| valorie | clivejo: I just got a text from sgclark | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | a car accident took out the power from her whole neighborhood | 00:10 |
| clivejo | eakk | 00:10 |
| valorie | so she asks that if you can upload that stuff you were discussing | 00:10 |
| valorie | please do it | 00:10 |
| valorie | :( | 00:10 |
| valorie | yeah | 00:10 |
| apol | valorie: installing kubuntu-desktop broke while configuring packages :/ http://imgur.com/BzePSh5 | 01:03 |
| cpatrick08 | Does anybody know when the ISOs and user edition repo will be available? | 01:08 |
| claydoh | cpatrick08: ?? | 01:20 |
| cpatrick08 | claydoh, yes i'm here | 01:21 |
| cpatrick08 | here's the info on project neon http://neon.kde.org.uk/ | 01:22 |
| clivejo | cpatrick08: Project Neon and KDE Neon are two different projects | 01:23 |
| claydoh | cpatrick08: #kde-neon | 01:24 |
| clivejo | For questions about KDE Neon you need to ask in #kde-neon | 01:24 |
| mardy | hi all! Is anyone available to help with bug 1451728? | 09:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1451728 in ktp-accounts-kcm (Ubuntu Wily) "[master] kde-config-telepathy-accounts package install error" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451728 | 09:19 |
| cyphermox | is there anyone here who typically looks after ubiquity for the qt version of it? I really wouldn't mind some help there, I'm not at all familiar with Qt stuff | 09:25 |
| cyphermox | I'm unbreaking it now, but it would really benefit from some extra love. | 09:26 |
| soee | sitter: sorry for bothering but do you remember who maintained it ^ ? | 09:27 |
| Quintasan | mardy: What exactly you'd like help with? I can't say I can see an easy solution here. We'd either have to mark those packages as conflicting or merge the providers or patch up apparmor | 09:28 |
| mardy | Quintasan: well, the latter would be the ideal solution, but if we don't have time for it, then at least we should mark the packages as conflicting | 09:29 |
| mardy | Quintasan: I can take care of the apparmor profile for MC, but I'd rather leave the kaccounts packaging work to someone else | 09:30 |
| Quintasan | Right. I'll have to install 15.04 to test it. | 09:34 |
| Quintasan | mardy: If someone doesn't take care of it by tomorrow then I'll do it. I'm at work now unfortunately. | 09:35 |
| mardy | Quintasan: excellent, thanks! | 09:35 |
| sitter | soee_: nobody | 09:43 |
| soee_ | sitter: ok, thank you | 10:10 |
| yofel | cyphermox: typically Jonathan, so currently nobody. I wanted to take a look at it once we're done with our packaging tasks, meaning in a week or so. | 12:17 |
| yofel | sitter: btw. clemens said that he wouldn't mind covering the kubuntu ci server costs as long as we don't use it for anything else without prior notice | 12:22 |
| yofel | can we get access to the thing somehow? | 12:22 |
| yofel | and I can't access paste.kde.org, uhuh - sec_error_ocsp_bad_signature | 12:23 |
| sitter | yofel: need to evacuate some keys first I think xD | 13:11 |
| sitter | will get on it soon(tm) | 13:11 |
| yofel | sure, no hurry | 13:11 |
| yofel | thansk | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | hi folks | 13:42 |
| ScottK | If anyone can test the 14.04.4 images, all they really need is some basic smoke testing. | 16:21 |
| marco-parillo | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds | 17:01 |
| marco-parillo | ScottK: ? ^^ | 17:01 |
| ScottK | marco-parillo: yes | 17:04 |
| ScottK | There will be one respin, so if you find something, there's at least a chance for an update. | 17:05 |
| marco-parillo | !testers: ^^^ | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about testers: ^^^ | 17:11 |
| marco-parillo | !testers | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information | 17:11 |
| Emanuel | who is responsible with the security review of the packages ? | 18:03 |
| Emanuel | such as lz4 ? | 18:04 |
| Emanuel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule 2 days left | 18:07 |
| Emanuel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lz4/+bug/1531923 | 18:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1531923 in lz4 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lz4" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:10 |
| sgclark | Emanuel: that is upstream ubuntu - unrelated to Kubuntu. try #ubuntu-devel | 18:12 |
| Emanuel | ups | 18:13 |
| soee | apps 15.12.2 released :) | 18:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: thank you for kdenlive | 19:56 |
| sgclark | don't thank me yet haha, failing | 19:57 |
| sgclark | uh ssl_connect error, not sure that is my fault | 19:58 |
| === dax is now known as rww | ||
