[00:09] <valorie> clivejo: I just got a text from sgclark
[00:10] <valorie> a car accident took out the power from her whole neighborhood
[00:10] <clivejo> eakk
[00:10] <valorie> so she asks that if you can upload that stuff you were discussing
[00:10] <valorie> please do it
[00:10] <valorie> :(
[00:10] <valorie> yeah
[01:03] <apol> valorie: installing kubuntu-desktop broke while configuring packages :/ http://imgur.com/BzePSh5
[01:08] <cpatrick08> Does anybody know when the ISOs and user edition repo will be available?
[01:20] <claydoh> cpatrick08: ??
[01:21] <cpatrick08> claydoh, yes i'm here
[01:22] <cpatrick08> here's the info on project neon http://neon.kde.org.uk/
[01:23] <clivejo> cpatrick08: Project Neon and KDE Neon are two different projects
[01:24] <claydoh> cpatrick08: #kde-neon
[01:24] <clivejo> For questions about KDE Neon you need to ask in #kde-neon
[09:19] <mardy> hi all! Is anyone available to help with bug 1451728?
[09:25] <cyphermox> is there anyone here who typically looks after ubiquity for the qt version of it? I really wouldn't mind some help there, I'm not at all familiar with Qt stuff
[09:26] <cyphermox> I'm unbreaking it now, but it would really benefit from some extra love.
[09:27] <soee> sitter: sorry for bothering but do you remember who maintained it ^ ?
[09:28] <Quintasan> mardy: What exactly you'd like help with? I can't say I can see an easy solution here. We'd either have to mark those packages as conflicting or merge the providers or patch up apparmor
[09:29] <mardy> Quintasan: well, the latter would be the ideal solution, but if we don't have time for it, then at least we should mark the packages as conflicting
[09:30] <mardy> Quintasan: I can take care of the apparmor profile for MC, but I'd rather leave the kaccounts packaging work to someone else
[09:34] <Quintasan> Right. I'll have to install 15.04 to test it.
[09:35] <Quintasan> mardy: If someone doesn't take care of it by tomorrow then I'll do it. I'm at work now unfortunately.
[09:35] <mardy> Quintasan: excellent, thanks!
[09:43] <sitter> soee_: nobody
[10:10] <soee_> sitter: ok, thank you
[12:17] <yofel> cyphermox: typically Jonathan, so currently nobody. I wanted to take a look at it once we're done with our packaging tasks, meaning in a week or so.
[12:22] <yofel> sitter: btw. clemens said that he wouldn't mind covering the kubuntu ci server costs as long as we don't use it for anything else without prior notice
[12:22] <yofel> can we get access to the thing somehow?
[12:23] <yofel> and I can't access paste.kde.org, uhuh - sec_error_ocsp_bad_signature
[13:11] <sitter> yofel: need to evacuate some keys first I think xD
[13:11] <sitter> will get on it soon(tm)
[13:11] <yofel> sure, no hurry
[13:11] <yofel> thansk
[13:42] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[16:21] <ScottK> If anyone can test the 14.04.4 images, all they really need is some basic smoke testing.
[17:01] <marco-parillo> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds
[17:01] <marco-parillo> ScottK: ? ^^
[17:04] <ScottK> marco-parillo: yes
[17:05] <ScottK> There will be one respin, so if you find something, there's at least a chance for an update.
[17:11] <marco-parillo> !testers: ^^^
[17:11] <marco-parillo> !testers
[18:03] <Emanuel> who is responsible with the security review of the packages ?
[18:04] <Emanuel> such as lz4 ?
[18:07] <Emanuel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule 2 days left
[18:10] <Emanuel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lz4/+bug/1531923
[18:12] <sgclark> Emanuel: that is upstream ubuntu - unrelated to Kubuntu. try #ubuntu-devel
[18:13] <Emanuel> ups
[18:21] <soee> apps 15.12.2 released :)
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: thank you for kdenlive
[19:57] <sgclark> don't thank me yet haha,  failing
[19:58] <sgclark> uh ssl_connect error, not sure that is my fault
[20:00] <sgclark> sitter:  any idea on ssl_connect error?
