pittiGood morning07:39
pittiSweet5hark1: your pastebin timed out07:40
didrocksgood morning pitti, how was your week-end?07:42
pittibonjour didrocks ! ć'était bien, nous étaions à Dresden pour le 30eme anniversaire d'une amie07:45
didrockspitti: ah super ! pas trop fatigué ? :)07:46
pittididrocks: une grande fête07:46
seb128good morning desktopers!07:47
pittididrocks: on n'a dormi pas beaucoup en fait :) (il n'y a que beaucoup d'alcool ☺ )07:47
seb128hey didrocks pitti07:47
pittibonjour seb128, ça va ?07:47
seb128pitti, oui, et toi ?07:47
pittididrocks: mais je vais bien aussi, la derniére nuit était assez longue07:47
seb128beaucoup d'alcool ? t'as pas la gueule de bois ? ;-)07:47
didrocksre seb128 :)07:48
* seb128 uses the opportunity to hand pitti some french expressions07:48
pittiseb128: nous étaions à Dresden pour le 30eme anniversaire d'une amie, une grande fête07:48
didrockspitti: heureusement qu'il y a la semaine de travail pour se reposer, hein ! :)07:48
pittiseb128: hah, je ne connais pas cette phrase :)07:49
pittiseb128: mais non, je ne suis pas mal aux cheveux07:49
seb128"je n'ai"07:49
didrocks(je n'ai pas mal aux cheveux)07:49
pitti(où "je n'ai pas mal"?)07:49
pittiah :)07:49
pittiavoir, avoir, faire, faire, passer, passer07:49
pittitout les verbes en français !07:50
seb128see, french is easy :p07:50
* seb128 ducks07:50
seb128session restart, brb07:52
willcookemorning all09:05
seb128hey willcooke Laney09:05
pittihey Laney, how are you? you have quite some echo there!09:05
seb128how are things on the big island today? ;-)09:05
willcookeSunny and cold.  Looks like it snowed over night, but only about 2 mm09:06
Laneyhey seb128 pitti and willcooke!09:08
Laneynice and chilly09:09
didrockshey Laney, willcooke09:09
Laneyand didrocks!09:09
Laneyhow is it going?09:09
didrocksgood, thanks! yourself?09:11
Laneywe went wild camping at the weekend09:12
Laneywell, bivvying09:12
seb128had fun?09:17
seb128did you get managed to avoid the bears? ;-)09:17
Laneymostly scared of dog walkers in the morning09:18
Laney(and badgers!)09:18
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seb128willcooke, Laney, do we IRC or hangout?09:56
willcookeseb128, I'm easy.  I think HO might be faster though?09:56
seb128k, let me find a quiet room then09:57
willcookeseb128, if it's easier for you to IRC, we can do that09:57
seb128no, hangout is fine09:57
seb128I just need to move next room with the laptop, it's easy enough ;-)09:57
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Laneywhere are you?!?!?!09:59
seb128on my way10:00
Laneyno I meant what kind of noisy place are you in :P10:01
seb128oh, not noisy, just co-working with somebody else10:01
seb128so I don't want to be speaking/disturbing10:01
Laneyyou go to a coworking place?10:02
* Laney joins the hangout instead..10:02
seb128no, just meet with friends sometimes at ourplaces10:02
Sweet5hark1pitti: yeah, I found that only fail on that machine (running in a VM) -- I got an image created on another machine. Dunno, if its being in a VM, network settings or something else that caused trouble there ...10:14
pittiSweet5hark1: ah, nested qemu? what was the error you got?10:14
Sweet5hark1pitti: timeout when setting up the image -- it was looping in some apt install runs claiming "the following packages will be REMOVED by this: <...>" with <...> being a single or a handful different packages each time10:16
pittiSweet5hark1: ah, that sounds like the kind of fun you get with nested QEMU indeed; what's your host release?10:17
pittiSweet5hark1: I found that xenial-on-xenial with "-cpu host" works reasonably well10:17
pittibut nested qemu in trusty's qemu less so10:17
Sweet5hark1pitti: maybe it was in some kind of dependency hell.10:18
seb128Sweet5hark1, hey! had a good w.e?10:20
Sweet5hark1pitti: that was a adt-run trying to get a xenial image on xenial. The outer xenial is a VirtualBox VM running on a non Ubuntu-system as a host (that _should_ be isolated though shouldnt it).10:20
Sweet5hark1seb128: yes, weekend was pretty nice. Was window shopping for an ebike ;)10:21
pittiSweet5hark1: ah, so you don't even have kvm in the inner QEMU -- that's going to be glacially slow..10:21
seb128Sweet5hark1, nice!10:22
