[07:43] hello! I'm trying to understand how to make a patch for a kernel in order to make it compatible with Ubuntu Touch, it's a Chromebook kernel for the ASUS Chromebook Flip [09:15] what are minimal hardware rewuirements for porting ? [09:24] win15 === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [09:37] hm [09:38] as I guess port for Nexus 4 is fully functional ? [09:38] and up to date ? [09:38] what about Nexus 5 ? === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:04] ogra_, hey [10:05] ogra_, I'm seeing an issue in touch where some devices are seen in ubuntu rootfs but not in the android container [10:06] ogra_, how it the container configured in regard to device node creation? [10:42] abeato, the udev equivalent of android creates /dev on container startup ... both /dev trees need to be distinct else you cause chaos [10:44] ogra_, in this case some times the devices are seen in the container, and some times they are not... they are always see in ubuntu rootfs... that's what is puzzling me [10:44] yep, I see they can't be excatly the same [10:44] sounds like there is a race then [10:44] yep :) [10:45] the container should not move on until all devices are created [10:45] iirc rsalveti once wrote a patch for that [10:45] perhaps that needs updating [10:45] these devices are created by a process launched in android [10:45] so they do not exist before the conatiner starts [10:47] right [10:47] that is why we need that waiting loop in the rild upstart job [10:50] ogra_, the problem is *inside* the container... there is a process that android starts that loads fw, and the device driver creates the device... which is seen in ubuntu but not always in the container [10:51] what device is that ? you could make init.rc create a socket and check that from the ubuntu side [10:51] (or just a flag file, doesnt need to be a socket) [10:52] /dev/stpwmt, related to wifi in frieza [11:05] abeato, the udev equivalent in android is ueventd btw [11:06] the container should not emit the android event until that has created all devices [11:07] but if you say wifi, did you make sure that nothing touched the device on the ubuntu side ? if both os-es try to load the firmware there will be bad things happening [11:07] *touches [11:08] ogra_, no, I don't think that happens, fw loading is triggered from a process in the android side [11:09] taking a look at ueventd now... [11:09] good ... === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:29] <_Sponge> Hello & good morning #ubuntu-touch [11:31] yo [11:31] <_Sponge> popey, I slept funny #sore-shoulder [11:32] me too! [11:37] * _Sponge is looking for a 'trust box' off febay for the Office Kitchen - no luck so far :( [11:50] jibel, davmor2, i had unity8 die on me at least once a day (three times yesterday actually) since friday on rc-proposed on the MX4 [11:50] did you see anything similar ? [11:55] ogra_: no but then my dogfood device in on stable not rc-proposed [11:55] ah [12:04] ogra_, I didn't see that, but didn't use my phone much this week end [12:04] only happens after a few hours, but then completely out of the blue [12:06] ogra_, it's the build with the new mir to fix bug 1532607 [12:06] bug 1532607 in Mir "Phone not usable while a call comes in - followed by "restart"" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532607 [12:07] well, whatever is latest in rc-proposed [12:07] i usually update immediately if i get the notification [12:07] ogra_, yeah, I'm just confirming that Friday's build contains the new mir [12:09] ogra_, can you file a bug and attach unity8 and unity-system-compositor log files? [12:12] ogra_, ~/.cache/phablet/unity8.log and /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log when it happened [12:15] i'll try to find the time during the day, yeah === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGbRnfqSss [12:34] yeah, last year .... [12:34] oh right [12:34] I'm still not familiar with 2016 :p [12:35] :) [12:35] what about Facebook client, it is some native or just web version ? [12:35] just web (yet) [12:36] same as it was on FirefoxOS [12:36] any good jabber client with OTR support ? [12:37] * ogra_ doesnt use jabber, so i dont know [12:37] k [12:37] don't think so [12:38] <_Sponge> popey, We can do gif's on ubuntu-touch , is that right ? [12:39] dunno what you mean by "do gifs" [12:44] <_Sponge> Well, we have a radar map .. Note this isn't the *actual* Dutch website that I'm looking for. [12:44] <_Sponge> http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/netherlands.html [12:45] <_Sponge> we have a github page by an Ubuntu Loco team member ... [12:45] <_Sponge> https://github.com/OerHeks [12:46] _Sponge, it will definitely work inside a webview ... not sure if animated gifs work in QML though [12:46] (never tried) [12:46] <_Sponge> ok , I shall make a note on it. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:49] mhall119: ping [13:50] <_Sponge> Afternoon mariogrip [13:50] _Sponge: Hi [13:51] * _Sponge is looking for community board rooms on AirBnB. [13:52] <_Sponge> mariogrip: Anymore thoughts on jingo for wiki.ubports.com [13:52] <_Sponge> ^ ? [13:52] mariogrip: public holiday in the US today, m hall119 might not be about [13:53] popey: Oh, ok [13:53] _Sponge: Jup http://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Home [13:54] <_Sponge> mariogrip: That's terriffico, well done ! [13:54] mariogrip: pong [13:55] * mhall119 still hasn't figured out this whole "holiday" thing [13:56] <_Sponge> nice you could give some undivided attention to mariogrip on this holiday day :) [13:56] mhall119: Oh, hey! Have you tried update? (saw there was 2 new versions) [13:56] mariogrip: not yet, sat down this morning and realized my FP2 battery was drained again, so it's charging up now [13:57] also, 2 new versions? I was already on rev 6, and I only see up to rev 7 on http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/FP2/ [13:57] mhall119: I see v8 [13:58] oh, ha, there is it, just had to refresh :) [13:58] mhall119: :) [13:58] * popey hands mhall119 a morning coffee [13:58] * mhall119 is already nearly done with his first cup [13:58] btw, if you need network: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AdbNetworking [13:59] I've been sick all weekend, actually drank tea *hot* [14:00] mhall119: Thats not good, hope you are better now! [14:00] getting there, it was just a cold [14:00] it's the only time I ever drink hot tea though, is when I'm sick [14:01] <_Sponge> Good option: Cod Liver Oil for aches & pains, Vitamin.c for antibodies etc |Oh and the winter flu jab. [14:02] I always hot milk and honey when i'm sick [14:02] drink* [14:02] <_Sponge> honey is more preventative than anything else [14:03] * mhall119 has so much honey [14:05] hey [14:07] Does anyone have an idea, which ubntu I can install on a del latitude ST Tab 10.1? 12.04 Precise doesn´t work for me, cause keyboard is freezing on the beginning. [14:09] wubi is not working. If I go in livemode in ubuntu, the liveos restart after my choice to install 12.04 [14:11] hmm :/ [14:11] ganzeinfach: Is it the desktop version you are trying to install? [14:12] 12.04 and wubi? that doesnt sound right. [14:12] yeah, I think so. Cant get the touchversion of 12.04 I think. I´ve got ubuntu-12.04.5-dvd-i386 [14:12] ganzeinfach: why 12.04? [14:13] 12.04 in general doesnt sound right, given it will go EOL in about 12 months [14:13] because it have LTS [14:13] ganzeinfach: so does 14.04 [14:13] like 14.04 :) [14:13] and it works well on a desktop [14:13] and there is an tutorial for 12.04alpha2 [14:13] 14.04 sux :) [14:14] in any case, if you are using the desktop version this is probably the wrong channel ... this is all about the phone/tablet OS based on unity8 [14:14] you missunderstood [14:14] for touchscreen probs i'd go to #ubuntu-x ... for general installation support to #ubuntu [14:14] i want a touch version [14:14] but there is no download anymore. only for 16.04 touch [14:15] ganzeinfach: the 12.04 desktops are not really touch desktops. [14:15] yeah, but do you can find