[20:00] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: I say you've finished the debian merge on it
[20:00] <ovidiu-florin> that's why I'm thanking you
[20:00] <ovidiu-florin> but I should be thanking you for the entire work, not just kdenlive
[20:01] <sgclark> oh hehe np
[20:01] <sgclark> oh. all these failure are ssl connect errors..
[20:01] <clivejo> eakkk
[20:01] <clivejo> qa has gone crazy!
[20:01] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html
[20:02] <sgclark> that looks like ssl errors as well
[20:02] <sgclark> good grief what is going on with ssl?!?!
[20:02] <clivejo> maybe LP ?
[20:03] <sgclark> the ci builds are failing at source, so that is kde servers
[20:03] <sgclark> qa must be lp?
[20:03] <clivejo> kci builds on LP?
[20:04] <sgclark> blech I don't now. All I knowis I see a common SSL_CONNECT error.
[20:05] <clivejo> sgclark: pretty sure it uploads to this PPA - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/
[20:08] <sgclark> clivejo: yeah I am aware of where it uploads.
[20:09] <sgclark> clivejo: but unless you know how to fix the SSL_CONNECT errors we are dead in the water.
[20:12] <sgclark> point of failure: 20:03:38 /usr/lib/ruby/2.1.0/net/http.rb:920:in `connect': Connection reset by peer - SSL_connect
[20:12] <sgclark> all of them, pausing CI, this is a waste.
[20:30] <ahoneybun> 30mins to clivejo's membership meeting
[20:38] <ahoneybun> clivejo, ovidiu-florin valorie yofel 
[20:38] <sgclark> good luck clivejo! I would be shocked and angry if you don't get it though lol
[20:39] <yofel> this will be a short meeting
[20:39] <sgclark> :)
[20:39] <ahoneybun> sgclark, it's kinda don't bite the hand that feeds you moment 
[20:39] <sgclark> I don't get it
[20:40] <ahoneybun> you would not hurt someone who feeds you
[20:40] <ahoneybun> ie packages 
[20:40] <sgclark> oh right. hense why I would be angry if he did not get it :)
[20:41]  * sgclark cheers for clivejo on the sidelines
[20:42] <sgclark> yofel: btw are efforts are halted by these ssl_connect error, dunno even who to bug to fix them.
[20:42] <sgclark> s/are/our
[20:43] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: pong
[20:47] <ahoneybun> meeting in 15mins ovidiu-florin 
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> I know
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> I'm here
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> do I have to be somewhere else?
[20:47] <ahoneybun> not that I'm aware of
[20:49] <soee> woho http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Joins-Khronos-For-Vulkan
[20:49]  * ovidiu-florin is listening to Ray Charles
[20:50]  * ahoneybun is listening to Hollywood Undead
[20:50]  * mamarley is listening to the dying fan bearing on his work computer :(
[20:53] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: Kenny D, [16.02.16 12:48] there are problems with firefox not liking the apache ssl settings
[20:54] <sgclark> interesting, but our CI system uses firefox? O.o
[20:54] <clivejo> sgclark: I think LP is fixed, can you unpause KCI?
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> firefox is not the issue
[20:54] <sgclark> sure
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> the certificat is
[20:54] <sgclark> unpaused
[20:55] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: ok. still don't know what to do to fix it lol
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: check out the confersation on KDE Cafe
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: my guess is wait
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> the issue you're havins is with a KDE site?
[20:56] <sgclark> welll hard to tell. it may very well be LP
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> is there a way to find out?
[20:56]  * ovidiu-florin is a typo master today
[20:57] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: sure read the log: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kdenlive/180/console
[20:57] <sgclark> to me it looks like it is failing getting binaries fro mLP
[20:58]  * sgclark is a typo master everyday. 
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> can I see the script that makes that call?
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> meeting time?
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> where should we be?
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> here?