seb128Sweet5hark1, getting anywhere with the autopkgtest issues?10:28
seb128if you are confident it's an issue with the setup and not libreoffice we might override while you continue debugging?10:28
seb128not point blocking 5.1 while you debug infra issues10:28
Sweet5hark1seb128: its some kind of infrastructure issue (if you include e.g. 'autopkgtests are missing deps' in that). I ran the tests outside adt-run and they completed fine.10:30
seb128Laney, pitti, ^ wdyt about unblocking libreoffice?10:30
pittican do -- I'd force-badtest it, as it blocks a lot of other packages too10:31
pittibut like that you won't notice if some other package update breaks LibO, so better fix them again :)10:31
pittiSweet5hark1: I can give you access to an affected instance if you need to (but should be fairly easy to reproduce locally)10:32
Sweet5hark1pitti: yeah, Im running adt-run on native hardware now -- lets see how that goes ... so: no, not wanting access to that box (yet).10:35
Sweet5hark1pitti, seb128: as the error message is pretty much a top level "cant find hsqldb1.8.0", the fun part will be tracking that though 20 abstraction layers in libreoffice to the original root cause ...10:37
Sweet5hark1pitti: hmm, running libreoffice tests on either wily or xenial break with "no space left on device" locally. Is there a convenient way to resize the image?10:49
pittiSweet5hark1: ah, yes, sorry -- add "-s 50" to the adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud invocation10:56
pittithat'll increase it by 50 GB10:56
pittiand it's qcow2, so it should only grow to what it actually uses10:56
Sweet5hark1pitti: ah, thanks.10:56
* Sweet5hark1 rebuilds images10:56
pittiSweet5hark1: I'll check here what actual difference that makes, I could just bump the default10:57
seb128Laney, want to take on 1545308?11:07
seb128bug #154530811:07
ubot5`bug 1545308 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "Backport upstream fix for memleak" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154530811:07
pittiqemu-img: The new size must be a multiple of 51211:08
pittiSweet5hark1: ^ sorry, -s 50 doesn't seem to work, hang on11:08
pitti(it used to in the past, meh)11:09
Sweet5hark1pitti: k, thanks for the heads-up11:09
pittiSweet5hark1: argh, of course -- "-s 50G", not "-s 50"11:09
pitti50 bytes won't help much11:10
pittiSweet5hark1: either way, I'll make that the new default11:10
Sweet5hark1pitti: hah, I even wrote that intuitively and then "corrected" it to "-s 50" ;)11:10
pitti--help even shows "default: 4G"11:11
Laneyseb128: could do11:14
seb128Laney, thanks11:14
Laneynot so many fixes in that branch for a bugfix release11:15
Laneyanyone running wily ?11:16
Laneyverify the gstreamer srus please :)11:16
seb128I don't have wily installs here, but if we don't find anyone I'm going to give a round of VM testing (but likely after feature freeze)11:18
seb128pitti, we got a bug about the evolution translations missing, I reassigned to langpack-o-matic so I'm unsure if that's correct? bug #154521211:18
ubot5`bug 1545212 in langpack-o-matic "Evolution 3.18.4 package does not include translations" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154521211:18
desrtgreetings desktop peeps11:21
Sweet5hark1pitti: mirrors not playing nicely with U+1/proposed and autopkgtests? http://pastebin.com/9Z4bq4sd11:22
seb128hey desrt!11:23
seb128desrt, had a good w.e?11:23
seb128desrt, in what tz are you this week?11:23
desrtstill having it, in fact ;)11:23
seb128oh, right11:23
desrtback in America/Toronto :)11:23
seb128today is an holiday for you11:23
* Sweet5hark1 giigles11:23
desrtbut trying to hold on to the favourable jetlag11:23
seb128desrt, early to wake up on a VAC day ;-)11:23
* Sweet5hark1 wonders if one can engineer an all-holiday workyear by jetsetting.11:24
Sweet5hark1would be exhausting though, I assume.11:24
pittiSweet5hark1: rather looks like networking is broken in your VM somehow?11:26
* desrt prepares the syringe^Wfrench press11:26
Sweet5hark1pitti: thats running on native hardware and e.g. wily images seem to be happy ...11:27
Sweet5hark1pitti: hmmm, "adt-run --shell libreoffice -- --apt-pocket=proposed --- qemu adt-xenial-amd64-cloud.img" aborts before I get a shell and leaving out "libreoffice" does make adt-run unhappy.11:36
