <sitter> ikr
[16:33] <sgclark> haha
[16:33] <clivejo> LOL
[16:34] <clivejo> oh talking about being helpful Debian guys have made a discission!
[16:34] <sgclark> ?
[16:34] <sitter> clivejo: as far as kci builds go unstable usually means lintian warning
[16:34] <clivejo> +kde-spectacle (15.12.2-1~) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
[16:35] <sitter> or generally speaking any sort of warning that is picked up by our rigging as such will cause the build to be marked unstable
[16:35] <sitter> missing qml dependencies also cause warnings for example
[16:36] <clivejo> sgclark: should I merge that into kubuntu_xenial?
[16:36] <clivejo> and re-upload it
[16:37] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/spectacle.git/commit/
[16:40] <sgclark> clivejo: seems like the right move to me. yofel has final call
[16:40] <yofel> do it
[16:41] <clivejo> wow
[16:41] <clivejo> scarey
[16:42] <clivejo> Ill do it a bit later
[16:42] <yofel> I need a scripting API for quassel, then I could scare you by scripting stuff like that XD
[16:42] <BluesKaj> I wish there we had more splash screen theme options , these unity colours are fugly , why do we have to put up with it
[16:42]  * yofel goes back into hiding
[16:42] <clivejo> yofel: we need the brains behind it!
[16:42] <yofel> well true
[16:42] <clivejo> a bot shouting "do it" would get me in a lot of trouble!
[16:42] <yofel> XD
[16:43] <clivejo> yofel: will you be about later?
[16:43] <yofel> even if I don't really have time to do much I can at least make decisions (and take the blame for it)
[16:43] <yofel> I will, but ping me if you need me
[16:43] <clivejo> I wanted help with those telepathy module things
[16:44] <clivejo> we so close to having apps completed!
[16:44] <clivejo> just need a final push
[16:44] <yofel> oh right, one thing about that: If debian and us have the same package name and only we have an epoch, then that package has to keep the epoch and needs manual changelog merging
[19:23] <clivejo> anyone noticed firefox going crazy with KCI ?
[19:25] <clivejo> http://s23.postimg.org/5a2vuag2j/kci_resources.jpg
[19:38] <clivejo> yofel: should I delete spectacle - 15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 from the PPA?
[19:38] <yofel> yes
[19:50] <clivejo> yofel: ok, deleted old package, merged with debian and commited to senile archive, uploaded to PPA and changed the entry in package-lists to display on QA
[19:55] <clivejo> yofel: can a package be merged with Debian at any time, or are there only certain windows we do it?  Id like the merge frameworks/kio master -> kubuntu_unstable as maxy has fixed the problem upstream
[20:01] <yofel> go ahead, it's fine during any time when adding features is fine as well
[20:01] <yofel> or if the merge would just pull a bugfix
[20:04] <clivejo> wasnt sure
[20:04] <clivejo> I kinda hacked it, but Maxy did it properly 
[20:05] <clivejo> German's are so efficient !
[20:10] <clivejo> sgclark: would it be ok for me to upload some of applications you have marked as done?
[20:11] <sgclark> upload where? what?
[20:11] <clivejo> apps to staging PPA
[20:11] <clivejo> you said you uploaded to the wrong PPA?
[20:12] <sgclark> did I miss more?
[20:12] <clivejo> there are a few still at 15.12.0
[20:16] <sgclark> I can get them
[20:16] <clivejo> just trying to get more green on QA
[20:35] <sgclark> ahh I see, these were victim to my broken git-buildpackage-ppa. I will rebuild and upload.
[20:35] <clivejo> I can do it if you are busy
[20:35] <sgclark> I can do it..
[20:36] <clivejo> ok :P I wont fight over it!
[20:37] <soee> i can test when they are ready :)
[20:37] <clivejo> wow, you will wait til they are ready :P
[20:37] <soee> ;D
[20:37] <clivejo> feeling better today?
[20:38] <soee> just a bit :(
[20:39] <clivejo> cold, man flu, tummy bug?
[20:41] <soee> i'm taking antibiotic so the biggest issue is if i shake my head it pains like hell
[20:41] <clivejo> dont shake your head then :P
[20:41] <soee> and i feel a bit dizzy :D
[20:42] <soee> best cure is to be able to test new stuff like apps or frameworks :)
[20:51] <clivejo> yofel: have we a deadline this Thursday?
[20:51] <yofel> feature freeze
[20:52] <clivejo> will we make it?
[20:52] <yofel> no
[20:52] <yofel> which means someone will have to file a bunch of FFE's
[20:55] <clivejo> :(
[20:58] <clivejo> yofel: can i just go ahead and try one of these ktp-* merges?