| sgclark | sitter: any idea on ssl_connect error? | 20:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: I say you've finished the debian merge on it | 20:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's why I'm thanking you | 20:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | but I should be thanking you for the entire work, not just kdenlive | 20:00 |
| sgclark | oh hehe np | 20:01 |
| sgclark | oh. all these failure are ssl connect errors.. | 20:01 |
| clivejo | eakkk | 20:01 |
| === rww is now known as dax | ||
| clivejo | qa has gone crazy! | 20:01 |
| clivejo | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html | 20:01 |
| sgclark | that looks like ssl errors as well | 20:02 |
| sgclark | good grief what is going on with ssl?!?! | 20:02 |
| clivejo | maybe LP ? | 20:02 |
| sgclark | the ci builds are failing at source, so that is kde servers | 20:03 |
| sgclark | qa must be lp? | 20:03 |
| clivejo | kci builds on LP? | 20:03 |
| sgclark | blech I don't now. All I knowis I see a common SSL_CONNECT error. | 20:04 |
| clivejo | sgclark: pretty sure it uploads to this PPA - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/ | 20:05 |
| sgclark | clivejo: yeah I am aware of where it uploads. | 20:08 |
| sgclark | clivejo: but unless you know how to fix the SSL_CONNECT errors we are dead in the water. | 20:09 |
| sgclark | point of failure: 20:03:38 /usr/lib/ruby/2.1.0/net/http.rb:920:in `connect': Connection reset by peer - SSL_connect | 20:12 |
| sgclark | all of them, pausing CI, this is a waste. | 20:12 |
| ahoneybun | 30mins to clivejo's membership meeting | 20:30 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo, ovidiu-florin valorie yofel | 20:38 |
| sgclark | good luck clivejo! I would be shocked and angry if you don't get it though lol | 20:38 |
| yofel | this will be a short meeting | 20:39 |
| sgclark | :) | 20:39 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark, it's kinda don't bite the hand that feeds you moment | 20:39 |
| sgclark | I don't get it | 20:39 |
| ahoneybun | you would not hurt someone who feeds you | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | ie packages | 20:40 |
| sgclark | oh right. hense why I would be angry if he did not get it :) | 20:40 |
| * sgclark cheers for clivejo on the sidelines | 20:41 | |
| sgclark | yofel: btw are efforts are halted by these ssl_connect error, dunno even who to bug to fix them. | 20:42 |
| sgclark | s/are/our | 20:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: pong | 20:43 |
| ahoneybun | meeting in 15mins ovidiu-florin | 20:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | I know | 20:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm here | 20:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | do I have to be somewhere else? | 20:47 |
| ahoneybun | not that I'm aware of | 20:47 |
| soee | woho http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Joins-Khronos-For-Vulkan | 20:49 |
| * ovidiu-florin is listening to Ray Charles | 20:49 | |
| * ahoneybun is listening to Hollywood Undead | 20:50 | |
| * mamarley is listening to the dying fan bearing on his work computer :( | 20:50 | |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: Kenny D, [16.02.16 12:48] there are problems with firefox not liking the apache ssl settings | 20:53 |
| sgclark | interesting, but our CI system uses firefox? O.o | 20:54 |
| clivejo | sgclark: I think LP is fixed, can you unpause KCI? | 20:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | firefox is not the issue | 20:54 |
| sgclark | sure | 20:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | the certificat is | 20:54 |
| sgclark | unpaused | 20:54 |
| sgclark | ovidiu-florin: ok. still don't know what to do to fix it lol | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: check out the confersation on KDE Cafe | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: my guess is wait | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | the issue you're havins is with a KDE site? | 20:55 |
| sgclark | welll hard to tell. it may very well be LP | 20:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | is there a way to find out? | 20:56 |
| * ovidiu-florin is a typo master today | 20:56 | |
| sgclark | ovidiu-florin: sure read the log: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kdenlive/180/console | 20:57 |
| sgclark | to me it looks like it is failing getting binaries fro mLP | 20:57 |
| * sgclark is a typo master everyday. | 20:58 | |