pittiSweet5hark1: oh, you need to add -U too, and no --11:39
pittiadt-run --apt-pocket=proposed -U --shell libreoffice --- qemu adt-xenial-amd64-cloud.img11:39
Sweet5hark1pitti: still throws me out before I have a shell. (pinging archive.ubuntu.com works just fine from the wily host system btw_11:41
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pittiSweet5hark1: can you run: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 adt-xenial-amd64-cloud.img -snapshot12:18
pittiSweet5hark1: then log in (ubuntu/ubuntu) and look what's wrong with the network config?12:19
pittiSweet5hark1: sorry, I've never heard about that kind of problem before, so I don't have some helpful hint right now12:19
pittiSweet5hark1: note that "ping" doesn't work in qemu, so use "wget -O- http://archive.ubuntu.com" or so12:19
pittior just apt-get pudate12:19
ogra_the pu date !12:21
Sweet5hark1pitti: hmmm, /etc/resolv.conf is empty (except for comments). I assume it shouldnt?12:21
pittiSweet5hark1: right, it shouldn't be; is it a link to /run/resolvconf ?12:22
pittiSweet5hark1: what does 'ip a' say, do you even have an interface that's up?12:22
Sweet5hark1pitti: to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and yeah, ifconfig shows I only have a lo ethernet interface ...12:23
Sweet5hark1(very secure system, that.)12:23
pittiSweet5hark1: you mean you have *no* ethernet interface at all? not even a "down" one?12:24
pittiyou should have an "ens3"12:24
pittior perhaps eth0 (depending on the qemu version/config) -- do you have any kind of custom qemu configuration somewhere?12:25
Sweet5hark1oh, "ip a" shows I have a ens3, which is down12:25
pittiSweet5hark1: do you have /etc/network/interfaces.d/ens3.cfg ? or any file in that dir?12:26
pittiSweet5hark1: it sounds like the setup-testbed script failed early on, before it got to setting up that stuff12:27
Sweet5hark1pitti: does this mean it has the physical eth0 from the host (which is unplugged, as I use wifi for connectivity?)12:27
pittiSweet5hark1: can you add -v to the adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud command line, and copy&paste the output? I figure there's an error message somewhere12:28
pittiSweet5hark1: no, qemu emulates network interfaces for the guest12:28
pittiSweet5hark1: btw, to speed this up: please do this:12:28
pitticd /tmp/12:29
pittiwget http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img12:29
pittiln -s . current12:29
pittiln -s . xenial12:29
pittiadt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud -o /tmp -v --cloud-image-url=file:///tmp/12:29
pittiSweet5hark1: ^ this will download  the image only once, adn adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud will then take it from /tmp/12:29
pittimuch faster for several iterations12:29
Sweet5hark1pitti: /etc/networ/interfaces.d has no ens3.cfg ... but it has a eth0.cfg (and dmesg ens3.cfg was renamed from eth0)12:29
pittiSweet5hark1: what's the version of your autopkgtest package?12:30
Sweet5hark1pitti: on the host or in the image?12:31
pittiSweet5hark1: it doesn't exist on the image; on the host (where you run adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud)12:31
Sweet5hark1pitti: host: 3.17.4 on wily12:32
pittiSweet5hark1: please upgrade to the xenial one12:32
pittiSweet5hark1: cloud images and cloud-init changed the network config like three times, the wily version was before that12:32
pittiautopkgtest | 3.19.2~ubuntu15.10.1 | wily-backports   | source, all12:32
pittiSweet5hark1: ^ this should be fine12:33
Sweet5hark1pitti: k, will do12:33
pittiok, next time I'll ask for the version first :)12:33
Sweet5hark1pitti: ;) -- do I need to recreate the images now?12:38
pittiSweet5hark1: yes, as they are broken12:38
Sweet5hark1pitti: k, willdo12:38
pittiSweet5hark1: well, you could manually fix them, by changing eth0 to ens3 in the ifupdown config, if you prefer12:38
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Sweet5hark1pitti: when debugging a "works fine on the desktop, doesnt work in the test-env" issue, whatever I find in a "testenv that I turned the bowels upsidedown" will likely not help me much (might even be misleading)12:40
