[00:02] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting#Next_Meeting [07:19] !info libqapt2 xenial [07:19] Package libqapt2 does not exist in xenial [07:19] !info muon xenial [07:19] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 252 kB, installed size 1359 kB [10:46] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/qapt.git/tree/debian/gstreamer-qapt.postinst?h=kubuntu_wily_archive [10:46] hurr durr [10:47] yofel, sgclark: FYI that is broken https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359401 [10:47] KDE bug 359401 in general "First time user/install of linux kubuntu, and dragon player won't work." [Grave,Resolved: downstream] [13:14] howdy folks === Sho__ is now known as Sho_ [14:49] sitter, Riddell, please could you forward one bug report to the kde bug tracker? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extra-cmake-modules/+bug/1543093 [14:49] Launchpad bug 1543093 in ktnef (Ubuntu) "fails to build with No rule to make target '/usr/lib/libical.so'" [Undecided,New] [14:49] or fix it =) [14:59] doko: is that with a rebuilt kcalcore? [14:59] the absolute path of public required libraries is put into the link interface of our cmake targets [15:00] $ grep -r ical.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/ [15:00] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CalendarCore/KF5CalendarCoreTargets.cmake: INTERFACE_LINK_LIBRARIES "KF5::KDELibs4Support;/usr/lib/libical.so;/usr/lib/libicalss.so" [15:01] sitter, no, so not cmake, ... will rebuild it [16:22] sitter: what does "STILL UNSTABLE" actually mean? [16:23] clivejo: that it was unstable in the build before as well [16:23] i.e. no-change [16:24] what is UNSTABLE then? [16:32] clivejo: I usually find those to be jobs that have missing optional deps, but you need to read the logs to find warnings etc. [16:32] unstable means something is not right but not broken beyond repair [16:32] ah [16:32] and morning all [16:32] clivejo: the opposite of no-change. i.e. it wasn't unstable before :P [16:33] sitter: you are so helpful :P [16:33] ikr [16:33] haha [16:33] LOL [16:34] oh talking about being helpful Debian guys have made a discission! [16:34] ? [16:34] clivejo: as far as kci builds go unstable usually means lintian warning [16:34] +kde-spectacle (15.12.2-1~) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium [16:35] or generally speaking any sort of warning that is picked up by our rigging as such will cause the build to be marked unstable [16:35] missing qml dependencies also cause warnings for example [16:36] sgclark: should I merge that into kubuntu_xenial? [16:36] and re-upload it [16:37] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/spectacle.git/commit/ [16:40] clivejo: seems like the right move to me. yofel has final call [16:40] do it [16:41] wow [16:41] scarey [16:42] Ill do it a bit later [16:42] I need a scripting API for quassel, then I could scare you by scripting stuff like that XD [16:42] I wish there we had more splash screen theme options , these unity colours are fugly , why do we have to put up with it [16:42] * yofel goes back into hiding [16:42] yofel: we need the brains behind it! [16:42] well true [16:42] a bot shouting "do it" would get me in a lot of trouble! [16:42] XD [16:43] yofel: will you be about later? [16:43] even if I don't really have time to do much I can at least make decisions (and take the blame for it) [16:43] I will, but ping me if you need me [16:43] I wanted help with those telepathy module things [16:44] we so close to having apps completed! [16:44] just need a final push [16:44] oh right, one thing about that: If debian and us have the same package name and only we have an epoch, then that package has to keep the epoch and needs manual changelog merging [19:23] anyone noticed firefox going crazy with KCI ? [19:25] http://s23.postimg.org/5a2vuag2j/kci_resources.jpg [19:38] yofel: should I delete spectacle - 15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 from the PPA? [19:38] yes [19:50] yofel: ok, deleted old package, merged with debian and commited to senile archive, uploaded to PPA and changed the entry in package-lists to display on QA [19:55] yofel: can a package be merged with Debian at any time, or are there only certain windows we do it? Id like the merge frameworks/kio master -> kubuntu_unstable as maxy has fixed the problem upstream [20:01] go ahead, it's fine during any time when adding features is fine as well [20:01] or if the