| ovidiu-florin | can I see the script that makes that call? | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | meeting time? | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | where should we be? | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | here? | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo ahoneybun yofel? ^ | 21:00 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 21:00 |
| * clivejo waves | 21:00 | |
| ovidiu-florin | ok then | 21:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | ====================== clivejo membership meeting START ======================== | 21:00 |
| ahoneybun | we need at least 3 | 21:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello people | 21:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | let's have a show of hands | 21:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | o/ | 21:01 |
| ahoneybun | o/ | 21:01 |
| claydoh | o/ | 21:01 |
| yofel | o/ | 21:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark valorie ? | 21:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo ? | 21:02 |
| clivejo | o/ | 21:02 |
| sgclark | ? | 21:02 |
| sgclark | I am not on KC | 21:02 |
| clivejo | neither am I :/ | 21:02 |
| yofel | Mamarok: ping if you want to chime in | 21:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: your opinion also matters | 21:03 |
| sgclark | +1 | 21:03 |
| yofel | clivejo: you're still kind of important right now ;P | 21:03 |
| ahoneybun | it's not like anyone is going to do a -1 or 0 | 21:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | -0 | 21:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | :-P | 21:04 |
| * ovidiu-florin want's to do the impossible | 21:04 | |
| ovidiu-florin | so, yofel, you have more experience with these meetings, care to chair? | 21:05 |
| clivejo | President Yofel | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | we have enough people | 21:05 |
| yofel | sure | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | --- Begin questioning --- | 21:05 |
| yofel | clivejo: so, just for the record, can you do a small introduction of yourself and tell us why you want to be a kubuntu member? | 21:06 |
| clivejo | Im not great at talking about myself, but why I want to be a member - the honest answer is I want to be able to help out ie pause KCI and so forth | 21:07 |
| clivejo | rather than having to ask other people to do it | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: let me help you | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | Who are you? | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | where are you form? | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | waht do you do? | 21:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | why Kubuntu? | 21:09 |
| claydoh | what is your favorite flavour of ice cream? | 21:09 |
| * sgclark gives hint to clivejo (link your wiki page) :) | 21:09 | |
| clivejo | oh, I thought that was the reason for the wiki page! | 21:09 |
| clivejo | Im Clive, from Co Fermanagh in N. Ireland | 21:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | it is, but don't assume all present here read it | 21:09 |
| clivejo | I have my fingers in a lot of pies | 21:09 |
| * ovidiu-florin likes apple pie | 21:10 | |
| ahoneybun | clivejo, link your wiki and LP | 21:10 |
| clivejo | some people here know me from genealogy and history, other know me from OpenStreetMap | 21:10 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo | 21:11 |
| clivejo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/~clivejo | 21:11 |
| clivejo | I studied computers to degree level which is very much a love hate relationship | 21:12 |
| clivejo | after that I went into property management | 21:12 |
| clivejo | bit of a Jack of all trades! | 21:13 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo, why did you pick Kubuntu over the other flavors? | 21:13 |
| clivejo | I was using Ubuntu for a long time and during one of the development cycles it became clear to me that Unity was there to stay. I personally find Unity very unhelpful and gets in the way of the way I use my computer | 21:16 |
| clivejo | so I installed kubuntu and loved it | 21:16 |
| ahoneybun | nice | 21:17 |
| ahoneybun | anymore questions? | 21:17 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu enables me to use my machine to its full potential and customised to my way of doing things | 21:18 |
| yofel | clivejo: what do you think should be improved the most in kubuntu? | 21:18 |
| clivejo | Thats a hard question! | 21:18 |
| yofel | it's a customary one ;) | 21:19 |
| clivejo | from what angle? | 21:19 |
| yofel | what annoys you the most? | 21:20 |
| claydoh | any angle | 21:20 |
| clivejo | It sometimes feels like Kubuntu is like two goats tied to a piece of rope. One is wearing the Ubuntu hat and the other is KDE | 21:21 |