* Sweet5hark1 recreates images.12:40
Sweet5hark1pitti: thanks for the hints12:40
flocculantanyone of you wonderful desktop peeps listening to music while you work in xenial? do you have issues with cd's from rhythmbox ? real outlier - anyone use clementine? if so is it working for you :)13:15
flocculantI obviously assume that you all whistle while you work ;)13:16
seb128flocculant, you mean "CD" like the physical media rotating in the drive and making your laptop vibrate and make noise?13:24
seb128or do you mean listing the digital format albums in rb?13:24
seb128oh, and does your question is what is suggest, that you use clementine and have issue and are asking if we get the same ones in rb? if so did you try rb yourself?13:26
ngaiocan someone please help me assign bug #1545450 to the correct package? It's a serious or even critical bug in 16.04.13:55
ubot5`bug 1545450 in unity (Ubuntu) "Severe Qt visual corruption with default Qt theme under Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154545013:55
willcookeTrevinho, seb128 - any ideas?  ^14:00
Sweet5hark1pitti: \o/ can reproduce the error in adt-run.14:09
seb128ngaio, willcooke, yeah, seems like an old bug14:09
seb128ngaio, willcooke, it doesn't do it if OVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 is set14:12
ngaioseb128, where / how do I set OVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 ?14:14
seb128ngaio, "OVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 vlc14:14
ngaiothat fixes it for me too14:17
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flocculantseb128: I don't have anything as archaic as a cd player - but bug 1539700 appears that others are seeing what I am seeing with clementine bug 153718414:34
ubot5`bug 1539700 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Audio cd's play with background buzzing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153970014:34
ubot5`bug 1537184 in clementine (Ubuntu) "'Buzzing' during playback" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153718414:34
flocculanthard to be precise but iirc - the clementine issue appeared shortly after a gstreamer update in January - I tend to leave things with clementine for a while as I use the dev version of it14:35
flocculantif I use alsa instead of pulse - works fine14:35
seb128flocculant, I don't get the issue here, but it looks like it's something worth keeping an eye on14:39
willcooketrying to find an audio cd....14:40
flocculantseb128: thanks for looking :)14:40
willcookeseb128, flocculant - yeah, same issue here14:40
flocculantwillcooke: thank the lord ... thought I was going nuttier :)14:40
willcookesounds like a sample rate thinh14:40
seb128do you get this on any file?14:41
flocculantwillcooke: in clementine I fiddled with sample rates - no change14:41
seb128willcooke, using rb?14:41
flocculantinstalled gstreamer.blah-alsa and use that and all is back to normal14:41
flocculantseb128: any sound file that I have - ranging from mp3 to flac14:42
seb128k, I don't get it here14:42
seb128flocculant, how do you "use that"?14:42
willcookeseb128, this is on my Inspirion with an external dvd/cd writer14:42
willcookewith an install from daily on Friday14:42
seb128willcooke, I don't think there is a need for medias, mp3 on disk should do it14:42
seb128the use of "cd" was confusing in the question14:43
flocculantseb128: not sure what you mean by "how do you "use that"?"14:43
willcookeTheMuso uploaded a new Pulse the other day I think14:43
seb128flocculant, <flocculant> installed gstreamer.blah-alsa and use that and all is back to normal14:43
seb128flocculant, how do you tell it to use alsa?14:43
flocculantoic - choose alsa playback in clementine preferences14:44
seb128willcooke, yeah, the new pulse is from feb 11 but those reports are from january14:44
seb128flocculant, I see14:44
flocculantseb128: I also tried changing sample rate there alone and in conjunction - just appears to be pulse playback14:45
flocculantseb128 willcooke - what I did find that it's only file playback in clementine which fails - any other player and it's ok - main reason I flagged it recently here is rhythmbox cd playback also falls over14:45