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo ahoneybun yofel? ^
[21:00] <ahoneybun> yea
[21:00]  * clivejo waves
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[21:00] <ovidiu-florin> [21:00] <ahoneybun> we need at least 3
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> hello people
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> let's have a show of hands
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> o/
[21:01] <ahoneybun> o/
[21:01] <claydoh> o/
[21:01] <yofel> o/
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark valorie ?
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo ?
[21:02] <clivejo> o/
[21:02] <sgclark> ?
[21:02] <sgclark> I am not on KC
[21:02] <clivejo> neither am I :/
[21:03] <yofel> Mamarok: ping if you want to chime in
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: your opinion also matters
[21:03] <sgclark> +1
[21:03] <yofel> clivejo: you're still kind of important right now ;P
[21:03] <ahoneybun> it's not like anyone is going to do a -1 or 0
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> -0
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> :-P
[21:04]  * ovidiu-florin want's to do the impossible
[21:05] <ovidiu-florin> so, yofel, you have more experience with these meetings, care to chair?
[21:05] <clivejo> President Yofel
[21:05] <ahoneybun> we have enough people
[21:05] <yofel> sure
[21:05] <ahoneybun> --- Begin questioning ---
[21:06] <yofel> clivejo: so, just for the record, can you do a small introduction of yourself and tell us why you want to be a kubuntu member?
[21:07] <clivejo> Im not great at talking about myself, but why I want to be a member - the honest answer is I want to be able to help out ie pause KCI and so forth
[21:08] <clivejo> rather than having to ask other people to do it
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: let me help you
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> Who are you?
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> where are you form?
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> waht do you do?
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> why Kubuntu?
[21:09] <claydoh> what is your favorite flavour of ice cream?
[21:09]  * sgclark gives hint to clivejo (link your wiki page) :)
[21:09] <clivejo> oh, I thought that was the reason for the wiki page!
[21:09] <clivejo> Im Clive, from Co Fermanagh in N. Ireland
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> it is, but don't assume all present here read it
[21:09] <clivejo> I have my fingers in a lot of pies
[21:10]  * ovidiu-florin likes apple pie
[21:10] <ahoneybun> clivejo, link your wiki and LP
[21:10] <clivejo> some people here know me from genealogy and history, other know me from OpenStreetMap
[21:11] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~clivejo
[21:11] <clivejo> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/~clivejo
[21:12] <clivejo> I studied computers to degree level which is very much a love hate relationship
[21:12] <clivejo> after that I went into property management
[21:13] <clivejo> bit of a Jack of all trades!
[21:13] <ahoneybun> clivejo, why did you pick Kubuntu over the other flavors?
[21:16] <clivejo> I was using Ubuntu for a long time and during one of the development cycles it became clear to me that Unity was there to stay.  I personally find Unity very unhelpful and gets in the way of the way I use my computer
[21:16] <clivejo> so I installed kubuntu and loved it
[21:17] <ahoneybun> nice
[21:17] <ahoneybun> anymore questions?
[21:18] <clivejo> Kubuntu enables me to use my machine to its full potential and customised to my way of doing things
[21:18] <yofel> clivejo: what do you think should be improved the most in kubuntu?
[21:18] <clivejo> Thats a hard question!
[21:19] <yofel> it's a customary one ;)
[21:19] <clivejo> from what angle?
[21:20] <yofel> what annoys you the most?
[21:20] <claydoh> any angle 
[21:21] <clivejo> It sometimes feels like Kubuntu is like two goats tied to a piece of rope.  One is wearing the Ubuntu hat and the other is KDE
[21:21] <clivejo> they dont always pull togther
[21:21] <clivejo> for example release schedules
[21:21] <yofel> true
[21:22] <clivejo> I know we have backports, but most users dont know about that
[21:22] <ahoneybun> that problem exists in Ubuntu GNOME as well
[21:22] <clivejo> they just want their computer to work
[21:23] <yofel> do you have an idea how we could improve there?
[21:23] <sgclark> yeah and many companies do not enable backports, the biggest complaint I get, they want stuff in archive..