[20:58] <yofel> yes
[20:58] <clivejo> can hardly mess it up much more :/
[20:59] <clivejo> or can I :/
[21:01] <clivejo> eak
[21:03] <clivejo> ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job.  What does that mean?
[21:05] <clivejo> Is that something I did, or KCI not playing properly with Debian git?
[21:21] <clivejo> !info ktp-text-ui wily
[21:22] <clivejo> !info kde-telepathy-text-ui wily
[21:28] <clivejo> yofel: why is there other folders and files with the debian folder?
[21:28] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/ktp-text-ui.git/tree/
[21:28] <clivejo> are they source files?
[21:29] <clivejo> I dont understand why they are in git
[21:29] <yofel> oh, that package uses gbp
[21:29] <yofel> meh
[21:29] <yofel> uhm
[21:29] <yofel> now what do we do with that...
[21:32] <clivejo> are you thinking? or did you really ask me?
[21:32] <yofel> thinking
[21:32] <yofel> in cycles
[21:33] <yofel> do that: look over the packaging for stuff that you think are useful and apply that on our branch
[21:33] <yofel> and don't merge
[21:33] <clivejo> our branch is clean
[21:33] <yofel> this is the vanilla gbp workflow which includes the upstream source in the branch
[21:33] <yofel> but we don't use it
[21:33] <clivejo> Ive done the merge
[21:34] <yofel> then don't push that
[21:34] <clivejo> can I just delete all the folders and files bar the debian folder?
[21:34] <yofel> well you can
[21:38] <clivejo> ok, so Ive deleted all files bar the debian folder and staged the 8 files I made changes to
[21:45] <wxl> hey everyone on top of testing 14.04.4?
[21:47] <sgclark> no. 
[21:47]  * clivejo is having a mental break down in git merge hell
[21:48] <sgclark> not because we don' want to. just stack it on the 50 billion other things we don't have the resources to do.
[21:49] <wxl> ummmm you want some help then sgclark or just not doing it no matter what?
[21:49] <sgclark> my laptop is taking 3 years to generate source packages. I think it is officially dying
[21:49] <wxl> in reality it's probably no big deal. users can install an earlier version and just upgrade
[21:49] <sgclark> wxl: help is likely a better option. Though I am fairly certain we have no changes.
[21:50] <wxl> sgclark: k i'll get some of my folks on it. who's handling release management for you guys lately?
[21:50] <sgclark> we cannot even finish debian merges!!!
[21:50] <wxl> oh GAWD
[21:50]  * wxl hugs sgclark 
[21:50] <sgclark> oh well we gave it a vaian try haha
[21:50] <sgclark> valiant
[21:51] <clivejo> yofel: I think Im good to push now
[21:51] <wxl> hehehe
[21:51] <sgclark> wxl: yofel is our release manager
[21:51] <clivejo> will I give it a shot?
[21:51] <yofel> wxl: when't the deadline again? 
[21:51] <wxl> sgclark: yofel: i'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you know we're doing back to back releases of 14.04.4 and 16.04 beta 1. so next week is beta 1. you in?
[21:52] <wxl> yofel: thurs as usual
[21:52] <clivejo> yofel: The diff - http://paste.ubuntu.com/15085890/ 
[21:52] <yofel> then no
[21:53] <wxl> yofel: for both 14.04.4 (this week) and 16.04 beta 1 (next week?) -- both thursdays btw
[21:53] <wxl> ?
[21:53] <yofel> we need to get like 300 packages uploaded before a beta makes sense
[21:53] <yofel> oh
[21:53] <yofel> hm
[21:53] <wxl> yofel: also i can round up some testing for you.
[21:54] <wxl> fwiw i'm not trying to put the heat on, but want to help in any way i can
[21:54] <yofel> what's the changes for .4 again? HWE or just bugfixes?
[21:54] <wxl> yeah, just the usual crap really
[21:54] <wxl> whatever bugfixes there inevitably are aren't gamechangers
[21:54] <sgclark> wxl: we are short on packagers, not testing. not sure any help can be possible at this stage
[21:55] <yofel> nah, then lets skip .4, not worth spending our little time on
[21:55] <wxl> ok
[21:55] <yofel> but thanks for the reminder
[21:55] <wxl> no problem :)
[21:55] <wxl> yofel: you want to get back to me on beta 1 or make a decision now?
[21:55] <clivejo> yofel: would wxl be able to help with the installer?
[21:55] <ScottK> Would it make sense just to sync Kf5?  I don't know that there's any strong reason why Kubuntu needs a diff.
[21:56] <yofel> possibly
[21:56] <yofel> wxl: I'll get back to you
[21:56] <sgclark> ScottK: I want to sync 95% of everything!!! 