a link to 12.04 touch? [14:15] I don´t [14:15] ganzeinfach: because ubuntu is making a new unity desktop which fits for touch on smartphones/tablets and desktop on the same time [14:16] ganzeinfach: there is no ubuntu-touch unity on 12.04 [14:16] i dont like unity. i like xfce or xubuntu [14:16] well, there are a few touch features in the 12.04 unity [14:16] ganzeinfach: if you mean "touch hardware support". that is a not what ubuntu-touch is about [14:16] (the desktop version) [14:16] right, as i said, for touch hardware issues go to #ubuntu-x [14:17] yeah but if i cant get the touchversion I have to change the desktopversion to touch with extra drivers, but i cant still get a 12.04 touch iso [14:17] ok ogra [14:17] ganzeinfach: there is no special touch version for the "old" desktops [14:17] but there was an 12.04alpha2, where is it now? [14:18] alphas are wiped once the system gets released [14:18] it have tourchthings on it [14:18] the touch hardware support is like nvidia video support. we dont make special nvidia desktop isos too. its just build in :) [14:18] they are test images before release [14:18] its intel [14:18] doesnt matter + [14:19] we dont use (or know much about) the "normal" ubuntu in this channel [14:19] ganzeinfach: my point is: you want a regular desktop iso. touch hardware support is build into the regular isos already. [14:19] it is all about the new ubuntu for phones/tablets ... which is largely different from the isos you know [14:19] go to #ubuntu-x or #ubuntu [14:19] I have a touchtab and I will a touch buntu old [14:19] there is no such thing [14:19] okay :( [14:20] there is the desktop image that has some touch features ... which seems to be what you want [14:20] ganzeinfach: there is no seperation into touch and not touch ubuntus for desktop [14:20] and for which you need to consult another channel [14:20] Note: You need Ubuntu 12.04, because the Psb_gfx drivers are already integrated in this version. [14:21] ganzeinfach: doesnt say its removed after 12.04 :) [14:21] http://www.mogilowski.net/lang/en-us/2012/02/15/install-ubuntu-on-dell-latitude-st-tablet/ [14:21] I dont won´t 14.04 on my tab, because 12.04 is the most stable OS I know [14:21] ganzeinfach: look at the date. he links the alpha since 12.04 is in alpha state when he wrote that blog [14:22] yeah [14:22] ganzeinfach: then just us a regular 12.04 iso. [14:22] but the regular will not install on my SSD Tab [14:23] It tell me the Installer and after it crashes. The error was something with ubiquitti [14:23] and keyboard is freezing [14:24] cant choose between language and cant switch between ubuntu live and ubuntu install [14:24] right, try #ubuntu [14:24] ok [14:24] (totally out of scope of this channel) [14:24] #ubuntu [14:25] /join #ubuntu [14:25] ;) === bpierre_ is now known as bpierre [14:26] <_Sponge> mhall119: Is it #PresidentDay today ? [14:27] <_Sponge> **PresidentsDay [14:35] yes [14:36] <_Sponge> mhall119: just noticed 'cos it's trending on twitter. [14:44] <_Sponge> mariogrip: Still not happening. http://wiki2.ubports.com/auth/done [14:46] _Sponge: with github? [14:47] <_Sponge> Maybe it's my ghostery thingy ... possibly uBlock dunno. [14:49] _Sponge: humm, I get error to... letme debug this [14:49] <_Sponge> Ok, good luck : http://postimg.org/image/iqzuj7x9t/ [14:51] greyback: hey, thanks for working on the gyroscope stuff! When that lands I can finish off my ubuntu cardboard VR demo \o/ [14:51] Elleo: heh, we had similar projects in mind :) [14:54] greyback: cool [15:00] Hey guys [15:00] My Nexus 5 is stuck on the ubuntu boot screen on both devel and devel-proposed [15:00] any ideas of what might be wrong? greyback Elleo _Sponge? [15:00] I'm using multirom with CM13 [15:00] ran fine on my N7. Thinking it might be leftover files but there shouldn't be any? [15:01] <_Sponge> Does anyone have the github page for the MultiRom repo ? [15:01] _Sponge: https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom [15:01] https://tasssadar.github.io/ [15:01] <_Sponge> thought so, cheers. [15:02] they've updated it recently for cm13 and 6.0 devices so finally my nexus devices work with it on marshmallow [15:02] Arctic: I'm not really familiar with the nexus 5 port or with multirom I'm afraid, so can't really help [15:02] Arctic: if you can "adb shell" in, perhaps some log files might explain. [15:02] greyback: how would one do that? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:02] just when it's on the bootloader type that in terminal (have adb installed) [15:02] Arctic, devel isnt expected to work at all ... you want rc-proposed [15:03] <_Sponge> Arctic: Be good if you could raise an issue : https://github.com/Tasssadar/MultiROMMgr/issues [15:03] _Sponge: not sure if it's an issue with multirom [15:03] since it boots to the ubuntu screen [15:03] Arctic: after boot, while you say it has hung. It may be the UI has not come up, but everything else is ok [15:03] greyback: yeah it seems to dim the screen [15:03] it's odd [15:04] not for devel, no [15:05] it can break at any time, and gets not much QA attention [15:05] ogra_: huh? [15:05] rc-proposed is the development channel [15:05] ok ill try that [15:06] orgI don't have an rc-proposed [15:06] devel is just the 16.04 image which hanst much developer focus currently ... its only a thing where code gets dumped in in parallel if it hits rc-proposed [15:06] I have ubuntu-rtm/14.09 [15:06] ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed [15:06] devel-proposed/ubuntu [15:06] devel-proposed [15:06] utopic [15:06] utopic-proposed [15:06] vivid [15:06] 14.09 is obsolete [15:06] vivid-proposed [15:06] ogra_: I know that..... [15:06] which one? [15:06] heh, no idea ... looks like the server doesnt actually have rc-proposed ... [15:07] no idea if tassadar renamed it [15:07] ogra_: vivid and utopic are both outdated too [15:07] i know dobey uses an N5 ... perhaps he can point you to the right channel name [15:07] ;( [15:07] I got charged 2p for IOPS from AWS [15:07] dammit [15:07] must have been before I switched to HDDs? [15:08] i see the N5 on https://devices.ubports.com/ .... but that seems to only be the stable channel [15:11] ogra_: who has a N5? [15:11] will have to reach out to them and ask about it I guess [15:11] i know dobey and nhaines do in this channel [15:11] mariogrip: ok, trying u-d-f to get rev8 [15:11] ayy I was talking to nhaines last week ogra_ [15:11] Oh yeah that reminds me I meant to submit pictures to the desktop wallpaper thing [15:14] Leaving my calander open in a pinned tab is super useful. Just hop over and add deadlines and such [15:14] interviews, deadlines, plans :) [15:14] notifications on devices and via email. I'm liking digital calanders [15:16] mariogrip: well, it appeared to be flashing rev 8, but it still says it's on rev 6 [15:18] ogra_: N5 is for rc and devel too http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/hammerhead/ [15:18] mhall119: Did you flash it from recovery? [15:18] yup [15:19] no errors or anything from u-d-f, it rebooted to the Ubuntu upgrade splash screen, then rebooted back into Unity 8 [15:21] can you check (from recovery) /cache/system-image-upgrader.log [15:23] ~ # cat /cache/system-image-upgrader.log [15:23] Starting image Upgrade pre [15:23] Processing the command file [15:23] that's all there was in that file === LarreaMikel1 is now known as LarreaMikel [15:27] mariogrip, what about n7 lte? :P (deb) [15:28] tathhu: one device at a time, I've already claimed him for the Fairphone 2 ;) [15:29] damn :D [15:29] the wishlist is getting longer... FP2, OPO, OP2, OPX, DEB... [15:29] mhall119: Humm, maybe when you installed it, it installed the old recovery [15:29] from the system-server [15:29] mariogrip: it does show Ubports Recovery again, instead of Cyanogen Recovery [15:30] mhall119: try install the recovery again https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/fp2/recovery.img [15:31] popey: I get so many request on email for n6 and n5x [15:31] so, the list is pretty long [15:31] send them a paypal link in reply ㋛ [15:31] Well, it's hard for me to see anything on N7 when it's "docked" on kbd so I'm waiting for M10 :D [15:31] popey: haha yeah :P [15:31] popey, dont forget galaxy S7 [15:32] Wish there were more people who could help you mariogrip === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [15:34] popey: Yeah, I wish that too [15:35] ogra_: does samsung devices use fastboot? [15:35] their own bastardized variant iirc [15:36] accessible through some tool named after nordic gods ...odin, heimdal ? [15:36] mariogrip: reflashed the recovery, still says Ubports Recovery, trying u-d-f again now [15:37] ogra_: lol, heimdal is not far from where i live... [15:38] mhall119: Yeah, I fixed the image [15:39] (also heimdal is a place in norway) [15:39] :) [15:42] mariogrip: worked! I'm no rev 8 [15:43] I'm *on* rev 8 [15:43] mhall119: :) [15:43] so, what's new from rev 6? [15:54] mariogrip: rev8 doesn't have the fixed adbd, does it [15:55] What channel should I choose if I want the latest version of Ubuntu Touch (OTA-9) on my Nexus 4? [15:55] mhall119: it has some kernel improvements [15:55] mhall119: if you need adb http://people.ubuntu.com/~mariogrip/Ubuntu-touch/fp2/ [15:56] mariogrip: I still have those from last time, just ran it [15:56] sdk, stable [15:57] ogra_: thanks :) [15:57] kgunn: ogra_: either of you know of a command-line way to wake the screen if it turns off and the power button isn't working? [15:57] there is a powerd-cli call you can use iirc [15:57] but i dont remember the syntax [15:58] mhall119: That would not work, the power button seem to work, but it's something that seems to crash [15:58] ah, nvm then ogra_ :) [15:59] mhall119: the weird thing is that you cannot restart mir after it has been started [15:59] mariogrip: yeah, "powerd-cli listen" shows that powerd gets the button press event, and knows the state (on/off) [15:59] also, you can restart it, but the screen is black after restart [15:59] mhall119, i think davmor2 uses the commaand regulary [16:01] meh [16:01] mhall119: Is /firmware/image mounted? [16:01] ogra_, mhall119: I just use it to keep the screen on while I get a gps reading :) [16:01] mhall119: i do powerd-cli display on bright [16:01] mariogrip: rebooting now, will let you know [16:02] kgunn: running that gives: ** (process:2338): WARNING **: requestDisplayState failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.canonical.Unity.Screen was not provided by any .service files [16:02] failed display request [16:03] mariogrip: doesn't look like it [16:03] mariogrip: also, now the screen turns off even while I'm touching it to keep it awake :( [16:05] mhall119: The screen bug it weird, ubp-5.1 works perfectly on the opo (I have even made a phone call, popey :) [16:06] before it would stay on as long as I was touching it, but not anymore [16:06] awwww [16:06] you're teasing me [16:07] popey: I would release it, but I has a bad issue that it get really hot so i need to await it [16:08] good call [16:08] mariogrip: ah, got it to boot this time by touching it every 4-5 seconds,rather than constantly, so maybe the constant input was causing a crash [16:09] mhall119: humm, I need to get in contact with the mir team again, there is some bad issues going on here [16:09] mariogrip: /firmware is a symlink to /android/firmware, which isn't mounted and isn't in fstab, can I mount it manually? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [16:12] mhall119: I guess you can mount /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem [16:12] to /android/firmware? [16:12] mhall119: Im not sure if that would work, haven't tested that on ut [16:12] yeah [16:13] mount: special device /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem does not exist [16:13] oh, then that needs to be mounted with fstab [16:24] yeah, that's not in fstab either [16:26] i really want to test this operating system. having a hard time justifying getting a phone that doesnt go beyond 2G speeds(TmobUS) would there be anything i would be missing if i got a 2013 nexus 