[21:24] <clivejo> Ive heard people saying that 15.10 isnt very stable and the plasma version released should have been allowed to mature
[21:24] <ahoneybun> that is Plamsa 5 in general
[21:24] <ahoneybun> anything "New" is hard for people to get used to
[21:24] <yofel> it's true, although plasma also recieves part of the blame from the application porting chaos
[21:24] <sgclark> exactly why I do not want to go with 5.6 in xenial
[21:25] <clivejo> most people just want it to work
[21:25] <valorie> oops, sorry I'm late
[21:25] <valorie> reading up....
[21:25] <yofel> you're still on time ;)
[21:25] <ahoneybun> your fine valorie :)
[21:26] <clivejo> but I totally understand rolling wouldnt be good for the average user
[21:27] <ahoneybun> half rolling could work
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: what would you do to improve Kubuntu? What's your idea for doing things better?
[21:28] <clivejo> I want to help get KDE software into the Ubuntu ecosystem faster and make it easier on the people who do it
[21:29] <clivejo> people like yofel and sgclark have put a LOT of their time into it, if I can take a little bit of that pressure off them, thats my goal
[21:30] <yofel> any of your work is appreciated, believe me ;)
[21:30] <ahoneybun> unless valorie has anymore questions I think we can move onto voting
[21:30] <yofel> valorie: any questions?
[21:31] <valorie> clivejo: what do you need from us, to help you accomplish your goal?
[21:32] <clivejo> at the moment I need membership, but I also enjoy the fun and banter that this community offers
[21:32] <valorie> btw: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-7547.html if anyone asks about the glibc vuln
[21:33] <valorie> pfff
[21:33] <valorie> great, I'm ready to vote!
[21:33] <yofel> ack, then lets get this over with
[21:33] <clivejo> but Im sure Ill be asking many things from you all
[21:33] <sgclark> +100
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: don't hesitate to ask
[21:33] <valorie> +1 from me
[21:33] <claydoh> banter is free ;)
[21:33] <yofel> +1
[21:34] <ahoneybun> +1
[21:34] <claydoh> +1
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> +1
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> so that's 105 so far
[21:34] <sgclark> lol
[21:34] <yofel> all he needed was +3, so we're done
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> votes are in
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> yeeey
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: welcome :D
[21:34] <sgclark> wlcome clivejo!!
[21:34] <yofel> clivejo: welcome
[21:34] <valorie> weeeeeeeeeeeee!
[21:34] <clivejo> thank you
[21:35] <yofel> now I need to remember what we actually need to do now..
[21:35] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: is there a public picture of you available somewhere?
[21:35]  * yofel will take care of LP
[21:35] <Mamarok> well, late, as usual, sorry, folks, was not around, but of course a clear +1 from me as well
[21:35] <Mamarok> welcome clivejo
[21:35]  * ovidiu-florin already wrote a news article and podcast note
[21:35] <yofel> perfect, +6. clivejo aced the meeting ;)
[21:35] <ahoneybun> welcome clivejo 
[21:36] <valorie> now you can start studying up for your Kubuntu Devel meeting
[21:36] <valorie> :-)
[21:36] <Mamarok> now I should take my courage in both hands and update my Kubuntu version...
[21:36] <Mamarok> I don't dare to say which I use...
[21:36] <valorie> what are you running now, Mamarok?
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> people, please give me feedback on this article: https://kubuntu.org/?p=2514&preview=true you need to be logged in to see it
[21:36] <Mamarok> 14.10
[21:36] <valorie> oh, lol
[21:37] <valorie> cool, you can test lts backports
[21:37] <Mamarok> and recent only on a USB stick, but I rarely have time to actually run it
[21:37] <clivejo> Im not one for studying
[21:37] <valorie> well, studying by doing is good
[21:37] <Mamarok> the problem is that this is my work computer, so I tried to stick with KDE4 as long as possible, but I guess Plasma5 is stable enough now
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: is there a public picture of you I can use for the news article?
[21:38] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, good link the LP page too?
[21:38] <valorie> Mamarok: it's been very stable for me
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: wiki has link to lp
[21:38] <valorie> both in 15.10 and 16.04
[21:38] <ahoneybun> alright
[21:38] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: I doubt it! I dont post photos of me!