| clivejo | they dont always pull togther | 21:21 |
| clivejo | for example release schedules | 21:21 |
| yofel | true | 21:21 |
| clivejo | I know we have backports, but most users dont know about that | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | that problem exists in Ubuntu GNOME as well | 21:22 |
| clivejo | they just want their computer to work | 21:22 |
| yofel | do you have an idea how we could improve there? | 21:23 |
| sgclark | yeah and many companies do not enable backports, the biggest complaint I get, they want stuff in archive.. | 21:23 |
| clivejo | Ive heard people saying that 15.10 isnt very stable and the plasma version released should have been allowed to mature | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | that is Plamsa 5 in general | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | anything "New" is hard for people to get used to | 21:24 |
| yofel | it's true, although plasma also recieves part of the blame from the application porting chaos | 21:24 |
| sgclark | exactly why I do not want to go with 5.6 in xenial | 21:24 |
| clivejo | most people just want it to work | 21:25 |
| valorie | oops, sorry I'm late | 21:25 |
| valorie | reading up.... | 21:25 |
| yofel | you're still on time ;) | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | your fine valorie :) | 21:25 |
| clivejo | but I totally understand rolling wouldnt be good for the average user | 21:26 |
| ahoneybun | half rolling could work | 21:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: what would you do to improve Kubuntu? What's your idea for doing things better? | 21:27 |
| clivejo | I want to help get KDE software into the Ubuntu ecosystem faster and make it easier on the people who do it | 21:28 |
| clivejo | people like yofel and sgclark have put a LOT of their time into it, if I can take a little bit of that pressure off them, thats my goal | 21:29 |
| yofel | any of your work is appreciated, believe me ;) | 21:30 |
| ahoneybun | unless valorie has anymore questions I think we can move onto voting | 21:30 |
| yofel | valorie: any questions? | 21:30 |
| valorie | clivejo: what do you need from us, to help you accomplish your goal? | 21:31 |
| clivejo | at the moment I need membership, but I also enjoy the fun and banter that this community offers | 21:32 |
| valorie | btw: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-7547.html if anyone asks about the glibc vuln | 21:32 |
| ubottu | ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-7547) | 21:32 |
| valorie | pfff | 21:33 |
| valorie | great, I'm ready to vote! | 21:33 |
| yofel | ack, then lets get this over with | 21:33 |
| clivejo | but Im sure Ill be asking many things from you all | 21:33 |
| sgclark | +100 | 21:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: don't hesitate to ask | 21:33 |
| valorie | +1 from me | 21:33 |
| claydoh | banter is free ;) | 21:33 |
| yofel | +1 | 21:33 |
| ahoneybun | +1 | 21:34 |
| claydoh | +1 | 21:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | +1 | 21:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | so that's 105 so far | 21:34 |
| sgclark | lol | 21:34 |
| yofel | all he needed was +3, so we're done | 21:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | votes are in | 21:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | yeeey | 21:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: welcome :D | 21:34 |
| sgclark | wlcome clivejo!! | 21:34 |
| yofel | clivejo: welcome | 21:34 |
| valorie | weeeeeeeeeeeee! | 21:34 |
| clivejo | thank you | 21:34 |
| yofel | now I need to remember what we actually need to do now.. | 21:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: is there a public picture of you available somewhere? | 21:35 |
| * yofel will take care of LP | 21:35 | |
| Mamarok | well, late, as usual, sorry, folks, was not around, but of course a clear +1 from me as well | 21:35 |
| Mamarok | welcome clivejo | 21:35 |
| * ovidiu-florin already wrote a news article and podcast note | 21:35 | |
| yofel | perfect, +6. clivejo aced the meeting ;) | 21:35 |
| ahoneybun | welcome clivejo | 21:35 |
| valorie | now you can start studying up for your Kubuntu Devel meeting | 21:36 |
| valorie | :-) | 21:36 |
| Mamarok | now I should take my courage in both hands and update my Kubuntu version... | 21:36 |
| Mamarok | I don't dare to say which I use... | 21:36 |
| valorie | what are you running now, Mamarok? | 21:36 |
| ovidiu-florin | people, please give me feedback on this article: https://kubuntu.org/?p=2514&preview=true you need to be logged in to see it | 21:36 |
| Mamarok | 14.10 | 21:36 |
| valorie | oh, lol | 21:36 |