seb128flocculant, willcooke, does "gst-launch-1.0 audiotestsrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! pulsesink" have buzzing issues for you?14:46
seb128flocculant, what do you call "cd playback"?14:46
seb128flocculant, you mean it doesn't happen on single song playback?14:46
flocculantno buzzing with that14:47
flocculantseb128: playing an audio cd - but I'm just repeating other people's issues there - don't have one available personally14:47
flocculantwhich is the 1539700 bug ^^14:48
seb128flocculant, it's still confusing to me, do you get the issue at all or are you repeating reports from others?14:49
flocculantseb128: I get the issue with clementine14:49
seb128flocculant, but not with rhythmbox?14:49
seb128flocculant, willcooke, does "gst-launch-1.0 playbin uri=file:///tmp/song.mp3" buzz for you?14:50
seb128where /tmp/song.mp3 is a song you copied14:50
flocculantseb128: nor amarok/audacious/exaile/banshee14:50
flocculantseb128: that plays fine14:51
flocculantseb128: I'm just talking about the rhythmbox audio cd issue because it "appears" to be the same issue14:52
seb128flocculant, it happens if you have crossfade enabled in rb -> preferences -> playback14:53
seb128not without it14:53
seb128that wouldn't be the first time crossfading creates issues14:53
seb128can you confirm?14:54
flocculanttrying to14:55
flocculanthad to install it first :D14:55
flocculanthad to restart rhythmbox14:56
pittididrocks: FYI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure?action=diff&rev2=55&rev1=54 (in case you need this for u-make)15:04
didrockspitti: thx! (but no, I don't really need it as I have some options already to take from the ppa/archive, I don't want to build it locally first)15:06
pittididrocks: ack; I need it for doing tests for upstream systemd PPAs, so I just added that15:06
pittierr, s/PPAs/PRs/15:06
xnoxdoko, libgfortran3 : Depends: gcc-5-base (= 5.3.1-5ubuntu3) but 5.3.1-7ubuntu1 is to be installed => looks odd in many ways.15:07
xnoxi'll wait/try to find -8ubuntu3 stuff.15:07
didrockspitti: making sense!15:07
xnoxdoko, wait, i think i have missmatched mirrors.15:08
flocculantseb128 willcooke - so I removed gstreamer1.0-plugin-base from a vm - installed the wily version and clementine worked as expected, upgraded to the current xenial version and it did the 'buzzy' thing15:10
seb128flocculant, willcooke, yeah, I just hit the same conclusion15:11
flocculantseb128: you want me to comment on bug? I see you duped my clementine on to the newer rhythmbox one just now15:12
seb128flocculant, if you want sure15:12
seb128flocculant, willcooke, that reproduces btw15:12
seb128gst-launch-1.0 -v audiotestsrc wave=silence ! queue ! adder name=a ! audio/x-raw,format=S16LE,rate=44100,channels=2 ! audioconvert ! autoaudiosink   uridecodebin uri=file:///tmp/song.mp3 ! audioconvert ! queue ! a.15:12
rickspencer3hey all, I have new laptop running Xenial, and I am getting 5-10 freezes per day15:13
rickspencer3it has Intel® Bay Trail graphics15:13
rickspencer3thoughts wrt debugging?15:13
seb128rickspencer3, do you have any bt or gpu hand report in xorg.0.log/syslog?15:13
seb128tjaalton, ^15:13
rickspencer3seb128, something like>15:15
rickspencer3there are a few of them lying around15:15
tjaaltonthat looks normal15:15
seb128rickspencer3, that log has no backtrace/error that I can tell15:15
tjaaltonbut if it's a system freeze then there probably aren't any logs from it15:16
rickspencer3let me look at some others15:16
rickspencer3the .old one looks the same15:16
rickspencer3I put it here just in case: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15075065/15:17
seb128rickspencer3, no :-/15:17
tjaaltonto rule out if the intel x driver is to blame, you might move it aside so it'll pick up the fallback driver instead ("modesetting")15:17
seb128is the system freezing?15:18
seb128e.g can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a vt?15:18
flocculantwillcooke: ftr it took a restart of rhythmbox for crossfading to cause me problem15:18
tjaaltonso, move /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so somewhere15:18
seb128tjaalton, is that going to mean software rendering and slow/more cpu usage?15:19