[21:38] <valorie> question to yofel and sgclark: are we backporting plasma 5.5.4 to 15.10 ?
[21:38] <yofel> clivejo: you're now part of the LP group.
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> are you willing to provide one for the news and the team members page?
[21:39] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: Id rather not if thats ok
[21:39] <valorie> I've been using the stuff from backports-landing for at least a week and it's stable
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[21:39] <sgclark> backports are not possible atm, we can't even finish current release
[21:39] <yofel> clivejo: you're now also eligible for the things on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks
[21:39] <sgclark> we are struggling..
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> [21:40] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, you could use a default one from the Breeze icon set
[21:40] <clivejo> yofel: When can I press the Build Now button on KCI?
[21:40] <yofel> didn't we backport it already?
[21:40] <valorie> no
[21:40] <clivejo> yofel: still in landing
[21:40] <yofel> clivejo: you should already be able to. You might have to re-login on KCI
[21:40] <yofel> make sure your team membership is checked in the SSO login
[21:40] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: thanks for drawing a line under it
[21:40] <valorie> :-)
[21:40] <clivejo> yofel: 5.5.4 never got moved to backports
[21:40] <soee_> clivejo: high five :)
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: ;)
[21:41] <yofel> clivejo: do we need to do anything more for it?
[21:41] <clivejo> soee_: can you report on the testing of 5.5.4 on wily?
[21:42]  * clivejo high fives soee_ :)
[21:42] <Mamarok> hm, I guess I will install xenial, my home is already backed up, so I can as well go for the latest
[21:42] <ovidiu-florin> feedback please: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-has-a-new-member-clive-johnston/ 
[21:43] <claydoh> congrats clivejo!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:43] <yofel> now to send the email..
[21:44] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: put the time, of course
[21:44] <valorie> and: Clive has been around for a while now, helping Scarlett and Philip with the packaging and continuous integration, and his efforts are to be proud of.
[21:44] <ovidiu-florin> what's the time in UTC?
[21:44] <clivejo> 21:44
[21:45] <valorie> the end might be better his efforts have already made a huge difference or so
[21:45] <valorie> I like the snippet from the log
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: time was updated
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> also added link to meeting log
[21:46] <valorie> cool
[21:46] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: if you have PM, you should drop the 0 in 09:35
[21:47] <ovidiu-florin> updated
[21:47] <ovidiu-florin> anything else?
[21:47] <soee_> clivejo: there was all fine
[21:47] <clivejo> soee_: anything that needs attention?
[21:47] <soee_> not that i remember
[21:47] <clivejo> yofel: I delegated the testing to soee_ 
[21:48] <soee_> several people tested it as far as i know
[21:48] <yofel> I'm pretty sure I also didn't really see anything that was worse from 5.5.3
[21:48] <yofel> so we probably just forgot to copy it
[21:49] <yofel> mail sent
[21:49] <valorie> at the time you said there were a couple of things you wanted to clear up
[21:49] <yofel> what else..
[21:49] <valorie> how close are we to being done with Applications?
[21:50]  * clivejo growls @ valorie
[21:50] <yofel> thanks to clive and scarlett, very close
[21:50] <valorie> \o/
[21:51] <clivejo> debian merges should be a form of torture!
[21:51] <sgclark> indeed
[21:51] <ximion> yofel: why did you CC Mark? :D
[21:51] <sgclark> I am now trying  to sort out kdenlive which evidenlty needs svn merged..
[21:51] <clivejo> and who ever invented epochs was an very evil person!
[21:51] <yofel> ximion: uh, that's what I always did when I sent those mails (I think I got that from jonathan..)
[21:52] <sgclark> ximion: Jonathan did that on mine
[21:52] <ximion> clivejo: welcome! I thought you were already Kubuntu member :-)
[21:52] <yofel> ikr :D
[21:52] <ximion> yofel: oh, I didn't know ^^
[21:53] <ximion> completely missed the meeting, sorry :-/
[21:53] <yofel> he does sign the membership certificates, so I think he still likes to get the new member notices
[21:53] <valorie> it was a shorty
[21:53] <clivejo> membership certificate?