| valorie | cool, you can test lts backports | 21:37 |
| Mamarok | and recent only on a USB stick, but I rarely have time to actually run it | 21:37 |
| clivejo | Im not one for studying | 21:37 |
| valorie | well, studying by doing is good | 21:37 |
| Mamarok | the problem is that this is my work computer, so I tried to stick with KDE4 as long as possible, but I guess Plasma5 is stable enough now | 21:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: is there a public picture of you I can use for the news article? | 21:38 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin, good link the LP page too? | 21:38 |
| valorie | Mamarok: it's been very stable for me | 21:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: wiki has link to lp | 21:38 |
| valorie | both in 15.10 and 16.04 | 21:38 |
| ahoneybun | alright | 21:38 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: I doubt it! I dont post photos of me! | 21:38 |
| valorie | question to yofel and sgclark: are we backporting plasma 5.5.4 to 15.10 ? | 21:38 |
| yofel | clivejo: you're now part of the LP group. | 21:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | are you willing to provide one for the news and the team members page? | 21:39 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: Id rather not if thats ok | 21:39 |
| valorie | I've been using the stuff from backports-landing for at least a week and it's stable | 21:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 21:39 |
| sgclark | backports are not possible atm, we can't even finish current release | 21:39 |
| yofel | clivejo: you're now also eligible for the things on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks | 21:39 |
| sgclark | we are struggling.. | 21:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | ====================== clivejo membership meeting END ======================== | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin, you could use a default one from the Breeze icon set | 21:40 |
| clivejo | yofel: When can I press the Build Now button on KCI? | 21:40 |
| yofel | didn't we backport it already? | 21:40 |
| valorie | no | 21:40 |
| clivejo | yofel: still in landing | 21:40 |
| yofel | clivejo: you should already be able to. You might have to re-login on KCI | 21:40 |
| yofel | make sure your team membership is checked in the SSO login | 21:40 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: thanks for drawing a line under it | 21:40 |
| valorie | :-) | 21:40 |
| clivejo | yofel: 5.5.4 never got moved to backports | 21:40 |
| soee_ | clivejo: high five :) | 21:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: ;) | 21:40 |
| yofel | clivejo: do we need to do anything more for it? | 21:41 |
| clivejo | soee_: can you report on the testing of 5.5.4 on wily? | 21:41 |
| * clivejo high fives soee_ :) | 21:42 | |
| Mamarok | hm, I guess I will install xenial, my home is already backed up, so I can as well go for the latest | 21:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | feedback please: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-has-a-new-member-clive-johnston/ | 21:42 |
| claydoh | congrats clivejo!!!!!!!!!!! | 21:43 |
| yofel | now to send the email.. | 21:43 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: put the time, of course | 21:44 |
| valorie | and: Clive has been around for a while now, helping Scarlett and Philip with the packaging and continuous integration, and his efforts are to be proud of. | 21:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | what's the time in UTC? | 21:44 |
| clivejo | 21:44 | 21:44 |
| valorie | the end might be better his efforts have already made a huge difference or so | 21:45 |
| valorie | I like the snippet from the log | 21:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: time was updated | 21:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | also added link to meeting log | 21:45 |
| valorie | cool | 21:46 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: if you have PM, you should drop the 0 in 09:35 | 21:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | updated | 21:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | anything else? | 21:47 |
| soee_ | clivejo: there was all fine | 21:47 |
| clivejo | soee_: anything that needs attention? | 21:47 |
| soee_ | not that i remember | 21:47 |
| clivejo | yofel: I delegated the testing to soee_ | 21:47 |
| soee_ | several people tested it as far as i know | 21:48 |
| yofel | I'm pretty sure I also didn't really see anything that was worse from 5.5.3 | 21:48 |
| yofel | so we probably just forgot to copy it | 21:48 |
| yofel | mail sent | 21:49 |
| valorie | at the time you said there were a couple of things you wanted to clear up | 21:49 |