merge would just pull a bugfix [20:04] wasnt sure [20:04] I kinda hacked it, but Maxy did it properly [20:05] German's are so efficient ! [20:10] sgclark: would it be ok for me to upload some of applications you have marked as done? [20:11] upload where? what? [20:11] apps to staging PPA [20:11] you said you uploaded to the wrong PPA? [20:12] did I miss more? [20:12] there are a few still at 15.12.0 [20:16] I can get them [20:16] just trying to get more green on QA [20:35] ahh I see, these were victim to my broken git-buildpackage-ppa. I will rebuild and upload. [20:35] I can do it if you are busy [20:35] I can do it.. [20:36] ok :P I wont fight over it! [20:37] i can test when they are ready :) [20:37] wow, you will wait til they are ready :P [20:37] ;D [20:37] feeling better today? [20:38] just a bit :( [20:39] cold, man flu, tummy bug? [20:41] i'm taking antibiotic so the biggest issue is if i shake my head it pains like hell [20:41] dont shake your head then :P [20:41] and i feel a bit dizzy :D [20:42] best cure is to be able to test new stuff like apps or frameworks :) [20:51] yofel: have we a deadline this Thursday? [20:51] feature freeze [20:52] will we make it? [20:52] no [20:52] which means someone will have to file a bunch of FFE's [20:55] :( [20:58] yofel: can i just go ahead and try one of these ktp-* merges? [20:58] yes [20:58] can hardly mess it up much more :/ [20:59] or can I :/ [21:01] eak [21:03] ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job. What does that mean? [21:05] Is that something I did, or KCI not playing properly with Debian git? [21:21] !info ktp-text-ui wily [21:21] Package ktp-text-ui does not exist in wily [21:22] !info kde-telepathy-text-ui wily [21:22] kde-telepathy-text-ui (source: ktp-text-ui): Telepathy text chat UI for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 586 kB, installed size 2434 kB [21:28] yofel: why is there other folders and files with the debian folder? [21:28] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/ktp-text-ui.git/tree/ [21:28] are they source files? [21:29] I dont understand why they are in git [21:29] oh, that package uses gbp [21:29] meh [21:29] uhm [21:29] now what do we do with that... [21:32] are you thinking? or did you really ask me? [21:32] thinking [21:32] in cycles [21:33] do that: look over the packaging for stuff that you think are useful and apply that on our branch [21:33] and don't merge [21:33] our branch is clean [21:33] this is the vanilla gbp workflow which includes the upstream source in the branch [21:33] but we don't use it [21:33] Ive done the merge [21:34] then don't push that [21:34] can I just delete all the folders and files bar the debian folder? [21:34] well you can [21:38] ok, so Ive deleted all files bar the debian folder and staged the 8 files I made changes to [21:45] hey everyone on top of testing 14.04.4? [21:47] no. [21:47] * clivejo is having a mental break down in git merge hell [21:48] not because we don' want to. just stack it on the 50 billion other things we don't have the resources to do. [21:49] ummmm you want some help then sgclark or just not doing it no matter what? [21:49] my laptop is taking 3 years to generate source packages. I think it is officially dying [21:49] in reality it's probably no big deal. users can install an earlier version and just upgrade [21:49] wxl: help is likely a better option. Though I am fairly certain we have no changes. [21:50] sgclark: k i'll get some of my folks on it. who's handling release management for you guys lately? [21:50] we cannot even finish debian merges!!! [21:50] oh GAWD [21:50] * wxl hugs sgclark [21:50] oh well we gave it a vaian try haha [21:50] valiant [21:51] yofel: I think Im good to push now [21:51] hehehe [21:51] wxl: yofel is our release manager [21:51] will I give it a shot? [21:51] wxl: when't the deadline again? [21:51] sgclark: yofel: i'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you know we're doing back to back releases of 14.04.4 and 16.04 beta 1. so next week is beta 1. you in? [21:52] yofel: thurs as usual [21:52] yofel: The diff - http://paste.ubuntu.com/15085890/ [21:52] then no [21:53] yofel: for both 14.04.4 (this week) and 16.04 beta 1 (next week?) -- both thursdays btw [21:53] ? [21:53] we need to get like 300 packages uploaded before a beta makes sense [21:53] oh [21:53] hm [21:53] yofel: also i can round up some testing for you. [21:54] fwiw i'm not trying to put the heat on, but want to help in