[21:56] <yofel> for the NEW stuff I was actually thinking about that
[21:56] <wxl> yofel: k great. thanks!
[21:56] <yofel> for the rest, does someone remember if there was diff we need?
[21:57]  * wxl skitters off..
[21:57] <ScottK> For Kf5 I think it particularly makes sense. since there's no artwork/branding/etc.
[21:57] <yofel> I'm pretty sure we can sync for 16.10, for 16.04 I'm not sure..
[21:57] <ScottK> Since 16.04 is going to be the base for Neon, seems like a decent idea not to start out way behind, but that's just me.
[21:58] <yofel> right
[21:58] <yofel> we will have to update it one way or another
[21:58] <sgclark> neon? no offense but does that have to do with us?
[21:58] <yofel> someone just has to look through stuff and check if there's any break/replaces etc. we need
[21:59] <yofel> sgclark: they're based on us
[21:59] <sgclark> yeah well rather than helping, they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft
[22:00] <yofel> so we should at the very least care about it as much as debian cares about us
[22:04] <clivejo> "they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft" when, where?!?
[22:05] <sgclark> clivejo: I am dropping it. carry on.
[22:07] <clivejo> sgclark: ok
[22:08] <clivejo> sgclark: did you upload kopete?
[22:08] <sgclark> yeah sorry seem my laptop wifi is crap, got it plugged and uploading now.. again. sorry.
[22:09] <clivejo> ah I see it
[22:09] <clivejo> uploaded 33seconds ago
[22:13] <clivejo> how come with ktp-text-ui we have an epoch and Debian dont?
[22:19] <clivejo> yofel sgclark: ktp-text-ui is building but is looking for optional  * Qt5TextToSpeech, anyone know what package provides that?
[22:19] <yofel> no, I believe that's not packaged
[22:20] <sgclark> yofel: clivejo is a qt modyle that not even released
[22:20] <sgclark> module*
[22:20] <clivejo> ah, so safe to ignore?
[22:20] <sgclark> yep
[22:20] <clivejo> :)
[22:20] <yofel> so much for depending on released stuff..
[22:20] <sgclark> ikr
[22:21] <sgclark> I went through that with CI , there are aware that no one has it available..
[22:21]  * clivejo does a little dance
[22:21] <sgclark> they are*
[22:37] <clivejo> arrrrr Im confused
[22:38] <clivejo> if Debian released 15.12.1-2 and we have an epoch then our version should be 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 ?
[22:39] <clivejo> or is it 4:15.12.1-2ubuntu1 ?
[22:39] <sgclark> I would guess second as epoch does not change that they have uploaded 2 times
[22:40] <sgclark> yofel ^ ?
[22:41] <clivejo> do epochs not override everything else?
[22:44] <clivejo> sgclark: kget, kgpg, khangman, kio-extras, kiriki all marked on Trello as done, but still appearing as 15.12.0 on QA, have you uploaded them?
[22:45] <sgclark> gosh patience my  friend. I am working on them.
[22:45] <clivejo> Im nearly as soee huh?
[22:46] <clivejo> as impatient 
[22:49] <clivejo> yippee, kio-extras and kiriki are green
[22:56] <yofel> seond
[22:56] <yofel> *second
[23:05] <clivejo> in ktp-kded-module it seems that debian have changed the name
[23:05] <clivejo> we should do the same and drop our epoch?
[23:14] <clivejo> valorie: where are our daisy chains?
[23:15]  * clivejo feels unloved
[23:26]  * valorie wraps a daisy chain around clivejo's head
[23:27] <valorie> i'm gonna brave the cold, damp air and go plant a couple pots of droopy bulbs
[23:29] <yofel> clivejo: yes
[23:40] <clivejo> yofel: LP is rejecting my upload of ktp-kded-integration-module
[23:40] <yofel> why?
[23:40] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/238653268/upload_9016596_log.txt
[23:42] <yofel> well, missing epoch
[23:42] <clivejo> debian changed the name to ktp-kded-integration-module instead of ktp-kded-module so I dropped it
[23:43] <yofel> you'll have to add it back
[23:43] <yofel> the binary already had the epoch and was called the same
[23:44] <yofel> or wait
[23:44] <yofel> ah yes
[23:44] <yofel>  kde-telepathy-integration-module | 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | xenial/universe         | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
[23:44] <yofel> bummer
[23:45] <clivejo> it was renamed but epoch wasnt dropped :(
[23:51] <clivejo> yofel: would you look at marble?
[23:52] <yofel> after sleep, that thing's scary
[23:52] <clivejo> my head hurts!
[23:53] <clivejo> think Ill call it a day