| yofel | what else.. | 21:49 |
| valorie | how close are we to being done with Applications? | 21:49 |
| * clivejo growls @ valorie | 21:50 | |
| yofel | thanks to clive and scarlett, very close | 21:50 |
| valorie | \o/ | 21:50 |
| clivejo | debian merges should be a form of torture! | 21:51 |
| sgclark | indeed | 21:51 |
| ximion | yofel: why did you CC Mark? :D | 21:51 |
| sgclark | I am now trying to sort out kdenlive which evidenlty needs svn merged.. | 21:51 |
| clivejo | and who ever invented epochs was an very evil person! | 21:51 |
| yofel | ximion: uh, that's what I always did when I sent those mails (I think I got that from jonathan..) | 21:51 |
| sgclark | ximion: Jonathan did that on mine | 21:52 |
| ximion | clivejo: welcome! I thought you were already Kubuntu member :-) | 21:52 |
| yofel | ikr :D | 21:52 |
| ximion | yofel: oh, I didn't know ^^ | 21:52 |
| ximion | completely missed the meeting, sorry :-/ | 21:53 |
| yofel | he does sign the membership certificates, so I think he still likes to get the new member notices | 21:53 |
| valorie | it was a shorty | 21:53 |
| clivejo | membership certificate? | 21:53 |
| blaze | will it (debian merges) be any better for the next release? | 21:53 |
| ximion | clivejo: you can get a signed certificate from Mark | 21:53 |
| yofel | clivejo: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks | 21:54 |
| clivejo | yofel: you know the links you send me always make me sleepy :P | 21:54 |
| yofel | hey, you're getting stuff for free here :P | 21:54 |
| ximion | sgclark: since you're here ( \o/ ): apol and I would like to know the status of the appstreamcli validate integration with the KDE CI ;-) | 21:54 |
| ximion | I squash bugs downstream from time to time when something important pops up on appstream.debian.org/html , but there are still plenty of KDE apps which don't get all the metadata right | 21:55 |
| valorie | blaze: we may be able to just sync next time | 21:55 |
| ximion | the AppStream stuff is mostly fine though, it's more things like Comment? fileds missing in .desktop files etc. | 21:55 |
| sgclark | ximion getting killed with debian merges. BlameKubuntu for my failure with KDE hat :( | 21:55 |
| valorie | which as I understand is far easier | 21:55 |
| * ximion starts blaming | 21:56 | |
| yofel | noooooo | 21:56 |
| valorie | I keep trying to recruit new packagers..... | 21:56 |
| clivejo | valorie: when do I get my cookies? | 21:57 |
| ximion | sgclark: well, since last week, AppStream is fully integrated with Ubuntu too, you will notice in in Discover when you package a Git snapshot..... - so technically, this task would help Kubuntu ^^ | 21:57 |
| ximion | see http://appstream.ubuntu.com/xenial/index.html | 21:57 |
| valorie | oooo, I'll have to get that together | 21:57 |
| ximion | all official, launched after FOSDEM - not sure if our mail announcing it was sent though, I didn't see it in my inbox | 21:57 |
| sgclark | ximion: I am fully aware. I am so sorry. Need more hours in the day. | 21:58 |
| ximion | sgclark: believe me, I understand that... | 21:58 |
| valorie | sgclark: I've been advocating for a 30-hour day for some years | 21:58 |
| * ximion has too many projects and none to give up | 21:58 | |
| valorie | so far, the Earth isn't listening to me | 21:58 |
| sgclark | haha | 21:58 |
| sgclark | ximion: I did start it though, I hope to get back to it soon. | 21:59 |
| ximion | valorie: we can move development to Venus, AFAIR it has a more than 200days-day | 22:01 |
| valorie | I like breathing oxygen though! | 22:01 |
| ximion | sgclark: next time we meet you need to explain me the steps for implementing this - because in my naive imagination it's just adding a command and checking it's exit status or parsing it's output :P | 22:02 |
| sgclark | ximion: that was the easy part. it is not finding the sources though. and the CI puts sources in obscure places for syncing :( | 22:02 |
| sgclark | it just ends up root:unknown I assume that means no sources | 22:03 |
| ximion | valorie: then a base on Mercury would work too! (50-day-day, and one hot and one cold phase (as in *very* hot and *very* cold, it's like a sauna! :P) | 22:03 |
| sgclark | and by sources I mean installed binaries directory | 22:04 |
| valorie | ximion: I think the wifi wouldn't work well enough though | 22:04 |
| valorie | I'm very picky, I know | 22:04 |
| valorie | lol | 22:04 |
| ximion | sgclark: maybe there just is no metadata? You get a "No AppStream metadata was found" message in that case | 22:04 |
| sgclark | ximion: for every kde project? that would be bad! | 22:04 |
| ximion | Wifi? You just need a looooong cable ^^ | 22:05 |