any way i can [21:54] what's the changes for .4 again? HWE or just bugfixes? [21:54] yeah, just the usual crap really [21:54] whatever bugfixes there inevitably are aren't gamechangers [21:54] wxl: we are short on packagers, not testing. not sure any help can be possible at this stage [21:55] nah, then lets skip .4, not worth spending our little time on [21:55] ok [21:55] but thanks for the reminder [21:55] no problem :) [21:55] yofel: you want to get back to me on beta 1 or make a decision now? [21:55] yofel: would wxl be able to help with the installer? [21:55] Would it make sense just to sync Kf5? I don't know that there's any strong reason why Kubuntu needs a diff. [21:56] possibly [21:56] wxl: I'll get back to you [21:56] ScottK: I want to sync 95% of everything!!! [21:56] for the NEW stuff I was actually thinking about that [21:56] yofel: k great. thanks! [21:56] for the rest, does someone remember if there was diff we need? [21:57] * wxl skitters off.. [21:57] For Kf5 I think it particularly makes sense. since there's no artwork/branding/etc. [21:57] I'm pretty sure we can sync for 16.10, for 16.04 I'm not sure.. [21:57] Since 16.04 is going to be the base for Neon, seems like a decent idea not to start out way behind, but that's just me. [21:58] right [21:58] we will have to update it one way or another [21:58] neon? no offense but does that have to do with us? [21:58] someone just has to look through stuff and check if there's any break/replaces etc. we need [21:59] sgclark: they're based on us [21:59] yeah well rather than helping, they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft [22:00] so we should at the very least care about it as much as debian cares about us [22:04] "they referring to us as poor maintainers. so pft" when, where?!? [22:05] clivejo: I am dropping it. carry on. [22:07] sgclark: ok [22:08] sgclark: did you upload kopete? [22:08] yeah sorry seem my laptop wifi is crap, got it plugged and uploading now.. again. sorry. [22:09] ah I see it [22:09] uploaded 33seconds ago [22:13] how come with ktp-text-ui we have an epoch and Debian dont? [22:19] yofel sgclark: ktp-text-ui is building but is looking for optional * Qt5TextToSpeech, anyone know what package provides that? [22:19] no, I believe that's not packaged [22:20] yofel: clivejo is a qt modyle that not even released [22:20] module* [22:20] ah, so safe to ignore? [22:20] yep [22:20] :) [22:20] so much for depending on released stuff.. [22:20] ikr [22:21] I went through that with CI , there are aware that no one has it available.. [22:21] * clivejo does a little dance [22:21] they are* [22:37] arrrrr Im confused [22:38] if Debian released 15.12.1-2 and we have an epoch then our version should be 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 ? [22:39] or is it 4:15.12.1-2ubuntu1 ? [22:39] I would guess second as epoch does not change that they have uploaded 2 times [22:40] yofel ^ ? [22:41] do epochs not override everything else? [22:44] sgclark: kget, kgpg, khangman, kio-extras, kiriki all marked on Trello as done, but still appearing as 15.12.0 on QA, have you uploaded them? [22:45] gosh patience my friend. I am working on them. [22:45] Im nearly as soee huh? [22:46] as impatient [22:49] yippee, kio-extras and kiriki are green [22:56] seond [22:56] *second [23:05] in ktp-kded-module it seems that debian have changed the name [23:05] we should do the same and drop our epoch? [23:14] valorie: where are our daisy chains? [23:15] * clivejo feels unloved [23:26] * valorie wraps a daisy chain around clivejo's head [23:27] i'm gonna brave the cold, damp air and go plant a couple pots of droopy bulbs [23:29] clivejo: yes [23:40] yofel: LP is rejecting my upload of ktp-kded-integration-module [23:40] why? [23:40] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/238653268/upload_9016596_log.txt [23:42] well, missing epoch [23:42] debian changed the name to ktp-kded-integration-module instead of ktp-kded-module so I dropped it [23:43] you'll have to add it back [23:43] the binary already had the epoch and was called the same [23:44] or wait [23:44] ah yes [23:44] kde-telepathy-integration-module | 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | xenial/universe | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x [23:44] bummer [23:45] it was renamed but epoch wasnt dropped :( [23:51] yofel: would you look at marble? [23:52] after sleep, that thing's scary [23:52] my head hurts! [23:53] think Ill call it a day