tjaaltonno, it'll still use the actual dri driver for opengl15:19
rickspencer3tjaalton, so I did thisL15:21
rickspencer3udo mv  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so.backup15:21
rickspencer3now I just reboot and use the computer until it freezes again, or doesn't?15:21
rickspencer3for anyone monitoring my network activity, I am watching netflix purely as a test, it's work ;)15:26
willcookeseb128, bug #154576415:27
ubot5`bug 1545764 in gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "Playing a CD in Rhythmbox with cross fading on crashes rb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154576415:27
seb128willcooke, thanks15:27
didrocks(and using that to catchup on series you were lagging on :p)15:27
seb128no backtrace there though :-/15:27
willcookeurgh, one sec...15:28
seb128willcooke, I can confirm, don't bother with getting the bt I can do it15:33
willcookeseb128, oh, cool, thank yoiu15:33
flocculantseb128 willcooke - thanks for the help and time here :)15:44
willcookeflocculant, thanks for the report :)15:45
flocculantwillcooke: yw :)15:45
flocculantwillcooke: probably would have left it longer to see if it hadn't been an LTS looming tbh - glad I didn't now :)15:46
willcooke:) me too15:46
rickspencer3tjaalton, fwiw, hasn't frozen yet15:50
rickspencer3__tjaalton, so, it froze exactly one minute later15:56
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robert_ancellwillcooke, around?16:23
willcookerobert_ancell, hey16:24
robert_ancellcan you help get https://bugs.launchpad.net/rnr-server/+bug/1540635 solved?16:24
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1540635 in Ratings and Reviews server " The 2 hour limit for review editing should be removed (for .deb apps)" [Undecided,Won't fix]16:24
seb128hey robert_ancell!16:25
robert_ancellseb128, hi16:25
seb128Laney, if you update eog for ubuntu as well can you include https://git.gnome.org/browse/eog/commit/?id=fbc11280 ?16:26
seb128it's lp #124780016:26
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1247800 in eog (Ubuntu) "Picture displayed with noise in EOG" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124780016:26
Laneywhy isn't it on the stable branch16:27
seb128(sorry, just saw the #debian-gnome backlog)16:27
seb128that's a good question16:27
seb128though there is a recent comment about performances16:28
seb128so maybe not such a good idea to backport16:28
Laneylooks like this makes performance bad16:28
seb128that comment was not there this morning when I read the bug (was in my backlog from the w.e)16:29
seb128let's wait for them to sort it out then16:29
seb128sorry for the noise ;-)16:29
dokoLaney, seb128, willcooke: please could you write a MIR (and subscribe to) nuget, new b-d of nunit?16:46
seb128doko, can you take bug #1538173 in exchange? ;-)16:48
ubot5`bug 1538173 in fonttools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonttools" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153817316:48
dokoseb128, why? it's b-d of a desktop package16:50
seb128doko, we don't own the fonts rendering stack afaik16:51
dokoseb128, b-d of graphite2, owned by the desktop team. and I still remember various fontconfig uploads by the desktop team during freeze times ...16:52
Laneyif you want to play this game16:52
dokoso, you are wrong16:52
Laneynuget <- nunit <- nant <- antlr16:52
Laneyso bye16:52
seb128right, I was going to say16:52
Laneythat's going to be a fun MIR16:54
dokoLaney, using this schema you can push everything to foundations16:54
seb128doko, the main reason I've been uploading fontconfig is because it was not being updated otherwise, e.g trying to help16:54
seb128but it was maintained by slangasek and stgraber before16:55
seb128anyway, no point debating those details16:55
seb128can we just split those and share the load?16:55
seb128otherwise I guess it's something for willcooke & slangasek to discuss once Steve is back16:56
Laneynuget is an upstream package manager thing16:56
Laneydon't know what the way out of that is16:56
Laneyapart from the xnox proposal16:56
dokowhich will come a bit late16:56
willcookewhich is now+4 weeks away, so I think let's be pragmatic and share the love16:56