| ximion | sgclark: hmm, do you run it on the install dir, so appstreamcli validate-tree $DESTDIR? And does metadata exist in $DESTDIR/usr/share/appdata? | 22:06 |
| ximion | maybe the data is just installed into /usr/local/share, where it doesn't belong | 22:06 |
| sgclark | ximion: let me look | 22:06 |
| sgclark | ximion: sorry you were right No AppStream metadata was found. | 22:07 |
| sgclark | ximion: let me see if I can get it to rint path it is looking | 22:08 |
| sgclark | print.. | 22:08 |
| * ximion hopes this isn't his bug | 22:08 | |
| Mamarok | have you all updated your glib already? looks like a really nasty security issue | 22:10 |
| valorie | yep | 22:18 |
| clivejo | sgclark: hows the merges going? | 22:43 |
| ScottK | clivejo: congratulations. | 22:43 |
| clivejo | thanks ScottK | 22:43 |
| sgclark | I am currently cursing at the debian dev that is using svn for kdenlive. | 22:44 |
| sgclark | I have wasted an entire morning / afternoon on this. | 22:44 |
| valorie | svn? that seems strange | 22:44 |
| sgclark | right? | 22:45 |
| clivejo | any progress with PIM? | 22:46 |
| sgclark | you tell me? you have the same qa sheet as I do lol | 22:47 |
| clivejo | but but but kdepimlibs is marked sgclark WIP | 22:49 |
| clivejo | on trello | 22:49 |
| sgclark | blah unmark it | 22:49 |
| sgclark | I am not currently working on it. | 22:49 |
| sgclark | sorry | 22:49 |
| clivejo | yofel: ping | 22:50 |
| yofel | hm? | 22:50 |
| clivejo | would you help me? | 22:51 |
| yofel | it would help to know with what? ^^ | 22:51 |
| clivejo | PIM! | 22:51 |
| * yofel ponders whether he should run away | 22:51 | |
| yofel | okay, it's late, so I can answer a couple questions, but we'll probably have to continue tomorrow | 22:52 |
| clivejo | what should I start on? | 22:52 |
| sgclark | yes, tomorrow, my stress levels are high,need a break :( | 22:52 |
| yofel | kdepimlibs - but wasn't that done? | 22:53 |
| sgclark | possibly needs another look. I will tomorrow, sorry so many distractions.. | 22:53 |
| yofel | np, thanks | 22:54 |
| sgclark | my brain hurts | 22:54 |
| clivejo | kdepimlibs seems to be ok | 22:55 |
| clivejo | according to qa | 22:55 |
| * valorie hands sgclark some nice calming tea | 22:55 | |
| sgclark | clivejo: then it may just be a matter of rebuilding pim stuff against new kdepimlibs | 22:56 |
| clivejo | the rest are version 15.12.0, hav they been uploaded? | 22:58 |
| sgclark | what!?!?! | 22:59 |
| sgclark | oh. kdepim and kdepim-runtime have not been done at all | 22:59 |
| sgclark | the other libs have though | 22:59 |
| ximion | sgclark: found anything buggy in appstreamcli? | 23:00 |
| ximion | (it works well here though) | 23:00 |
| ximion | I'm aiming at getting a bug-free variant into the LTS, obviously | 23:01 |
| sgclark | ximion working on that right now as we speak. (hense why my Kubuntu hat is failing) !!! | 23:02 |
| * sgclark runs for the hills | 23:02 | |
| ximion | :D | 23:11 |
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| sgclark | ximion: it is in the install location but still not finding metadata. My sample project rocks installed org.kde.roc.desktop in /share/applications | 23:45 |
| sgclark | ximion1: ^^ | 23:45 |
| sgclark | rocs | 23:46 |
| ximion1 | sgclark: is there some XML in /usr/share/appdata? | 23:47 |
| sgclark | ximion1: nope | 23:48 |
| ximion1 | sgclark: then that's the problem ^^ | 23:48 |
| ximion1 | I wonder why though | 23:48 |
| ximion1 | the cmake script has | 23:48 |
| ximion1 | install(FILES org.kde.rocs.appdata.xml DESTINATION ${SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/appdata/) | 23:48 |
| sgclark | gosh I am blind. ximion1 it installed to /share/appdata | 23:50 |
| sgclark | no /usr | 23:50 |
| ximion1 | sgclark: that seems to be a bug in the CMakeLists then... | 23:51 |
| * ximion1 investigates | 23:51 | |
| ximion1 | you can try JuK - it's also small and definitely installs data correctly: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=juk.git | 23:51 |
| sgclark | ximion1: ok | 23:51 |
| ximion1 | unfortunately I can't check for broken CMakeLists ^^ | 23:52 |
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| sgclark | ximion: nope also /share/appdata is the CI env set wrong maybe? | 23:57 |
| ximion | sgclark: yes, I just wanted to write back with asking you about that ^^ | 23:58 |
| ximion | because Rocs is fine | 23:58 |
| sgclark | ok let me look | 23:58 |
| ximion | likely, the build env doesn't set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to /usr, or actually unsets it (since /usr or /usr/local should be the default) | 23:58 |
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