[21:53] <blaze> will it (debian merges) be any better for the next release?
[21:53] <ximion> clivejo: you can get a signed certificate from Mark
[21:54] <yofel> clivejo: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks
[21:54] <clivejo> yofel: you know the links you send me always make me sleepy :P
[21:54] <yofel> hey, you're getting stuff for free here :P
[21:54] <ximion> sgclark: since you're here ( \o/ ): apol and I would like to know the status of the appstreamcli validate integration with the KDE CI ;-)
[21:55] <ximion> I squash bugs downstream from time to time when something important pops up on appstream.debian.org/html , but there are still plenty of KDE apps which don't get all the metadata right
[21:55] <valorie> blaze: we may be able to just sync next time
[21:55] <ximion> the AppStream stuff is mostly fine though, it's more things like Comment? fileds missing in .desktop files etc.
[21:55] <sgclark> ximion getting killed with debian merges. BlameKubuntu for my failure with KDE hat :(
[21:55] <valorie> which as I understand is far easier
[21:56]  * ximion starts blaming
[21:56] <yofel> noooooo
[21:56] <valorie> I keep trying to recruit new packagers.....
[21:57] <clivejo> valorie: when do I get my cookies?
[21:57] <ximion> sgclark: well, since last week, AppStream is fully integrated with Ubuntu too, you will notice in in Discover when you package a Git snapshot..... - so technically, this task would help Kubuntu ^^
[21:57] <ximion> see http://appstream.ubuntu.com/xenial/index.html
[21:57] <valorie> oooo, I'll have to get that together
[21:57] <ximion> all official, launched after FOSDEM - not sure if our mail announcing it was sent though, I didn't see it in my inbox
[21:58] <sgclark> ximion: I am fully aware. I am so sorry. Need more hours in the day.
[21:58] <ximion> sgclark: believe me, I understand that...
[21:58] <valorie> sgclark: I've been advocating for a 30-hour day for some years
[21:58]  * ximion has too many projects and none to give up
[21:58] <valorie> so far, the Earth isn't listening to me
[21:58] <sgclark> haha
[21:59] <sgclark> ximion: I did start it though, I hope to get back to it soon.
[22:01] <ximion> valorie: we can move development to Venus, AFAIR it has a more than 200days-day
[22:01] <valorie> I like breathing oxygen though!
[22:02] <ximion> sgclark: next time we meet you need to explain me the steps for implementing this - because in my naive imagination it's just adding a command and checking it's exit status or parsing it's output :P
[22:02] <sgclark> ximion: that was the easy part. it is not finding the sources though. and the CI puts sources in obscure places for syncing :(
[22:03] <sgclark> it just ends up root:unknown I assume that means no sources
[22:03] <ximion> valorie: then a base on Mercury would work too! (50-day-day, and one hot and one cold phase (as in *very* hot and *very* cold, it's like a sauna! :P)
[22:04] <sgclark> and by sources I mean installed binaries directory
[22:04] <valorie> ximion: I think the wifi wouldn't work well enough though
[22:04] <valorie> I'm very picky, I know
[22:04] <valorie> lol
[22:04] <ximion> sgclark: maybe there just is no metadata? You get a "No AppStream metadata was found" message in that case
[22:04] <sgclark> ximion: for every kde project? that would be bad!
[22:05] <ximion> Wifi? You just need a looooong cable ^^
[22:06] <ximion> sgclark: hmm, do you run it on the install dir, so appstreamcli validate-tree $DESTDIR? And does metadata exist in $DESTDIR/usr/share/appdata?
[22:06] <ximion> maybe the data is just installed into /usr/local/share, where it doesn't belong
[22:06] <sgclark> ximion: let me look
[22:07] <sgclark> ximion: sorry you were right No AppStream metadata was found.
[22:08] <sgclark> ximion: let me see if I can get it to rint path it is looking
[22:08] <sgclark> print..