7? [16:27] maszlo, the nexus 4 should work rather well on US bands [16:27] (and the N7 2013 (flo) is a supported device) [16:27] (not that lte (deb) one.. :P) [16:28] #saltytathhu [16:28] well, the deb is community supported .,.. not all bits work (bluetooth doesnt i think) [16:28] yeah stuff like hardware not working is what i was looking for issues with N7 [16:30] the N4 is just so old, always had poor camera. [16:30] _Sponge: I don't know why github wont work, but i added google that seems to be working [16:30] guess an emulator might be my best efforts until something else is released. [16:31] used N4's are cheap though [16:31] mhall119: that need to be fixed on android side [16:31] <_Sponge> mariogrip: Ok, that'll do it. Thanks for talking to me 'bout it. [16:32] true, N4 are cheap. but just like getting a current day one on 2G being painful so might a not so cutting edge device from 4 years ago (N4) [16:34] the n4 is still a good device. it was a highclass device back than. and the n5 is not that far away performancewise. [16:34] Is there anyone running who running any ubuntu in a dell latitude ST Tablet 10.1" [16:35] yeah, i heard it is faster then the MX4 [16:35] (i can live with a slightly slower device though ... getting *that* display and the camera is worth a little suffering :P ) [16:36] (though i have seen many people go back to their aquaris 4.5 recently ... just because it is so much less painful to use [16:37] ogra_: because of compatibility or controls? [16:38] maszlo, the bezen is to slim so the side gestures get lost at times ... the graphics driver is junk (like all SGX drivers) so you have some lag [16:38] *bezel [16:39] there is also a slight sharp edge on the frame that makes using the side gestures unpleasant [16:39] ... and dont get me started about the "home button" :P [16:39] ganzeinfach, if i read this > http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_st_tablet + GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”poulsbo.blacklist=yes console=tty1 sdhci.debug_quirks=4″ .. poulsbo, i get the shivers. [16:40] poulsbo = gma500, obsolete since 11.04 i think [16:40] * k1l_ wonders what ubuntu-touch on a samsung galaxy edge would be like [16:40] OerHeks, you mean beyond tha fact that this is off-topic here ? [16:40] k1l_, yeah [16:40] ogra_, not sure, it is a tablet/touch, but 32 bit [16:40] k1l_, the meizu 5 pro seems to have a slightly rounded edge by what i read [16:41] OerHeks, this really isnt the channel for desktop install support though [16:41] OerHeks, in general touch related suff for this goes to #ubuntu-x nowadays [16:42] ogra_, thanks, didn know that one. ganzeinfach join #ubuntu-x [16:42] is the Aquaris M10 something that is just being field tested to see if they should run a production of them, or setup distribution to different markets? info on them is minimal [16:42] maszlo, no, it will go into production [16:42] and should be available world wide [16:42] OerHeks I was on the same websites, but its not possible to install this way, maybe its the Bios-Update from Dell. So I cant use the keyboard from the beginning and I was using 12.04 after using 12.04.5 and it was masspixelterror in the installprocess.. [16:42] but it has no modem [16:43] how often i should join any channel? I have open now ubuntu-touch, ubuntu, ubuntu+1 [16:43] yeah, one way about not feeling bad my phone is stuck at 2G speeds is not have any modem lol [16:43] and now ubuntu-x? [16:44] i wonder if studio already bought a m10 :X [16:44] ganzeinfach, well, you dont need to be here unless you have questions about unity8 based systems, which this channel is for [16:44] ganzeinfach: you probably don't want to know how many channels I have open... ;) [16:44] The m10 is amazing, me want convergence :) [16:44] mariogrip, +1 [16:44] :) [16:45] k1l_, lol [16:45] k1l_, he hasnt shown up yet ... so i guess he ran out of money [16:45] ogra I am interested to get it working and if there is only the unity way, than I will use the unity.. [16:45] ganzeinfach: i dont think