seb128willcooke, right, my though as well16:56
Laneyit's like miring npm or pip16:56
dokoyep, and we tend to have these in main too16:57
dokowillcooke, was this volunteering to do +1 maintenance for the next four weeks? ;)16:57
xnoxseb128, you can always pull in ogasawara as a slangasek substitute for the time being.16:58
xnoxMIRs are interesting.16:59
xnoxi believe a own a few "pre-promoted" or missmatched MIRs.16:59
* xnox looks at nuget16:59
* xnox sees description of apt17:00
* xnox is confused17:00
Laneythis is how software works these days17:00
xnoxyeap. it looks like a c# / .net maven equivalent.17:01
* xnox *sigh*17:01
seb128(on +1 we are doing our share, some of us keep an eye on the proposed migration and transitions and help on regular basis)17:01
Laneyanyway it's a build system tool, so xnox's proposal is approved™ and we can just promote it, right? :)17:02
dokoLaney, did you check that it won't end up as a runtime dependency?17:03
xnoxLaney, well xnox proposal is blocked on solving doko's nacks, e.g. having check-mir in excuses.17:03
k1l_seb128: hi. i filed bug #1545556 with windowbutton placement on gedit on 16.0417:04
ubot5`bug 1545556 in gedit (Ubuntu) "ubuntu 16.04: window buttons of gedit are placed on the right side" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154555617:04
willcookerickspencer3, are your freeze's just when using Chrome, or all the time?  And do you have to power off and back on to recover?  Not seeing anything suspect in that log17:04
rickspencer3willcooke, all the time17:04
rickspencer3really random17:04
dokoxnox, such discussions should happen in -devel, not in some secluded channel17:04
rickspencer3willcooke, yes, I have to do a hard reboot17:04
rickspencer3willcooke, sometimes it happens after 5 minutes of use, sometimes closer to an hour17:05
xnoxdoko, i'm yet to form a response to the generated feedback on -devel. first day back, so catching up.17:05
Laneyit's a waste of time to have arguments about promoting this build tool17:05
Laneyif we are going to allow it eventually anyway17:05
xnoxLaney, fyi, things in my proposal are the b-d's are not promoted, but stay in universe.17:06
Laneylike under the current MIR policy the s-ecurity team will definitely have issues with it17:06
k1l_seb128: i have my system running in german, so i am not sure about the correct namings, but its this setting: "show the menus for a window" http://sourcedigit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Appearance-Appearance.jpg17:06
xnoxit's just they are allowed, and e.g. would be demoted back to universe, if it doesn't generate runtime deps.17:06
Laneyxnox: not implemented though17:06
willcookerickspencer3, humm, could you send me a kern.log?17:08
rickspencer3willcooke, yeah, hold on17:08
* rickspencer3 switches computers17:08
tjaaltonrickspencer3: do you have to reboot when it happens? dmesg might have something if not. but it's a kernel bug if the system dies17:09
rickspencer3tjaalton, willcooke I am getting the kernel.log now17:10
rickspencer3all I can say is that the system totally freezes and I have to do a hard reboot17:10
rickspencer3I can't get to VT1 or anything17:10
rickspencer3I suppose I could install ssh and try to ssh into it the next time it happens17:10
willcookerickspencer3, you could just try pinging it first, but I expect it's dead dead.17:11
rickspencer3here is my kernel.log17:12
seb128k1l_, does unity-settings-daemon hit an error when you enable that option?17:12
seb128k1l_, it looks like it does, your menu is not where it should it's not in the titlebar17:13
rickspencer3I think the last lock up was at 10:5117:13
rickspencer3\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00Feb 15 10:53:02 rick-Satellite-L15W-B kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset17:14
ogra_ascii-art !17:14
rickspencer3oh, so sorry17:14
rickspencer3did not mean to paste that17:14
rickspencer3according to jockey, my device is "Using Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary)17:16
k1l_seb128: i dont get an error. and another user made a fresh install, switched that setting and then the windowbuttons went to the right side too.17:16