[22:08]  * ximion hopes this isn't his bug
[22:10] <Mamarok> have you all updated your glib already? looks like a really nasty security issue
[22:18] <valorie> yep
[22:43] <clivejo> sgclark: hows the merges going?
[22:43] <ScottK> clivejo: congratulations.
[22:43] <clivejo> thanks ScottK
[22:44] <sgclark> I am currently cursing at the debian dev that is using svn for kdenlive.
[22:44] <sgclark> I have wasted an entire morning / afternoon on this.
[22:44] <valorie> svn? that seems strange
[22:45] <sgclark> right?
[22:46] <clivejo> any progress with PIM?
[22:47] <sgclark> you tell me? you have the same qa sheet as I do lol
[22:49] <clivejo> but but but kdepimlibs is marked sgclark WIP 
[22:49] <clivejo> on trello
[22:49] <sgclark> blah unmark it
[22:49] <sgclark> I am not currently working on it.
[22:49] <sgclark> sorry
[22:50] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[22:50] <yofel> hm?
[22:51] <clivejo> would you help me?
[22:51] <yofel> it would help to know with what? ^^
[22:51] <clivejo> PIM!
[22:51]  * yofel ponders whether he should run away
[22:52] <yofel> okay, it's late, so I can answer a couple questions, but we'll probably have to continue tomorrow
[22:52] <clivejo> what should I start on?
[22:52] <sgclark> yes, tomorrow, my stress levels are high,need a break :(
[22:53] <yofel> kdepimlibs - but wasn't that done?
[22:53] <sgclark> possibly needs another look. I will tomorrow, sorry so many distractions..
[22:54] <yofel> np, thanks
[22:54] <sgclark> my brain hurts
[22:55] <clivejo> kdepimlibs seems to be ok
[22:55] <clivejo> according to qa
[22:55]  * valorie hands sgclark some nice calming tea
[22:56] <sgclark> clivejo: then it may just be a matter of rebuilding pim stuff against new kdepimlibs
[22:58] <clivejo> the rest are version 15.12.0, hav they been uploaded?
[22:59] <sgclark> what!?!?!
[22:59] <sgclark> oh. kdepim and kdepim-runtime have not been done at all
[22:59] <sgclark> the other libs have though
[23:00] <ximion> sgclark: found anything buggy in appstreamcli?
[23:00] <ximion> (it works well here though)
[23:01] <ximion> I'm aiming at getting a bug-free variant into the LTS, obviously
[23:02] <sgclark> ximion working on that right now as we speak. (hense why my Kubuntu hat is failing) !!!
[23:02]  * sgclark runs for the hills
[23:11] <ximion> :D
[23:45] <sgclark> ximion: it is in the install location but still not finding metadata. My sample project rocks installed org.kde.roc.desktop in /share/applications
[23:45] <sgclark> ximion1: ^^
[23:46] <sgclark> rocs
[23:47] <ximion1> sgclark: is there some XML in /usr/share/appdata?
[23:48] <sgclark> ximion1: nope
[23:48] <ximion1> sgclark: then that's the problem ^^
[23:48] <ximion1> I wonder why though
[23:48] <ximion1> the cmake script has
[23:48] <ximion1> install(FILES org.kde.rocs.appdata.xml DESTINATION ${SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/appdata/)
[23:50] <sgclark> gosh I am blind. ximion1 it installed to /share/appdata
[23:50] <sgclark> no /usr
[23:51] <ximion1> sgclark: that seems to be a bug in the CMakeLists then...
[23:51]  * ximion1 investigates
[23:51] <ximion1> you can try JuK - it's also small and definitely installs data correctly: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=juk.git
[23:51] <sgclark> ximion1: ok
[23:52] <ximion1> unfortunately I can't check for broken CMakeLists ^^
[23:57] <sgclark> ximion: nope also /share/appdata is the CI env set wrong maybe?
[23:58] <ximion> sgclark: yes, I just wanted to write back with asking you about that ^^
[23:58] <ximion> because Rocs is fine
[23:58] <sgclark> ok let me look
[23:58] <ximion> likely, the build env doesn't set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX to /usr, or actually unsets it (since /usr or /usr/local should be the default)