you will meet anyone running that 2011 tablet with ubuntu today. your best bet is to see for people who had this running and ask there. [16:45] true [16:46] popey: mariogrip: I can't manually install the terminal app on the FP2, any ideas why? I get: [16:46] Cannot install /home/phablet/Downloads/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.170_multi.click: Signature verification error: debsig: Failed verification for /home/phablet/Downloads/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.170_multi.click [16:46] even using --allow-unauthenticated [16:46] mhall119: probably apparmor [16:46] but where to find them. Noone use Dell Latitude ST and if search on Youtube, there is no ubuntu on that tab as a tutorial [16:46] ogra_: i just saw him on android-hilfe forums ranting against bq not providing new kernels for android. [16:46] I can install uReadIt's click package [16:47] mhall119: oh, then I don't know, --allow-unauthenticated should work [16:47] mhall119: it's --allow-untrusted [16:47] not --allow-unauthenticated [16:47] oh [16:48] Well in normal Bios process the keyboard is working, but if I am loading the USB-Device with Ubuntu, it will let me not give a choice with my kb. Thats strange.. [16:48] mhall119: you're using pkcon, right? not click [16:48] popey: right [16:48] ok, good [16:48] and yes, I used --allow-untrusted [16:48] allow-untrusted then [16:48] popey: I think the problem may be that the package is signed, but it can't verify the signature [16:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1360582 [16:49] Launchpad bug 1360582 in PackageKit "Can't manually install clicks "Signature verification error" since #205" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:49] heh, that bug will probably never get fixed [16:50] (we might switch to snaps before ... ) [16:50] well, that bug is about desktop [16:50] mhall119 isn't on desktop (I assume) [16:50] (in which case --allow-unauthenticated is the right term then) [16:50] ogra_: it was fixed by adding --allow-untrusted wasn't it? [16:50] ah, yeah [16:50] add both :) [16:50] popey: no, on Fairphone 2 [16:50] mhall119, "worked around" [16:52] and that bug is for unsigned packages [16:52] indeed [16:52] but I downloaded the terminal click from the store, so it is signed, it just fails to verify the signature [16:53] i would simply expect click and snap to be clever enough to realize they install something from a local path ... so they could just set that themselves and simply print a warning [16:53] mhall119: want a click that's not been near the store, to test? [16:53] popey: yes please [16:54] popey: do you have the "cool" version of the music app, tried to compile it myself but something broke... [16:54] ok, one moment [16:54] mariogrip, whats "cool" about it ? [16:54] uploading all my daily clicks [16:54] * ahayzen wonders what 'cool' version is [16:54] hahah [16:54] ahayzen: any one you have worked on ㋛ [16:54] does it play popey fart sounds all the time when pressing a button or some such ? [16:54] haha [16:55] popey, obviously you are working on bug 1425590 [16:55] bug 1425590 in Ubuntu Music App "Disco Mode Support" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1425590 [16:55] 😃 [16:55] lol [16:55] I spotted this: https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/music-streaming [16:55] mariogrip, ah :-) [16:56] :) [17:00] mhall119: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/clicks/20160213-150001/ [17:00] oSoMoN: so webbrowser-app crashed on me on the desktop (not unusual) and apport is generating a crash report that is now over 100MB in size, is that normal? [17:01] oSoMoN: and it just aborted with: Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers." [17:01] its a core dump, so yeah, all of the ram used by the program, it will be big [17:02] mhall119, haven’t seen that before. I suggest you buy more RAM :) [17:02] for bigger core dumps ? [17:02] hah [17:02] mhall119: Download more ram :) [17:02] google it [17:02] apt-get install more-ram fails [17:02]