tjaaltonrickspencer3: it manages to write a bit of garbage before dying. needs kernel bisect to find out the culprit...17:19
seb128k1l_, weird, well there is something wrong with unity-settings-daemon for you and that another user, can you add the ~/.cache/upstart/unity-settings-daemon.log to the bug?17:21
willcookerickspencer3, would you mind opening a bug and we can see if the kernel team are able to advise further?17:21
rickspencer3willcooke, np17:22
rickspencer3tjaalton, just tell me how I can help, otherwise, I'll sit tight and expect that it will get fixed in the fullness of time17:22
k1l_seb128: it includes only entries for cups stuff for 2 apps: (unity-settings-daemon:2402): color-plugin-WARNING **: failed to connect to device: Failed to connect to missing device /org/freedesktop/ColorManager/devices/cups_Roger_Router_Fax      and the cups_hp_laserjet17:26
seb128k1l_, what's the status of unity-settings-daemon? "ps axu | grep unity-settings-daemon"?17:27
k1l_seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15078361/17:28
seb128k1l_, k, weird17:28
seb128I don't know what's going on, it's like you were loosing the xsettings integration17:29
tjaaltonrickspencer3: you could try a newer mainline build to see if it's fixed in 4.5rc or drm-intel-next branch. google for mainline ppa17:31
tjaaltonand file a bug to track it. is there a reliable way to repro or is just idling enough?17:33
k1l_seb128: yeah. to me it looks like that menu switch triggers something which breaks the buttons placement. but i dont know anything about gtk or such :/17:33
seb128k1l_, well, unity-settings-daemon is the piece which watch the config and do the actual changes, and it looks like it stop doing its job for you when you trigger that option17:36
seb128k1l_, can you do "stop unity-settings-daemon" then start it manually with "/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon" and see if there is an error displayed?17:37
k1l_stop works. i have old themes and icons17:38
ogra_welcome to 199517:38
k1l_seb128: no error17:39
seb128but the decorations are on the wrong side?17:39
k1l_on gedit, yes17:39
seb128and do you still get the menu under the decoration like on your screenshot?17:40
seb128for e.g unity-control-center17:40
rickspencer3tjaalton, I have not found a way to repro it17:42
rickspencer3just using it for long enough :/17:42
k1l_seb128: that image was just an image from google to show the english namings.17:44
k1l_sorry if that was missleading :/17:45
seb128k1l_, yes, it was17:46
seb128no worry17:46
seb128k1l_, can you make a screenshot with the settings panel and gedit open?17:48
k1l_seb128:  http://i.imgur.com/OLsYois.jpg17:51
seb128k1l_, there is no gedit/decoration on the right there?17:51
k1l_seb128: did a "start unity-settings-daemon" and now changing themes doenst change the black titelbars.17:52
k1l_seb128: sorry, didnt open gedit ...17:52
seb128yeah, that's a known bug, that's fixed with a session restart17:52
k1l_wait, now they are on the left again on gedit17:53
k1l_seb128: http://i.imgur.com/cSTg6xN.jpg17:54
seb128k1l_, no bug there ;-)17:55
ogra_you were just holding it wrong ;)17:55
seb128ngaio, willcooke, k, I found the issue with vlc/o-s, Mirv removed the patch to disable those thinking o-s are deprecated, but they are still there for gtk2 and it creates the issue, the patch needs to be restored in qtbase-opensource-src17:56
k1l_ok. switching that menu doesnt make them go right again. i wonder what happens after a relogin17:57
seb128ngaio, willcooke, Mirv, bug #1531516 updated17:58
ubot5`bug 1531516 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "qt5/gtk integration needs to disable overlay-scrollbars since they create issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153151617:58
willcookethank you seb12817:58
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k1l_seb128: ok. after a reboot and setting other icons the windowbuttons keep on the left side. even when i switch that menu again.18:06
Laneysee you!18:18
willcookecya Laney18:19
seb128have a good evening18:23
willcookeg'night all19:06
Mirvupdated the bug too, feel free to upload qtbase ubuntu3 if you're in such a timezone you have time to look at it20:43
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